I want to implement Karr algorithm

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Pritam Bhattacharjee

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Mar 9, 2014, 8:54:43 AM3/9/14
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Hi,
I am Pritam.
I want implement the Karr algorithm for the google summer of code 2014 sympy organisation. I want to know what will be the input for Karr algorithm.

someone

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Mar 9, 2014, 7:12:55 PM3/9/14
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What exactly do you mean by "input"? Please search this
mailing list for several discussions about the Karr summation
algorithm.

Christophe Bal

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Mar 10, 2014, 3:04:37 AM3/10/14
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Hello,
is there someone on this list that knows a good book reference about the Karr summation algorithm ?

Christophe BAL


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Comer

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Mar 10, 2014, 10:12:52 AM3/10/14
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Hi Christophe,

I found the attached article. There is a reference to another on the same topic in JACM in 1981 but I did not find that (yet).  I am attaching the 1985 article.  Hope this helps.

Comer
SymbolicCompFiniteDifferenceFormulas_Kellar.pdf

Christophe Bal

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Mar 10, 2014, 10:28:00 AM3/10/14
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Hi Comer.

Thanks a lot for this reference.

Christophe


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Mar 10, 2014, 6:12:49 PM3/10/14
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Hi,


> is there someone on this list that knows a good book reference about
> the Karr summation algorithm ?

There are about 3 references which are more than a research paper:

1.) Symbolic Summation in Difference Fields (Karr + modern extensions) [Carsten Schneider]
2.) Algebraic Extensions for Symbolic Summation (Has good intro/summary chapter) [Burcin Erocal]
3.) Summation in Finite Terms, Presentation and Implementation of M.Karr's Algorithm [J. Grätner]

This is I think all I know about. There is nothing like Bronstein's book for summation.

Christophe Bal

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Mar 10, 2014, 6:27:47 PM3/10/14
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Thanks 2.


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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 10, 2014, 8:55:04 PM3/10/14
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Although understanding at least the basics of the Risch algorithm
should help too, as the Karr algorithm is quite similar, if I remember
correctly.

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Jigar Mistry

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Mar 12, 2014, 8:49:56 AM3/12/14
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Hello,Aaron Meurer
You are right.Can you give me any mentor name for this project?

someone

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Mar 13, 2014, 7:14:21 PM3/13/14
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Hi,

> Although understanding at least the basics of the Risch algorithm
> should help too, as the Karr algorithm is quite similar, if I remember
> correctly.

In some aspects, f.e. the idea of field extensions etc, yes.
However I think I'd not recommend to read Bronstein's book
to get started with Karr.
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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 14, 2014, 8:53:58 PM3/14/14
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Bronstein's book is probably overkill, but probably an intro paper to
the algorithm wouldn't hurt.

Aaron Meurer
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