Fwd: Money over People

[Debra Lynch]

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From: Debra Lynch <harley...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 00:36:59 -0700
Subject: Money over People
To: ann...@yahoo.com

I agree Veronica. That's why I believe we are 1 trillion dollars
strong - not weak. For at least the past 15 years Wall Street, the
lobbiest, politicians, courts etc. have been making money off our
backs. The very people who can afford it the least. Why? Money. By
saying our graduates are not capable of taking the job the H1 Visa
guest gets is a lie and slap in all of our faces and it shifts the
real focus off the theft they are perpetrating on the ones' who can
least afford it.
I say, after fighting these theives/crocks and liers for 10 years, and
watching others like you do the same it is time for us to do the only
thing that gets them where it will hurt the most DON'T MAKE ANY MORE
PAYMENTS OR BEGIN TO MAKE PAYMENTS ON YOUR STUDENT LOANS.
1 Trillion dollars of derivative debt not compensated for, can move
alot of people to do the half ass thing that may help us all in this
nightmare of fraud.
Dr.Deb

[Debra Lynch]

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From: Debra Lynch <harley...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 20:16:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Money over People
To: Veronica <ann...@yahoo.com>

Yes, I read your story and garnishment. That is why I say 1 trillion dollars is
stronger than the $400 garnishment from you and all the others - many
who now can only be garnished 10% of their income. As it stands now
you and I get to look forward to our social security being garnished.
However, what the congress has done to us is unconstitutional under
Amendment XIV, section 1. We have not had any due process of law or
equal protection under the law considering student loans.
So yes, they are ignoring the constitution and garnishing us, but they
can't possibly do so to all of us. So far according to the D.O.E (and
we know they lie, cheat
and steal) since the 2009 gtraduations 8.8% have already defaulted on
their SL. So if all of us - who can - not pay on their loans and folks
like us support them in the streets ie...occupy then someone is going
to have to address this crime with the seriousness it should have.
Pretty much this is where the USA is right now, standing at the
precipice; of, for and by the people or fascism.



On 5/3/12, Veronica <ann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Debra, did u read, I am not making payments, they are taking close to $400 a
> month from me. Robing my granddaughters of things I could be doing for them.
>
> Do, you know how I cried when I could not co-sign a loan from a very
> responsible granddaughter who needed a cry..for school and work. The bank
> said I had too much debt. Really. hmmm
> My credit score is 699, I have always paid my bills, working even now that I
> am retired.
> But, they take and take and take.
>
> So what are you talking about don't pay. Debra they take you can not not
> pay. (double negative there)
> Veronica

[Debra Lynch]

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From: Debra Lynch <harley...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 20:24:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Money over People
To: Veronica <ann...@yahoo.com>

P. S, with their "penalty" that no institution can hire someone who
has "defaulted" on their student loans who recieve federal funds of
any kind I can not do what I went to school and training for for 20
years - being the surgeon I am. As an undergraduate I earned my high
school teaching license - can't do that either. My credit score is
near yours and I can't get credit either. I've cried many, many
evenings. But no more. It's time to take back our democracy for not
just us but more importantly for the kids in school now and the
generations to come. I realize my best days as a surgeon are gone, but
not as a moral human being.
Try not to lose heart

[Debra Lynch]

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From: Debra Lynch <harley...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:18:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Money over People
To: Veronica <ann...@yahoo.com>

The CFPB gave me an ombudsman from the D.O.E. Who did nothing
different than the lackies in the D.O.E back in 2001 when I was
looking for help. Again, who owns the D.O.E and the CFPB? Wall
Street! As I said in my book, the DOE/DHHS and the DOJ are all
stocked with lobbiest lackies working for and by Wall Street.
THEY WON'T LAUGH WHEN THEY ALL LOSE 1 TRILLION DOLLARS, THEY WILL BE
CRYING!!!!!!!

On 5/4/12, Veronica <ann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> And that is another issue. They say 10% . Well they are taking 15% from me.
> And No one cares. It makes you sick what they get away with.
> I keep fighting and i feel their laughter. Sad.
> And about the Federal Office of the Ombudsman,U.S. Department of
> Education. If you do your homework, u will find that the agents were once
> employed by, ECMC oand/or Sallie Mae.
> Sick if you ask me. I nail the supervise on that one. He almost choked on
> the phone when I asked him what I knew already. He was shocked that I would
> call him on that. But, he did to admit it.
> At first he was snotty, said, that is not relevant. I said yes it is. Now
> answer my question. He did and did admit that was a FACT!. How crazy is
> that. I say conflict of interest.
>
>
>
>
>

[Veronica]

Dr Deb, first I want to say it breaks my heart that u can not use the
degree so earned. I know your worked hard to
complete a doc degree. Harder than the losers we have in Washington.
Useless, self serving politicians.
I am angry and sadden that u can not help the people you trained to
help. That is a sin beyond words.
Someone should be held accountable for all they do to students.

Now, back to NOT paying. If students don't pay on loans, here is what
happens:
They get paid, tax payers pay back your loan. Sallie mae will be paid
on your defaulted loan by Higher ed.

Then they come after us. Like they now for me. THey take 15% of any
thing I earn.
Not paying, interest on your loan goes to 30%. So who wins? All the so
called non profit collecting agents.
Collecting agents that are friends of politicians and so on.

I think not paying only hurts students and tax payers. We need a plan
to expose these rats. (sorry rats, you don't deserve to
have your good name tagged on to scums of the earth)

The politicians (Democrats and Republicans have played this game for
years and we have fell for it. The game is call: distract and attack.
They keep US fighting with each other so we don't see the damage they
are BOTH doing.

Until we ALL united and expose them and follow the money, we will stay
where we are. If you always do what you always did, u will always get
what you have.
We spin our wheels because we all go over on separate battle fields. I
am a veteran, and see the battle field differently.
Until we pull are forces together. In a none violent respectable way,
we will never be heard.

The occupiers are being used by the very people they appose. They are
beginning use by the very people making money off them. How sick is
that.
If they would only stop and follow the money funding their cause, they
will see themselves as the fools. The occupiers have behaved in a way
that noone
is taking them serious. Their reputation is so tainted it is such a
waste of their time to get anything done. Even the people funding they
are in hiding.
I believe their hearts were in the right place. But, it all went wrong
with the mess they caused.

So, Doctor Deb, I don't see not paying hurting those we want to hold
accountable. They will always make their money off us. We need a
united plan.

I see it this way. Many of us have families, friends. If we gather
respectfully with our family and shoe the real side of the damage and
how we are slaves to
those making money off our children's and grandchildren. Real
stories.

One way: youtube, tell our story. See, how we really are paying and
paying more than they ever knew.
2. Get real news media time on stations that care. Obama has the bias
media in his parket. They will not show the real story if it makes him
look bad.
So, we need to be wer we can show our real lives and how inslaved we
are to our student loans. Ans show step by step who is making the
money on our backs.

Show real families. Show your story and so many that are NOT allowed
to use the eduction you all worked so hard to get.
She were are seen like the dead beat dads. Loosers, that live with mom
and dad and want something for nothing. They need to see families and
your story.

The American people, have a heart, those making money off us, have NO
HEART. We get the REAL picture out. Then we can be heard.

I watched an occupier on TV last night (well, I have no cable, can not
afford it, watched on my computer) He made all of his occupier friends
look like fools. It was so sad.
He wanted to battle instead of tell a story of real people hurting.

We need real stories. I am 63 years old, a mom, a Nana and a Vietnam
veterans era. I have worked hard all of my life, paid my bills and
robbed every month for years and years
because of a LIE. I never defaulted. I have documents. A box that
almost take 2 people to carry, filled with the truth.

I am trying to get with Glenn Beck to have a group of us tell our real
story. People like u and me. People that are like the people we will
talk with.
A friend of mine knows Glenn. We can d the audiences thing he does.
Now this will anger some in here. But, we can not have people lie the
occupiers they are out of control.
That have acted in away that people can not relate to. I am still for
obeying the laws and treating ALL people with respect. I would never
dream of treating our police offices with such disrespect has I have
seen the do. They have families and don't need what the occupie4s did
in our cities. The filt and mess they did was so shameful.

We need people to see us just like them, hard working people, with
families, respectable caring people. If anyone wants to send me there
story. That I can put together to present to Glenn Beck, please send
your info to me.
Tell me your story and give me contact info. I will do everything in
my power to have our story heard. Even if u have no children or
grandchildren.But, have a story that shows you have been enslaved by
your student loan. How you have paid and paid and the amount is
doubled and tripped.I believe ther are more peope like myself that pay
and pay and get no wear.

See the American people only know about those who don't pay. (for what
every reason and I am not downing you) it is just that we need our
brothers and sisters to see the real us.
They need to see themselves in us. Those that struggle and pay. I
worked for over 20 years..earned what I am being robbed of. I know
their are more like me.

I want to hear from students that went to school and now can not use
their education because they have student loans. People like me that
can not us my Certificate of Eligibility for Home refin or to buy a
home. Because on loan papers from banks it asked, do you have a
government defaulted loan. YES, good bye.

If you send your story to me, in the subject put >student loan.

Done ranting. Veronica

[Dustin Logan]

You know, I just thought of another aspect, to this business of
throwing folks into default, and similar games. How many of you have
heard about the big new trend in government and business, called
"Gotcha!" It's the practice of making obscure laws, policies, and
regulations, and creating mazes of bureaucracy, simply to catch people
off-guard, and hit them with onerous extra fees, penalties, and fines.
It's the great new "business model" of the 21st Century!

How many have found some unexpected banking fee deducted from
their checking account? Or, have gotten an unexpected parking ticket
for violating some obscure or unknown ordinance? Or, have found
several dollars tacked onto a utility bill, because the mail was slow,
or the check was not sent quite promptly enough? Governments and
corporations actually have EXPECTED incomes from these
sources---incomes that actually appear as profit items, on their
projected budget sheets!

Dustin