Who here is good with music? As in notes and hearing them?

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shykitten55

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Aug 7, 2022, 2:03:55 AM8/7/22
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Sorry, but it has been bugging me for a while and initial results have not been .....

Anyway, what is "bugging" me.

These two songs:
"If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands"
"She'll be coming 'round the mountain when she comes"

Are they the same...... notes?
I don't know the technical terms - not into music - but to me their "music" sounds the same to me.

Or are they nearly the same?

The only thing I can do to music/songs are kill them when I try to play them.
;)

Kit Low

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Aug 7, 2022, 2:46:37 AM8/7/22
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Short answer, no.
But both make a lot of use of the "tonic" note, or the keynote of the scale it is transposed in, i.e. the "Do" from Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do.

In the former, the words: happy, and, you, know, it, and your.
In the latter, the words: coming, round, the, and comes.


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Sophie Parker

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Aug 7, 2022, 2:48:26 AM8/7/22
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Short answer, no.

Long answer, Here's the opening snippet from sheet music of both. You'll see both the rhythm (lengths of notes) and scale positions (which notes  are different.

In the former, based on this sheet music example in D major (2 sharps), the scale positions go 5 5 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 8 9 (assuming we start on the D below middle C, D3).

In the latter, here notated in F major (1 flat), the scale positions go 5 6 8 8 8 8 6 5 3 5 8 (starting on the F below middle C, F3).
As you can see, these are somewhat similar but different.

As for rhythm, this is a little less set in stone, as they can be sung to different rhythms. I've chosen here notations representing what I'd consider the most common versions as sung colloquially. You can see the former is of the pattern dotted-quaver, semiquaver, repeated 4 times (then crotchet at the end, but this is less noticeable).

The latter is sung 'straight', in simple quavers, though sometimes the 'com-ing' is sung as semiquaver, dotted-quaver -- the opposite of the above.



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shykitten55

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Aug 7, 2022, 2:55:16 AM8/7/22
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Thanks...

Good job I never got into music then, huh?

Seems I am really tone deaf....  Oh well.
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