Anyone see the new recording software being made by Sony?

[August Bleed]

I'm sorry I can't recall where I saw this so I can't link (my bad).  But I saw a demo on the internet yesterday.  The software (apparently with help from Sony) takes a stereo track and can isolate any sound from the track.  So let's say you have some 1968 Beatles you want to do in 5.1 but no multitracks.  You are now able to completely isolate the individual instruments and it is VERY convincing.  In fact they used the Beatles in the demo.  The vocals were completely isolated from stereo tracks, and other music was set to it.  Then they showed how they could isolate other instruments/sounds from the rest of the recording.  These were straight from CD, not studio tracks.  I was thinking for things like Aja where the multis are missing, this could mean a proper 5.1 mix, even if it's done by SBU or what have you.  I was pretty amazed.  They can literally isolate just about anything in the recording.  Very impressive.  

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August
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[Peter Cawthron]

Are you talking about Spectral Layers? Sony are distributing this software from Divide Frame.

 

http://www.divideframe.com/

 

P.

[August Bleed]

I do believe you are correct.  Pretty cool for those cases where only a safety copy or such is all to be had.  I was impressed but I don't produce or engineer so it may already exist in some form.

August 

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[August Bleed]

Its not showing the video I saw unfortunately.  It was specifically around the tech to restore multis from stereo sources, though it's highlighted as a feature prominently.  It was a very cool demo and was really good as I said at isolating individual instruments from a bunch of them in a stereo track.  It was as if you were listening to the actual multitrack (or one of the multitracks rather).

[insan...@web.de]

Hmm, interesting,

but I don't think its the Divide Frame Spectral Layer software which looks more like iZoptope RX2 audio restoration (even though I noticed they mention surround capabilities (but only for the enterprise version, which sounds quite expensive like 1000++€ to me)).

Maybe Sony only got mentioned/credited because they got the rights to the Beatles songs ?

http://www.audionamix.com/ offers some unmix/stem creation service (but don't have any user-software as far as I see it),

and apart from M/S processing (which might work nice on "Beatles-Stereo" with hard left or right paned instruments/vocals) 

I found http://www.quikquak.com/Prod_MashTactic.html

which is a mix of spectral splitting/EQing and separating pan positions.

So far my Googlefoo did not come up with anything other useful.

insania

[Stephen Disney]

Not to belittle this... hope its as good as they claim...  But technically, its simply not possible.  Yes hard panned Beatles could feasibly be fairly convincingly separated, but tthe rest is simply a pipe dream.  I still firmly believe this kind of tech could be used to create stems that could be mixed, but the result would simply improve directionality, not be discrete.
S

[August Bleed]

The software I was referencing was created in some part by Sony and distributed by someone else.  I think only the first one fits the bill.  The video I saw was able to isolate the wavforms of individual instruments and laid them out just like there were umpteen tracks a la a multitrack set up albiet the track itself was a stereo track already mixed down.  There was also some demo from a track for which no multi existed.  I believe the first person got it correct in that that was the software the particular video I saw referenced.  Although they may have selected a track that was perhaps easy from which to extract that kind of info, what they did show was nonetheless very impressive.  It didn't matter how minute the sound the software was able to distinguish it from the other instruments and recreate a wavform to represent it.  That can then be isolated as a track and the entire recording can be manipulated as if you had the original multi stems.  It was wild.  It seemed to be every bit as good as they claimed.  I've never heard that done convincingly from stereo without there being at least some attendant ambient noise from the extraction.  So not sure what the other software mentioned but the software in question was either licensed from Sony and distributed by someone else or they had some hand in it and are not actually distributing it--and the first mentioned is the only one in that category.  There may as I said be other things which are similar.  This is the only one I had the pleasure of seeing demoed and it was seriously cool.  I immediately thought 5.1 Aja.