Well, here goes. I believe Virgil's Story of Troy. I also believe the
History of the British Kings by Geoffrey. Brutus and his dad were royalty
from Troy and they escaped to Rome. Where his dad was killed by Brutus in a
hunting accident. The son crossed to Greece and freed Trojan slaves and
ships and sailed to Hibernia. where their brothers were already ruling. Then
they sailed to New Troy that became London. At the same time, The Keltoi
were migrating west from the Carpathians Mountains. Now the Tribe of Dan
that sailed before the fall was already in Ireland as the Tuatha de Dannan .
So the base is established waiting for the fulfillment. This happened when
the Kumri (Keltoi) left Assyria. Then The Tribe of Dan found Ireland. The
Sons of Zarah went from Egypt to Troy to Spain then finally to New Troy. All
that was missing was the Sons of David. How would God do this?
When Babylon took over Judea, good Ole Nebbuchadensah let the king Zedekiah
live. Although the King of Judah was conquered by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC,
Zedekiah decided he would rebel. Babylon then came to crush Judea. They
captured the royal family. On a stage in Jerusalem, They killed the Sons of
Zedekiah just before they blinded him. They only made one mistake. They
failed to realize that daughters could inherit the throne. So after the
stage, Jeremiah took his nieces the King's Daughters. They also took that
Stone with them to Spain where he married one to the King of Hibernia. Then
he went to Ireland and married Tea Tephi. She married Eochaide the Heremon.
Who was crowned High King of Ireland after his marriage to Tea Tephi, the
Daughter of Zedekiah. Eochaide was a descendent of the Zarah line of Judah,
while Tea Tephi was of the Pharez line of Judah. So GOD fulfilled the
Promises of Jacob, to Judah that he would always reign over the Tribes of
Jacob. Then he fulfills the promise to David that his progenitor would reign
over the same group, Israel. God had to move those three groups thousands of
miles to fulfill these promises. The LORD had to control rulers and peasant
alike. Do you think he can work in your life.
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and Dr Gene Scott
Now the two tie together long before in Egypt. Joseph ruled in Egypt but
upon his death the sons of Judea ruled according to the blessing of Jacob.
the first born was Zarah, his sons were the ruling class .When the ruling
class fell ,as is the usual case . They fled. Secular history says that
there were two exoduses from Egypt. One by sea in which these people settled
various states including Troy. The other was Moses .So the Trojans where
Hebrew and related to the Keltoi. Who as the Behiston Rock in Assyria said .
Where called Kumri a hard k like Kuhmanni. Which became Keltoi.
Then later when the Babylonians came to Judea . They killed the king's sons
and blinded the King leaving the daughters . Not being Jewish they failed to
know the girls could inherit. Their uncle took the girls with the
Corronation Stone.
The uncle was Jeremiah. One daughter married the king of Hibernia. Then
Jeremiah went to Ireland and at Tara,about the same time as "Ollam Folla"
and married the last daughter to the high king of Ireland . On the stone of
scone[destiny] ,which now sits in the tower of London. Thats what I believe
happened .
Jim -Whose heart is drawn to Avalon in Glastonbury the site of the first
open national church
some links of interest
celticmiasma-gaelic how and why? -
htm to order some teachings on the subject the lost tribes and the house of
israel - well ALGONQUIN AND CELTS TIES - MCC BURIED CITIES AND LOSTTRIBES -
barry fell was a great linquistist he connected the american indian to
european languages-
The Naragansetts
celt.net are you a celt?
THE DAFFY NET a page on dr gene scott new link old page
viamac the book of enoch
Ephraim / House of Joseph / House of Israel -The Celts -the stone of scone
story - celtic geman ties to frankfurt -Early Scottish Kingdoms - 26 October
,Alfred the Great, King of the West Saxons, - tribes map 1 - htm to order
some teachings on the subject - William Wallace - The Stone of Destiny -
British Israel - CHILDREN OF THE MIST: THE STORY OF THE SCOTTISH
HIGHLANDERS!-A short history of Würzburg - THETROJAN ORIGINS OF EUROPEAN
ROYALTY! - lost tribes study map - BULGARIA - a brief history--THE
THRACIANS - the ten lost tribes of israel -celtic tribes map - the names of
the tribes- jack lost tribes of israel page- Celtic Animal Symbolism -
http://www.islandnet.com/~edonon/dravidi.html -The Aeneid of
Virgil -http://home.mem.net/~babech/CELTS.htm- http://www.firepowr.com/ -
THEMILESIANS http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~lcurchin/Spain/tour.html - Nothing
Ventured - TheTuatah De Dannan. - "THE CHILDREN OF LIR" -
The Arrival of the Tuatha DeDanann -
Celtic Heritage Related Links
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WHAT IS IT ABOUT THAT STONE?
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THE STONE
What is it about this rock?
Well, to begin with it's called Jacob's Pillow AKA Jacob's Ladder. Along
time ago Jacob asks god for a sign as he put his head on a pillow stone. He
saw dreams and visions and promises where made. Do you think he left that
stone,hardly. If he took it. Do you think he kept in reverence I do. Would
the children who honored those promises do the same you bet.
Now let skip some time and we find Moses in the desert assuming they took
Joseph's bones we can also assume tribal treasures where also. Now the
people where thirsty and God told Moses to strike the stone with his staff.
He did not say pick a stone and strike it. He said strike THE STONE. Moses
got mad and struck the Stone twice. This infraction was what kept him from
the Promised Land, No small stone. Anyway enough water came from the stone
for over two million people. Some stone! I'd keep it. Now in the desert when
2 million people can go straight and not curve to water that attacks
attention. So many tribes came for the stone. A treasure to a desert nomad,
who would prize it very highly. Thus the wars with the Amalicites
Well, they get back to Promised Land and eventually set the tribes up in
their lands. What do you think they used as a marker stone? Do you think
they carry this stone back to the promised land and then toss it aside. No
way they did that. What they did was use it as a coronation stone and I bet
it had many other uses. The ROCK stood for the promises God made to them and
their fathers.
So the nation grew, split, and eventually fell to two different invaders
Assyria and Babylon. The Stone was in Jerusalem until the King of Babylon
killed the sons of Zedekiah in front of the monarch. Just before he removed
his eyes.. Not being Hebrew, he failed to know daughters could inherit the
line. The two daughters of the king went with their uncle Jerimiah. Ah! Do
you think he took the stone besides the arc? My moneys on it.
So he travels to Egypt and to Hybernia. Where he marries one daughter to the
kings there, and continues to Ireland. Where about the same time a guy named
"Ollam Folla" showed up on the scene. His name was translated seer. So
Jeremiah marries the second daughter TeaTephi to the high king of Ireland.
Question do you suppose the marriage oaths where on that stone at both
weddings. Now the stone went with Fergus to Scotland. Where the British took
it to London. Knowing that the Scots would only follow a king sworn in on
that Stone. Boy! WHAT A STONE!
So this seems hard to believe. Please explain the British Monarchy Today, in
this time and age. The Bible says that the Stone shall turn and turn and
turn over again and not turn until the Messiah comes and the sun and the
moon shall stop. My money is on Charles taking the Throne and continuing
till Christ comes again
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THE 29th CHAPTER OF ACTS? ?
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Sometime in the late 1700's and before 1800, C.S.Sonnini published his copy
of Sonnini's Travels in Turkey and Greece. Interleaved was a copy of the
manuscript found in the Archives of Constantinople presented to him by the
Sultan Abdoul Achmet. He was traveling during the reign of Louis XVI, who
reigned from AD 1774 to AD 1793. He published his travels between those
two dates, 1774 and 1793. It's absurd to think that he deliberately
invented the manuscript. He was a Frenchman! What possible object could
he have in glorifying the English, their mortal enemy? What did people
know or care about the message he was going to proclaim from this chapter?
Moreover, if he had possessed the necessary knowledge to perpetrate a
literary forgery, would he, if he's that unscrupulous, have resisted the
temptation to grloify his own country in preference to England, particularly
with the heritage of early Christians in the southern valleys of France,
down to Marseille?
If you believe Leviticus 26, the promise of God linked with the curse of
God,
that once his people entered the Promised Land and disobeyed Him he would
punish them seven times; seven times three hundred sixty or twenty-five
hundred and twenty years. In 721 BC history records the fall of Israel to
the Assyrian king. By my count, if we add 2520 years of hidden truth, it
brings us to 1800. You have to adjust that year as you go from 1 BC to 1
AD, which is not two years, but one. From 721 BC to 1800 is twenty-five
undred and twenty years. The seven times punishment of lost identity was
destined to end in the year. Sometime between 1774 and 1793 Sonnini,
traveling in the Middle East, discovered the manuscript in the Archives of
Constantinople. It was published and translated into English sometime late
in 1799, available at the earliest about 1800. If this manuscript had been
allowed to circulate, the certain declaration of God through the prophet
Hosea that the lost tribes would be lost, be known as not having obtained
mercy, scattered, known not as God's people, the hiding and losing of these
people until the appointed time, would have been forfeited. Their cover
would have been blown becauyour">to visit this page
se, "he had a long time proposed to journey
thitherward, and was minded also to go from thence to Britain." Verse 1.
The above statement was taken from the introductory notes by
Dr. Gene Scott in the book "Did the
Apostle Paul Visit Britain?", by R.W. Morgan, avialable from Dolores Press.
ACTS 29:
1- And Paul, full of the blessings of Christ, and abounding in the spirit,
departed out of Rome, determining to go into Spain, for he had a long time
proposed to journey thitherward, and was minded also to go from thence to
Britain.
2- For he had heard in Phoenicia that certain of the children of Israel,
about the time of the Assyrian captivity, had escaped by sea to "The Isles
afar off" as spoken be the Prophet [Esdra], and called by the Romans -
Britain.
3- And the Lord commanded the gospel to be preached far hence to the
Gentiles [nations], and to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.
[Act 9:15, 22:21]
4- And no man hindered Paul; for he testified boldly of Jesus before the
tribunes and among the people; and he took with him cetain of the brethren
which abode with him at Rome, and they took shipping at Ostrium and having
the winds fair, were brought safely into a haven of Spain.
5- And much people were gathered together from the towns and villages, and
the hill country; for they had heard of the conversion to the Apostle, and
the many miracles which he had wrought.
6- And Paul preached mightily in Spain, and great multitudes believed and
were converted, for they perceived he was an apostle sent from God.
7- And they departed out of Spain, and Paul and his company finding a ship
in Armorica sailing unto Britain, they were therein, and passing along the
south Coast, they reached a port called Raphinus. (This is the Roman name
for
Sandwich, in Kent. In Saxon times there was, still standing in Sandwich,
and old house called the "House of the Apostles: and tradition has it that
Paul was one of the Apostles).
8- Now when it was voiced abroad that the Apostle had landed on their coast,
great multitudes of the inhabitants met him, and they treated Paul
courteously and he entered in at the east gate of their city, and lodged in
the house of an Hebrew and one of his own nation.
9- And on the morrow he came and stood upon Mount Lud (Ludgate Hill and
Broadway where St. Paul's Cathedral stands in London, England) and the
people thronged at the gate, and assembled in the Broadway, and he preached
Christ unto them, and they believed the Word and the testimony of Jesus.
10- And at even the Holy Ghost fell upon Paul, and he prophesied, saying,
Behold in the last days the God of Peace shall dwell in the cities, and the
inhabitants thereof shall be numbered (this first-ever census in England,
prophesied in this
ancient manuscript, was taken in 1801): and in the seventh numbering of the
people, their
eyes shall be opened (this "punishment" would include ignorance of their
heritage),
and the glory of their inheritance shine forth before them.(the seventh
census was taken in 1861, just as the irrefutable archeological evidence for
the
Lost Tribes was making it's way into history) The nations shall come up to
worship on the
mount the testifieth of the patience and long suffering of a servant of the
Lord.
11- And in the latter days new tidings of the Gospel shall issue forth out
of Jerusalem, and the hearts of the people shall rejoice, and behold,
fountains shall be opened, and there shall be no more plague.
12- In those days there shall be wars and rumours of war; and a king shall
rise up, and his sword, shall be for the healing of the nations, and his
peacemaking shall abide, and the glory of his kingdom a wonder among
princes.
13- And it came to pass that certain of the Druids came unto Paul privately,
and showed by their rites and ceremonies they were descended from the Jews
[Judahites] which escaped from bondage in the land of Egypt, and the apostle
believed these things, and he gave them the kiss of peace.
14- And Paul abode in his lodgings three months confirming in the faith and
preaching Christ continually.
15- And after these things Paul and his brethren departed from Raphinus and
sailed unto Atium in Gaul.
16- And Paul preached in the Roman garrison and among the people, exhorting
all men to repent and confess their sins.
17- And there came to him certain of the Belgae to enquire of him of the new
doctrine, and of the man Jesus; And Paul opened his heart unto them and
told them all things that had befallen him, howbeit, that Christ Jesus came
into the world to save sinners; and they departed pondering among themselves
upon the things which they had heard.
18- And after much preaching and toil, Paul and his fellow labourers passed
into Helvetia, and came to Mount Pontius Pilate, where he who condemned the
Lord Jesus dashed himself down headlong, and so miserably perished.
19- Immediately a torrent gushed out of the mountain and washed his body,
broken in pieces, into a lake. [ See. It was known in Palestine and Aisia
Minor that
Pilate had committed suicide all the way over in Switzerland ! ! Neither
Paul or Luke
had been there when Pontius Pulled the Plug.] Selah!
20- And Paul stretched forth his hands upon the water, and prayed unto the
Lord, saying O Lord God, give a sign unto all nations that here Pontius
Pilate which condemned thine only-begotten son, plunged down headlong into
the pit.
21- And while Paul was yet speaking, behold, there came a great earthquake,
and the face of the waters was changed, and the form of the lake like unto
the Son of Man hanging in an agony upon the Cross. (Son of Man is the common
term
given in Messianic Prophecy for the Deliverer to come. If Sonnini forged
this document,
then why not use Son of God, like any good French, New Testament
Christian?)
22- And a voice came out of heaven saying, Even Pilate hath escaped the
wrath to come for he washed his hands before the multitude at the
blood-shedding of the Lord Jesus
23- When, therefore, Paul and those that were with him saw the earthquake,
and heard the voice of the angel, they glorified God, they were mightily
strengthened in the spirit.
24- And they journeyed and came to Mount Julius where stood two pillars,
one on the right hand and one on the left hand, erected by Caesar Augustus.
25- And paul, filled with the Holy Ghost, stood up between the two pillars,
saying, Men and brethren these stones which ye see this day shall testify of
my journey hence; and verily I say, they shall remain until the outpouring
of the spirit upon all nations, neither shall the way be hindered throughout
all generations.
26- And they went forth and came unto Illtricum, intending to go by
Macedonia into Asia, and grace was found in all the churches, and they
prospered and had peace. Amen!
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Twenty-five hundred and twenty years from 721, when the capital of Samaria
fell, a manuscript is
discovered and the prophet's test is met. Peace, numbering, and in the
seventh numbering
an understanding of their inheritance is possible. If the document had been
published in
1820, it could easily been counted as a fraud; the first two censuses having
been already taken.
To clarify one point of confusion, let me acknowledge the apparent "hole" in
argument. The date of the 29th
Chapter of Acts is 61 years before the seventh census. But both events seem
to be presented as "the" enlightening event. While it's true that the
information of England's heritage was available with the publishing of the
MS, hard evidence didn't exist until Rawlinson did his work on
Behistun Rock, and the
Assyrian Tablets
were translated.
Both these events occurred well after 1820, and the information wasn't
available until much later. So we need the archeology to back up the MS. I'm
sure that there were those Bible/History scholars who came to the
conclusion, based on the Acts MS, that England was part of the House of
Israel. They were probably laughed at, as was Richard Brothers much later,
when he changed his name to a Hebrew one and demanded that the King step
down is his favor. Brothers' actions became the epithet, "British
Israelism." The devil had installed yet another road block on the Path of
God's Truth.
The 29th Chapter of Acts is but one more piece of evidence in God's
tapestries of theTribes,and Cradle of Christianity,
Britain.
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Have you noticed that all these fools cross post to every NG they
can find?
Have you noticed they all sound the same, and make no sense?
--
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Joe M
They actually believe all that stuff, Joe. I scanned the previous
article to see who or what he was quoting and sure enough, I spotted the
name Dr. Gene Scott. He's one of our American TV evangelists who sits on
a stage smoking a big cigar while screaming that the Pope is the anti
christ and telling incredible tales from a bible type book claiming the
Celts are the lost tribes and then he jumps up and scribbles numbers and
arrows on a blackboard with all kinds af ancient names to prove that
great tribulations are predicted to begin in Akron, Ohio in the year
2012. You'd have a fit laughing at this guy. Incredibly, people from all
over the world send him money. Maybe *we're* in the wrong business, Joe!
Turlough
Hey, something similar worked for Joe Smith 150 years ago.
--
James C. Woodard
"Too many laws make scofflaws of all"
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Oh for fuck's sake shut up. We don't care about your troll shit. I have had
it with your shit, so FO&D. You are so lame and stupid it hurts my arse.
> They actually believe all that stuff, Joe. I scanned the previous
> article to see who or what he was quoting and sure enough, I spotted the
> name Dr. Gene Scott. He's one of our American TV evangelists who sits on
> a stage smoking a big cigar while screaming that the Pope is the anti
> christ and telling incredible tales from a bible type book claiming the
> Celts are the lost tribes and then he jumps up and scribbles numbers and
> arrows on a blackboard with all kinds af ancient names to prove that
> great tribulations are predicted to begin in Akron, Ohio in the year
> 2012. You'd have a fit laughing at this guy. Incredibly, people from all
> over the world send him money. Maybe *we're* in the wrong business, Joe!
In one of Bertrand Russell's essays he says there are two sects, one
that believes the English are the ten lost tribes of Israel, the other,
stricter sect believes the English are only the tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh. Apparently whenever Russell would come across someone from one
of the sects, he would claim to be an adherent of the other. Much
pleasant argumentation would then ensue.
Of course that was fifty years ago. These days everything Celtic is
fashionable, with people who cannot speak any Celtic language and have
never lived in any Celtic country claiming to be Celts.
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Ashley Yakeley, Seattle WA