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वीरेश्वराय विद्महे
विवेकानन्दाय धीमहि । तन्नो
वीर: प्रचोदयात् ।
SANNYASIN TO THE WEST AND HIS PLAN OF REGENERATION OF INDIA
For the past few weeks, the Hindu public of Madras have been most
eagerly expecting the arrival of Swami Vivekananda, the great
Hindu monk of world-wide fame. At the present moment his name is
on everybody's lips. In the school, in the college, in the High
Court, on the marina, and in the streets and bazars of Madras,
hundreds of inquisitive spirits may be seen asking when the Swami
will be coming. Large numbers of students from the mofussil, who
have come up for the University examinations are staying here,
awaiting the Swami, and increasing their hostelry bills, despite
the urgent call of their parents to return home immediately. In a
few days the Swami will be in our midst. From the nature of the
receptions received elsewhere in this Presidency, from the
preparations being made here, from the triumphal arches erected at
Castle Kernan, where the "Prophet" is to be lodged at the cost of
the Hindu public, and from the interest taken in the movement by
the leading Hindu gentlemen of this city, like the Hon'ble Mr.
Justice Subramaniya Iyer, there is no doubt that the Swami will
have a grand reception. It was Madras that first recognised the
superior merits of the Swami and equipped him for Chicago. Madras
will now have again the honour of welcoming the undoubtedly great
man who has done so much to raise the prestige of his motherland.
Four year ago, when the Swami arrived here, he was practically an
obscure individual. In an unknown bungalow at St. Thome he spent
nearly two months, all along holding conversations on religious
topics and teaching and instructing all comers who cared to listen
to him. Even then a few educated young men with "a keener eye"
predicted that there was something in the man, "a power", that
would lift him above all others, that would pre-eminently enable
him to be the leader of men. These young men, who were then
despised as "misguided enthusiasts", "dreamy revivalists", have
now the supreme satisfaction of seeing their Swami, as they love
to call him, return to them with a great European and American
fame. The mission of the Swami is essentially spiritual. He firmly
believes that India, the motherland of spirituality, has a great
future before her. He is sanguine that the West will more and more
come to appreciate what he regards as the sublime truths of
Vedanta. His great motto is "Help, and not Fight" "Assimilation,
and not Destruction", "Harmony and Peace, and not Dissension".
Whatever difference of opinion followers of other creeds may have
with him, few will venture to deny that the Swami has done
yeoman's service to his country in opening the eyes of the Western
world to "the good in the Hindu". He will always be remembered as
the first Hindu Sannyâsin who dared to cross the sea to carry to
the West the message of what he believes in as a religious peace.
A representative of our paper interviewed the Swami Vivekananda,
with a view to eliciting from him an account of the success of his
mission in the West. The Swami very courteously received our
representative and motioned him to a chair by his side. The Swami
was dressed in yellow robes, was calm, serene, and dignified, and
appeared inclined to answer any questions that might be put to
him. We have given the Swami's words as taken down in shorthand by
our representative.
"May I know a few particulars about your early life?" asked our
representative.
The Swami said: "Even while I was a student at Calcutta, I was of
a religious temperament. I was critical even at that time of my
life, mere words would not satisfy me. Subsequently I met
Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, with whom I lived for a long time and
under whom I studied. After the death of my father I gave myself
up to travelling in India and started a little monastery in
Calcutta. During my travels, I came to Madras, where I received
help from the Maharaja of Mysore and the Raja of Ramnad."
"What made Your Holiness carry the mission of Hinduism to Western
countries?"
"I wanted to get experience. My idea as to the keynote of our
national downfall is that we do not mix with other nations — that
is the one and the sole cause. We never had opportunity to compare
notes. We were Kupa-Mandukas (frogs in a well)."
"You have done a good deal of travelling in the West?"
"I have visited a good deal of Europe, including Germany and
France, but England and America were the chief centres of my work.
At first I found myself in a critical position, owing to the
hostile attitude assumed against the people of this country by
those who went there from India. I believe the Indian nation is by
far the most moral and religious nation in the whole world, and it
would be a blasphemy to compare the Hindus with any other nation.
At first, many fell foul of me, manufactured huge lies against me
by saying that I was a fraud, that I had a harem of wives and half
a regiment of children. But my experience of these missionaries
opened my eyes as to what they are capable of doing in the name of
religion. Missionaries were nowhere in England. None came to fight
me. Mr. Lund went over to America to abuse me behind my back, but
people would not listen to him. I was very popular with them. When
I came back to England, I thought this missionary would be at me,
but the Truth silenced him. In England the social status is
stricter than caste is in India. The English Church people are all
gentlemen born, which many of the missionaries are not. They
greatly sympathised with me. I think that about thirty English
Church clergymen agree entirely with me on all points of religious
discussion. I was agreeably surprised to find that the English
clergymen, though they differed from me, did not abuse me behind
my back and stab me in the dark. There is the benefit of caste and
hereditary culture."
"What has been the measure of your success in the West?"
"A great number of people sympathised with me in America — much
more than in England. Vituperation by the low-caste missionaries
made my cause succeed better. I had no money, the people of India
having given me my bare passage-money, which was spent in a very
short time. I had to live just as here on the charity of
individuals. The Americans are a very hospitable people. In
America one-third of the people are Christians, but the rest have
no religion, that is they do not belong to any of the sects, but
amongst them are to be found the most spiritual persons. I think
the work in England is sound. If I die
tomorrow
and cannot send any more Sannyasins, still the English work will
go on. The Englishman is a very good man. He is taught from his
childhood to suppress all his feelings. He is thickheaded, and is
not so quick as the Frenchman or the American. He is immensely
practical. The American people are too young to understand
renunciation. England has enjoyed wealth and luxury for ages. Many
people there are ready for renunciation. When I first lectured in
England I had a little class of twenty or thirty, which was kept
going when I left, and when I went back from America I could get
an audience of one thousand. In America I could get a much bigger
one, as I spent three years in America and only one year in
England. I have two Sannyasins — one in England and one in
America, and I intend sending Sannyasins to other countries.
"English people are tremendous workers. Give them an idea, and you
may be sure that that idea is not going to be lost, provided they
catch it. People here have given up the Vedas, and all your
philosophy is in the kitchen. The religion of India at present is
'Don't-touchism' — that is a religion which the English people
will never accept. The thoughts of our forefathers and the
wonderful life-giving principles that they discovered, every
nation will take. The biggest guns of the English Church told me
that I was putting Vedantism into the Bible. The present Hinduism
is a degradation. There is no book on philosophy, written today,
in which something of our Vedantism is not touched upon — even the
works of Herbert Spencer contain it. The philosophy of the age is
Advaitism, everybody talks of it; only in Europe, they try to be
original. They talk of Hindus with contempt, but at the same time
swallow the truths given out by the Hindus. Professor Max Müller
is a perfect Vedantist, and has done splendid work in Vedantism.
He believes in re-incarnation."
"What do you intend doing for the regeneration of India?"
"I consider that the great national sin is the neglect of the
masses, and that is one of the causes of our downfall. No amount
of politics would be of any avail until the masses in India are
once more well educated, well fed, and well cared for. They pay
for our education, they build our temples, but in return they get
kicks. They are practically our slaves. If we want to regenerate
India, we must work for them. I want to start two central
institutions at first — one at Madras and the other at Calcutta —
for training young men as preachers. I have funds for starting the
Calcutta one. English people will find funds for my purpose.
"My faith is in the younger generation, the modern generation, out
of them will come my workers. They will work out the whole
problem, like lions. I have formulated the idea and have given my
life to it. If I do not achieve success, some better one will come
after me to work it out, and I shall be content to struggle. The
one problem you have is to give to the masses their rights. You
have the greatest religion which the world ever saw, and you feed
the masses with stuff and nonsense. You have the perennial
fountain flowing, and you give them ditch-water. Your Madras
graduate would not touch a low-caste man, but is ready to get out
of him the money for his education. I want to start at first these
two institutions for educating missionaries to be both spiritual
and secular instructors to our masses. They will spread from
centre to centre, until we have covered the whole of India. The
great thing is to have faith in oneself, even before faith in God;
but the difficulty seems to be that we are losing faith in
ourselves day by day. That is my objection against the reformers.
The orthodox have more faith and more strength in themselves, in
spite of their crudeness; but the reformers simply play into the
hands of Europeans and pander to their vanity. Our masses are gods
as compared with those of other countries. This is the only
country where poverty is not a crime. They are mentally and
physically handsome; but we hated and hated them till they have
lost faith in themselves. They think they are born slaves. Give
them their rights, and let them stand on their rights. This is the
glory of the American civilization. Compare the Irishman with
knees bent, half-starved, with a little stick and bundle of
clothes, just arrived from the ship, with what he is, after a few
months' stay in America. He walks boldly and bravely. He has come
from a country where he was a slave to a country where he is a
brother.
"Believe that the soul is immortal, infinite and all-powerful. My
idea of education is personal contact with the teacher -
Gurugriha-Vâsa. Without the personal life of a teacher there would
be no education. Take your Universities. What have they done
during the fifty years of their existences. They have not produced
one original man. They are merely an examining body. The idea of
the sacrifice for the common weal is not yet developed in our
nation."
"What do you think of Mrs. Besant and Theosophy?"
"Mrs. Besant is a very good woman. I lectured at her Lodge in
London. I do not know personally much about her. Her knowledge of
our religion is very limited; she picks up scraps here and there;
she never had time to study it thoroughly. That she is one of the
most sincere of women, her greatest enemy will concede. She is
considered the best speaker in England. She is a Sannyâsini. But I
do not believe in Mahâtmâs and Kuthumis. Let her give up her
connection with the Theosophical Society, stand on her own
footing, and preach what she thinks right."
Speaking of social reforms, the Swami expressed himself about
widow-marriage thus: "I have yet to see a nation whose fate is
determined by the number of husbands their widows get."
Knowing as he did that several persons were waiting downstairs to
have an interview with the Swami, our representative withdrew,
thanking the Swami for the kindness with which he had consented to
the journalistic torture.
The Swami, it may be remarked, is accompanied by Mr. and Mrs. J.
H. Sevier, Mr. T. G. Harrison, a Buddhist gentleman of Colombo,
and Mr. J. J. Goodwin. It appears that Mr. and Mrs. Sevier
accompany the Swami with a view to settling in the Himalayas,
where they intend building a residence for the Western disciples
of the Swami, who may have an inclination to reside in India. For
twenty years, Mr. and Mrs. Sevier had followed no particular
religion, finding satisfaction in none of those that were
preached; but on listening to a course of lectures by the Swami,
they professed to have found a religion that satisfied their heart
and intellect. Since then they have accompanied the Swami through
Switzerland, Germany, and Italy, and now to India. Mr. Goodwin, a
journalist in England, became a disciple of the Swami fourteen
months ago, when he first met him at New York. He gave up his
journalism and devotes himself to attending the Swami and taking
down his lectures in shorthand. He is in every sense a true
"disciple", saying that he hopes to be with the Swami till his
death.
(Madras Times, February, 1897)
Todays-Special 4-June
in Swami Vivekananda Life
5 June 1896 : To Mrs. Bull
The Raja-Yoga book is going on
splendidly. Saradananda goes to the States soon.
I do not like any one whom I love
to become a lawyer, although my father was one.
My Master was against it, and I believe that
that family is sure to come to grief where there
are several lawyers. Our country is full of
them; the universities turn them out by the
hundreds. What my nation wants is pluck and
scientific genius. So I want Mohin to be an
electrician. Even if he fails in life, still I
will have the satisfaction that he strove to
become great and really useful to his country. .
. . In America alone there is something in the
air which brings out whatever is best in every
one. . . . I want him to be daring, bold, and to
struggle to cut a new path for himself and his
nation. An electrical engineer can make a living
in India.
5 June 1898 : Swami
Vivekananda returns to Almora after a week long
tour with Seviers
He got the message of nirvana of
Sri Pavahari Baba
Be
A Master