Oppo plays DSD files now.

[realafrica]

Good news

:)

http://www.stereophile.com/content/news-flash-oppo-now-plays-dsd-files

 

[scolumbo]

I was just reading about this on AVSForum. While the 103/105 are crippled in some ways (no ISO support, Cinavia detection, and now AVCHD playback removed), this is an immensely important new feature. Not only will the 103/105 play back DFF/DSF files from an attached hard drive, but also from a network SMB share. This feature alone may be worth the purchase price of a 103. I'm thinking the 103 may need to reside next to my ISO-playing, Cinavia-free 93.

[August Bleed]

Well that is mighty generous given that it already, you know, supports DSD from shiny discs...What would be more generous is to extend the support of those codecs to the 93/95...Im not losing ISO support tho!

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[scolumbo]

Well, you don't need any of this capability if you want to stick with playing shiny discs. To have complete digital playback, you may need 2 Oppo players - the 93 to play ISOs and files with cinavia, and the 103 to play DFF/DSF files.  What, it's only another $500 to have it all. ;-)

[August Bleed]

They sorta left a bad taste in my mouth after removing features that I already had paid for.  Granted I needn't update my firmware.  My point being, Oppo giveth, and the powers that be taketh away.  I just wonder how long before this capability is removed in a future 'update' to keep someone at Sony happy.  And don't tell me that the tech is dead so why would Sony care.  DVD-A is DOA and has been for years.  That doesn't mean the ability to play those ISO's didn't go the way of the dodo, or the SACD.  If the 103 can't be used as a DAC (like the 105 can) then it is essentially a slightly upgraded version of the 93/95--since it cannot be used as a DAC like both these units I am unclear why DSF, DFF support is impossible on these older machines.  Don't get me wrong--they seem like compelling and well priced solutions for digital playback and I cherish my 93.  That said I am hoping things like these machines will bring down the price for DSD DACs. The 105 looks quite amazing however.  If only they hadn't screwed the whole thing up removing iso support...That said is there anything like the Oppo out there that does the ISO and DSD as well as DAC capabilities?  Wasn't there a machine called the Dune that was similar?  I don't think it did DSD though.  One last thing--I'd think it'd be a trivial thing to add DSD support to something that already supports SACD--the DAC is already there...I am unsure why this is such a problem.  That said, the 105 might make good use of the Minimserver software which allows DSF DFF playback over UPNP/DLNA.  Looks like it might have the hardware to actually support this natively.  Anyone know?  To me being able to stream is probably even more important than the usb stick.

[August Bleed]

I forgot to proof before I sent this out.  That said, there are a lot of that saids.

[scolumbo]

I believe the Dune players will play Blu-ray ISOs but not DVD-A ISOs. Nor will it play DSD. I've heard that the Oppo 93/95 players probably have the hardware capability to do DSD but the chip-maker, Mediatek, has no real incentive to devote any resources to develop DSD capability on players that have been superseded by a new generation. After all, what incentive is there to sell new players if they keep improving the old one?

More than just about anyone else, I think Oppo tends to test the limits of what they can get away with. and unfortunately, the Blu-ray licensing has required them to pull back when they've gone too far in the minds of certain studios (eliminating ISO support, and just recently plugging the backdoor way of playing AVCHD from BMVD folders).

There is no one box solution, maybe there never will be when the studios are so paranoid, and can apply pressure through licensing requirements.

[scolumbo]

By the way, there are legitimate places selling DFF/DSF files, so I don't expect support for playback of these files to go away. Hopefully, we'll see other lower cost players add this capability in the future.

[Stephen Brandon]

Interesting! What stores are selling such files? I might just be interested in buying some music already in the format!

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:26 PM, scolumbo <saco...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, there are legitimate places selling DFF/DSF files, so I don't expect support for playback of these files to go away. Hopefully, we'll see other lower cost players add this capability in the future.

[Peter Cawthron]

http://dsd-guide.com/where-can-you-find-dsd-music-downloads

 

P.

[Stephen Brandon]

Nice! Thanks!

[scolumbo]

Another "feature" that has been added with this latest firmware update is support for cue files. I was waiting confirmation, but it does now enable gapless playback using a single FLAC or WAV file with a cue sheet. If only the 103/105 had ISO playback, it would be about perfect.

[grill]

To add to all of this Chinese firmware modifications have recently appeered for Pioneer BDP-450 / LX55 players that allow BD/DVD and SACD ISO playback.

[scolumbo]

Cool, does that also include DVD-A ISOs?

[grill]

Unfortunately got no info. I own neither players and the jailbroke firmwares may need activation codes to be purchased. If a Chinese fellow could help I'd appreciate it.

[August Bleed]

According to someone on CA the DSD playback feature beta disables SACD-R playback.  See Oppo giveth...

Anyway I assume this isn't a problem for those who are using DSF DFF files but it does suggest a trend...so next firmware they take the USB option back right? I would think with all the interest in these players the fact that no one has hacked one is astonishing.

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[realafrica]

Hacked? Not sure exactly what you mean by that, but there is quite a history of these great Oppo machines being hacked, altered, moded or added to .