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Cf: Icon Index Symbol • 20
http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2021/01/11/icon-index-symbol-20/
Questions Concerning Certain Faculties Claimed For Signs
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Re: FB | Semiotics, Books, Links, News • Jon Awbrey • Dalibor Lošťák
https://www.facebook.com/groups/373930009449106/permalink/1856066764568749
JA:
Icon, Index, Symbol and all other classifications are
ideal types abstracted from concrete signs and there
are no pure types in actual existence. However, it is
a consequence of triadic relation irreducibility that
symbols are in a genuine sense the generic type while
icons and indices are specializations or so-called
“degenerate” cases.
DL:
I think the first sentence answers the question brilliantly. However,
I disagree with your assertion about the “degenerate cases”. It is my
understanding that iconicity is the aspect of a sign that represents
its Firstness, which is incapable of degeneracy. This also leads me
to the notion that fully degenerate Thirdness, as applied to a Symbol,
is not an Icon. I would be very interested to read your thoughts on this.
Dear Dalibor,
The way I see Categories applying to Peirce's logic and semiotics
may be gleaned from the following Survey page.
• Survey of Precursors Of Category Theory
https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2020/09/20/survey-of-precursors-of-category-theory-2/
The series beginning with the following post might be a good place to start.
• Peirce's Categories • 1
https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2015/10/30/peirces-categories-1/
Regards,
Jon