AI a Stochastic Parrot?

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Mike DiFilippo

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Oct 23, 2025, 10:14:58 PMOct 23
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Very thoughtful article in Nautilus. Thought of Steve's comment Sunday about AI being unable to appreciate art among other failings. This from the article:

"Problems arise for living systems precisely because they need to keep on living. And they do that, Thompson explained, through “autopoiesis,” the biological process of self-creation and self-maintenance by which a cell or organism builds itself, over and over again, through its interactions with the world. Unlike a living creature, nothing matters to an AI, because the AI is not built out of the consequences of its own actions. When nothing matters, nothing is a problem. Nothing means anything. “People call large language models ‘stochastic parrots,’ ” Thompson said. “But I think it’s insulting to parrots.”"

I'm definitely using that Stochastic Parrot in my next discussion of AI...

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Angie Boyter

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Oct 24, 2025, 5:29:05 PMOct 24
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Mike,
Interesting and thought-provoking . Do you read Nautilus regularly? Otherwise, how did you find it?
Angie
PS I read it aloud to David. It was frustrating because I kept wanting to stop and think! I think he felt the same way; at least when he is listening on his device he can stop and think, but not when each of us might have different "stop and think" places.

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Mike DiFilippo

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Oct 24, 2025, 7:16:43 PMOct 24
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I subscribe to the Nautilus newsletter - it’s form Molly Glick - an excellent science writer.

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