Survivor's Guide or maybe let's call it Basic Instinct

[Vishnu Chilakamarri]

Hey! Vishnu here
I have just thought of this idea (haven't made it a full fledged one
yet).
I am thinking of giving a case where you are trapped in a jungle,
luckily you have a compass we present the participants with cases like
getting bit by leeches, escaping from quick sand, finding out the
edibility of leaves as the food supply runs out, applying torniquents
on open wounds, finding natural antiseptics etc.
Pls let me know if this idea can be made into an event then i can
think further into it.

thanks

[Ankit Jain]

dear vishnu... a very viable idea indeed.... but the thing is ppl who arent aware of the conditions present here... and arent involved in the study of ecological systems would find it impossible to deduce a presentable answer to the case study...
though we can provide data for the above mentioned idea... but in that case if we keep the campus as the area of the study.... we ought to aware of everything this campus has to offer to us ..... and it means we'd have to ourselves scan each and every part of this campus to get as much details as possible for this event...
though i personally believe  that we can include this as a part of the whole event which we design... like a mixed event involving various disciples of biology... we can sa i wanted keep it as the final rpund format system.. and lessen out load of research and other things..

vishnu... i'd suggest u to keep thinking on the idea and find more possible things we can include in this idea.. like u talked abt natural medication or food supplies... find odr reasons for us to conduct a treasure or survival hunt... so that we can include other parameters involved on campus too!! :)

good job vishnu.. :) :)

[Vibs]

Nice idea...I guess its inspired from MAN vs Wild..!! :-)
I think we can give the participants a map....clearly indicating
different topographical areas within a jungle. Then we can give them
some situation...like being stuck at a particular location. The
participant will have to figure out what all resources are available
to him at that location by making use of the map. Now he will have to
devise his own ways to escape.

And dere are a lot of survival techniques....we can make a hell lot of
questions....!!
CHEERS!!

On Aug 28, 12:35 pm, Ankit Jain <ankit....@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear vishnu... a very viable idea indeed.... but the thing is ppl who arent
> aware of the conditions present here... and arent involved in the study of
> ecological systems would find it impossible to deduce a presentable answer
> to the case study...
> though we can provide data for the above mentioned idea... but in that case
> if we keep the campus as the area of the study.... we ought to aware of
> everything this campus has to offer to us ..... and it means we'd have to
> ourselves scan each and every part of this campus to get as much details as
> possible for this event...
> though i personally believe  that we can include this as a part of the whole
> event which we design... like a mixed event involving various disciples of
> biology... we can sa i wanted keep it as the final rpund format system.. and
> lessen out load of research and other things..
>

> *vishnu*... i'd suggest u to keep thinking on the idea and find more

> possible things we can include in this idea.. like u talked abt natural

> medication or food supplies... find *odr reasons* for us to conduct a

[pradyumn agarwal]

Yeah nice idea vishnu. As ankit said we can make it part of the QUARK event.

[Ankit Jain]

for now.... lets us let vishnu find more things.... more ways of holding the same event... as in as a formal round ... we can do it in clue format where we can use every kind of resource available... for eg.

1st clue to every team can be... find a place where u can run and score.... its answer can be a cricket field... football field or basketball courts... so they have to find the correct area and a new clue will be presented...

2nd can be related to food availability... IC ya Ice n spice ya mongi ya nescafe... ya messes.... so many options.. which is the right one...

3rd can be clue related to place outside some specific lab...

and so on....
 
we can then easily use vibhor's idea of presenting a map to the final round teams and also give odr beginner clues... :) :)
wat say ppl???

[Vishnu Chilakamarri]

can someone please tell me how was the CSI event (not the online one) was held during quark?
did it involve running around campus?

[pradyumn agarwal]

No i didnt involve running around the campus. A crime scene was created in a room for d final round. All other rounds were theoritical. For more details contact Ankit Jain.

[Ankit Jain]

dear vishnu... we did try to create numerous crime scenes within the same corridors n gave the teams a look at it ourselves... it dint involve any running or adventure round but... we did try to give them a visual effect of the environment or as u can say THE CRIME SCENE!! 

[Vishnu Chilakamarri]

i've spent a lot of time thinking, searching on net,working up on various situations about this event and i've realised that the event will be too subjective. in simpler words: there is always a better way to do a particular thing or in my case solve a particular situation and referring to situations like getting bitten by snakes and getting stuck in quicksand etc was looking very stupid the more i pondered on it as the possibilities of tackling those situations were endless(to get a feel of what i want to say you can try a random search on any of the above cases). the event will need a lot of knowledge on the participants' side species of plants and all which i can conveniently assume that they will not have(neither do I).

Therefore i don't think we should keep this as an event in quark. My friend has given me a very good idea. combining the principles of evolution and bio mimetics in a daily quiz like event. Practical application in real life for eg there will be various stages qualifiers will include like what principles or laws of physics does this animal work on. next events will be harder. final round will include we giving details about specific animal and they thinking up the applications that we will have in real world (new ones especially). We will also combine evolution and ask them questions on how have few animals adopted and an imaginary case on how evolution would have happened if our climatic/geographic conditions were changed (we will give the changes)

i think that this will be a LOT feasible than my previous idea as this will encourage out-of-box thinking and we can act QUICK and BETTER in terms of no. of questions and possibilities.because in the earlier idea it was looking more and more vague as i went ahead with a particular situation.

[Ankit Jain]

dear vishnu.... ur present idea is a nice one too.... :)  well justa  quiz event wont be so much of an entertainment box... well we can also include this as a part of the event... but cant completely focus on quizes... 

[Vibs]

A new idea every day....nd not a single refined one....!! :P :P
We get a lot of ideas every day...which might seem stupid at some
point of time...but don't abandon those ideas.

[Ankit Jain]

i second with vibs on that....  i believe the previous idea can be implemented more easily.... well though i dint give a biological way of presenting the round... but once we decide on the rounds and what has to be done... clues can be devised in that context.. :)

[Sudeep Gupta]

oye vibs what about morphology idea , which i told u after the meeting???

[Vibs]

Report abuse jaisa kuch nhi hota kya google group mein??...some1 plz
tell chirayu to delete above comments...plz talk some sense....!!


raghav nyati wrote:
> well i do have an idea ...lets present an event which would be like taking a
> group of 3 people and let the first member search the biophysics book and if
> he gets it within a span of few hours then the second member goes for bio
> physics and finally the third member has to find the gen physiology book and
> present a seminar ...so i guess this will be the most fruitful search
> operations idea...its more practical and easy to implement and more
> *useful*then the jungle hunt idea...so lets brainstorm this 1.....
>
> P.S. - @ankit jain - plz dont use slangs here. this is an official symbiont
> group and stick to your own bussiness ...the group dosent belong to you.
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Ankit Jain <anki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @raghav we r not here to discuss on bio books.... just fuck off right
> > now.... dimaag na kharab kar idhar if u dont have anything to present!!! :/
> > :/
> >

[pradyumn agarwal]

Raghav nd ankit please cut the crap and back on the point.

Dont make this embarassing in front of the group.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ankit Jain <anki...@gmail.com> wrote:

dear raghav nyati... a new thread can be made for the sole purpose of talking about book.... this thread was specifically started by a junior to initiate an idea for THE QUARK EVENT AND INVOLVED BOOKS NOWHERE AS I THINK AND CAN INTERPRET!!!
THE GROUP IS MEANT FOR TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ... BUT A SPECIFIC CHAT ISNT MEANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY ODER QUERY U HAVE...!!! SO PLEASE PRESENT AN IDEA OR DONT WRITE ATALL!!

[Chirayu Garg]

I have deleted the posts of colorful conversation between Ankit and Raghav from google group but unfortunately couldn't delete from your inbox.
This will not happen again.
Thanks to all for their response and please finalize an idea fast to start developing event on it.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ankit Jain <anki...@gmail.com> wrote:

pradyumn.... main wahi akr raha tha... he dint have to get involved atall yaar!! :| : /

--
Chirayu Garg
Coordinator Symbionts
BITS PILANI KK BIRLA GOA CAMPUS

[Sudeep Gupta]

hahaha.. nhi ek kaam karte hain ki event rakhte hain jisme library mein book ki chori karni hai, biophyics ki book, phr cell bio ki aur gen phy ki bhi... :D

[nikhil m]

We all various views on what an event might consist. Some think of a quiz so think of running around the campus ;) but what I feel is we can have an event in which there are various stages or levels where one level can be a quiz if u clear it u proceed to the next level maybe a fusion question on the laws of physics & biology or forensics or anything. This way it would be more fun filled and easy for us also to organize. What say ?

[Sudeep Gupta]

idea toh sahi hai.. but m thinking that 1st round should be quiz, 2nd round should be running around the campus searching for something, and 3rd round should be something different

[nikhil m]

Exactly my point too.

[Vibs]

I doubt wheather "running around d campus" thing wud work..!!
We have an example of amazing race...participants back off from d
middle of d event..!!!..if at all u want to do dat...it should be
simple...shudn't take hours searching fr a clue.... :-)

On Aug 31, 7:04 pm, nikhil m <nikhil.m1071...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly my point too.

[nikhil m]

We can make it interesting..and yeah preferably not time consuming.

[rohit kumar pandey]

i have made it interesting so that even a person doing maths can participate

[nikhil m]

Cool.

[Ankit Jain]

please keep the running around for the last round... will keep the ppl interested even if it doesnt turn the way we want it to... :P
Ankit Jain
M.Sc.(Biological sciences) + B.E.(Chemical Engineering)
Core Member
Department Of Quark Controls
Quark 2012
Phone no.- 09569803204

[Shubham]

wassup!!!

[Ankit Jain]

KAAM... :P in depth analysis for the bio event in quark.. :P

[rohit kumar pandey]

can anyone help me regarding the most common insects found in our campus except the Cyanide Millipede - Harpaphe haydeniana which is found everywhere and also what bio related things can be done with the trees like i have an example we can ask the participants to find 3 or 4 trees,giving them some scientific and some general clues about the location of the tree, then may be estimate the age by using growth factor method or to prepare skeleton of leaves of that trees.or something else somehow related to bio. i think the above things may not take more than 1 hr.

[Ankit Jain]

my dear friend... please dont go so deep into growth factors and other things... it isnt as easy as it seems to do that.... and its not practical too.... ppl will lose interest in doin such a thing.... we had an experiment in Bio Project Lab ... something ecology related.... it dint turn out as i expected in the beginning... we dont want to bore the ppl....  yet

[nikhil m]

I enjoyed the BPL experiment a lot ;)

[Ankit Jain]

u got a good partner dude.... ache karm kiye the tune jo tu uske sath gaya tha!!! :P

[Harshit somani]

Nice one Ankit. Had to say this Nikhil :P

Sorry for commenting uselessly in a good brainstorming thread.

 

Awesome work by the way.


Warm Regards.
--

Harshit Somani
BITS Pilani - Goa Campus

+91 95619 57520

[nikhil m]

 :P :D Somebody feeling jealous eh ?

[nikhil m]

waise back to the discussion...haan I agree with ankit make it bio related but not too scientific and make sure even a common man with basic bio knowledge should know it.

[nikhil m]

The key is not to make a tough answer but to disguise the answer wisely in the clue. What say ?

[Ankit Jain]

completely my point... thanks fr the support nikhil... and YEA i was a BIT JEALOUS>>>(but tera bhi kuch nahi hona waise bhi.. :P)

Well what i suggest is...
1st round a general bio quiz....
2nd round involving those clues from 1st round we devise some case studies in forensics or any odr field.... main focus on presenting  PROBLEM STATEMENTS.... MEANS THEORETICAL TESTING OF THEIR APTITUDE AND  LOGIC...
3RD ROUND AS THE RUNNING ROUND/Adventure round....

 INVOLVING CLUES FROM WITHIN THE CAMPUS... more logical and less biological....

[nikhil m]

Fantastic :)

[Ankit Jain]

well if every1 agrees to this format.... lets decide the theme of the event... for the name...
i proposed a name.... gene-o -tate or  GENE DATE : P.... but it was for a completely gene related event...
it will be very wrong if the event isnt abt genetics then...

either we do such a thing... that we make case studies in the second round involving genetic diseases or disorders which might lead to some suspicious event which might involve brain storming from participant's  point of view....
and for that specif thing... we can give them study material regarding the same.... for the teams we decide to put forward fr the next round...we can either provide xeroxed material or onlyn docs depending on how we think of the event will turn out as with the no, of teams participating!!! :)

then we can also hold a meeting for the EM'S AND DEMS ASAP... and start doing work.....

P.S. a reminder to all (Including me).... once inducted... u have to give it ur all.... or dont come fr the inductions fr the EMs or DEMs !!!
 

[rohit kumar pandey]

i think growth factor method is not that hard if we give some handouts.may be you follow this link you will have a better idea 'http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/leaf/HowOld.html'

[rohit kumar pandey]

may be we can make that quiz round more interesting by adding some tasks to be done within the room.like identifying objects or something else

[aditya khanduri]

Cuul brainstorming evry1!!
To increase the participation.... maybe we cn gv spl hints to teams wch hv a boy n a grl..... n no hints to normal teams..... maybe for the sake of being togethor ppl will be attractd..... wht say??

[Vishnu Chilakamarri]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!
I don't think that will look good though.

[aditya khanduri]

:P

[Ankit Jain]

aditya.... lets focus on making an event than couples here... :P

and identifying objects?? like.............. we can ask for identifying pictures.... as a part of quiz... we can use a room with projector for that... :)

[rohit kumar pandey]

may be for the last round i.e. the racing we can ask them to take one participant from our college so that it will be very helpful for them to find clues round the campus which will make the round less time consuming

[Ankit Jain]

what i thought for the 3rd round was that we'd keep a certain class as  the checkpoint station for every clue that we allot a specific team.... after random allotment of the clus to the teams... all clues being completely independent of the other.... the one who solves all the cases in the least amount of time wins... with this thought in mind... we can give them no restrictions on time and they'd have to come t class and solve for the next clue.... and submit the answers for the previous clues... :)

[Ankit Jain]

no1 would like to share their merit with some1 from the campus... we can do this that... or the campus students... we can raise the challenge... yet making the answers same.... we can play with the words to make it confusing for the campus ppl... :)

[rohit kumar pandey]

so can u elabortely  describe what hill finaly happen.