A little picnic & body painting gig @ nudist colony

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carla winter

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Aug 23, 2009, 2:35:53 PM8/23/09
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It was an interesting experience... nice to open up the space of the
canvas from just arms & faces. A nudist social club and non-
threatening environment.
A pleasant afternoon and I especially enjoyed being able to paint
barefoot on the grass.

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Marianne Bartley

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Aug 23, 2009, 3:33:44 PM8/23/09
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As I have a few moments, I thought a would share a few more trials and tribulations as well as things I learned.  I know I have nothing the long-term pros haven't figured out already but maybe some of the newbies might benefit from my glorious wellspring of newly acquired knowledge...lol.
 
Ok...so I wanted to see how I felt about being part of fairs and festivals.  I am trying a broad range of venues to see what works best for me and my personality as well as which ones pay well enough to do again.  I chose 3 fairs this year,...one small, one medium, and one rather huge.  It was such a great experience for me.  I got in lots of practice and my style improved substantially and I can now see where my needs are greatest to improve further.  People were AWESOME!  They were supportive and complimentary and the kids were delightful.
 
Now...the downside....
I discovered that the fair had allowed a church group to do free face painting a short distance down the row from me.  I paid for this booth and understood when they said I might have to cease doing the glitter tattoos if the other tattoo lady objected since she was there last year.  I heartily agreed to do so if there was a problem but she was airbrushing and they are two different types of tattoos so we were going to try it out and see how it went.  But I was amazed when people kept coming up and asking me if I was the free tattoo place.  Kids were running by and seeing my booth and asking if they could get a face painting and their parents were telling them they already had one.  The church was doing small cheek art but that was enough for many parents to get a free painting and not feel a need to frequent my booth.  Some came anyway and had me face paint and some said I could remove the other one.  I believe I lost about 50 percent of my business because of this.  Now here is the dilemna.  I got my foot in the door at this event.  It is one that there can be a waiting list for...and I want to come back again next year.  I don't want to tick off the people who make the decisions but I feel it was terribly unfair for them to let this happen.  I paid for my booth and drove a very long way... 3 states... to get there.  I made enough to pay my expenses and a little bit more but I could have done very well.  How would you approach talking to them about this?
 
What did I learn?
Hmmmm.... lots.  I learned that people really do need visuals and I cannot stress how important photos of your work plastered everywhere makes a huge difference in whether they stop or not.  The photos market you and it just takes one photo to appeal to a person to make the difference between stopping or passing by.
 
I learned that people see something different in your artwork and you need to be sensitive to that.  I have a mask I do with a small snake on the nose of it.  It is my Cleopatra mask.  I was amazed by how many little girls immediately latched on to that one photo and wanted that mask.  I few days in, I asked if she wanted the snake a different color...assuming the snake kinda appealed to them.  She looked at me blankly and said, "What snake?"  I began asking every little girl that wanted the mask about the snake.  Not one of them even noticed the snake.  They liked the colors.  So I gave them the option of a rose or decorative ribbon instead and they all chose one of the three.  I never considered that they weren't really looking at the detail but the general look was what attracted them.  So I know ask what they like about that particular choice so I can be sure to get the glitter or the colors or the shapes right for them.  I need to see it through their eyes instead of just my own.
 
Although I am still struggling to get my prices up... that whole ego thing that makes me feel guilty charging too much because my work is flawed or too slow or....I found that having a daily special made people want to go for it.  I had a dollar off hour at the beginning of the day so people didn't wait to do it and then lose interest.  I had a discount for two children or three children so families felt I was giving them a break with multiple children. The specials were fun and I got creative day after day and it seemed to bring results.
 
I learned that even the squirmiest child is fascinated if you let them paint a spot on your nose.  The spot doesn't necessarily intrigue them... the idea that you let them do that and are you absolutely insane seems to keep them thinking long enough for me to get the tough lines done.  They stare at the mark on my nose and then look into my eyes and you can see them thinking about this crazy lady with the sponges and the brushes.  I learned that kids sit still better if they are NOT on Mom's lap most of the time.  While the mom is trying to help, the kids feel more focused on me if they aren't being held down by their mom.  I often got amazement from the parent when I got them to let go and just quietly observe because the child was so cooperative once the wrestling stopped.  It is just a thought.... some kids just don't sit still for nuttin' but it did seem to help to let them feel empowered and in control of their own body. 
 
I learned that people tip because they want to and, while I always tell them that they don't have to... I don't go overboard in trying to refuse overpayment.  There is a balance there and I think I found it.
 
I learned that when a parent and a child are arguing about which design,... there is a reason and the reason might be easily resolved.  In some cases, it is money and the parent wants a half face to save some.  If I pick up on this, then I tell the child I can make the half-face a little fancier than the full anyway and they are happy.  Sometimes the reason is that the parent is in a hurry and doesn't want to wait for the full face version.  I tell them I will try to speed it up for them and give them an estimate and they are usually ok with the time... assuming it was going to be much longer.  Sometimes the parent wants to see that design on their child and thinks the child will be happier with the finished product.  I usually tell the child that I will do whatever they decide but that since the parent is paying for it, they should agree on it first.  Sometimes the child wins and sometimes they give in to please the parent but they never seemed to be disappointed once the decision was made.
 
I learned a great deal more but this is one long email already.  I just thought I should share a few of my experiences with you before I head off to the "medium-sized" fair.  I am so proud to be part of this group and have learned so much from you all.  Lots of room to grow and improve and I am so looking forward to every minute of it.
 
Marianne
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Shay Armstrong

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Aug 23, 2009, 4:20:49 PM8/23/09
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Thanks for the feedback!  As a newbie, I’ve already run into some of these things, and it’s nice to know that it’s not just me!

Shay


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Katie Williams

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Aug 23, 2009, 4:47:18 PM8/23/09
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Hi Shay,
 
As far as talking to the venue about the free face painting, keep in mind they might not have known it was going on, or at least might not have known ahead of time.
 
I make my services available to many non-profits and churches as part of a personal ministry and many times, the groups I work with are just wanting to add some sort of a draw or enhancement to thier area. I find that they assume it's okay for them to bring in whatever sort of things they think would be fun and interesting. They don't think about creating competition or undercutting others business, they just want to add fun to what they have. That's why many times I've found they don't even talk to the festival organizers about their plans because they sort of operate in a bubble.
 
That being said, I would just kindly let the festival organizer know that because of the free face painting being offered, it created a challenge for you and ask them, "How can this be solved for next year? I really enjoyed my time here at the festival and would love to return, but I need to be able to know that it will be profitible for my efforts." Since they let you know you might have to stop glitter tattoos if the tattoo lady objected, then it seems that they are supportive of their vendors and sensitive to their profitability. I think you just need to approach it super nicely, but firmly. Start with what you loved about the festival, bring up the problem, find a resolution and then end again with a postive comment.
 
When I agree to partner with someone and offer Free face painting, I always let them know that if there are other painters there, I may not be able to paint because we wouldn't want to infringe on their business and I offer back up ideas to help them create some fun in their booth. I'm only sensitive to this because I follow all forums and have learned from watching the threads how detrimental to the industry FREE can be sometimes.
 
I love your idea about the dot on the nose. Last week I had two super squiggly kids who asked for the most complicated designs. They didn't turn out terribly well, and I think a dot on my nose might have saved the design. :  )
 
Kadybug
 
 


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Terra Fender

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Aug 23, 2009, 6:30:07 PM8/23/09
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All good comments. On the topic of letting them paint your nose...
If a child is having a hard time looking where I need them to, or is getting distracted I will stick a wiggle eye or gem on my nose. They always think I am crazy, but they cant stop looking at it!!! It keeps them centered and focused.

Niki Belvin

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Aug 24, 2009, 9:39:05 AM8/24/09
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A lot of great comments and thoughts; especially love the paint on the nose and allowing the kids to do it! Great idea! Hope I remember it next time I have a wiggle worm to paint! Thanks for sharing.
Niki  :)
 
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Niki Belvin

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Aug 24, 2009, 9:45:14 AM8/24/09
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Wiggle eyes or gems.... another great idea! You guys rock!  :)
Niki  :)
 
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Aug 25, 2009, 6:18:09 PM8/25/09
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write and share your thoughts. the information was great and I'm sure that all of us who read it will learn from your experience. This is what this forum is all about.
marcela
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