Hebrew and Greek encodings/fonts

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Stephen Childs

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Jul 21, 2010, 10:09:28 AM7/21/10
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Hi,

I have installed TTF fonts that support Hebrew and Greek and I'm using
the Greek and Hebrew versions from http://www.stjamesturramurra.org.au/stead/Palm.htm

The Greek is basically OK except I get two gamma characters between
each word (perhaps instead of spaces?) Is this an encoding problem or
something in the file?

The Hebrew is best with Ezra SIL font but I still get lots of square
boxes.

Phone is Nokia 5230 Symbian (S60 5th) and I'm using latest version of
s60-5th symbian bible.

Any ideas? Have tried various fonts/encodings.

Stephen

Stephen Childs

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Jul 21, 2010, 10:50:48 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 21, 3:09 pm, Stephen Childs <stephenchild...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Greek is basically OK except I get two gamma characters between
> each word (perhaps instead of spaces?) Is this an encoding problem or
> something in the file?

Have sorted this now - using zGNTPlusa.PDB instead of PlusC which had
the extra characters.

With the Hebrew it looks like it's the vowels that aren't displaying.

Stephen

Jon Tuckwell

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Jul 22, 2010, 3:06:55 AM7/22/10
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I succeeded on my Nokia 5800 (S60 5th) using z_Greek_NT.pdb,
q_hebstrongs.pdb and Cardo98s.ttf font. I have uploaded all these
files to the downloads page. You get unpointed Hebrew but otherwise
it works well. I'd love to know if anyone's managed pointed Hebrew
but I don't think it can be done on s60.

Jon

dietz

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Aug 18, 2010, 3:46:00 AM8/18/10
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Hi,

I have a Nokia 5233, and I haven't been able to get the Hebrew and
Greek fonts to work. Have tried all the above steps and files. Tried
FlipFont, but whilst FlipFont seems to change the font for other
programmes, symbianbible seems to stick with the default option for
the telephone, which doesn't seem to have unicode.

Now I'm waiting to get the cert and key for FontRouter so that I can
install it in the hope that it will do a better job than FlipFont, as
I assume the problem lies not with Symbian Bible but with the
nonexistence of a unicode font. I bought my phone in Pakistan, so
presumably the font settings are different from Europe or the States.

A reason I'm interested in getting a decent unicode font is that I
would like to get the new Urdu translation Urdu Geo Version working on
Symbian Bible. It's already been packaged succesfully for xiphos and
is downloadable at lanz.li, so I assume getting it into a pdb format
won't be such a difficult task for a computer-literate person (That
doesn't include me, unfortunately). I just imagine all the
opportunities in a Muslim country in which everybody has a mobile
nowadays.

Anyone out there who's willing to help?

Thanks,

dietz

dietz

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Aug 18, 2010, 5:23:33 AM8/18/10
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Ok, I tried something more specific. I changed the font to calibri ISO
8859-1 with FlipFont, then went to Symbian Bible. Clicked on the
encoding ISo 8859-1 but to no avail. I have the feeling that the
encoding option of Symbian isn't working on my Nokia 5233. I tried
clicking on windows-1253 with the Greek NT, as someone else has
suggested. Made no difference. Another reason I wonder about the
encoding options in the Symbian Bible is that even when I change the
encoding from CP850, every time I go back and check the menu opens at
CP850.

Dietz

On Aug 18, 12:46 pm, dietz <die...@securenym.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Nokia 5233, and I haven't been able to get theHebrewandGreekfonts to work. Have tried all the above steps and files. Tried
> FlipFont, but whilst FlipFont seems to change the font for other
> programmes, symbianbible seems to stick with the default option for
> the telephone, which doesn't seem to have unicode.
>
> Now I'm waiting to get the cert and key for FontRouter so that I can
> install it in the hope that it will do a better job than FlipFont, as
> I assume the problem lies not with Symbian Bible but with the
> nonexistence of a unicode font. I bought my phone in Pakistan, so
> presumably the font settings are different from Europe or the States.
>
> A reason I'm interested in getting a decent unicode font is that I
> would like to get the new Urdu translation Urdu Geo Version working on
> Symbian Bible. It's already been packaged succesfully for xiphos and
> is downloadable at lanz.li, so I assume getting it into a pdb format
> won't be such a difficult task for a computer-literate person (That
> doesn't include me, unfortunately). I just imagine all the
> opportunities in a Muslim country in which everybody has a mobile
> nowadays.
>
> Anyone out there who's willing to help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> dietz
>
> On Jul 22, 12:06 pm, Jon Tuckwell <tuckwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I succeeded on my Nokia 5800 (S60 5th) using z_Greek_NT.pdb,
> > q_hebstrongs.pdb and Cardo98s.ttf font.  I have uploaded all these
> > files to the downloads page.  You get unpointedHebrewbut otherwise
> > it works well.  I'd love to know if anyone's managed pointedHebrew
> > but I don't think it can be done on s60.
>
> > Jon
>
> > On Jul 21, 3:50 pm, Stephen Childs <stephenchild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 21, 3:09 pm, Stephen Childs <stephenchild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > TheGreekis basically OK except I get two gamma characters between
> > > > each word (perhaps instead of spaces?) Is this an encoding problem or
> > > > something in the file?
>
> > > Have sorted this now - using zGNTPlusa.PDB instead of PlusC which had
> > > the extra characters.
>
> > > With theHebrewit looks like it's the vowels that aren't displaying.
>
> > > Stephen
>
>

Yohanes Nugroho

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Aug 18, 2010, 6:52:40 AM8/18/10
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Hi,

Can you tell me where you get the bible file (or send it to me) so I
can check it is the problem in the bible file?
And have you tried putting new fonts (.ttf) to C:\data\fonts)?

For the greek/hebrew files, the encoding settings is ignored if the
filename starts with z or q.

--
Regards
Yohanes
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dietz

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Aug 19, 2010, 2:34:11 AM8/19/10
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Hi Yohan,

Thanks ever so much! You gave me exactly the info I needed. I guess I
got confused by the instructions on your installation site, which
states as much (however only for S60v3). I made a folder C:\data\fonts
and put the ttf-fonts in it. That did the trick!

Thanks also for telling me about the meaning of z- and q- files, I'm
using the ones on your site. So if I ever need to change the encoding
I can do so.

This has really made my day!

Dieter


On Aug 18, 3:52 pm, Yohanes Nugroho <yoha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you tell me where you get the bible file (or send it to me) so I
> can check it is the problem in the bible file?
> And have you tried putting new fonts (.ttf) to C:\data\fonts)?
>
> For the greek/hebrew files, the encoding settings is ignored if the
> filename starts with z or q.
>
> --
> Regards
> Yohaneshttp://yohan.es/

dietz

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Aug 19, 2010, 4:25:38 AM8/19/10
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Hi,

Your Cardo98s worked like a charm for me.

I second the remark about pointed Hebrew.

Good job!

Dieter

On Jul 22, 12:06 pm, Jon Tuckwell <tuckwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I succeeded on my Nokia 5800 (S60 5th) using z_Greek_NT.pdb,
> q_hebstrongs.pdb and Cardo98s.ttf font.  I have uploaded all these
> files to the downloads page.  You get unpointedHebrewbut otherwise
> it works well.  I'd love to know if anyone's managedpointedHebrew
> but I don't think it can be done on s60.
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 21, 3:50 pm, Stephen Childs <stephenchild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 21, 3:09 pm, Stephen Childs <stephenchild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Greek is basically OK except I get two gamma characters between
> > > each word (perhaps instead of spaces?) Is this an encoding problem or
> > > something in the file?
>
> > Have sorted this now - using zGNTPlusa.PDB instead of PlusC which had
> > the extra characters.
>
> > With theHebrewit looks like it's the vowels that aren't displaying.
>
> > Stephen
>
>
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