Korg Vs Yamaha Piano

[Oliverio Gallman]

Iunderstand very little about circuit boards, but I was able to identify the problem immediately. C, E and G# receive and give inputs along the same path. There is an issue with the soldering on one of the *things* at the first E key, where the problem starts. See the images for this issue.

It appears that there is an insulated jumper wire that connects between the diode that is connected to the key and the note multiple track where it comes from and goes to the next note. I assume that is all that it is as it has to span across other tracks without electrically touching them to connect the diode which is connected to the key and the track multiple connection to the other notes that share the same wiring path

Looking at the other keys you can see the copper pad where the jumper is soldered to ( I assume that it is soldered) and also where the multiple track comes into the pad and then goes onto the next note in the particular wiring multiple, whereas on this particular connection it is not visible at all.

That green arrow in the middle of the image is exactly the spot I was referring to - that's sitting right above the first key that doesn't work, and yes, certain keys to the right of that one don't work.

Thanks so much for giving me the terminology to describe this problem. I can take this info to a hardware/electronics store and get the tools I need to fix this. Your advice does make sense, and I'm super thankful!!!

@jayeff You saved my ass! I had students all day yesterday, I went to teach in the morning. No sound on C,E and G#. Managed to take it apart and repair in between students! I didn't have my proper gear so it's a botch job but got me through and we are back baby. Thanks man!!

Here's an image taken from the image in the answer above this one, that shows what may be a connection point between two adjacent boards. The image does not show the connection on the top but I'm thinking that perhaps it is underneath the boards. I have highlighted the point of interest.

Tengo tambien problemas con un korg B1 no suena el Eb - G - y B algo conosco este teclado despues de los diodos de cada tecla se unen dea tres notas y envian la seal(pulsos) a los buffer triestados sn74lv125 y de ahi al cpu y tambien hay resistencias como en el teclado yamaha psr303_sm.

Which of these two keyboards (or sound modules)would you buy, and why? Please be as detailed as possible. I'm hearing from many that the Motif would demolish the Triton, but no one ever gives me the reason why.

I would just buy the Motif just because of the hype, but my producer's already saving up for the sound module. We both make beats, so I was leaning towards the Triton for a different sound than my producer's. I figured, why should a "group" buy two of the same items? So in this predicament, what keyboard would you go with?

Like right after I posted this topic, I looked at a topic lower than mine, someone was speaking of the yamaha motif, so I clicked on it. And another guy said the same thing, the motif kills the triton. I'm sorta convinced about the motif, but I'm still looking for replies. If I would buy the motif, which one would most likely serve my needs, the Motif6 or the ES6? I'm trying to find the difference.

A keyboardplayer that I am working with owns both a Triton and a Karma and I just think that these machines sound somewhat thin and "plastic-like". It's like an extreme "smiley curve" EQ engaged all the time, boosting high and low end only (and my friend hasn't done any EQ'ing).

We have repeatedly tried and record stuff with those units but I usually end up replacing the tracks with Roland JV, GigaStudio or VST synth sounds.

Hey,

I too have been lusting for a Motif rack. I chose the rack for the cost difference and some of the features that differ from the the full keyboard versions. We have discussed these differences in the past here at R.O. but in a nutshell, I also want the rack version because it comes with a lot more preset sounds and drum kits. You do not get any sampling capabilities on the rack version however.

As far as the Korg is concerned, I have not used one but there is no denying that it seems to be a staple these days in a lot of hip hop producer's studios.

Good luck,

mIchAEl

I've got both. I would choose the motif first because I like the Rhodes, Wurli, and piano patches better on it. They seem to sit better in a mix, as well. Everything is punchier on it. I do like the Triton though, but if I had to choose only one, I'd go with the motif, hands down. It's hard to explain. It's like: I've got a bose system in one car and a jbl system in the other. I prefer to drive the one with the jbl's. To me it's "punchier" ( or mo punchy).tighter

I've recently been checking out these things as well... as a question to the people who recommended the motiff, what type of music do you guys listen to? From my (albeit small) experience with that keyboard or most of yamaha's stuff, I always get the feeling they are geared towards older gentlemen that listen to "classical" music... I don't know exactly why, but I've never really liked the sound (at least in a pop/rap/dance/etc. context)... even the sounds that are geared towards those genres...

The triton is okay, but I agree the sounds are somewhat small and plastic... I had thought about replacing my xv-5050 with one, but quickly changed my mind... however, there is a new one that is coming out (Triton Extreme), and it uses a real tube... dunno if this is a gimmic or would really help...

The_Pooch: If you don't mind me asking, is there any particular reason you are only considering these two models? ... either way, the best advice is always to go check them out yourself if at all possible... I've been doing this more and more lately, and very happy about it...

Yes, I tend to look for more "classical sounds", I am not into Hip-Hop or Dance/Trance/Fance stuff. The stuff I am producing is Rock/Pop that is usually in the Matchbox 20 / Goo Goo Dolls, Vertical Horizon kind of corner.

Up to this point I am a Roland person. My workhorse for synth sounds is a JV-1010 and it is a fantastic value for the money. I need to spend more time with the higher end XV models - I might be missing something good.

Anyway, I agree with considering more and different units and going to try them out yourself. If possible do it in your familiar environment and use them in a mix. Some of the units sound great by themselves but don't really work well in a full mix.

In all fairness, I went to check out some of the latest mp3's of the ES8 motiff... and, actually, there are some pretty cool sounds for the genre's I mentioned in my previous post... most of my experience while playing with them in stores and casually listening to mp3's of older models were of the above, but I may have been to quick to judge here...

mostly my point is that.. for example, if I went to college and asked "what's a good keyboard for rave music," they would probably tell me yamaha or maybe roland/korg... but if I asked people that wrote music like that all the time, then really an access virus or waldorf q+ or something else (plus a sampler) would be more appropriate... the motiff may be the most appropriate thing for rap, or may not... :D

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I bought the Triton about 5 years ago, mostly to compose R&B with. I never used it on a song because it all sounded sterile.(sampling a few notes from a cd and popping them into my MPC was better for me.) I bought the Motif about two years ago, for the rhodes, piano and string sounds, also for RnB. I used that on a regular basis for quite sometime. You can hear the wood in the piano, even tho there is no wood. The Rhodes are reaaaaally good, they sound very similar to my 1978 Fender Rhodes.

I sold my Motif to buy new monitors because of a tragic accident in moving.(my tannoys got smashed!!!) I sold my Triton years ago. If the opportunity arrose to purchase another Motif, or a Motif rack for a decent price, I would heavily consider getting another one.

Also, I must say that the synth sounds in the motif are also top notch.(I compose a lot of electronica stuff, I also have a Nord Lead 3, and sometimes the Motif took top seat even over that just for synth noises.) Very warm, very analog synth sounding.

Another GREAT keyboard for Piano, B3 and Rhodes is the Nord Electro. It only hase like 6 sounds in it, but they are VERY convincing sounds. I guess they modeled some reeeeealy good instraments. I think they go for about 1,200. I wish I had one of these babys.

OOOH, if you are capable of using VST plugins, there is an excellent program called,"The Grand". Once again, very convincing.

hi there, i think that as a Korg User i have had considerable success with the Triton. I have had more fun with a Triton then with any thing Yamaha or Roland put together. People will give various opinions about different products. I have A/B'd the motif and the triton and the fantom and to me there is no clear winner as far as the sounds go.

If sounds good straight out of the box were a criteria then it has to be the Triton Studio. If you want good synth and organ sounds you gotta use the Triton Studio/Extreme - even for hip hop and rap the drum sounds are exceptionally good and programmed with alot of finese. If you want good pianos and strings and choirs then go for a Roland Fantom or XV module, if you want brass and EP / rhodes then you're better off with the Motif though both the fantom and the triton studio have very good samples as well - after some tweaking.

I searching for a different sound, real sounds as well like brass, strings and things, but mainly synths. My producer would probably love the Motif, cause he loves to use brass, strings, bells, and whistles. I like things like that too, but I wanted to bring something new to the table.

Now Listen:

Don't throw stones and spears at me for contemplating about this, but the main thing that I'm looking for are real drums (I'm mean like a kick in the chest bass, a thick strong snare, basslines to die for, and ect.) So I've been lately considering an MPC.

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