Story recommendations?

[Shannon]

Why don't we use this group to suggest good stories to one another?
I'll start by recommending "Little Susie" (http://www.asstr.org/files/
Collections/tyger/stories/lilsusie.txt), one of my all time
favorites.

-shannon-

[Rob Hood]

Most of the stories in The Young Girl Repository are pretty darn good.  Sadly I don't think the collection has been updated for years.  But if you haven't read the TYGER stories, I'd highly recommend them to you!

[Argon]

Why don't you write your recommendations up and post them as favorites
in your author account? They can be just like short reviews without
the meaningless scores. I use those quite often to pick stories that
would not show on my radar normally .
Here are mine:
http://storiesonline.net/library/authorFavorites.php?id=2583

[The Black Knight]

Argon allegedly wrote:
> They can be just like short reviews without the meaningless scores.

I don't know about all reviewers, but I know I ( and likely Andrew)
try very much to make the scores attached to reviews meaningful.
Perhaps some might not understand the meaning... although I expect in
either of our cases (mine or Andrew's) that the meanings can be
deduced from evaluating scores given to various stories we've
reviewed. (Okay, certainly the 'appeal' score is subjective as all
hell... but even there, I try to be consistent... and any reader who
either shares my preferences - or disagrees completely with them -
will be able to use those scores to predict how enjoyable the story
will be.)

In other words, I find that characterization of reviews rather
insulting.

[Andrew Johns]

I have to agree that Agron's view of reviewers is insulting.

Personally, I try to justify why I scored each value the way I did, so
readers can tell WHY I scored that way. If I just throw a 10 out
there for stroke, and don't say why, then it won't help anyone. Same
for plot. And giving a low score would be just as worthless. I'm a
big critic of such things as not knowing where the hymen is, and I
score down for such mistakes. If a reader could care less, they at
least know that I docked it for that very reason, so maybe they'll get
more enjoyment from the story than I did.

If I wanted to give meaningless scores, I'd score the way another
reviewer does, who hands out almost all 10's. He/she is like Mikey.
They like everything.

[Argon]

Sorry Guys, let me clarify. The 'meaningless' was meant to say that
one reviewer's 8 or 7 may indicate a far better story than another
reviewer's 10. Of course, we can look into a reviewer's track record
and see how that particular story fares in the context of all his
reviews, but come on! A review should be meant to point the readers on
the site towards content they may find enjoyable, and it should be a
semi-professional opinion which the author can use to improve his
writing. The text part of the review can fulfill both requirements
just fine. We get to see the scores from the readers already. What is
the point of having yet another score?
Andrew, I have lauded your fair and meaningful review once, if you
remember. You also complained that writers give you a hard time when
you score them low, and I am sure that many of the reviewers get the
same. Why not do away with those scores and just leave the part that
really helps?
For the purpose of this thread, I really find the authors' favorites a
very helpful tool to point me towards stories I may have missed. Many
of the reviews do the same for me, and in the last weeks, they have
become more diverse, with new reviewers added.
So: no offence or insult meant. I just do not find the reviewers'
scores helpful beyond what the readers' scores already give me (what
little that is).
BTW: I was reviewed twice, and both reviews were friendly and fair. I
have no axe to grind as an author.

[Punky Girl]

My three cents (yes, my opinion is worth a penny more than yours! :P):

I used to review stories on my ASSTR site and I used a grading system like, A+, A, A-, etc. I also had a rule: I never posted a review of anything I would give less than a C. I wanted my reviews to be a way for readers to find good stuff, not a way to bash bad stories. Shrugs.

I find reviews helpful as a reader, but finding reviewers I agree with is about as hard for me as finding good authors is! One from SOL.net was reccommended to me by a fan of one of my stories recently and the first thing I read from his list was a story he'd given all tens (you know, so I could see what he thought was genius or whatever). I would have given the story all 5's so I never used his suggestions again. Shrugs.

Oh, and on that note? As a reader on SOL.net I never give stories I read there anything less than all 10's. Even if it's not the greatest, I know as an author there that some people hand out all 1's just because... well, I don't know why. So if I like a story enough to read it through to the end on SOL.net I give out all 10's to cancel those all 1's guys out. It's the good Samaritan in me! :)

-shannon-

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Every time I see your face
I think of things unpure unchaste
I want to fuck you like a dog
I'll take you home and make you like it
---Liz Phair, "Flower"
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[Argon]

Time was short this morning, so I would like to elaborate on the
meaning of 'meaningless'.
From a review, the reader wants to glean information on whether a
story might be suitable for him/her. Let us take the ideal case of a
detailed review where the reviewer gives a differentiated opinion.
Stroke factor: 3. To some, this means that sex does not play a major
role in the tale. To others, it means the descriptions of sex acts
were not arousing, i.e. poorly done. Now, if I read in the text part
that 'although the sex scenes were far in between, I found them
tasteful and stimulating', this is high praise, although it may still
mean a '3' for stroke in the reviewer's value system. Check one for
text.
Technical score: 7. That sounds simple, doesn't it? It isn't, though.
For some, that score simply reflects the number of errors (spelling,
syntax, punctuation, formatting) per 1000 words of text. However, the
technical quality also reflects the flow of the dialogue, the quality
of the language. That is much harder to assign a score to. Then again,
a text saying that 'while the text was technically flawless, the
dialogue appeared wooden and unreal' will give me a better idea what
to expect. Or: 'The frequent spelling errors and mix up of homophones
took the enjoyment out of the reading. I recommend a thorough proof-
reading.' This does a far better job of warning me off than a
numerical score. Point two for text.
Plot: 6. This can indicate any of the following: i) a rehash of a
popular plot, i.e. not innovative; ii) screw-ups in the time line;
iii) unbelievable story turns; iv) unnecessary side plots; v) polar
character depiction (good vs. evil), stereotyping (scheming
cheerleader, dumb jock, etc.). How much better can you tell this in
writing! 'While the plot is well executed, the story line per se is an
old acquaintance.'; 'The authors frequently lost track of his time
line.'; 'The ending appeared forced and the turn of events hard to
believe.'; 'The story could be trimmed of some side plots (examples)
without losing anything.'; 'The characters were stereotyped badly; a
more differentiated description would have benefited the credibility.'
With such opinion given, I (as a reader) do not need a numerical
score. I may even go for the old and tried nerd-gets-the-cheerleader
type of story, even if the plot is rated a '7', or I may like
stereotyping (well, I don't). Chalk up another one for text.
Appeal: 8. Okay, as stated already, this is the least meaningful
score. You and I may love or hate the same story, but for different
reasons. I may hate the worn-out plot, while you may find sloppy
editing repulsive. We may both love 'Shasta's Tale', but while some
people love the master/slave genre, I may appreciate the unbreakable
spirit of the heroine. Speaking out why you like the story will always
be better than giving a bland numerical score.
This being said, I know and appreciate detailed reviews. Most reviews
contain all that information and opinion in text form. I just cannot
see the value of the scores because they do not give meaningful
information. So, to me, and I may indeed be the only one, they are
meaningless.
Peace!

[Deadly Ernest]

G'day shannon,

Please hurry over and read all my stories and Caz's stories too,
pretty please.

ernest

[just-this-guy]

BK and AJ - I do think you let your dander get up and read more into
Argon's comments than was there.

Down dander! Back down!

*****

Scores are like the great big gravity well of SOL. We try to deny
them and avoid them, but every topic eventually turns to them.

[just-this-guy]

BK send me some clarifications so I retract much of what I posted
(except the part about the five hot girls in my bed)...

...and once again I'm left talking to myself.

(at least "we" get along)

[Andrew Johns]

Scores can be a gravity well, yes. Especially when given by people
that can hide behind a simple template.

As a reviewer, we stick our necks and our nickname out there. If we
do enough reviews, there is some continuity that anyone that actually
follows reviews can use to understand what the scores mean. I realize
that's a significant stretch for most SOL readers, but it IS there.

My way of looking at reviews is that I'm not here to be a cheerleader,
and I'm not here to beat down stories/authors. My role is to be as
objective as I can, while making sure that I try to explain why I
scored a story the way I did, and pointing out if a particular topic
is a fetish of mine or not. I try to be constructive, and I often
have some nice emails with authors that ask for further explanation on
comments I've made. I've also gotten hate mail from an author or two.

Like authors, I'll take the negativity, because I may have been
critical of a work the author is quite proud of. That's the lumps you
take, just as the authors suffer from people (often anon) trashing
their efforts. I hope they take my reviews as constructive, but if
they want to flame me, so be it.

BK and I have a relatively similar approach, though our fetish/squick
areas differ some, and our style differs as to how we present our
reviews.

For my scoring, it looks like this:

For stroke, it is all about where the scenes well written, and were
they hot by my standards. This is entirely subjective, since it's
hard to be objective about a sex scene. I do heavily penalize for
authors not knowing human sexual organs, such as where the hymen is
located. I'm still up in the air on the darn "cock passing through
the cervix" one, because it doesn't based on the medical literature
I've read. I haven't asked my wife's OB/GYN that one, yet. One say
soon, though! lol

For plot, it is a combination of characters, story line, and how well
the author knit it all together. Stories that have only enough plot
to get from one sex scene to another don't earn as high a score as
ones that really weave a tight story that happens to have sex scenes
that fit the tale. This is something I can be more objective to, but
people differ on what makes a good plot.

For technical, I'm not perfect, and certainly will never be an English
major. But I can tell when verb tenses go haywire, I know the rules
of punctuation, and I can spell fairly well. And if there are only or
two small errors in a big story, I'll still give it a 10. These are
amateur authors with amateur editors at best. I'm not going to
devalue a story based on a small typo. Heck, even the extremely well
written Al Steiner had a spelling error in a story that jumped right
off my monitor at me. Of course, it happened to be a prescription
drug name, and I worked in a pharmacy for more than a decade, so it
was obvious to me, but I bet only 0.1% or less of folks would have
noticed it.

Having been a former medic and pharmacy technician with a good medical/
anatomy/medication education, I'm a proponent of getting the facts
right. If an author writes a fire/accident/hospital scene and has no
knowledge of what procedures are involved in that type of thing, I
will dock it some on technical. Michael Crichton's "Timeline" (the
book, not the dreadful movie) wouldn't have been nearly as good if the
science the author described didn't feel authentic. Again, these are
amateur authors who don't have experts they can consult, but if you
are going to write something, put some effort into what you are
describing.

I knocked Alexis Seifert's incredible "Monsters" for a typo and a
medical problem. My review gives away way too much of the plot, in
hindsight, but this story had such an impact on me, it was a very spur
of the moment review. Much like my review, I won't spell out that
medical error out here, but it's one of the more common medication
errors that even TV shows use, and with good reason. Knowing that a
certain medication won't have the results the character thinks it will
means some real life suicide attempts fail due to ignorance. That's a
good thing. If folks want to know what that error is, they can email
me.

[Switch Blayde]

> I'm still up in the air on the darn "cock passing through the cervix" one
 

I have no idea if this is possible, but I remember in the movie "A Time to Kill" the 10-year-old daughter who got raped could no longer have children because of internal damage (I guess the men were too large for her small body). So maybe it's possible.

> Stories that have only enough plot to get from one sex scene to another don't earn
> as high a score as ones that really weave a tight story that happens to have
> sex scenes that fit the tale.
 

Shouldn't you take into account how the author categorized the story, that is, "much sex," "some sex," and "minimal sex"? Just as you look at "stroke stories" differently, the author is making a statement by categorizing the story. To me, "much sex" means more emphasis on sex scenes and "some sex" is more emphasis on plot. If the "plot to get from one sex scene to another" is well done in a "much sex" story, shouldn't that account for good plot (within the context of it being a "much sex" story)?
 
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:00:34 -0800
> Subject: Re: Story recommendations?
> From: ajrevi...@gmail.com
> To: storie...@googlegroups.com

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[The Black Knight]

Andrew Johns allegedly wrote:
>I often have some nice emails with authors that ask for further
> explanation on comments I've made.  

What amazes me sometimes, is when I get email from an author whose
story I was heavily critical of, and they thank me. It's happened more
than once, but it's so strange when that happens.

> I've also gotten hate mail from an author or two.

Yeah, same here. Usually over ambivalent reviews, too.

> BK and I have a relatively similar approach

This is intentional on my part, to the extent that it's true.

> though our fetish/squick areas differ some, and our style differs as to
> how we present our reviews.

Well, the differences are also intentional.

> For my scoring, it looks like this:

For stroke, I don't even bother unless I think the story qualifies as
a stroke story, usually. Then, it's mainly a measure of the amount of
stroke content, which can be influenced up or down a point or two
based on how well the stroke is written and/or how hot it is.

For plot, I look at originality and character development, mainly. A
simple concept pulled off well will outscore a hopelessly complex
byzantine plot that simply flops... although if I ever find an
incredibly well written byzantine masterpiece, I'd probably give it a
10, even if it wasn't entirely original.

For technical, I'm slightly less forgiving. If one (possibly two)
errors jump out at me in a long story, or I can't spot any definite
errors in a short story, I give a 10. Otherwise, I try to mark
technical like I was grading a paper. Anything that gets less than a
5, though, has to be truly atrocious to drop much further. Basically,
I give stories technical ratings so readers will (hopefully) figure
out how they should be scoring stories for technical... because I'd
like to know before choosing to read a story how well written/proofed/
edited it is. Really, I look at a 10 in technical being publishing
quality. (Yes, I've found errors in dead-tree works, but on a error-
per-word-count scale, it would require only one or two errors in most
stories on SOL. I'll give the huge stories a little more leeway,
though.)

[Andrew Johns]

>Shouldn't you take into account how the author categorized the story, that is, "much sex," "some sex," and "minimal sex"? Just as you look at "stroke stories" differently, the author is making a statement by categorizing the story. To >me, "much sex" means more emphasis on sex scenes and "some sex" is more emphasis on plot. If the "plot to get from one sex scene to another" is well done in a "much sex" story, shouldn't that account for good plot (within the >context of it being a "much sex" story)?

Well, just because a story says it is a stroke story or has "much
sex", doesn't mean I should not expect a plot that ties it all
together. A weak plot that gets so out of hand that I can't hold onto
a reasonable suspension of disbelief doesn't warrant a good score.

I've read many a short story (single post or 1-5 chapters) that were
tightly wrapped together, and still had frequent hot sex in them.
I've read epic tales where the sex was constant, and the plot so
watered down as to be worthless. Just because there is a certain sex
volume, doesn't mean that the plot has to be affected. El Sol's in-
hiatus AMR is a story with a plot, that happens to have a lot of hot,
intense sexual scenes in it. Not in every chapter maybe, but in
most. And the plot was tight, until the author wrote himself into a
place he didn't want to be and had to start a re-write. And if you
look at Al Steiner's "Nervepath", you have a short story that has some
great sex in it.

I do take the type of story into consideration. I often comment that
a story was obviously written as a stroke piece, and that the plot was
sufficient to move the character from one scene/partner to the next,
and not much more. As such, I've explained why I gave the score I
did. I try to justify the way I scored something, so readers get more
than a number, while still having that number.

[bradle...@googlemail.com]

Shannon


I agree with you although I have no story to offer as a favourite.

Wouldn't it be good if, instead of a series of self-opinionated and
off-topic posts of unutterable dullness and technical detail, this
forum was used to exchange story recommendations?

Then someone who wasn't already excited by story codes, story votes
and other trivia might visit this newsgroup, stay for more than ten
minutes and find a story that might interest them.

So has anyone any story to recommend (other than their own, of course,
and hopefully not one which has already gained massive votes and is
virtually identical to at least one other story that has gained
massive votes)?

Wouldn't that be a service of use not only to Shannon? And possibly to
others who might be less polite than him (or her) and admit to a
weariness at seeing yet another thread hi-jacked into yet another cul-
de-sac of immeasurable irrelevance.


Bradley Stoke
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asstr.org/Bradley_Stoke

[CS]

Sometimes the oldies are goodies. I can recommend (and I'm sure most
have probably read) "Me and Martha Jane".

Anything my Michael K. Smith is also good.

On Jan 28, 6:57 pm, "bradley.st...@googlemail.com"

[Switch Blayde]

> Well, just because a story says it is a stroke story or has "much
> sex", doesn't mean I should not expect a plot
 

I never wrote a "stroke" story and never will, but people do. SOL's definition of a stroke story is "if the story has nothing but sex, then select 'Stroke Story'." Based on that definition (has nothing but sex), you shouldn't expect a plot in a stroke story. That's why I don't think the TPA rating is valid for them.
 
All other categories should have a plot. When I write intricate plots, the story ends up novel length with the sex scenes occurring sporatically. It has to because of all the character develpment, their relationships, twists and turns, etc. I've never posted those on SOL. If I had, it would be classified as "minimal" sex. There's definitely an audience for that, but there are readers on SOL who want a good story that's mostly sex (i.e., "much sex"), which I think my "fan base" is. In my story "Forbidden" I wasn't sure how to classify it because the middle chapter in a 3-chapter story had absolutely no sex. The plot made it necessary. Since the story wasn't "the sex is just a small part of the story," which is the definition for "some sex," I elected to go with "much sex" and held my breath expecting emails to tell me I didn't have enough sex in it. All I'm saying is that, if the target audience is readers who simply want a good story with a lot of sex, the definition for a good plot might simply be "a good story that bridges sex scenes together."
 
The fact that you provide more than a number is wonderful. I believe that's the sign of a good reviewer.
 
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:10:47 -0800

> Subject: Re: Story recommendations?
> From: ajrevi...@gmail.com
> To: storie...@googlegroups.com
>
>

[Switch Blayde]

Thanks for bringing up "Me and Martha Jane." I started reading it a long time ago and stopped, and forgot what it was called. Now that I know how to add a story to my library, which I just did, I won't lose it again.
 
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:26:33 -0800
> Subject: Re: Story recommendations?
> From: cslema...@yahoo.com
> To: storie...@googlegroups.com

[Deadly Ernest]

G'day Guys,

I can understand the behaviour of thanking you for a review. I've had
very few stories reviewed but Yotna did one at Writer's Block and he
pointed out a few issues that I didn't even know were issues. I
thanked him for the review and for letting me know where I had to work
to improve my writing, then I amended the story and made an effort
NOT to repeat the same mistakes in later stories - I'm getting better
because of the review finding the problems and making me aware of
them. I'm sure the others who thank you are doing and feeling the
same.

Ernest

[Deadly Ernest]

G'day,

That depends on what SORT of stories you like. I've found plenty by
Dorsai, cmsix, Aubrie56, Scotland the Brave, The Scot, and others I
like, I put them in the My Favorites section of SOL so you can look at
them there. I'm also partial to the stories by my cousin Cazna, but
then I'm biased there as I usually direct the action stuff for him
while he does the erotica.

Aubrie 56 does some great westerns.

Ernest

On Jan 29, 10:57 am, "bradley.st...@googlemail.com"

[Punky Girl]

On recommendations: a couple other good ones are the Dr. Wu "Tiffany Daniels" series (try the Google on that one!!) and Rache's RBVS series (esp. "Long Fall to Forever" and "Runaway Dream". I don't really have any one favorite but I do have stories I'm emotionally attached to, like "Farm Girl" by Dark Dreamer. It's not the best written story and it's borderline stroke (does that count as a term in a woman's case?) but it was one of the first online sex stories I ever read and I've read it so much I honestly have entire passages memorized ver batiim. :P

On authors writing to reviewers: I've been writing on SOL.net for a very long time but in all those years I've only completed two stories. So maybe it's not a surprise that I've only ever received one review ("Family Honor" reviewed by AJReviewer). His review was mostly positive and I did write him to thank him, and he even wrote me back to thank me for thanking him, and then I wrote him back to thank him for thanking me for thanking him, and then he never wrote back again. Probably thought I was getting annoying... he wouldn't be the first.

Anyway, my point was going to be that the best feedback/editing I still get are from the grammar nazi fans I have out there. Ahem: "In paragraph eight in chapter two you used the word "through". I think you meant "thorough". Or "In this chapter Joe Smith's penis is 7" long and very thick. But in chapter 2 his penis was 9" and 'average in girth'." The only grammar nazis I don't like are the ones who try to enforce their grammar preferences, such as "You wrote 'Jane looked shocked. "You're really going through with it?" she said.'. What you should have written was 'Jane looked shocked. "You're really going through with it?" she asked.' And don't get me started on people who complain about sentences that end with a preposition... to borrow a phrase from Sir W. Churchill, "That is a rule up with which I shall not put."

-shannon-

~for some strange reason, working on her stories more since joining this board~

--
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www.asstr.org/~Forbidden_Fantasies/

[John Dovey]

Punky Girl wrote:
>
> -shannon-
> ~for some strange reason, working on her stories more since joining
> this board~

Isn't that interesting.. It seems that a majority of the posters to this
group are authors...

JD

[just-this-guy]

A "true" stroke story is simply a sex scene. It's people doing it and
it's unimportant how they got together. Plot is N/A.
I think there are few "true" stroke stories. Most stroke is "much
sex" instead because there is usually at least limited build up to how
the copulators got together. Plot should be marked low but readers
and authors should understand that is not a knock against the story.
You can't fault a non-plot story for having no plot just like you
can't fault a banana for being yellow.

[Switch Blayde]

> but it was one of the first online sex stories I ever read
 

That's how I feel about "Humiliation of Jane" by Anonymous. It's the story that got me writing erotica. The first part was really good, but the author abruptly stopped writing it so others kept adding chapters. It went downhill after the original author stopped. I liked it so much and felt so strongly about how the story was ruined that I rewrote it and posted it on a site I won't mention. But the original story will always have a place in my heart. I think I read it on ASSTR before SOL even existed, but I did a search on SOL and found it at:
http://storiesonline.net/story/37999
 
Another story that comes to mind is "Abducted Bride" by Jon Reskind. This is a harsh, violent story that is not for everyone. I haven't read it in years so I don't know if I'd still recommend it if I read it today, but the story had a lasting effect on me. I empathized with the protagonist, feeling her suffering and pain. It brought sorrow to my heart and a tear to my eye, things that stories on SOL-type sites don't usually do. It's on SOL at:
http://storiesonline.net/story/33381
 
Both stories are abusive, so if that squicks you stay away.
 
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:24:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Story recommendations?
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[SerenaJ]

Now there's an interesting question: what convinced you to write and post your first piece?

For me, it was realizing that there was an audience out there for written rather than visual smut. I had a couple stories I'd written that I was too shy to share with anyone I knew and I didn't think anyone would read since they weren't illustrated. Then I found Titelation, then ASSTR, and then SOL.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:24:12 -0500

To: <storie...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Story recommendations?

[SerenaJ]

Now there's an interesting question: what convinced you to write and post your first piece?

For me, it was realizing that there was an audience out there for written rather than visual smut. I had a couple stories I'd written that I was too shy to share with anyone I knew and I didn't think anyone would read since they weren't illustrated. Then I found Titelation, then ASSTR, and then SOL.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:24:12 -0500
To: <storie...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Story recommendations?

[bondi beach]

each to his own, of course, but this sentence in the first few paras of "jane" pretty much decided me not to spend any more time on it. what kind of study carrel was it, one where someone sings to you?  sure wish i had one of those when i was in grad school.

" "I have your books set aside in a special study carol," said Tom"

bb

[Tim Merrigan]

bondi beach wrote:
> each to his own, of course, but this sentence in the first few paras
> of "jane" pretty much decided me not to spend any more time on it.
> what kind of study carrel was it, one where someone sings to you?
> sure wish i had one of those when i was in grad school.
>
> " "I have your books set aside in a special study carol," said Tom"
>
> bb

It's a kind of rotating book shelf or rack, similar to the racks
paperback books are often kept on at supermarkets and airports. A lazy
Susan is a food and condiment carol, for instance. In this context
"carol" is short for "carousel".

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[bondi beach]

got it. and i imagine they spin jane around and take liberties with her as she whirls? maybe i'll read the story after all. (not.)

bb

[The Black Knight]

bondi beach allegedly wrote:
> maybe i'll read the story after all. (not.)

Wow. I'm pretty harsh about obvious lack of proofreading/editing...
but to totally trash a story over a single spelling mistake? I don't
know that I'd go that far.

Er, wait... I did once. Of course, it was a spelling mistake in the
title... and really... it's hard to believe anyone would use 'beech'
to describe anything other than a tree. (In retrospect, someone else
confirmed the story was as bad as I'd suspected from the title, so I
don't regret my suspicions. At least I didn't decide to review the
story...)

As for story suggestions... well, it's not a suggestion, really... but
one of the first 'real' stories I remember reading (and enjoying)
online was Blackie's "The Book". It was - at the time - far superior
quality writing to what was common. The premise - now a cliche - was
simple... give a normal, slightly loserish guy the ability to control
minds, and have him react to his newfound powers in as completely
realistic a manner as possible; next, introduce others with the same
power, as antagonists.

By today's standards, it's horribly cliched. And technically awful. It
still holds a place in my memory based on how good it was in its era,
though.

Still,.. I can't suggest it - or any story - to everyone. Personal
preferences and squicks and so on mean there is no one-size-fits-all
story. This is why, when I review, I try to identify which readers
will and will not likely enjoy a story, rather than try to pretend
readers are a homogeneous group who will universally love or hate a
given story.

[Punky Girl]

BB:

<./civility>

You said: "...this sentence in the first few paras of "jane" pretty much decided me not to spend any more time on it... sure wish i had one of those when i was in grad school."

First of all, why on Earth would you take the time to basically trash a story suggestion someone made here (by a couple of people, I think) for something you perceived to be a typo? Are you that anal about such trivial things that you thought to yourself, "Aha, I should let everyone on the SOL.net group know what's wrong with a story several people there think is popular! Because clearly a story with a small typo [you thought] is unworthy of my superior brain and I should enlighten to them why it should be for even their lowly ones, too."

This thread was supposed to be about suggesting stories you liked (I know, I started it!). While it's gone off topic a little before, you've really taken the cake. Not only did you not suggest a story but you bashed someone else's suggestion. Did that make you feel good?

Look, you're pompous. I already knew that from your love of that God-awful piece of "will-be-used-as-toilet-paper-first-after-the-apocalypse" book <cough> "The Historian". But to bash a free online story that people here have recommended because of what you perceived to be a typo? Jesus Christ! Typos *happen*, BB! They do! I edit the hell out of my stories and still they turn up. I read the greats out there on SOL.net and even the highest scoring stories have the occasional gaffe. Not only that, but I catch typos in published books by major authors who enjoy paid editors all the time! It's called human nature. Mistakes happen. Look at the typo, acknowledge (secretly) to yourself how clever you are for finding it, then move the fuck on!*

Incidentally, I started reading M&MJ, too. It wasn't my cup of tea. After the first chapter I deleted it from my SOL library and moved on. No biggie. If you had just said, "Well I started that Jane story and didn't really care for it. But this story, [insert a contribution here] is well worth the read. Check it out." it would've been cool. But no, you had to bash a story at least a couple of people here seem to have enjoyed for what you thought was a typo. Because you, who write your posts here like a struggling 9th grader would, supposedly went to grad school and such things are intolerable to you.

One last thing. Do you write on SOL.net? If so, please give me your author's name. I guaranfuckingtee that if you do that, I'll find typos in your own stories. Because you're inferior? No. Because you're pretentious? Well, you are, but that's not why. It's because you're fucking human!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*This isn't to say that a story that's absolutely ridden with typos is forgivable. I give a story one "your" instead of "you're" and I have to stop because that one just kills me. But from what I read of "Me and Martha Jane" that's certainly not the case.

<civility>

So, to stay on topic, who here has read "Katie and Lynn" by Gina Marie (use the Google to find it)? Great story! :)

Love always, 

Shannon

[El_Sol]

I've actually posted 'recommended stories' in my blog before and got a
surprising amount of response.

It especially served readers who aren't as 'old'... I mean been around
on the internet reading porn as long as I have.

Like for instance, they might not have read 'Aftermath' by Al Steiner
which I consider to be the best online story ever written... and it is
still my goal to write something that good but with more sex.

Or say "Blackmailing The Queen"

Or who haven't sunk into the darkness of Parker's story -- The kind of
stories that made me think "Oh... I enjoyed that a little bit too
fucking much!"

[Punky Girl]

Omg, Parker... he wrote "Stacy's Senior Year". That's another oldie but goody! I was maybe... 14? 15?... when I first read that. Such a great story. I need to go reread it, but first I have to go and try out your other suggestions (if you liked Parker, your other recommendations are worth checking out!). :)

-shannon-

[bondi beach]

ouch, guys. easy. not quite sure what i said qualifies as trashing the story. thought i was simply saying it didn't interest me, and why. perhaps it's a great story; clearly some people like it. no problem. perhaps that was the only error in the story, too, don't know. i cared enough to look up the story based on a recommendation from here, and i'm glad i did. not because i liked the story  --- i did not --- but because i appreciate that people take the time to tell others what they like.


we're just going to have to disagree on "the historian." that's ok.

i write as "bondi beach" on sol.

cheers,
bb

[Andrew Johns]

One of the things I try to do as a reviewer is go back and review some
older stories. I try to make it a 50-50 mix between old and new. I
did review "Blackmailing the Queen", and it is a classic.

It really depends on what you like. If brother/sister incest strikes
your fancy, Losgud has written quite a few gems that I have reviewed.
They are humorous and have some decent sex in them, with good build-
ups. They feature sister initiated incest from the male perspective.

If you like relationship stories, the two TGI Chronicles by GaryAPB
are good and different from the norm.

"Wedding Photos" by Vulgar Argot is a great story of getting that girl
you never thought you would. His "Road Games" is also quite well
done, with some very intense sex scenes.

JTMalone's "A Benign Something" is a nice lesbian exploration story.

"Jesus, Mary, and Joseph" by Jeremy Spencer is a great example of
telling a big story in a short amount of space. With just snippets of
their early life, see how two people that have known each other all
their lives find romance.

Quite a number of HedbangerSA's stories are well done.

"King Sized Bed" by Stringland83 is a very well done 3-some piece, as
is Al Steiner's "Nervepath".

You can look at my reviews for other stories I scored well for Appeal.

[Sam]

I read and enjoyed it. And I want more.

But I would never dare bug GMW!

[Avid Reader]

I will read always the fantastic stories of Just Plain Bob. Also, yes,
they vary only by small degrees, much like is the strata of the air I
must breathe. But breathe I must. Yes. Of the stories by the thousands
I have also read, Just Plain Bob will be for always me the bedrock of
my interest be. He is recommended heartily by truly yours.

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> - Show quoted text -

[The Black Knight]

Avid Reader allegedly wrote:
> I will read always the fantastic stories of Just Plain Bob.

And this is the problem with people trying to suggest stories to
everyone. JPB is one of the most consistently unpopular writers on
SOL. (Beating Off Bob, OTOH, is almost universally loved.)

Of course, neither Bob is really in a class I`d consider favorite
authors. B.O.B. (aka Lubrican) can write really interesting stuff, and
actually is able to make me overlook the fact that I really don`t see
the appeal of his kink...
JPB squicks me bad, though... I don`t think I could ever overlook the
fact that his kink is something I despise.

Now, B.R.B. is either a comic genius, or a mental deficient. I`m still
not entirely sure which... but I enjoy his stories nonetheless, and
he`s my favorite Bob. Still, only those who love (what is hopefully)
satire would appreciate them.

[Avid Reader]

It is also an expression of conflict to relate I will have enjoyed an
author without merit? For you, my friend, a legion of such dilemmas
must present themselves each day! Admit readily, I will, that the
opinion of popular reception others accord was also foremost not in my
mind. Perhaps, as I must always say in a situation so awkward, the
problem is with you?

[massivereader]

Shannon,

If you liked "Farm Girl" you would probably be interested to know it
was writen by one of the more prolific commercial authors of the pulp
pornography paperback era (in the seventies). He made an early
transition to the internet and wrote "Marine Sex Slave" which I
beleive was his first work posted online, and also "African Drums".

His main pen name is John Argus and he has aproximately 140 e-novels
for sale on his own web site or through BDSM Books. In the paperback
days he wrote his more brutal work, only marginally acceptable in
those times, such as "His Bitches" and "Four Daughters" as Dean King.
I have read he also posted some early work as frostflower. He may also
be pamela, but that last bit is speculation on my part, I am not
entirely positive. Although pamela, if not Argus himself, is certainly
his contemporary from back in the pulp paperback heyday.

I would strongly recomend any of the following "hard core" golden
oldies to you or anyone that likes the rough stuff:

Trophy Wife by special_kwa (Very, very long, lots of typos, very very
memorable.)
Police Story by pamela (Absolutely stunning tour de force.)
My Rent Whores (revised) by Norm De Plume (Misogyny at it's peak.)
The Mortgage by marlissa (Weak on grammar and spelling, strong on
character and content.)
The Obligation by StoryMaster (He simply writes the longest fucking
sex scenes I've ever run into.)
Coming of Age by Terri Madison (The things that harm us most, we do to
ourselves.)
Amber: Making of a Fuck Toy by Richard Bissell (Classic enough that
people willingly pay good money to read it.)
Kristen by el mano (the cruiser) (Technically, a mess, but cuts to the
heart of the matter.)
Lady Jane Greystones Remarkable Experiment by parker (Hey! I'm an ERB
fan, plus it's P-A-R-K-E-R)
Degredation of Trica by Lia Anderson (Perfect gem-like humiliation. I
beleive this may be the author that kicked off the whole enforced
nudity genre championed by Leviticus that led to katie lynch's
Surprise Assembly and Karen Wagner's Karen Naked in School universe,
all with a Silver Moon paperback in Britian entitled "Biker's Girl".)


If you prefer your porn on the more artistic side, or with a soft and
fuzzy note:

Amy's Smile by j_finn (Incomparable, but incomplete. Everything she
wrote is great, try "An Episode of Michaels".)
Janey's Stories (January, February etc.) by Janey Urquhart (Who could
pick just one?)
Death by Fucking by Ender Wiggin (Very long, very good, or try out "My
Rapist" by the same author for a taste.)
End Game by H. Jekyl (Warning! Warning! Serious Five Hanky Alert!
Don't blame me, dammit, I warned you!)
Affirmation by Hedbanger SA (Strong Four Hanky Alert. Caution, nearly
socially redeeming content.)
NiS Scars by kkat (I know, I know! Trust me, this is not your father's
NiS. If you like rache, this is up your alley.)
About Penguins by rache (Maybe not your main girl's absolute best, but
I think it's her most crazy/fun peice.)
Pre-game Superstition by katie lynch (katie early days, it was either
this or Tara's Nude Offer, which is incomplete.)
Change of Hart by ghosthostblue (Very long, absolutely the top shelf
in Erotic Mind Control.)
Love is A Silk Blindfold by angiquesophie (Anything by her is a trip.
Try out "Bordello" to get a quick sharp taste.)

I know you'll find plenty in there to enjoy, if you can spare the
time. Yep, there's plenty of gold in them thar hills...

Have fun.

John

On Jan 30, 1:53 am, Punky Girl <punkygir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Omg, Parker... he wrote "Stacy's Senior Year". That's another oldie but
> goody! I was maybe... 14? 15?... when I first read that. Such a great story.
> I need to go reread it, but first I have to go and try out your other
> suggestions (if you liked Parker, your other recommendations are worth
> checking out!). :)
> -shannon-
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:47 AM, El_Sol <munster.el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've actually posted 'recommended stories' in my blog before and got a
> > surprising amount of response.
>
> > It especially served readers who aren't as 'old'... I mean been around
> > on the internet reading porn as long as I have.
>
> > Like for instance, they might not have read 'Aftermath' by Al Steiner
> > which I consider to be the best online story ever written... and it is
> > still my goal to write something that good but with more sex.
>
> > Or say "Blackmailing The Queen"
>
> > Or who haven't sunk into the darkness of Parker's story -- The kind of
> > stories that made me think "Oh... I enjoyed that a little bit too
> > fucking much!"
>
> --
> -shannon-www.asstr.org/~Forbidden_Fantasies/
>

> =============================
> Every time I see your face
> I think of things unpure unchaste
> I want to fuck you like a dog
> I'll take you home and make you like it
> ---Liz Phair, "Flower"

> =============================- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

> =============================- Hide quoted text -

[T W]

Just thought I would add my 10¢

I know a lot has been done in the NIS stories but I would like the
concept
of a very mixed group [age but not much experience] going on a camp
for a week or so with much planned activity each day.
This would allow many different authors to draw their text pictures
for each session. I don't see this as being hard core, but much action
for many as they overcome their fears or gain experience.

If all is successful we could a second week or second group

Don't want it to be too lame just give scope for the different styles

Just a thought
Tony

[T W]

ps. I didn't see them starting in a 'program'
though perhaps a random person could be chosen [if they haven't been
before] for each session

Tony

[Switch Blayde]

Does anyone know what the very FIRST naked in school story was? It must have been good to generate so many followers.
 
Switch

[Tim Merrigan]

Switch Blayde wrote:
> Does anyone know what the very FIRST naked in school story was? It
> must have been good to generate so many followers.
>
> Switch

Karen Wagner's "Karen, Naked in School"

[Deadly Ernest]

G'day,

From the official Naked in School site info page - http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/about.html

The first story was 'Karen Naked in School' by Karen Wagner published
27 June 2001.

Ernest

[Punky Girl]

John....

I sort of love you right now. 

-shannon-

--
-shannon-
www.asstr.org/~Forbidden_Fantasies/

[Orblover]

Damn, I take a few hours off to take my wife out to her favorite redneck
bar (I almost called it a pub) and an NiS thread shows up.

Yes, Karen Wagner invented the Universe. It has expanded, branched, and
evolved over time. I'm doing my damnedest now to catalog and classify
the whole thing. Getting more than 2 people to agree with the
classification system is "interesting"!

Currently, we have over 70 authors that have published stories in the
Universe or related to it.

I'd say it was a successful Universe since it also has new stories
appearing 8 years after the original story.

Orb

http://www.orblover.com
Also on SoL and ASSTR
I Announce On: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Story_Announce/
Webmaster for the Naked In School Portal: http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/

[Orblover]

Tony,

There are stories in the Universe and its associated worlds that already
deal with camps.

Orb

http://www.orblover.com
Also on SoL and ASSTR
I Announce On: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Story_Announce/
Webmaster for the Naked In School Portal: http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/

[T W]

Thanks Orb

I will go back and see if I have missed any.

I thought it may be a good platform for many authors to collaborate in
a round robin, but without an emphasis on the program, while still
allowing individuality

Ta again
Tony

[Orblover]

Tony,

The collection is not exhaustive. I plan to do a major update every 6
months and handle minor changes as they occur. We've just been through
a process of defining more clearly what represents the orbits around the
core NiS universe. Over time, we'll add more stories. Plus, new
authors are showing up all the time.

I'm simple, want to contribute, it's welcome!

Be well,

[bondi beach]

i second the vote for the "janey" stories, especially "janey's september." how could anyone resist a story with the tagline of "small, friendly orgy"? she's wry, funny, and very hot.

bb

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:25 AM, massivereader <John...@msn.com> wrote:

[massivereader]

Hi,

From the context, I think you may be right about this being an error,
but I don't think it's a typo, just a failure of vocabulary. I ran
across this word as an undergrad, and made the same exact mistake. It
was (mis)used for small storage rooms in the Student Union (and
probably still is), at the university I attended for a few years. I
picked up the meaning through colloquial use and didn't find out the
correct spelling until almost a year later, due to the way it's
pronounced. Carol is just a homonym of the word he intended to use,
probably what he actually meant was:

carrel (plural carrels)

A partially partitioned space for studying or reading, often in a
library.
He was busy writing his report in a small library carrel.

We're all human. There are words that I've picked up in reading that I
mispronounced for decades.

John

On Jan 29, 4:46 pm, bondi beach <bondi.beach....@gmail.com> wrote:
> each to his own, of course, but this sentence in the first few paras of
> "jane" pretty much decided me not to spend any more time on it. what kind of
> study carrel was it, one where someone sings to you?  sure wish i had one of
> those when i was in grad school.
>
> " "I have your books set aside in a special study carol," said Tom"
>
> bb
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Switch Blayde

> <switch_bla...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> >  > but it was one of the first online sex stories I ever read
>
> > That's how I feel about "Humiliation of Jane" by Anonymous. It's the story
> > that got me writing erotica. The first part was really good, but the author
> > abruptly stopped writing it so others kept adding chapters. It went downhill
> > after the original author stopped. I liked it so much and felt so strongly
> > about how the story was ruined that I rewrote it and posted it on a site I
> > won't mention. But the original story will always have a place in my heart.
> > I think I read it on ASSTR before SOL even existed, but I did a search on
> > SOL and found it at:
> >http://storiesonline.net/story/37999
> >  <http://storiesonline.net/story/37999>
> > Another story that comes to mind is "Abducted Bride" by Jon Reskind. This
> > is a harsh, violent story that is not for everyone. I haven't read it in
> > years so I don't know if I'd still recommend it if I read it today, but the
> > story had a lasting effect on me. I empathized with the protagonist, feeling
> > her suffering and pain. It brought sorrow to my heart and a tear to my eye,
> > things that stories on SOL-type sites don't usually do. It's on SOL at:
> >http://storiesonline.net/story/33381
>
> > Both stories are abusive, so if that squicks you stay away.
>
> > Switch
>

> > ------------------------------

>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:24:12 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Story recommendations?

> > From: punkygir...@gmail.com

> >www.asstr.org/~Forbidden_Fantasies/<http://www.asstr.org/%7EForbidden_Fantasies/>

>
> > =============================
> > Every time I see your face
> > I think of things unpure unchaste
> > I want to fuck you like a dog
> > I'll take you home and make you like it
> > ---Liz Phair, "Flower"
> > =============================
>

> > ------------------------------

> > Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it

> > works.<http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitwor...>- Hide quoted text -

[bondi beach]

i agree that it was probably an honest mistake, so to speak, but it just turned me off about reading further. possibly an injustice to the story, even. other people called it a typo, i did not. i did like tim's explanation of what it really meant (carousel), however. i think he was joking.

also, thanks for your story recommendations. i now have a long list to look at.

bb

[massivereader]

Sam,

I've found GMW to be surprisingly accessable. She moderates a forum on
her own writers site

http://www.beyondthefarhorizon.com/

where she is as unfailingly knowledgeable and witty (and opinionated)
as she is in her writing.

Plus, she has the cutest damn avatar!

Don't worry too much, I've only seen her bring out the stick to thrash
miscreants a few times.

It's necessary to sign up to access the stories and forums, but it's
free and she guards her list religiously.

About two dozen good quality writers post over there. A few post there
first to work the bugs out of their peices before exposing it to a
larger audience, most of them post simultaneously on SOL.

She's got most everything mainstream she's written available there
except Kinsella, which she's submitting for the Amazon Novel contest.
Updates go up on Sundays. Her earlier stuff (Tom's Diary, Kate & Lynn,
Laura Alban Hunt, Spitfire and Messerschmidt) can still be found on
SOL or ASSTR.

Oh yeah, she's talking about getting back to LAH one of these days,
she's just waiting to get in the mood.

Do yourself a favor, go there immediately and read Tree Symphony. It's
one of her earlier things, and mainstream, but the first three chapers
compare favorably with any child prodogy story out there; even
"Ender's War".



John

> > the Google to find it)? Great story! :)- Hide quoted text -

[massivereader]

Shannon,

I'll send you a big kiss from rache when I hear from her next, anyone
who likes early Liz Phair is alright with me.

John

[Tim Merrigan]

Actually, I wasn't jocking, though I appear to have been mistaken.

> <mailto:bondi.beach....@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > each to his own, of course, but this sentence in the first few
> paras of
> > "jane" pretty much decided me not to spend any more time on it.
> what kind of
> > study carrel was it, one where someone sings to you? sure wish
> i had one of
> > those when i was in grad school.
> >
> > " "I have your books set aside in a special study carol," said Tom"
> >
> > bb
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Switch Blayde

> > <switch_bla...@hotmail.com <mailto:switch_bla...@hotmail.com>>wrote:

> > > From: punkygir...@gmail.com <mailto:punkygir...@gmail.com>
> > > To: storie...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:storie...@googlegroups.com>

> <ernest.bywa...@gmail.com <mailto:ernest.bywa...@gmail.com>>wrote:

> >
> > > G'day,
> >
> > > That depends on what SORT of stories you like. I've found
> plenty by
> > > Dorsai, cmsix, Aubrie56, Scotland the Brave, The Scot, and
> others I
> > > like, I put them in the My Favorites section of SOL so you can
> look at
> > > them there. I'm also partial to the stories by my cousin
> Cazna, but
> > > then I'm biased there as I usually direct the action stuff for him
> > > while he does the erotica.
> >
> > > Aubrie 56 does some great westerns.
> >
> > > Ernest
> >
> > > On Jan 29, 10:57 am, "bradley.st...@googlemail.com

> <mailto:bradley.st...@googlemail.com>"
> > > <bradley.st...@googlemail.com

> > > > asstr.org/Bradley_Stoke <http://asstr.org/Bradley_Stoke>
> >
> > > --
> > > -shannon-
> > >www.asstr.org/~Forbidden_Fantasies/
> <http://www.asstr.org/%7EForbidden_Fantasies/><http://www.asstr.org/%7EForbidden_Fantasies/>

> >
> > > =============================
> > > Every time I see your face
> > > I think of things unpure unchaste
> > > I want to fuck you like a dog
> > > I'll take you home and make you like it
> > > ---Liz Phair, "Flower"
> > > =============================
> >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.
> See how it
> > >
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>
>

[massivereader]

Orb,

In all the hustle and bustle about Naked in School, it is often
overlooked that NiS is only a small part of the enforced nudity
oeurve. Leviticus has been championing the sub-genre for years and a
lot of spicy enforced nudity tales can be found at:
http://www.writingsofleviticus.thekinkyserver.com/brigadoon.htm

Also, it's long been my impression that the entire enforced nudity
thing may have been kicked off by Lia Anderson when she/he wrote a
series of near a dozen paperback pornographic novels with that theme
for the Silver Moon imprint back in the early nineties. If she/he
didn't preceed Karen Wagner with the basic idea she was darn close.

Of course I could be wrong about that...

John

On Jan 31, 2:41 am, Orblover <m...@orblover.com> wrote:
> Damn, I take a few hours off to take my wife out to her favorite redneck
> bar (I almost called it a pub) and an NiS thread shows up.
>
> Yes, Karen Wagner invented the Universe.  It has expanded, branched, and
> evolved over time.  I'm doing my damnedest now to catalog and classify
> the whole thing.  Getting more than 2 people to agree with the
> classification system is "interesting"!
>
> Currently, we have over 70 authors that have published stories in the
> Universe or related to it.
>
> I'd say it was a successful Universe since it also has new stories
> appearing 8 years after the original story.
>
> Orb
>
> http://www.orblover.com
> Also on SoL and ASSTR
> I Announce On:http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Story_Announce/
> Webmaster for the Naked In School Portal:http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/
>
>
>
> Deadly Ernest wrote:
> > G'day,
>

> > From the official Naked in School site info page -http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/about.html

>
> > The first story was 'Karen Naked in School' by Karen Wagner published
> > 27 June 2001.
>
> > Ernest
>
> > On Jan 31, 5:18 pm, Tim Merrigan <t...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> Switch Blayde wrote:
>
> >>> Does anyone know what the very FIRST naked in school story was? It
> >>> must have been good to generate so many followers.
>
> >>> Switch
>
> >> Karen Wagner's "Karen, Naked in School"
>
> >> --
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> >> and to the republic which it established, one nation, from many peoples,
> >> promising liberty and justice for all.
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[massivereader]

TW,

If you happened to overlook them NiS - Scars by kkat and Jake Bergman
Naked In School by Ersatz are by far the most original, well conceived
and outstanding examples of the ever burgeoning NiS Universe.

At least in my humble opinion.

John

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[The Black Knight]

massivereader allegedly wrote:
> [GMW]

> Plus, she has the cutest damn avatar!

True.

> Don't worry too much, I've only seen her bring out the stick to thrash
> miscreants a few times.

Y'all haven't been paying attention, then.

(Although usually, we do tend to police ourselves, so she doesn't have
to so much.)

> Oh yeah, she's talking about getting back to LAH one of these days,
> she's just waiting to get in the mood.

Don't anyone dare send her email about LAH. I'd like to see her finish
that one in my lifetime, and she has basically stated that every
question she receives about when she's gonna update (LAH, S&M, or
Tom2) she intentionally adds in a delay to her resumption of posting.

[Serena J]

I haven't gotten to Scars yet but Jake Bergman is one of my absolute favorites! It's the one that got me into NiS in the first place. Ersatz has had real life absorb his writing time over the last year or so but he's promised me that he intends to eventually finish the story.   His other story "Beachcombing" is one of the most romantic thing ever written. Definately worth a look if you like romance!   Serena J --- On Sat, 1/31/09, massivereader <John...@msn.com> wrote:

[bondi beach]

when i asked her, some time ago, whether we might ever see more of s&m, she told me she was burned out on writing sex scenes and that it would be some time, if not forever (my words, not hers) before she got back to it. i hope she changes her mind. she left us all hanging with s&m---i really want to know what happened at the beach that weekend.

bb

[Sam]

Thanks for your reccomendations, John. They would have been great,
but I have already read them, including the recent _Tree Symphony_.
And enjoyed it, natch.

And while all true about her cute avatar and accessibility,
she _is_ a touch sensitive about people bugging her,
ot other authors for that matter, about continuing their stories.
And she is not shy about expressing that touchiness!

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[The Black Knight]

Sam allegedly wrote:
> [Gina] _is_ a touch sensitive about people bugging her,
> or other authors for that matter, about continuing their stories.

> And she is not shy about expressing that touchiness!

Well, anyone who thinks Gina (or pretty much anyone else) is 'touchy'
about anything related to authors... has never dealt with Net Wolf.
Although I've never thought he went off on anyone who didn't deserve
it...

[massivereader]

To The Black Night,

Of course, you are absolutely right about GMW's weilding of said
stick. Yet, in a genre so dominated by BDSM themes, can't "a few
times" reasonably be considered a bit subjective? Especially if the
readers kinda enjoy it?


<massivereader falling to the carpet and groveling most pitifully>
Please massa night, please don't tell mistress gina on me; that stick
of hers, it really do sting!

<massivereader now rising to his knees and beating his breast> mea
culpa, mae culpa, mea maxima culpa!

<massivereader then raising his (slightly sweaty) right hand> I do
solemly swear never to mention LAH again.

Because ... It's probably that very thing that's kept j_finn away from
Amy's Smile, lo these several years.

That said, I must plead innocence, Sir Knight. For whoever would dare
be so incivil as to impose on a gracious and refined lady in such a
calous and undignified way, merely to feed the basest of one's own
desires?

<cough>

Thanks for the warning!

John

P. S. Does anyone know the artist's name that is responsible for pen
and ink drawing GMW uses as an avatar? It looks like a small clip from
a much larger comic book panel. She told me she chose it from an
avatar gallery she found on the internet some years ago, simply
because she liked it, but she has no idea who the artist is.

[dotB]

< Does anyone know the artist's name that is responsible for pen
< and ink drawing GMW uses as an avatar? It looks like a small clip
from
< a much larger comic book panel. She told me she chose it from an
< avatar gallery she found on the internet some years ago, simply
< because she liked it, but she has no idea who the artist is.

I believe that was done by Lai Tseun, a relatively youthful Chinese
artist, working in Japan. It certainly looks to be his (her?) style.
(I think I have the pronunciation of the name right, but I may have
the spelling wrong)

[John Dovey]

I just read Tree Symphony by Gina Marie Wylie and thought it was incredibly beautiful.
http://www.beyondthefarhorizon.com/phpBB2/chapter_list.php?s=159
JD

[Orblover]

John,

Given that the NiS world came into being in 2001, I'm certain their were
others before. It is a shame that Karen Wagner doesn't answer emails
any longer, I'd love to find out what her (his?) inspirations were.

Orb

http://www.orblover.com
Also on SoL and ASSTR
I Announce On: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/Story_Announce/
Webmaster for the Naked In School Portal: http://www.asstr.org/~NIS/

[Deadly Ernest]

Probably the old dream of suddenly finding yourself standing naked in
a crowd.

[Homer]

Good Idea.

But I'd suggest the recommender say something about the story to avoid
wasting someon's time.

I recommend any Downing Street Story on MCStories. Most involve a
female protagonist becoming mysteriously more and more sexed up, as
shown by progressively sexier shoes and dress.



On Jan 25, 11:35 am, Shannon <PunkyGir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why don't we use this group to suggest good stories to one another?
> -shannon-

[massivereader]

I just noticed that this thread dropped off the front page.

Shame on you all!

Homer Vargas made a request about the current status of some
of the "Golden Age" BBS/ASS era writers when I made a passing
reference to Celeste. Sorry, I have no idea what happened to them.

But that made me think. How many of you-all are new to this, in that
you never dipped into stuff from 10 or 15 years ago?

Here's a link to a nice archive, Bit Bard's Library, which includes
the aforementioned Celeste's classic reviews. This is a treasure
trove of wit and refinement, that will point you to a wonderful world
of early internet era work, mostly short an tightly written, sans the
bloat that seems a defining characteristic of so much of today's
most popular erotica.

http://www.asstr.org/~BitBard/

There's a dozen classic authors from the era in there as well.

In particular, anyone who's a Terry Prattchet or Douglas Adams
fan would probably appreciate M1keHunt. He's a scream.

Another good resouce is here:

http://www.geocities.com/franzkafka79/

This is the latest (2004) attempt to update Old Joe's Guide.

Have Fun!

John

On Jan 25, 11:35 am, Shannon <PunkyGir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why don't we use this group to suggest good stories to one another?

> I'll start by recommending "Little Susie" (http://www.asstr.org/files/
> Collections/tyger/stories/lilsusie.txt), one of my all time
> favorites.
>
> -shannon-

[massivereader]

One more (apparently vain) try to keep this topic on the front page.

I recommend "The Trailer Park" by Wizzard.
http://storiesonline.net/story/46167

Anyone that can make ME sympathetic to a middleschool kid playing
football, of all things, has true writing chops.

Wizzard's up to year five with the latest entries and the trailer park
kids are nearing the end of High School.

The first story is a bit weaker than the later ones, with less depth
of characterization and less serious themes, but more enthusiastic
mostly guilt-free underage sex to comensate for that. At the start
this is a story where (as was recently discussed in another thread0
kids act like kids and not forty year olds in teenage bodies. And I
would not deny anyone the pleasure of following Tony's growth and
developement right from the start.

Caution! Be prepared to have your heart torn out at the end of "The
Trailer Park: The Fourth Year".
http://storiesonline.net/story/50214 Possibly the strongest,
certainly the most tragically moving of the series.

I suggest having a box of Kleenex at hand, even the big strong manly
men amongst us who get that far.

The only criticism I can muster of this work is: I could do without as
much C&W singing and verbatim lyrics in the last couple of stories,
but that's a personal preference. Wizard has fallen under the evil
spell of Russell Hosington, who seems to have possessed his immortal
soul, so there's not much to be done about that.

John

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