DTS-HD Master Audio Encoder Suite

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VF

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:08:14 AM10/18/09
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This has finally been cracked! Someone first mentioned about it on the
hub and then I googled around and found it at this page:

http://www.warezthegfx.com/applications/146421-dts-hd-master-audio-encoder-suite-v2-00-24-cracked-neviens.html

I got round to installing this and took a peek - it looks really cool!
Useful for anyone dabbling in blu-ray. But...despite Blu-ray's
technical advantages (like how a core lossy DTS stream is
automatcially encoded inside the hi-res DTS-MA stream, for backwards
compatibility), DVD-A is more widespread among surround nuts and HTPC/
media server/FLAC are slowly taking over anyway. Yes mateys, disc is
dying whether you like it or not.

I don't have a blu-ray player, they're still too expensive and with a
HTPC Blu-ray setup I see no reason to get involved in blu-ray
authoring anyway. DVD-A and FLAC are fine for me. I only have blu-ray
hardware so that I can enjoy whatever is commercially released on the
format.

jolson

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:52:11 AM10/18/09
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Neil Wilkes has said that the DTS-HD StreamPlayer that should be
included in the Encoder suite is great to have for people with a home
network. You run the StreamPlayer on a server and it streams any known
variation of DTS to any other computer in the network.

Thanks for the find!

On 18 Okt, 12:08, VF <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This has finally been cracked! Someone first mentioned about it on the
> hub and then I googled around and found it at this page:
>
> http://www.warezthegfx.com/applications/146421-dts-hd-master-audio-en...

VF

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Oct 18, 2009, 9:03:34 AM10/18/09
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I cannot find the elusive DTS-HD StreamPlayer in this cracked 2.00.24 version OR an uncracked 1.1 version which you can find here: http://www.rapidshareindex.com/DTS-HD-Master-Audio-Suite_146904.html

Weird. It must be a separate installer to the "setup.exe" which is the main suite installer, and for whatever reason it hasn't been included in these leaked releases that we have.

I did find a similar product called "Neyrinck SoundCode DTS-HD StreamPlayer" - it's a plugin for ProTools (including M-powered) and is not to be confused with DTS' own standalone and more updated (version 2 I think) "DTS-HD StreamPlayer". You can download a demo copy at neyrinck.com but not much use anyway.

Again....just give me FLAC, baby <3.

jolson

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Oct 18, 2009, 12:50:22 PM10/18/09
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A StreamPlayer is here, uncracked: http://rapidshare.com/files/294696718/StreamP.rar

If we're lucky the crack for the Encoder will also crack the Player
(if hell has frozen over, I think)

On 18 Okt, 15:03, VF <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I cannot find the elusive DTS-HD StreamPlayer in this cracked 2.00.24
> version OR an uncracked 1.1 version which you can find here:http://www.rapidshareindex.com/DTS-HD-Master-Audio-Suite_146904.html
>
> Weird. It must be a separate installer to the "setup.exe" which is the main
> suite installer, and for whatever reason it hasn't been included in these
> leaked releases that we have.
>
> I did find a similar product called "Neyrinck SoundCode DTS-HD StreamPlayer"
> - it's a plugin for ProTools (including M-powered) and is not to be confused
> with DTS' own standalone and more updated (version 2 I think) "DTS-HD
> StreamPlayer". You can download a demo copy at neyrinck.com but not much use
> anyway.
>
> Again....just give me FLAC, baby <3.
>

elshagon

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Oct 18, 2009, 5:00:49 PM10/18/09
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Can these be offerred up on the hub. It looks like membership is
needed? for download.
> > > > format.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

jolson

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:07:53 PM10/18/09
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No membership is needed, just select free download. Then you have to
wait a couple of minutes before download can start and 15 minutes
between each download.

Andre Massa

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:23:46 PM10/18/09
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Avast detected a virus/trojan at the setup file ( Win32:Trojan-gen).  Crack was OK
Did anybody have the same problem?


2009/10/18 jolson <j.jo...@gmail.com>

elshagon

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:34:30 PM10/18/09
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Hmmm, I'll wait for a verified clean version. Thanks guys.

On Oct 18, 3:23 pm, Andre Massa <andre.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Avast detected a virus/trojan at the setup file ( Win32:Trojan-gen).  Crack
> was OKDid anybody have the same problem?
>
> 2009/10/18 jolson <j.jol...@gmail.com>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andremassa- Hide quoted text -

VF

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Oct 18, 2009, 7:56:25 PM10/18/09
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To be honest, I'm really starting to get frustrated with reports of false positives. To think that the setup file itself is a trojan is ridiculous. This is the real legit software (from DTS Inc.) here, I installed it, and yes it's uncracked and needs to be cracked.

Blind trust in anti-virus software (when you know there are famous cases of false positives) is no more logical than blindly trusting in the reported software itself. You have to do other research to make an educated guess about whether the file is legit or not. Weigh up the odds  - would someone infect an extremely obscure piece of software that's not even cracked for wide use?.

If you know anything about the "The Scene" (like I do - go read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene if you have no idea what this all is), you'll know how these releases work, where they come from and HOW they trickle throughout the internets. Without going too much into overkill (:P), I'll tell you how I've investigated the gear 8 crack and concluded that it's fine.

http://pre.scenedb.org is a Scene databse site. It lists ALL well known scene releases that spread around the scene. If a crack is listed on there, it's legit. The question is then, whether the file from warez-bb was infected but just carrying the same release name. Well, as we see here: http://pre.scenedb.org/index.php?preq=GEAR.Pro.Mastering.Edition.v8.00.23.Incl.KeyMaker.and.Patch-DVT, the gear 8 crack was first distributed in The Scene (from release group DVT), at about 12:53pm on 28-04-2009. Another prebot which I looked up listed it as an hour earlier - must be a bot positioned closer to the original topsite source.

Now, I found the Gear 8 Pro crack on Usenet: http://www.bintube.com/nzb/pid/f1b27fd639f0ee05598ead99f01b280b/11771_altbin_EFNet_Full_GEAR_Pro_Mastering_Edition_v8_00_23_Incl_KeyMaker_and_Patch_DVT_13_nzb

This copy of the crack is in full original scene format (rar'ed and tz'ed to death), with the typical scene file structure and, as customary of the release group DVT, the crack files contained in a peculiar RAR file called "I_LOVE_DVT.RAR", are all in tact.

As you can see, it was posted to usenet at around 4/28/2009 4:50:02 PM. That's mere hours after the original crack was released. Which is about how long it takes for a crack to travel from the scene to usenet. This usenet poster, if you look him up, is so prolific that it's obvious that it's not a person, but a bot. It's someone at the bottom of the scene, leeching off a dumpsite or even a private scene p2p tracker or something.

It's impossible for it to have been maliciously and deliberately infected in such a short time, especially considering how the files are perfect scene formatted files and by a regular poster. This is the cleanest source I've managed to get so far, but I still will get a *personal* trusted fresh scene-sourced copy from a friend of mine to make absolutely sure of it (if even just to prove my methods). But I'm just showing how I know what I'm talking about with these cracks, and that guys, you don't need to be so cautious. This gear crack (as an example) is legit, and it contains the SAME exact files as the one posted at warez-bb.

BTW I did a Kaspersky scan of my entire computer the other day and it found over 13 cases of what I believe to be false positives - well known and famous/trusted keygens that I and thousands of others have used for *years* now (I store them on my hard drives for future use). I don't remember past virus scans picking up so many. I honestly think virus databases are getting increasingly "infected" (hah) with false positives, these days. They're getting *too* good for their own selves.

VF

elshagon

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:39:56 AM10/19/09
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yes it is true that a lot of antivirus programs detect these as false
positives, possibly how they're packed. What's cool is with this
program cracked we can now take dvd-a quality audio and use them
easily in a blu-ray structure for more playback options. Plus you can
now couple that audio with HD video if you wish.

On Oct 18, 4:56 pm, VF <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To be honest, I'm really starting to get frustrated with reports of false
> positives. To think that the setup file itself is a trojan is ridiculous.
> This is the real legit software (from DTS Inc.) here, I installed it, and
> yes it's uncracked and needs to be cracked.
>
> Blind trust in anti-virus software (when you know there are famous cases of
> false positives) is no more logical than blindly trusting in the reported
> software itself. You have to do other research to make an educated guess
> about whether the file is legit or not. Weigh up the odds  - would someone
> infect an extremely obscure piece of software that's not even cracked for
> wide use?.
>
> If you know anything about the "The Scene" (like I do - go readhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_sceneif you have no idea what this all
> is), you'll know how these releases work, where they come from and HOW they
> trickle throughout the internets. Without going too much into overkill (:P),
> I'll tell you how I've investigated the gear 8 crack and concluded that it's
> fine.
>
> http://pre.scenedb.orgis a Scene databse site. It lists ALL well known
> scene releases that spread around the scene. If a crack is listed on there,
> it's legit. The question is then, whether the file from warez-bb was
> infected but just carrying the same release name. Well, as we see here:http://pre.scenedb.org/index.php?preq=GEAR.Pro.Mastering.Edition.v8.0...,
> the gear 8 crack was first distributed in The Scene (from release group
> DVT), at about 12:53pm on 28-04-2009. Another prebot which I looked up
> listed it as an hour earlier - must be a bot positioned closer to the
> original topsite source.
>
> Now, I found the Gear 8 Pro crack on Usenet:http://www.bintube.com/nzb/pid/f1b27fd639f0ee05598ead99f01b280b/11771...
> > was OKDid anybody have the same problem?
>
> > 2009/10/18 jolson <j.jol...@gmail.com>
> >http://www.linkedin.com/in/andremassa- Hide quoted text -

Stephen Disney

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Oct 19, 2009, 2:16:13 AM10/19/09
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Its simple.  The action of cracking an installed program via Keygen is basically Trojan behavior.  So it sets off your scan...
S

jolson

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:56:36 AM10/19/09
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The problem is when you, as I did, download Gear 8 and get an anti-
virus report. Not on the keygen or the patch file, but on the exe file
after it being patched. Deciding it's a false positive I use the
program for a while, half an hour later Symantec anti-virus goes
berserk and finds a virus/trojan. After cleaning the file in a Windows
sub-dir, it took ten seconds for a new virus file to appear there. It
took hours and reading many forum posts for people with similar
problems to get the machine clean.

This doesn't mean that it's 100% sure Gear 8 was infected. It could
have been that the Warez-BB site that day was infected (lately a lot
of "normal" sites has gotten infected due to IIS vulnerabilities), it
*could* have been my anti-virus program just made an automatic update
and now could find a virus I had there before... But I did no other
downloads that day, and I don't think I want to try Gear 8 from Warez-
BB again...

I haven't installed this DTS-HD Master Audio Encoder yet (that
computer is during rebuilding due to failed HDD), but have run a
couple of anti-virus programs on it and nothing is found.

On 19 Okt, 01:56, VF <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To be honest, I'm really starting to get frustrated with reports of false
> positives. To think that the setup file itself is a trojan is ridiculous.
> This is the real legit software (from DTS Inc.) here, I installed it, and
> yes it's uncracked and needs to be cracked.
>
> Blind trust in anti-virus software (when you know there are famous cases of
> false positives) is no more logical than blindly trusting in the reported
> software itself. You have to do other research to make an educated guess
> about whether the file is legit or not. Weigh up the odds  - would someone
> infect an extremely obscure piece of software that's not even cracked for
> wide use?.
>
> If you know anything about the "The Scene" (like I do - go readhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_sceneif you have no idea what this all
> is), you'll know how these releases work, where they come from and HOW they
> trickle throughout the internets. Without going too much into overkill (:P),
> I'll tell you how I've investigated the gear 8 crack and concluded that it's
> fine.
>
> http://pre.scenedb.orgis a Scene databse site. It lists ALL well known
> scene releases that spread around the scene. If a crack is listed on there,
> it's legit. The question is then, whether the file from warez-bb was
> infected but just carrying the same release name. Well, as we see here:http://pre.scenedb.org/index.php?preq=GEAR.Pro.Mastering.Edition.v8.0...,
> the gear 8 crack was first distributed in The Scene (from release group
> DVT), at about 12:53pm on 28-04-2009. Another prebot which I looked up
> listed it as an hour earlier - must be a bot positioned closer to the
> original topsite source.
>
> Now, I found the Gear 8 Pro crack on Usenet:http://www.bintube.com/nzb/pid/f1b27fd639f0ee05598ead99f01b280b/11771...
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Andre Massa <andre.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Avast detected a virus/trojan at the setup file ( Win32:Trojan-gen).  Crack
> > was OKDid anybody have the same problem?
>
> > 2009/10/18 jolson <j.jol...@gmail.com>

grill

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:51:46 AM10/19/09
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Some nice DVD-Audio compilations in Blu.Ray format have already
appeared on Russian trackers. These home-made compilations (Mark
Knopfler, Talking Heads, Bob Marley-Lee Perry) contain DTS-HD MA audio
presumably encoded with this cracked version of encoder suite.

On okt. 18, 12:08, VF <vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This has finally been cracked! Someone first mentioned about it on the
> hub and then I googled around and found it at this page:
>
> http://www.warezthegfx.com/applications/146421-dts-hd-master-audio-en...

RW

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:48:57 AM10/19/09
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I have a copy of the DTS Master Suite Version 1.1 in my Video FIles
\DTS-HD_Master_Audio_Suite_v1.1_WebNeo folder if any of you Hubbers is
interested in this older version...

-RW-

grill

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:38:07 PM10/19/09
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RW, I think it's only a demo.
> > - Show quoted text -- Idézett szöveg elrejtése -
>
> - Idézett szöveg megjelenítése -

jolson

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:47:15 PM10/19/09
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Yes, I have that too, it's not a cracked full version.

robert chewter

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Oct 24, 2009, 3:08:55 AM10/24/09
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ok so why does it say thats its a cracked version then on that site?  i already have the demo version...the dongle
one...if you go to this site  it says ts cracked..trouble is you have to pay up to be  member before download..

elshagon

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Oct 29, 2009, 9:37:18 PM10/29/09
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BTW found this on the torrents.ru site as well in case anyone's
looking for it on sites other than the warez sites (which often light
up my antivirus when visiting them). Once having this what's the
process in authoring a bluray disc? What software are people using to
author the disc with dts-ma?

On Oct 24, 12:08 am, robert chewter <robertchew...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> > > > - Idézett szöveg megjelenítése -- Hide quoted text -

dylanlover

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:02:02 PM10/29/09
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Once you have created your .dtshd file use Tsmuxer or MultiAvchd
to create a BDaudio or Avchd disc / file with blank video.
Hope that helps..

elshagon

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:43:12 PM10/29/09
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thanks, will try it out. Would like to find the streamplayer as well
if anyone see's it around.

elshagon

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:00:08 PM10/29/09
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btw I was able to find the Streamplayer too on rapidshare.
> > Hope that helps..- Hide quoted text -

Stephen Disney

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:59:18 PM10/29/09
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link?
S

elshagon

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Oct 30, 2009, 12:49:32 AM10/30/09
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Can we, should we, post rapidshare links here?
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Stephen Disney

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Oct 30, 2009, 1:07:25 AM10/30/09
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One might hint where and what to search...
S

elshagon

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Oct 30, 2009, 2:07:59 AM10/30/09
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I found the link on tehparadox

Stephen Disney

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Oct 30, 2009, 3:12:28 AM10/30/09
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Thanks!
S

VF

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Oct 30, 2009, 3:40:53 AM10/30/09
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Elshagon - Fantastic find!!! It seems it was only released just last week.
Whoever "neviens" is, (I think he's some polish guy), he's humbly cracked
and shared both the suite and the streamplayer.

As for posting rs links...not directly, please. You can post rs links
containing links themselves if it's only occasionally, but never direct
links to copyrighted material - otherwise we are no different to warez-bb or
tehparadox. It's fine to link to other websites at any time:
http://tehparadox.com/forum/f51/dts%96hd-streamplayer-v2-0-a-566677/


A very useful post on that page:

" Many ppl have been waiting a long time for DTS-HD MAS and StreamPlayer to
be "released"! To answer your question about DTSHD StreamPlayer, not only
can it play any DTS standalone files (.wav for DTSwav, .dts, .cpt and
.dtshd) it can also decode them to separate mono wav files for each channel
[i.e. 7.1 dts-hd MA (master) lossless]. To decode them, you load your
selected dts file or files, then click on the playlist and the playlist will
slide out the right, where you will see buttons to batch decode all your dts
files to PCM (MS wav format). You can then remux/interleave them into
multichannel wavs or convert to other multichannel audio formats by your
choosing using 3rd party encoders (i.e. multichannel flac).

Only thing is that StreamPlayer will not play/decode ripped DTS-HD files
demuxed from blu-ray, as the DTS-HD encoder (DTS-HD MAS) puts a header
including some additional bytes at the end of the encoded .dtshd file which
it uses to store extra info, and this header is required for StreamTools and
StreamPlayer (ripped .dtshd files have this header missing and unable to be
read with these tools). The only other method to decode them is using a
freeware app called "eac3to.exe" along with the install of Arcsoft
TotalMedia Theatre which it uses to decode .dtshd files.

One thing which bothers me a bit about StreamTools is it has no volume
slider."

jolson

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Oct 30, 2009, 5:40:39 AM10/30/09
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Yes, great find :-)

grill

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Oct 30, 2009, 5:50:28 AM10/30/09
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Thank you guys :-)

elshagon

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Oct 30, 2009, 6:19:20 PM10/30/09
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BTW have the Streamplayer up and running with my Creative X-FI audio
card. For those with the same card I used Audio Creation Mode and
enabled bit matched playback in the creative settings to get 5.1
playback. Listening to Grover Washington Just the Two of Us in DTS-
HDMA from a bluray release from torrents.ru. Sounds great, of course
you could always just extract the audio and just play the .wav (or
flac) in Foobar, but just wanted to make sure the Streamplayer works,
and it does. It appears the DTS-HD encoder can encode any type of DTS
file you want, so this now seems to be the one encoder to rule them
all. Good stuff!

jolson

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Oct 30, 2009, 7:14:01 PM10/30/09
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"Neil Wilkes":
Also with the DTS-HD SAS or DTS-HD MAS suites as well.
FWIW, it might sound expensive at around $1500, but the DTS-HD MAS
suite can be haggled for, and is very well worth the extra money.
And here's why.
It comes with an additional application - the DTS StreamPlayer. This
will play right off your HDD all your DTS audio files.
DTS-WAV, DTS-DVD extractions, DTS-HD Master Audio (lossless).
Why is this important? Because it allows you yto extract WAV files
from watermarked DVDA discs, encode them to DTS-HD Master Audio
(lossless) and the watermark - although intact - is not picked up by
the streamplayer at all. You can back up your entire collection to
around 60% of the file space of WAV files.
Right off the desktop.

jolson

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Oct 30, 2009, 7:20:59 PM10/30/09
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More "NW":
Given the new DTS-HD encoders can be bought in 2 different flavours -
standard & Master suites - and for the price they are available for, I
have found them to be a superb investment with some unexpected side
benefits too.

When I bought the MAS suite it was at first a standalone beast, and
the first revision added a streamplayer to it as well. Perfect for
proofing as you can line it up with a Quicktime video file & check
everything. It plays all types of DTS too - core audio (the original
type) at both half & full bitrates, DTS-CD discs, DTS-HD High
Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio Lossless.

Unexpe ctedly, in version 2 (a free update) DTS included a decoder,
which will allow you to set up a playlist and not only proof your
files but decode back to PCM as well - at the encoded resolution. No
more command line tools.

The encoder is amazing. No other word will do. you have options for
BluRay, SubAudio, DVD & Music CD (DTS-CD discs) at all allowable
resolutions for each format as well as embedded downmix coefficients
thatactually work on nice, sensible increments rather than the clumsy
0, -3, -6dB available in Dolby Digital.

Add to this a comprehensive & automatic verification with log files,
and a comprehensive set of stream tools for cutting/joining,
restriping timecodes etc and it becomes invaluable as a toolkit that
istruly future proof, given that DTS-HD Master Audio is one of the
mandatory audio types in Blu Ray.

The quality just got a lot better too, even at the basic .cpt "legacy"
codec standard. I have 4 DTS encoders now, and they get better. Bottom
of the pile is my old SurCode DTS-DVD, then the old Nuendo encoder,
then the DTS-PSE - but this one is so good I have had people tell me
they cannot easily tell the difference between a DTS stream from this
& the lossless versions. Okay, I can pick the lossless & I suspect a
lot of audio engineers can (we all should be able to but that is
another thread) but that takes nothing away from how great the quality
is. Stack it up next to a Dolby Digital stream (we did this) and it
sounds as if someone has put a sack on the monitors by comparison. The
odd thing is that your ears rapidly get used to the much lower quality
of DD, and if you had no alternative you would never know the
difference of course, but as the bitrate is only 1509kbps with a half
bitrate option also available it makes sense to me to include a DTS
stream. Finally - as if this were not enough - you get access to the
DTS online database, and can register your titles there at no charge,
and you do not get anything like the same palaver over logo usage that
you do with Dolby. Download your logo, use it.

VF

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Oct 30, 2009, 7:43:27 PM10/30/09
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I agree that DTS are a fantastic company and pwn Dolby in every single
competing codec or technology. Dolby is the established beast since the 60s
that doesn't care as much for raw quality, DTS is the new face in town since
the 90s that probably works harder and cares more about their product in
contrast to Dolby Inc. who lazily rely on their taken for granted movie
industry position.

But we all know that FLAC and foobar and open-source and free will one day
rule over all these disc-based formats...well I *believe* so...;)


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