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Jun 28, 2026, 3:24:19 AM (5 days ago) Jun 28
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Hi,

A couple of years ago we had a lid blow off one of our boxes. The uPVC had separated from the wooden lining as the screws weren't quite long enough. Since then I've suggested using glue in addition to screws, or countersink. These boxes were made by local volunteers. 

We had a different problem this year. A volunteer who had made 22 nice model 30 boxes in 2025 produced a second batch this year. However, on installation day we found all the wooden nest cups had been screwed to the side wall rather than the bottom of the box! We were totally mystified as to how someone who'd made boxes satisfactorily the year before could get it so wrong the following year, not once but 22 times!!
Luckily as they were screwed and not glued the mistake was easily rectified.

Sue
Penrith Swift Group 



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Mike Priaulx <michael...@yahoo.com>: Jun 27 07:28PM

Hi all,




Catching up on some old posts - we visited this site in Redbridge where
some box roofs blew off, and we now have some insight about what happened.




Eight John Stimpson boxes were installed together and it seems a local
tradesperson was hired to fit them, but he fitted the boxes without the
lid, then realised they were too close together for him to get his
screwdriver in and attach the lid. He then left most of the boxes with the
lids fitted, but not screwed in!




(We've now securely attached the lids using the ingenious invention of a
short screwdriver.)




So just an errant tradesperson in this case (perhaps if you're
accompanying one bring a short screwdriver!),




although the replies to my original post have highlighted that the
secureness of the lids does need to be considered especially in windy
locations.




It is possible to lose a lid which has only one screw each side in stormy
weather.




Boxes made by "Men's Sheds" are a great idea in principle but there have
been a couple in London where the lid blew off quite quickly in spring
weather, so they must have had a design or construction flaw.




So it's probably best to check those quite carefully before installing.




All the best,

Mike




Islington & Hackney Swifts Groups









Hi all,




An unusual subject - someone in NE London has been making and installing
Model 30 type boxes.




However, the lids are not screwed in and are blowing off in the wind.




So in summary:




The lids do blow off if not screwed in!




If anyone knows who this might be making them then let me know, and I'll
tell them about this flaw.




I have seen a Model 30 lid blown off where it had a single screw each
side, as the plywood inner roof must have given way leaving the screws in
place...




so for windy locations a double screw connection (like the current Action
for Swifts Model 30 boxes), or screwing down the roof from above, is maybe
a good idea?




All the best,



Mike
Dick Newell <dick....@gmail.com>: Jun 27 08:44PM +0100

If you cannot get a screw into the side because no space for a screwdriver,
then you can also insert a screw in the front to hold the lid down.
Dick
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2026, 20:28 'Mike Priaulx' via swiftslocalnetwork, <
Cally Smith <huntlysw...@gmail.com>: Jun 27 10:26PM +0100

Thanks Mike
It is always worth checking a prototype before going ahead with a whole
batch! We had the same with one mens shed and had a few pointers for
them! We now ask them to produce one box first!
Cally
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Banstead Swifts <banstea...@gmail.com>: Jun 27 07:07PM +0100

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Laurinda Luffman <Laurinda...@rspb.org.uk>: Jun 27 08:01AM

I would echo Jon. We should feel free to air our experiences and views, since we all do this respectfully.
 
Wishing you well and a speedy recovery at this very difficult time, Annie.
 
Camilla knows something of my recent awful months and meaning to be supportive. Hospitals can be very dispiriting places.
 
Happy Swift Awareness Week everyone!!
 
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From: swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com <swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of bar...@virtuallyhome.co.uk <bar...@virtuallyhome.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2026 8:45:45 pm
To: swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com <swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SLN] Regent House - 22 swift nests destroyed
 
Dear Annie,
 
It is a safe space and it is important to discuss these things. Your Dorking incident has highlighted the many issues we face when trying to protect swift nesting sites. It is by discussing the problems people encounter that we can work together to improve nest protection.
 
Jon
 
 
From: swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com <swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Banstead Swifts
Sent: 26 June 2026 20:04
To: swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [SLN] Regent House - 22 swift nests destroyed
 
Fine.
 
It was clear the RSPB were unwilling and unable to help with this tragic situation, we had already realised that, as had our RSPB supporters.
 
We understand that you are overstretched, but so are we. I have had 2 months of Royal Marsden cancer scans and tests to juggle alongside 2 incidents and hardly a moment to process any of it..
 
This now feels that it is not a safe space for me to discuss the Dorking Swifts, or anything on legals, so I will end it now.
 
Happy swift awareness week Laurinda, Jon, Camilla.
 
Best regards
Annie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On Fri, 26 Jun 2026, 18:57 Jon and Camilla Barlow, <bar...@virtuallyhome.co.uk<mailto:barlow@virtuallyhome.co.uk>> wrote:
A couple of great emails Laurinda.
You are so good!
 
Stay strong
Jon and Camilla
X
 
From: 'Laurinda Luffman' via swiftslocalnetwork <swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swiftslocalnetwork@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: 26 June 2026 18:22
To: swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swiftslocalnetwork@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SLN] Regent House - 22 swift nests destroyed
 
Dear Annie
 
I’m so sorry you still feel unhappy.
 
In certain cases the RSPB will definitely step in to help, where we feel we can make a difference. For example, in addition to SLN people lobbying Network Rail recently, we were in touch with our contacts at Network Rail behind the scenes to help resolve the blocked nest sites at the viaduct.
 
However, there are obviously too many local issues for us to get involved in every case. As I said in my personal email to you shortly after the building had tragically come down before the scheduled month of November, sadly the burden of proof needed for the police to take it further is high. Nevertheless, we very much appreciate people on the ground like you trying their local wildlife crime officers anyway, to check nothing can be done and ‘kick the tyres’ of the process, which you clearly have done.
 
If I’d personally felt we could have gained some traction with this case, though I was deep in my own family issues at the time, I probably would have raised it myself with our Investigations Team and I know our Wildlife team would also have done the same (hence me asking with whom you spoke). So I would like to reiterate once more, that we DO get involved when/where we can and therefore there is no ‘gaslighting’ involved.
 
Our staff are, naturally, very stretched at this time of year, another reason why they cannot spread too thinly over cases and take on too many battles (no matter how individually important each one is for nature). Otherwise, we run the risk of having no impact and not getting any wins at all.
 
Please do come back to me if you feel there is anything further I can do personally to help in this case as the RSPB Swift Species lead.
 
Kind regards
Laurinda
 
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Sent: 25 June 2026 12:30
To: swiftslocalnetwork <swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com<mailto:swiftslocalnetwork@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [SLN] Regent House - 22 swift nests destroyed
 
Dear Laurinda
 
I am not happy.
 
I did not speak to anyone at RSPB, as I had checked online and it was evidently clear, that no help was available. I do my research. No help offered has been echoed in many of our supporters who are members of the RSPB who didn't believe that there was no help, so they contacted the RSPB and received this cut and paste message, beneath. If you can confirm that help is available, then I will call, but clearly it is not, but I have wasted hours to repeatedly call some, so what's another 40 minutes of disappointment in my day of hitting constant brick walls. I will add I did call the RSPB for nest 1 and there was no help for that either. Because it simply isn't on the table
 
So no, I did not call, because I have wasted so much time calling NGOs that even the Police told me to call , who have wiped their hands of offering any kind of help to swifts as victims of wildlife crimes, unless you find a dead bird as a result. They know it, we all know it now. It is just pass the buck and get the person off the phone, off the email, protect the brand and hope they shut up and go away.
 
I am getting a little sick of being given the run-around and being gaslit. Surrey Wildlife Trust told a full meeting, after I had left, that I 'must have misunderstood' the sub par ecological report they had produced on the Regent House Site. Only it was an excellent analysis by Mike. So no, I had not misunderstood that either.
 
I don't want to upset you Laurinda, but I am just tired of the suggestion there is something available, when everyone has made so much effort to help to find out if there is, and there is clearly is not. It is exhausting and time wasting.
 
Can others please comment on the Wildlife Officers Speech at the conference?
 
Banstead Swifts<https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064563437171&__tn__=R*F> This is the response I had from the RSPB:
Good morning Julie,
Thank you for contacting the RSPB. I apologise for the long delay in response, our small team are receiving a high volume of enquiries, and we are working hard to respond as quickly as possible.
The RSPB has limited resources and I’m afraid we cannot get involved in every issue that we are contacted about. However, Swifts are important to us so it’s good to see other individuals and groups in the area doing their best to campaign on this and work towards an outcome that hopefully will help Swifts in the future.
Unfortunately, as a conservation organisation the RSPB is unable to enforce the law, and it is the duty of the police to investigate wildlife crimes.
Thanks for getting in touch and standing up for nature.
Kind Regards,
Beth Dean (she/her)
Supporter Adviser - Wildlife Enquiries
Wildlife Advice & Enquiries: 01767 693690 Mon, 09:30-16:30; Tue-Fri, 9:30-13:00)
Supporter Services: 01767 693680 (Mon-Fri, 09:00-17:00)
 
On Tuesday, 23 June 2026 at 16:20:14 UTC+1 Laurinda Luffman wrote:
Dear All
 
I have just checked with the RSPB Investigations Team and they have no record of anyone contacting them about this incident.
 
So I’m not sure who Annie spoke to – was it someone in the Wildlife Team? Please always do feel free to use me as a contact point, though admittedly I have not been very proactive recently due to my mother being very poorly in hospital for a couple of months.
 
As we all know, it is extremely hard to get enough evidence for this kind of crime, such that the police can take it further. It was certainly a really useful talk we had from the Wildlife Crime Unit at the Lancaster conference which outlined what might be needed for a successful prosecution, as well as highlighting all the other atrocious wildlife crimes out there (like monkey torturing – still can’t get that out of my head) they have to deal with.
 
As you can all imagine, the RSPB Investigations team also has a lot of awful crimes to deal with and therefore have to prioritise focusing on cases which have video/other strong evidence to give us a chance of us winning in court or cases involving Schedule 1 birds or raptors, since raptors face a really awful level of sustained and persistent persecution currently. I can assure everyone that my colleagues are very committed and care about all birds, including Swifts, even if they are unable to help in specific cases such as this.
 
It is of course, deeply frustrating, that the burden of proof is so high and so difficult to obtain for Swifts and I greatly admire any local group willing to pursue a case like this, and get greater understanding and awareness, if nothing else.
 
We all bear the scars of cases in our own locations, so it’s fantastic that we can all support each other emotionally and with any tactics we have tried.
 
Laurinda
 
 
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Sent: 23 June 2026 10:58
To: swiftslocalnetwork <http://swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com<http://swiftsloc...@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [SLN] Regent House - 22 swift nests destroyed
 
Dear Tony & Anne
 
DO SHARE THIS, EVERY TIME please. It is extremely important we all know and understand what goes on in these tragic circumstances, otherwise what are we all fighting for? OK i am firey and like to shout out about this. The law is useless and makes people believe the swifts are protected when they are NOT!!! I have had similar issues, some with WCOs who argue with you when they should be working with you. The amount of people who say 'contact the RSPB' - again not directed at you Laurinda (you represent and get all the flack! X) but so many people DO rely on the RSPB when they do not get involved with these things. Far too much reliance on ecologist reports - and again i believe many times over that many ecologists are NOT swift experts and one or two visits are simply not enough. So many failures, it has to stop. I'm behind you all the way, justice MUST be done. This is a red listed bird for goodness sake, does this mean nothing?
Cally
 
On Sunday, June 21, 2026 at 9:27:25 AM UTC+1 the.crofties~Hathern wrote:
Dear Anne & Barrie
 
Completely agree with everything you say in this email.
 
What's the point of this legislation if no one upholds it...
 
It's compliance for the protection of all house nesting birds that matters and it's clear no one is going to enforce it or penalise companies that flaunt the regulations...
 
It's simply outrageous that these companies can flaunt the rules as the councils, police, etc don't enforce them or subject the builders and planners to prosecution for not following them or enforceing them! They just don't take any of it seriously!
 
The whole thing is a shambles and smells of something wrotten!
 
Best Regards
Tony & Anne
 
On Sun, 21 Jun 2026, 09:04 Banstead Swifts, <http://banstea...@gmail.com<http://banstea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Morning
 
We questioned whether to share this here as there was little response (we acknowledge and are grateful to those that did) to our post regarding legals and changing things nationally to save swifts.
 
The Police, developers, contractors and council are witholding the building survey that was carried out 48 hours prior to demolition but they have relied upon for evidence to supercede that of eye witnesses. We have now submitted an FOI to the Police and council for this.
 
The publics submissions on the planning application should have been online within 5 days of submission, but 7 months on they are not online and the council is not replying to advise if we maynview them in the office, so we have submitted a complaint on that too.
 
No support on the case came from RSPB. SWT. No NGO at all.
 
It is disgraceful that 22 nests can be lost in one fell swoop and it is left to a handful of unpaid volunteers to hold multiple businesses and local government to account. It may have helped morale and the public if the NGOs had released a written statement on the incident offering their view and support for justice for the swifts. But nothing for the swifts at all.
 
The general public consistently ask what the RSPB amd RSPCA are doing to help and we have to say 'nothing'. They didn"t believe it till they started emailing themselves. BTW this is not an attack on you Laurinda, it is of the policies of the RSPB to not get involved.
 
Despite this we are still continuing our work on justice for the swifts of Dorking. We will continue to dig for information and a route to legal advice and a private prosecution.
 
We have already submitted a complaint to Surrey Police regarding Nest 1. Pound Road,Banstead<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1.+Pound+Road,Banstead?entry=gmail&source=g> Colony but we shall be submitting another on their whole month of sitting doing nothing whilst the general public flagged up swifts in the building and a wildlife crime occuring.
 
Thanks to Mike Priaulx for his continued support and lead, with his expert knowledge, he is one in a million.
 
Best
Annie & Barry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
URGENT NEWS - Surrey Police
 
It is what we expected.
 
14:17 update: We do not intend to drop this. We will continue to pursue justice for the swifts and nature. This is not the end, it is the beginning of the next chapter.
 
=======
 
Response from Surrey Police on Regent House Demolition and Destruction of up to 22 swift nests:
 
 
Good afternoon,
 
In regards to Regent House I am now in a position to give a fuller update in regards to your police report.
 
As part of the investigation, I have spoken with 10 complainants to determine whether or not we have sufficient evidence to proceed with any form of criminal proceedings. Accounts from all 10 persons have been obtained, either over the phone or via email. Contact has been made with both the council and the demolition company to obtain their record of documents as well as two ecologist reports that were obtained, one of which post partial demolition to ascertain if there was any evidence of active nesting, or if there was any evidence that there had been prior to demolition beginning. There appears to have been a CCTV camera that would have captured the site at one point; however, Network Rail have confirmed that this camera was owned by a different company, which has since dissolved and is not part of the train network.
 
Having obtained a timeline of events as produced by yourselves, with the videos and accounts by the complainants, as well as the ecologists reports. This matter was submitted to the National Rural Crime Team for their review and advice. They have confirmed that with the evidence submitted, it would have been "likely" that the swifts would have returned to nest if left undisturbed. The unit note that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence and presumptions, however this is not supported by factual evidence. This, coupled with the ecologists report (the second one not the tree one), along with the fact that scaffolding and monoflex sheeting had been erected prior to nesting season, would completely undermine a prosecution.
 
Further to this, we have the requirement to prove intent, from the documentation that we have been provided, the company appear to have complied with all legislation to protect nests. There is no offence of
Tony Croft <the.cro...@gmail.com>: Jun 27 12:29PM +0100

Keep up the good work Laurinda....
 
Thank you for all you.
 
Best Regards
Tony
 
On Fri, 26 Jun 2026, 18:37 'Laurinda Luffman' via swiftslocalnetwork, <
Banstead Swifts <banstea...@gmail.com>: Jun 27 06:34AM -0700

Thank you, Laurinda, for taking the time to reply.
 
However, your response illustrates exactly why many autistic people do not
feel safe enough to unmask, even in communities that they believe are
inclusive.
 
My concern was never about you personally, as I had clearly stated. It was
about corporate policy and whether appropriate procedures had been followed
and whether it was clear to me and the public what RSPB offer in support to
swift wildlife crime. Yet the discussion gradually became about me, my
actions and my communication.
 
For example, your earlier statement that there was "no record of anyone
contacting" the Investigations Team gave the impression that I had failed
to pursue the matter. The obvious question was never asked: *what contact
had I actually had with the RSPB?* Instead, assumptions were made that
undermined my credibility before clarification was sought.
 
Similarly, I was not asking anyone else to reject the police position. I
was questioning whether the correct procedures had been followed before
reaching that position. Those are not the same thing. I have seen the
evidence of Regent House, I do not believe you have. I do reject the police
position based on the evidence I have seen and my experience, because they
did fail to follow procedural standards, not once, but twice on two cases.
 
This is a pattern many autistic people recognise. We communicate directly
and factually, yet our communication is often interpreted as confrontation
or personal criticism. The discussion shifts away from the issue itself and
towards our communication style.
 
That is what happened here.
 
Throughout the past two months I have dealt with the destruction of swift
nests, intimidation connected to campaigning on a wildlife crime, anonymous
malicious letters, and the distress of witnessing swifts trying to reach a
nest site that no longer existed or was obstructed. I deliberately chose
not to bring my own personal circumstances or health into this group
because I wanted the discussion to remain about wildlife, evidence and
policy.
 
Instead, the focus became me.
 
This is why autistic people often continue to mask. It is not because we
cannot communicate clearly. It is because experience teaches us that when
we communicate naturally and directly, our motives are questioned, our
communication is personalised, and our concerns become secondary to how we
expressed them.
 
That is the double empathy problem in practice. It is not simply that
autistic people misunderstand non-autistic communication; it is equally
that non-autistic people often misunderstand autistic communication,
assigning intent that was never there.
 
I hope people reading this can understand that my criticism was not
directed at an individual, I had made that very clear on previous posts. It
has always been about improving systems, accountability and outcomes for
swifts.
 
Unfortunately, this exchange has also become an example of why autistic
people so often feel they cannot safely be themselves when difficult
conversations arise.
 
It is all so disappointing that this has gone this way when your RSPB boss
Emma Marsh is herself a late diagnosed autistic and has shared her own
struggles with exactly the same issues:
 
https://hidden20.org/podcast/emma-marsh
 
''They also explore why so many workplaces still unintentionally exclude
neurodivergent people - and what it looks like to move beyond awareness
into systems that actually support people and their brains'.
 
Because this is my 'workplace' , or perhaps it is not whilst it remains an
unsafe place for autistic individuals like me to unmask and work to help
swifts. Emma would have experienced exactly what this discussion became all
her life and all autistics would recognise it.
 
I don't wish to receive any more correspondence on this.
 
Regards
 
Annie
 
 
 
 
 
On Saturday, 27 June 2026 at 09:01:25 UTC+1 Laurinda Luffman wrote:
 
Mike Priaulx <michael...@yahoo.com>: Jun 27 10:38AM

Hi Lauren,




Our Common Swift is a pioneering species given time, as you can see from
its distribution map:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_swift




When we want them to find a box within a few years they can seem slow but
over the centuries they've moved from nesting in old tree holes to varying
types of buildings including some modern concrete ones, all without calls
played, so they can definitely adapt.




It's very unusual to have nests in buildings aged 14-16 years old, so
unless there were boxes it must be a design "flaw" they've benefited from.




All the best,

Mike




Islington & Hackney Swifts Groups




+++




SavetheSwiftsLittleover <savetheswif...@gmail.com>: Jun 26
10:08AM +0100




Hi everyone,



Another question I have if anyone can share their knowledge with me
please?



I wonder if anyone could explain how a new colony forms when there was no
 

nesting site on this street 14 years ago. The reason I ask this is that

there is colony of swifts with 6 active nests on a row of newer houses,

built around 14 -16 years ago. 4 at the front 2 at the back of the
houses.

Previous to this, it was care home type supported accommodation.



I have only really noticed these Swifts in the last few years because
they

are very close to where I live, and yes I probably could of started
taking

action sooner but I have started now.



How do they manage to find a new place with no help or caller? It might
be

really obvious to someone but I don't know, I'm still learning and
figuring

things out and it would massively help if I was to think about trying to

make a new street for swifts to form a new colony in a different part of

Littleover.



My understanding is that it is generally easier to help expand the
colonies

in the locations where there are known nests.







Lauren



*Save the Swifts Littleover *

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Annie Warwick <anniew...@me.com>: Jun 27 11:11AM +0100

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19743V5wwD/?mibextid=wwXIfr
 
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Swifts (SOS) <swi...@suffolkbirdgroup.org>: Jun 27 10:04AM +0100

Good morning all
 
Appreciate in the west of the UK you’ve had the heat longer than us.
 
Any reports from camera nest boxes of nesting problems please?
 
None from Suffolk yet
 
Cheers Ed
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helensshelfordhistory <helensshel...@gmail.com>: Jun 27 02:03AM -0700

Dear All,
I have been (as have we all) following the whole sorry saga of the Dorking
Swifts. I admire Annie and Barrie’s guts and drive in pursuing this. I
haven’t got the same guts, but I find myself wondering what small things
can be done to shift this woeful status quo. I was thinking that a training
course for ecologists doing surveys might be a start in addressing
ignorance about how to survey for swifts and martins as part of their
ecological survey (and not just bats and newts), and so I thought I might
contact Kieron at Biological Recording Company with the suggestion that he
offers one of his training webinars for ecologists on the subject. The
company is well-respected and has good take-up.
It’s always good to offer a solution along with a suggestion, so I wonder
- is there anyone in this group who feels qualfied to do such a webinar
and is willing to do it? Might even get paid - you never know.
My other thought - and this is just pie in the sky really - is that we
really, as a swift community, need to educate the building trade, but this
clearly is a huge, huge undertaking with very uncertain rewards. There’s a
Considerate Constructor Scheme which these days is plastered on every
hoarding. It claims, “We fight for best practice in worker wellbeing,
community relations and environmental impact”. I wouldn’t like to say how
far it’s provisions are honoured in practice. But maybe it’s worth
contacting them.
One thing Annie said was that this no longer felt like a safe space. I
wonder if you are all aware that discussion on the group appears in a
Google search? It is not a private group.
Best regards,
Helen,
CamSwift
Laurinda Luffman <Laurinda...@rspb.org.uk>: Jun 27 07:53AM

It's not often the R4 Today programme makes me happy these days, but this morning Brian Draper did a beautiful 'thought for the day' c7.50am on Swifts 😁
 
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