Re: roadmap and timeframe for pb 12.1, 12.5 and 15 ?
Ivaylo Ivanov
I wanted to thank you for sharing this information with us!
Does anybody knows of any roadmap for the Classic line? Any discussions
about it being held at Techwave? Would it be just supported or enhanced or
just abandoned someday?
Are there any planned enhancements of the Classic IDE (colapsible code
blocks, native PDF export, context jumps to function/event implementations,
reflection changes, better .NET support etc...)? Have you heard something
about the future of the webform targets, any chance to have the so-high
rated "Multi-browser support" ISUG enhancement request in a near version?
Thanks in advance for every response!
Regards,
Ivaylo
"Bruce Armstrong" <NOCANSPAM_br...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have a subsequent blog entries where I note what was discussed in the
> roadmap and enhancement sessions.
>
> "Heino Hellmers" <hell...@sf-datentechnik.de> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> any news about timeframe and roadmap? (from techwave)
>>
>> please give us more informations
>>
>> Some first informations we heard from Bruce Armstrong blog, but we
>> need/want more informations.
>> And we need the timeframe?!
>>
>>
>> TIA
>> Heino Hellmers
Bruce Armstrong
> Thanks for the comments, Bruce!
> I really appreciate your input!
>
> It would be great to have our Classic targets empowered with the .NET
> IDE
> Shell for the editing/refactoring process. ;-)
>
> Sadly, it seems like the current webform solution is doomed to stay
> the same
> and until the new Silverlight and/or HTML5 approach is ready and
> cleared, we
> won't have any better in-PB alternative for a long time :-((
Unfortunately, there's only so much you can do with the current HTML
spec and JavaScript. You really can't make it truly browser agnostic
and feature rich at the same time. So you either use a plugin (flash,
silverlight or javafx), or you wait for HTML5 to fully evolve.
The company I work for is currently in the process of rewriting our
HTML/Javascript apps using Flash. At the time we had to make a decision
on how to proceed (2008) Silverlight was still in 1.0, JavaFX hadn't
been released and HTML5 was at draft 1. We had just reached the point
where we realized we would never be able to deliver the full
functionality that a line-of-business app needs and remain browser
agnostic using the tools we had been using to that point (struts, jsf,
spring, etc.)
>
> Best regards,
> Ivaylo
>
> "Bruce Armstrong" <NOCANSPAM_br...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1433891337305212446.731605NOCA...@forums.sybase.com...
>> "Ivaylo Ivanov" <n0_S_p_a_...@isy-dc.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> I wanted to thank you for sharing this information with us!
>>>
>>> Does anybody knows of any roadmap for the Classic line? Any
>>> discussions
>>> about it being held at Techwave? Would it be just supported or
>>> enhanced or
>>> just abandoned someday?
>>
>> They discussed some enhancements for it, like adding support for the
>> tableblob column type which is already in the WPF datawindow,
>>
>>>
>>> Are there any planned enhancements of the Classic IDE (colapsible
> > > code
>>>
>>> blocks, native PDF export, context jumps to function/event
>>> implementations,
>>> reflection changes, better .NET support etc...)?
>>
>> no, not really. The plan that I heard was to move the target types
> > that
>> are currently in classic over into the .net IDE over time.
>>
>>
>>> Have you heard something
>>> about the future of the webform targets, any chance to have the
>>> so-high
>>> rated "Multi-browser support" ISUG enhancement request in a near
>>> version?
>>
>> There weren't any plans announced to try to make the current webforms
>> targets browser agnostic. Instead, the focus is on a Silverlight
> > target
>> and in addition possible support for HTML5, both of which would
> > provide
>> a browser agnostic solution.
Bruce Armstrong
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I wanted to thank you for sharing this information with us!
>
> Does anybody knows of any roadmap for the Classic line? Any
> discussions
> about it being held at Techwave? Would it be just supported or
> enhanced or
> just abandoned someday?
They discussed some enhancements for it, like adding support for the
tableblob column type which is already in the WPF datawindow,
>
> Are there any planned enhancements of the Classic IDE (colapsible code
>
> blocks, native PDF export, context jumps to function/event
> implementations,
> reflection changes, better .NET support etc...)?
no, not really. The plan that I heard was to move the target types that
are currently in classic over into the .net IDE over time.
>Have you heard something
> about the future of the webform targets, any chance to have the
> so-high
> rated "Multi-browser support" ISUG enhancement request in a near
> version?
There weren't any plans announced to try to make the current webforms
targets browser agnostic. Instead, the focus is on a Silverlight target
and in addition possible support for HTML5, both of which would provide
a browser agnostic solution.
>
Ivaylo Ivanov
I really appreciate your input!
It would be great to have our Classic targets empowered with the .NET IDE
Shell for the editing/refactoring process. ;-)
Sadly, it seems like the current webform solution is doomed to stay the same
and until the new Silverlight and/or HTML5 approach is ready and cleared, we
won't have any better in-PB alternative for a long time :-((
Best regards,
Ivaylo
"Bruce Armstrong" <NOCANSPAM_br...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Chris Pollach
useable until 15.1 or 15.2 and the time frame might even be more extended
for a "production ready" version ... way, way, way too late!
Yep, still no PocketBuilder official news either. The silence on that one
IMHO means its a deprecated product (or as IBM says "stable" - aka ... we
ain't work'n on it no more dude <bg>).
"Heino Hellmers" <hell...@sf-datentechnik.de> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> 24-30 month for 15 is to LATE !
> Sybase would be to late. So most people will move.
>
> Also can't find the "way" for pocketbuilder???
> mobile7 target in 15 => in more than two years can be correct!
>
> regards
> Heino
>
> "Adrian Galvan" <agalvan_...@audisys.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:4c65732d$1@forums-1-dub...
>> 12 Months for 12.5 and a good 24-30 months way for next version with
>> silverlight...
>>
>> Is it just me or is this light years away?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrian