Foobar now plays DVD-A ISOs

[VF]

The picture is complete! ShaPLAY is no longer needed, for any reason.

 

You can now play DVD-A ISOs effortlessly in full bit-perfect quality (if you coordinate your sound card, foobar and reclocking software correctly) – in the best audio player there is! I simply drag and drop an ISO into foobar. Perfect!

 

I tell you. This cements the ISO format as a serious contender to FLAC for archiving your DVD-As. It is both future compatible with gradually-increasing hi-res HTPCs AND it is burnable straight to disc with all the original menus of the release, for playback in your “old” DVD-A player setup.

 

It’ all possible with the latest version of the plugin at http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvdadecoder/.

 

Enjoy!

[ArnoldLayne]

Great news, this is the way to go IMO.

On 12 sep, 23:12, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The picture is complete! ShaPLAY is no longer needed, for any reason.
>
> You can now play DVD-A ISOs effortlessly in full bit-perfect quality (if you

> coordinate your sound card, foobar and reclocking software correctly) - in

[grill]

No need for mounting iso? VF, thanks for this news. Those dvdadecoder
guys really do their best. And that is yet only the version 0.2.5.
What else can be coming up?

On szept. 12, 23:12, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The picture is complete! ShaPLAY is no longer needed, for any reason.
>
> You can now play DVD-A ISOs effortlessly in full bit-perfect quality (if you

> coordinate your sound card, foobar and reclocking software correctly) - in

[JorgeLuiz]

Foobar is cool but don't work in win2000.
i'm a win2000 user because i don't like XP and for my lucky SHAPlay
works in win2000.

cheers!

On Sep 12, 6:12 pm, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The picture is complete! ShaPLAY is no longer needed, for any reason.
>
> You can now play DVD-A ISOs effortlessly in full bit-perfect quality (if you

> coordinate your sound card, foobar and reclocking software correctly) - in

[VF]

I'm not sure what may be coming up. Nothing more may need to be added now.
What feature could be added? Apart from video playback of course, which
foobar obviously doesn't provide, and which personally I don't care for
anyway. With the plugin all tracks on the entire disc will be presented to
you, so nothing is lost despite being menu-less.

[jolson]

It could be added that it worked alright... Several ISO:s I tried just
showed 3 tracks when opening the .ISO, while letting Foobar open
ATS_01_0.IFO after unpacking gave all 12 tracks.

[Lokkerman]

Do you have to change the file extension to .DTS as with Winamp?

 

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component
from here:
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dts and I just get
static.
Thanks...

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[mircea raibulet]

Ok,here s the deal:

Foobar plays Dts files[dts extension],wont play dts wav files[wav ext.] or wav dts packed in flac anvelope.

For playing dts wavs you can try to change ext. to dts.

Cheers,

Mircea

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component
from here:
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dts and I just get
static.
Thanks...

On Sep 13, 7:38 am, jolson <j.jol...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Lokkerman]

that's what I suspected but par for the course and perfectly normal in HTPC software
thx
Lokks

[VF]

With foo_input_dts, you either play dts files by renaming them with a .dts extension, or you add “DTS decoder” to the Active DSPs in the DSP manager in the foobar settings, after doing which, you can play back DTS-WAVs. YMMV though. I get this weird static “click” at the beginning of playing back or resuming a DTS-WAV file. But most others are fine with it.

 

Interestingly, I can simply encode DTS-WAVs to FLAC (making them “DTS-FLAC” files) and the DTS decoder DSP will play them back and I don’t have the weird static click problem either. In the end this is a better solution anyway, as you can tag the files and have an entire DTS-FLAC library. Nice :)

[VF]

You simply convert it to FLAC like any normal wave file. Personally I use
dBpoweramp for its windows explorer right click capability and excellent
encoding options and plugins. (like channel splitting and even joining, I
think). I've encoded FLACs of the most obscure type with dbPoweramp. And
DTS-FLACs obviously.

The bitrate will be less with FLAC as it is losslessly compressed. WAV is a
CBR format (constant bitrate) and is determined by whatever the resolution
and channel count amounts to in your particular wav file, whereas FLAC (and
MLP and I think all other decent lossless compression schemes) is VBR
(variable bitrate) meaning that it only contains the bits necessary at any
given time. E.g. During a silent part the bitrate will be significantly
less, and softer parts will contain less bits than louder parts. Foobar is
probably showing the average bitrate for the file (or indeed the constantly
changing bitrate during playback), not sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: surrou...@googlegroups.com [mailto:surrou...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tab Cursor
Sent: 14 September 2009 17:10
To: SurroundSound
Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Foobar now plays DVD-A ISOs

That's awesome! I, too, hear a click sound with DTS WAVs on my system
through Foobar.

Question: what program are you using to convert 5.1 DTS WAV to 5.1 DTS
FLAC? I've tried both Xrecode II and MediaCoder. However, they seem to
downsample the 5.1 WAVs to 2 Channel. At least Foobar (and MediaCoder)
are telling me they're 2 channel. Also, the bitrate has bumped down
slightly from 1411 to 1262... Any thoughts?

On Sep 14, 12:09 am, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With foo_input_dts, you either play dts files by renaming them with a .dts
> extension, or you add "DTS decoder" to the Active DSPs in the DSP manager
in
> the foobar settings, after doing which, you can play back DTS-WAVs. YMMV
> though. I get this weird static "click" at the beginning of playing back
or
> resuming a DTS-WAV file. But most others are fine with it.
>
> Interestingly, I can simply encode DTS-WAVs to FLAC (making them
"DTS-FLAC"
> files) and the DTS decoder DSP will play them back and I don't have the
> weird static click problem either. In the end this is a better solution
> anyway, as you can tag the files and have an entire DTS-FLAC library. Nice
> :)
>
> From: surrou...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:surrou...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lokkerman
> Sent: 13 September 2009 22:33
> To: surrou...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Foobar now plays DVD-A ISOs
>
> Do you have to change the file extension to .DTS as with Winamp?
>

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
> luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component

> from here:http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dtsand I

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[mircea raibulet]

no video in foobar!

M

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Tab Cursor <tabc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the info... Changing the file extentions from .WAV to .DTS
works great... And now another question...

Does Foobar let you play video?

Thanks again...

On Sep 13, 4:16 pm, Lokkerman <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> that's what I suspected but par for the course and perfectly normal in HTPC
> software
> thx
> Lokks
>

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:03 AM, mircea raibulet <mraibu...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> > Ok,here s the deal:
> > Foobar plays Dts files[dts extension],wont play dts wav files[wav ext.] or
> > wav dts packed in flac anvelope.
> > For playing dts wavs you can try to change ext. to dts.
> > Cheers,
> > Mircea
>

> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
> >> luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component
> >> from here:

> >>http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dtsand I just get

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[polmuaddib]

Tried the new dvda plugin for foobar2000 and it doesn't read Bryan
Ferry - Boys And Girls DVDA ISO right. It shows and plays tracks
wrong...
I wasn't really in a mood to try others, but I suspect that a few will
really work. Maybe the next update will be better, but until then I
will mount ISOs.

BTW, it is too bad that there is no freedb for DVDAs like with CDs.
You don't know which song is played ( only track number). And if you
put more DVDAs in a playlist, you really don't have a clue.

> > > >>http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dtsandI just get

[ArnoldLayne]

Me thinks there is something wrong with the BF BAG disc image. If you
extract the files with IsoBuster, Foobar plays them flawlessly. It has
really become my favourite application for PC listening.


On 18 sep, 02:13, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep...I thought it was my copy...Foobar won't play Bryan Ferry or
> Linkin Park's re-animation.
> However, Creative Lab's DVD Audio player handles them both just fine.
> But do you want to
> spend $$ to get a software DVD A player? Or maybe just save up and get
> a universal player?
>
> Creative's DVD Audio player also uses Gracenote. It will look up the
> tracks and list them for you.
>
> However, not all the DVD-A's out there are legit copies...There's no
> way to get the track list for those...
>
> Also, Creative's DVD Audio player won't play Watermarked DVD-A's...It
> only gives you 30-second samples of each track.
> And, on my system, most of the time it just locks up on Watermarked
> DVD-A's. Sometimes closing the program and re-opening
> helps. Sometimes a full reboot is required.
>
> Therefore, I think this Foobar add-in is a welcome addition to my home
> theater PC. With the exception of these two DVD-A's, it plays
> all the others (watermarked or not)...I'll forego the tracklist for
> the quality. And it sure gives you more info. than ShaPlay.

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[polmuaddib]

Oh, don't get me wrong, please. I love Foobar. I am just pointing out
some bugs. It is not a real problem, since I mount ISOs in virtual
drive and then everything works perfectly. In my opinion, the ability
to read ISOs is not so important as a video window. I mean, if you
have visualisation windows in foobar, which are of so little value,
why not add a video window. Some DVDAs contain interesting slides,
lyrics etc. And if you want a pure audio experience, you just turn it
off, right? Is it so complicated to include something like that? Or is
it the principle to keep Foobar a pure audio player?
Thank you.

Also, I can't use Creative's DVDA player because of Vista 64 Ultimate.
It is not supported system. Can't understand that either...

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[bobchewie]

is this an update? as the dvd a decoder in foobar doesnt recognise
iso files
i will try this link

On Sep 12, 10:12 pm, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The picture is complete! ShaPLAY is no longer needed, for any reason.
>
> You can now play DVD-A ISOs effortlessly in full bit-perfect quality (if you

> coordinate your sound card, foobar and reclocking software correctly) - in

[bobchewie]

DTS FLACS Now? thers a novelty...

On Sep 14, 8:09 am, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With foo_input_dts, you either play dts files by renaming them with a .dts
> extension, or you add "DTS decoder" to the Active DSPs in the DSP manager in
> the foobar settings, after doing which, you can play back DTS-WAVs. YMMV
> though. I get this weird static "click" at the beginning of playing back or
> resuming a DTS-WAV file. But most others are fine with it.
>
> Interestingly, I can simply encode DTS-WAVs to FLAC (making them "DTS-FLAC"
> files) and the DTS decoder DSP will play them back and I don't have the
> weird static click problem either. In the end this is a better solution
> anyway, as you can tag the files and have an entire DTS-FLAC library. Nice
> :)
>
> From: surrou...@googlegroups.com [mailto:surrou...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lokkerman
> Sent: 13 September 2009 22:33
> To: surrou...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Foobar now plays DVD-A ISOs
>
> Do you have to change the file extension to .DTS as with Winamp?
>

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
> luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component

> from here:http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dtsand I just get

[Goran Janicijevic]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:00:14 +0200, polmuaddib <vladimi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Or is it the principle to keep Foobar a pure audio player?

Not only a principle, but a dogma.
--
Simplius

[Richard]

Can i add my issues with FooBar? I too have the annoying problem of that burst of noise at the start of each DTS track, really a pain.

 

Any chance of a fix for that?

 

have tried to play DVD-A's with no joy  :-(

 

 

OD

[gshannon]

VF, thanks for the tip on adding the DTS Decoder to the Active DSPs. I
had been changing the file extension to play DTS files. Now they play
without changing them. Haven't experienced the static burst/click I've
seen discussed. Am using version 0.9.6.8 if that helps anyone.

George

On Sep 14, 1:09 am, "VF" <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With foo_input_dts, you either play dts files by renaming them with a .dts
> extension, or you add "DTS decoder" to the Active DSPs in the DSP manager in
> the foobar settings, after doing which, you can play back DTS-WAVs. YMMV
> though. I get this weird static "click" at the beginning of playing back or
> resuming a DTS-WAV file. But most others are fine with it.
>
> Interestingly, I can simply encode DTS-WAVs to FLAC (making them "DTS-FLAC"
> files) and the DTS decoder DSP will play them back and I don't have the
> weird static click problem either. In the end this is a better solution
> anyway, as you can tag the files and have an entire DTS-FLAC library. Nice
> :)
>
> From: surrou...@googlegroups.com [mailto:surrou...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lokkerman
> Sent: 13 September 2009 22:33
> To: surrou...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Foobar now plays DVD-A ISOs
>
> Do you have to change the file extension to .DTS as with Winamp?
>

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Foobar 2000 plays the DVD-A's and FLAC's too. Question: Anyone had any
> luck playing DTS WAV's with it? I've added the DTS Input component

> from here:http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dtsand I just get

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[VF]

Just reportin...the plugin's had some updates...maybe the problems are
fixed. By the changelog it sounds like maybe it has.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1302992

[jolson]

On the machine I currently use I only have one DVD-A, but that works
much better now. Probably perfect.

Probably? Yes, when opening the ISO I get 17 surround tracks and 16
downmix stereo tracks. The last of the surround tracks is a setup
track, so I assume it has no downmix info associated, and it's correct
to only get 16 stereo tracks.

[robert chewter]

yes seems to work ok...i think vlc plays iso files..but the mlp output is still only stereo..