money over people

[Dr. Deb]

I have been reading all of your posts since 2005 and more importantly
the last most recent ones. All of you are right on. Since 2001 when SM
placed me into default after I contacted them to DOUBLE my payments
they placed me into default, sent their papers to DHHS, sold my
private loans to ?????? it took me 10 years to find out who Cha Ching
and collected all monies they get to collect without any due process.
I lost my 2 private surgical practices, home, credit, 8 year marriage
and reputation in my career and personally.
I wrote a book about my experience called "Educationally
Screwed" (registered copyright) and sent it to every imaginable
politician one can think of this last April. Do you think I got 1
reply. Also sent a copy to every "progressive radio and tv host",
again no reply.
In 2001 when this nightmare began I contacted my Attorney General,
my district Congressman, my district Senator (both on the education
and labor committies in the house), hired a lawyer you name it I've
done it as recently as April 2012.
You are all correct, money trumps justice. I fully advocate that
all graduates Do Not Even Pay the First Payment until we are heard and
justice prevails. At this point, what do you have to loose - a minimum
wage job, savings?, reputation?, home? You will loose them anyway so
let's make a 1 Trillion dollar statement! Remember, more than 15
years of people like us bumping up against the exact same road blocks.
The definition of insanity is????????????

[null null]

Pretty insane then again they guy that reported Madoff to the SEC had done so repeatedly year after year but to deaf ears. I'm just not a believer in two wrongs amounting to a right. I would not advocate not paying unless you truly have a hardship.  I gave SM the money they demanded but with that they hung themselves with the rope I gave them. Perhaps right now no one gives a?,!!  but in due time that will change as already the issue is getting more attention. I know SM knows this as well because they attempted to cover up/miss attribute the payment. They were unsuccessful. I point out that is due to my continuous payments and following the rules of the game. They are not busting my chops; I'm busting theirs;

[Dustin Logan]

One other thing that I have wondered about SL's, ever since the
whole real estate scandal. Is it possible that, like mortgages, SL's
have been combined into one, big lump, the lump then sliced into
bite-sized pieces, and resold as securities? If so, that would make
discharge virtually IMPOSSIBLE, under ANY circumstances! No
bankruptcy, no disability discharge, no protection of any kind. There
is simply no way that one loan could be pulled from the mess, to get
special attention. Could this be the case? It would explain a lot.

Dustin

[Dr. Deb]

Absolutely the SL's have been made derivatives. Wall Street is
constantly looking for more instrauments to slice and dice into
derivatives. Frontline just had a 4 hour documentry on this. That's
why I believe none of us will get the justice we are all looking for
until all of us graduates STOP ALL PAYMENTS FOR STUDENT LOANS AND
DON'T BEGIN TOO MAKE A FIRST PAYMENT! Remember the BANKS that are to
big to fail, don't care if you do. Our Fed gov. has a ton of money in
those derivative banks. Loosing 1 trillion dollars will definately
uncover what is under the rocks. Do you still feel a Moral obligation
to these BANKSTERS! Have they taken one of your families homes yet?

[Veronica]

Dr. Deb, I can answer your question, "What do you have to lose. I have
my pention garnished, I have my social security garnished.
So tell me what do you thing, they can not rob us? Please, I have been
fighting a lie for 17 years. And for 17 years they have been
TAKING money from me. I don't freely give it to them.

Like you I have contacted everyone to includ 5 lawyers who were
useless.
To this very date, I am waiting on the *Federal Office of the
Ombudsman* to get back with me.
I sent 32 pages of PROOF that I DID NOT default. Proof from from
higher ed, proof from sally lieing Mae and from ECMC. All their own
words
on black and white paer. THEIR words. And I am broke with the money
they TAKE from me.

So, what the heck are you talking about, don't pay. They will find a
way to STEAL your money. They even garish my income TAX.

You have given the wrong advice. My $8000 first and last loan from
higher ed is now $38,000. To date they have stolen from me
over $60,000. I have the proof in black and white. Big deal . But, I
will fight till my last breath this lie. I am now 63. I was so much
younger
when I started this battle. So, I promise you not paying is the
solution. Untied we stand divided we FALL!

I do not believe what the occupiers is doing is the answer either.
They are only alienating people. I believe a march on Washington would
help.
But not the evil way the occupiers do it. I will never associate
myself with that group. Be honest, George Sores is using them and they
are so foolish not to get that.

Again, money from the other side is **controlling** that group. By
other side, I mean people with a political agenda. And they do not
care one bit for us.

I am so disappointed in the direction that group is going.

[Veronica]

BTW: *Federal Office of the
Ombudsman* to get back with me. They promised 4 weeks . It is now 8
weeks.
I have one ace in the hole. I have a friend that knows Glenn Beck. I
will be able soon to give him my 32 pages of proof.
They can run, but, baby, they can not hide. They all can say they
record our conversions.
I strongly recommend you ALL record ever word they say to you. It is
very powerful to have ever one of them on record.
Take names ..dates times...and throw their words in there face.

Play their game, I promise you in the end we can win, fighting like
them. Dirty!
Veronica

[Veronica]

That should have read, NOT paying is NOT the solution. It will
accomplish nothing. Weather we pay or not pay, they still get paid.
And the tax payers pay it.
Veronica

[null null]

The ombudsman office is a sham: I've had a complaint never addressed other than email confirmation with a case number .The ombudsman office is totally contracted out to Pearson ed collections for a number of years now. As a private for profit company they are focused on profits first & all partnerships towards that. IOW there's nothing stopping them from intentionally sitting on complaints against their buddies Luke Sallie Mae. The fed oversight & accountability is nill so its no surprise...

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