Beatles "Rockband" mogg files!

[Dale]

I thought that some of you might be interested in these. I've been
mixing "Rubber Soul" into quad plus sub for the last couple days using
Audacity. I think it sounds pretty good!

Have fun!

http://www.mediafire.com/?87sa4hvo8dx4k

[Dale]

I thought I should expound on the above. Mogg files (NOT moog), are
multichannel ogg vorbis files. Audacity is one of among many programs
that can open them.

The files are ripped from "Rockband" game discs. Here is a link to an
interview with the guys who prepared the Beatles songs for use with
Rockband. One of them is George Martin's son Giles.

http://www.thebeatlesrockband.com/behindthescenes/post/martin-rigopul...

I also found this site dedicated to using mogg files to create Beatles
surround music.

http://beatlesremixers.freeforums.org/index.php

[Paul Garfunkel]

Dale,

Your 6 months behind the times. This has been done already as well as Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper an a 2 disc mix of the remaining rock band tracks. All in dts 5.1

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[Dale]

Paul;

Well, let's look at it as my contribution to the subject, for what
it's worth.

Dale

On Mar 4, 12:12 pm, Paul Garfunkel <paulgarfun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dale,
>
> Your 6 months behind the times. This has been done already as well as Abbey
> Road, Sgt. Pepper an a 2 disc mix of the remaining rock band tracks. All in
> dts 5.1

[Paul Garfunkel]

Yes, but why 4.1

[Dale]

I find it makes a big difference (with my system anyways) adding a
subwoofer channel. I can control how much bottom end I get. I have 2
small passive subwoofers hooked up to a separate amplifier. I don't
care much for a centre channel for the most part.

[River161]

While a lot of fun, those files are of incredibly poor quality and
just do not provide any sort of natural sound. Yes, you can get some
interesting separation from them, but I've found that you're just as
likely to get interesting separation, and even reach places those
stems can't get to, by tweaking SPEC with a good source of the album,
and doing some creative post-processing. As a matter of fact, that
was recently done as well to excellent results.

Other than what RomanoTrax was able to do with "Abbey Road," I just
haven't heard anything with the stems that really makes me feel its
worth the time. There's not enough there for you to treat them as
true multitracks.

In the end, though, if you're having fun, then have at it. That's
what's most important! :)

[Paul Garfunkel]

Fun is what it is about, these tracks are fantastic. Even the early tracks split from mono tracks are far better then the any of the BS dts mixes made with home software. I think Giles Martin has a bit more at his disposal then any of us ever will.

 

Considering the hundres of tracks that are out in mogg crying about the sound quality is nitpicking. It what we have and in most cases it is far better the downmixing.

 

 

 

[River161]

Paul,

I know you've done these in the past, and have had fun with them.
I've not heard anything you've done, to be honest with you. To call
these "fantastic," though........really, there's very little
"fantastic" here. RB stems offer you, at most, five different tracks
to play with. They are not of good sound quality, at least from what
I've heard, whatsoever, and contain remnants of other instrumentation
that is sometimes far, far greater than isolations I could come up
with using SPEC, especially on some of these early albums that have so
much material panned hard right and left. These aren't multitracks to
say the least.

In the hands of someone with a bit of time on their hands, sure, you
can edit these down and create other tracks to utilize, but I've found
that there's really only so much you can do with them. At times, they
barely give you enough to do more than throw the vocal in the center,
the drum mono in both fronts, and whatever other instrument there is
in the rears. There's only so much stereo imaging you can add to that
to create something even somewhat interesting.

I'm going to assume that "far better that any of the DTS mixes" means
you've heard all of them? My bet is that you haven't. I can't even
say I've heard every single mix probably ever done, and I've listened
to a whole lot of stereo-to-surround in my day. Perhaps you can do
something better than the old TOUP mix, but I can tell you there's a
mix out there about a week old, done from SPEC, which was extremely
well done.

Again, I'm glad you've had fun with them, and have nothing against
others seeing what they can do with them, but let's call these things
what they are, and that's imperfect stems streamed from a video game.

[Paul Garfunkel]

That's funny since (EVERY) person I have spoke to about these file (Beatle fans all of them) have all said it is amazing, so reveling! & one person siad The greatest beatles find in decades. 

 

Now as far as them being imprefect stems from a video game. Perfection in anything does not exsist. These track were the work of Giles Martin not some nameless video game designer.

 

How about realizing some people listen to mp3's and some people stick their heads in the mud and wait for whats not coming.

 

In this case I say you are completely wrong. The Whitel Album and Abbey Road tracks are stunning and if you can't enjoy them I feel sad for you.

 

 

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[River161]

I'm the one who's played with the RB tracks, the stereo versions, and
have probably heard a good 80% of surround versions of the album(s),
but I'm the one that stuck my head in the mud. Well that's just
rich. :)

You enjoy working with them. Like I said, good for you, and best of
luck with them in the future.

[Lokkerman]

Guys
Can we just lay this to rest please? - in my eyes you've both achieved
quite a lot and you're both coming at it from opposite angles, which means
you'll never get a true consensus.
River - I did discuss this ages ago and I know some folks did have a go
(Insania springs to mind) - what about issuing a spec 16 track master so
that folks can have a go at remastering themselves? I've always thought that
this method would result in a fully controlled upmix.
Cheers
Lokks

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[River161]

> River - I did discuss this ages ago and I know some folks did have a go
> (Insania springs to mind) - what about issuing a spec 16 track master so
> that folks can have a go at remastering themselves? I've always thought that
> this method would result in a fully controlled upmix.

This might go a bit past my own technical speak, so please excuse me
if I'm off on something. Zeerround is, by far, the technical brains
behind all this.

You're looking for just a straight multi-track mixer utilizing
Plogue? That's not that difficult to do.

Zeerround has done a lot of experimenting with routing of frequencies.
In the end, we know that you just can't distinguish things within the
same frequency range (no matter how much some programs tell you they
can). Zeerround spent a lot of time playing with Sonicworx on
something like that, and it wasn't worth the huge effort in the end.
One success we've had was the bass routing mechanism within SPEC.

Even if you were looking to manipulate things more, it sounds like
you'd be looking to just place things in specific channels. Slice is
the one mode in SPEC which does that, but I rarely use that approach,
at this point, and focus a lot more on soundfield placement. A lot of
the panning possibilities within SPEC (ArcTan, ZPan) allow you to move
parts of the mix around up to a 360 degree soundfield.

I love separation, and my own holy grail is to be able to completely
get the entire vocal range out of the rears on every single mix, even
high-reverb vocal mixes, but specific speaker placement isn't what I
go for. I'm not saying I'm jumping on the Ambisonics train either,
though. :)

I'd love for you to have a larger conversation on this with Zeerround
personally. He's a pretty open guy.

[bob king]

can ya give me a link

[Lokkerman]

it looks to me like the link is in the text!!

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[cloud squeezer]

anybody got vocal tracks for strawberry fields or mystery tour?

[Who Productions]

The link works but the file is deleted. 

Yes I have the vocal tracks for them 

[Ron Mishra]

Does anyone have a link to all the mogg files?