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1. EPA-SWMM 4 Manual (3)
2. PCSWMM - Storage Unit (2)

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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:43:53 -0400
From: Michael Walters <mwal...@ADAENGINEERING.COM>
Subject: Re: EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

I was wondering about that because when I looked at my 1989 (V4.03) hard copy version of the manual, the pages are different but the content seems similar, and nothing appears to be missing on your page 95 (around Pages 100 to 103 in my version.


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Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

Thanks, Mitch,

You have certainly cleared up the mystery of the missing page and your
website is a treasure trove of good SWMM modeling information.

However, I am now wondering about the original source of the PDF copies of
the SWMM 4 manuals. My UF TREEO Center manuals for the 4.1, 4,2 and 4,3
versions of SWMM 4 have the Runoff chapter starting on page 59. The
portion of the manual around is also organized very differently in the
paper copies of the SWMM 4 manual. Figure 4-16 is on page 103 of the
paper manual but it is page 45 in the Runoff chapter which would be page
97 if you started at page 52 as in the PDF file.

Best and Kind Regards,
Robert Edgar Dickinson
MWH Soft Inc.

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Page 95 is also blank in the PDF of the manuals available from
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/cdmuswmm.htm (SWMMManualSec4A.pdf in
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/swmm4.zip). However, the text flows properly
from page 94 to 97, where the skew factor equation is presented. P. 96
has a full-page figure.

Mitch Heineman, P.E., BCEE
Collector Systems and Surface Water Subdiscipline Leader
CDM
Cambridge MA


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Cheng, Jeff Y
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Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

I am not sure the files are NTIS PDF files, I download the manual from
State University of Oregon web site, but the page 95 is blank, it may
discuss the basin skew factor.
thanks
Jeff
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Robert E Dickinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

Hi,

Are you describing the NTIS PDF file of the EPA SWMM 4 manual?

Kind Regards,
RED, MWHSoft

On 5/6/08, Cheng, Jeff Y <Jeff....@amec.com> wrote:
>
> Is any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual page 95? I got most of Manual
> download on PDF but page 95 is missing.
> thanks
>
>
> Jeffrey Y.C Cheng PE
>
> Senior Water Resource Engineer
>
> AMEC Earth & Environmental, Inc.
>
> 355 South Teller Street, Suite 300
>
> Lakewood, CO 80226
>
> Jeff....@AMEC.com
>
> Direct Dial: 303-742-5326
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> Office Tel: 303-935-6505 ex 126
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> Fax: 303-935-6575
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:23:22 -0500
From: Reinhard Sprenger <rspr...@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

In case it helps;

I have a set of 17 pdf's in approx 50 page increments. Page 95 has Figure
4-11and is page 4-37 of the original. The filenames all start with 544 as in
544_1 to 50.pdf, etc. Under properties the author is shown as jamiesonj. I
don't recall the source of these files.

Reinhard Sprenger

-----Original Message-----
From: SWMM-USERS [mailto:SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca] On Behalf Of
Robert E Dickinson
Sent: May-07-08 9:49 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

Thanks, Mitch,

You have certainly cleared up the mystery of the missing page and your
website is a treasure trove of good SWMM modeling information.

However, I am now wondering about the original source of the PDF copies of
the SWMM 4 manuals. My UF TREEO Center manuals for the 4.1, 4,2 and 4,3
versions of SWMM 4 have the Runoff chapter starting on page 59. The
portion of the manual around is also organized very differently in the
paper copies of the SWMM 4 manual. Figure 4-16 is on page 103 of the
paper manual but it is page 45 in the Runoff chapter which would be page
97 if you started at page 52 as in the PDF file.

Best and Kind Regards,
Robert Edgar Dickinson
MWH Soft Inc.

"Heineman, Mitchell" <Heine...@CDM.COM>
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Re: [SWMM-USERS] EPA-SWMM 4 Manual


Page 95 is also blank in the PDF of the manuals available from
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/cdmuswmm.htm (SWMMManualSec4A.pdf in
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/swmm4.zip). However, the text flows properly
from page 94 to 97, where the skew factor equation is presented. P. 96
has a full-page figure.

Mitch Heineman, P.E., BCEE
Collector Systems and Surface Water Subdiscipline Leader
CDM
Cambridge MA


-----Original Message-----
From: SWMM-USERS [mailto:SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca] On Behalf Of
Cheng, Jeff Y
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:54 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

I am not sure the files are NTIS PDF files, I download the manual from
State University of Oregon web site, but the page 95 is blank, it may
discuss the basin skew factor.
thanks
Jeff
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From: SWMM-USERS [mailto:SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca] On Behalf Of
Robert E Dickinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:35 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

Hi,

Are you describing the NTIS PDF file of the EPA SWMM 4 manual?

Kind Regards,
RED, MWHSoft

On 5/6/08, Cheng, Jeff Y <Jeff....@amec.com> wrote:
>
> Is any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual page 95? I got most of Manual
> download on PDF but page 95 is missing.
> thanks
>
>
> Jeffrey Y.C Cheng PE
>
> Senior Water Resource Engineer
>
> AMEC Earth & Environmental, Inc.
>
> 355 South Teller Street, Suite 300
>
> Lakewood, CO 80226
>
> Jeff....@AMEC.com
>
> Direct Dial: 303-742-5326
>
> Office Tel: 303-935-6505 ex 126
>
> Fax: 303-935-6575
>
>
>
>
> The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the
> individual or entity to whom it is addressed.
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:20:57 -0400
From: Steve Schreiner <SSchr...@VERSAR.COM>
Subject: Re: EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

These 17 pdf's were created in 2 MB increments in 2002 when we had a =
number of paper documents scanned and made available. The SWMM4 manuals =
are still on our web page at http://esm.versar.com/pprp/bibliography/sec14.=
htm (scroll down to items 12 and 13). 544 is an arbitrary document =
number used in our library catalog at the time.
=20
Steve Schreiner
Versar, Inc.
=20

>>> Reinhard Sprenger <rspr...@SHAW.CA> 5/8/2008 10:23 AM >>>
In case it helps;

I have a set of 17 pdf's in approx 50 page increments. Page 95 has Figure
4-11and is page 4-37 of the original. The filenames all start with 544 as =
in
544_1 to 50.pdf, etc. Under properties the author is shown as jamiesonj. I
don't recall the source of these files.

Reinhard Sprenger

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Robert E Dickinson
Sent: May-07-08 9:49 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca=20
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] EPA-SWMM 4 Manual

Thanks, Mitch,

You have certainly cleared up the mystery of the missing page and your
website is a treasure trove of good SWMM modeling information.

However, I am now wondering about the original source of the PDF copies of
the SWMM 4 manuals. My UF TREEO Center manuals for the 4.1, 4,2 and 4,3
versions of SWMM 4 have the Runoff chapter starting on page 59. The
portion of the manual around is also organized very differently in the
paper copies of the SWMM 4 manual. Figure 4-16 is on page 103 of the
paper manual but it is page 45 in the Runoff chapter which would be page
97 if you started at page 52 as in the PDF file.

Best and Kind Regards,
Robert Edgar Dickinson
MWH Soft Inc.

"Heineman, Mitchell" <Heine...@CDM.COM>
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Page 95 is also blank in the PDF of the manuals available from
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/cdmuswmm.htm (SWMMManualSec4A.pdf in
www.dynsystem.com/netstorm/swmm4.zip). However, the text flows properly
from page 94 to 97, where the skew factor equation is presented. P. 96
has a full-page figure.

Mitch Heineman, P.E., BCEE
Collector Systems and Surface Water Subdiscipline Leader
CDM
Cambridge MA


-----Original Message-----
From: SWMM-USERS [mailto:SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca] On Behalf Of
Cheng, Jeff Y
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:54 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca=20
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

I am not sure the files are NTIS PDF files, I download the manual from
State University of Oregon web site, but the page 95 is blank, it may
discuss the basin skew factor.
thanks
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: SWMM-USERS [mailto:SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca] On Behalf Of
Robert E Dickinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:35 PM
To: SWMM-...@listserv.uoguelph.ca=20
Subject: Re: [SWMM-USERS] IS any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual Page 95

Hi,

Are you describing the NTIS PDF file of the EPA SWMM 4 manual?

Kind Regards,
RED, MWHSoft

On 5/6/08, Cheng, Jeff Y <Jeff....@amec.com> wrote:
>
> Is any one have EPA-SWMM 4 Manual page 95? I got most of Manual
> download on PDF but page 95 is missing.
> thanks
>
>
> Jeffrey Y.C Cheng PE
>
> Senior Water Resource Engineer
>
> AMEC Earth & Environmental, Inc.
>
> 355 South Teller Street, Suite 300
>
> Lakewood, CO 80226
>
> Jeff....@AMEC.com=20
>
> Direct Dial: 303-742-5326
>
> Office Tel: 303-935-6505 ex 126
>
> Fax: 303-935-6575
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:13:42 -0300
From: Stephanie Piers de Raveschoot <stephan...@EPFL.CH>
Subject: PCSWMM - Storage Unit

Dear Users,

In my stormwater drainage system, I have a storage unit which is part of
the drainage system, meant to help reduce the peak flows and the risks of
flooding. Is it possible to link the conduits from one end of my detention
basin to the other, to make it a complete part of my drainage system,
in-between two conduits ?

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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:43:53 -0400
From: Robert E Dickinson <Robert.E....@US.MWHGLOBAL.COM>
Subject: Re: PCSWMM - Storage Unit

Stephanie,

You can have a link coming out of the storage unit connecting to a node
upstream of the storage unit if you want to simulate recirculation of the
flow out of the storage unit. You cannot connect the storage unit to the
storage unit.

I hope this helps you with your question.

Best and Kind Regards,
Robert Edgar Dickinson
MWH Soft Inc.

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Dear Users,

In my stormwater drainage system, I have a storage unit which is part
of
the drainage system, meant to help reduce the peak flows and the risks of
flooding. Is it possible to link the conduits from one end of my detention
basin to the other, to make it a complete part of my drainage system,
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