Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses

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Oct 29, 2020, 1:54:37 AM10/29/20
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You can’t open closed minds!!!!

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:38 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is no one more corrupt than Trump in the entire world. Not even Modi.

Please stop misguiding people.





On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 12:34 PM, Anand Sharma <akshar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

You have my commitment that whatever news I post here is as thoroughly researched as humanly possible. Every one's time is very valuable.

I had posted a few weeks ago how Biden is thoroughly corrupt and mentioned examples of Ukraine and China. Being the Vice President, he could not take bribes directly, so took it through his son, the same technique applied by some of our leaders from yester-years.  

Now reports are coming out verifying exactly what I said. These reports are not from a third party but from the actual hard drive of Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden. 

There are only 3 weeks left in the US elections and all of the people residing in US have a moral responsibility to know the full facts before voting.

We are a very small part of USA so probably our votes may not mean much but sometimes a few votes may mean big difference in close elections. 

A short reminder of history - in 50's, 60's, there was a life and death struggle between US and USSR for survival called cold war. America created many pacts SEATO, CENTO etc. in Asia which Pakistan joined but we remained nonaligned. 

As a result, US policy became heavily tilted in favor of Pakistan. Pakistan has received enormous amounts of US Military and Financial aid which has been used to kill large number of Indian civilians and military. Pakistan and China are our evil mortal enemies.

TRUMP IS THE ONLY USA PRESIDENT TO REVERSE THAT TREND AND LARGELY STOP MILITARY AND FINANCIAL AID TO PAKISTAN. IT IS UPTO US ALL TO RESPOND TO THIS RARE POSITIVE GESTURE OR IF HE WINS,HE MAY ALSO BECOME LIKE THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS.     

​Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 

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Subject: Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 
When I say fake news; what I mean is manipulative, deceptive, fake propaganda, demagoguery, divisive etc.


On Oct 14, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Satya D <hita...@gmail.com> wrote:


What is fake news Sir.  Did you even read the article Anand ji posted or the presentation I posted and challenge anything being said  based on facts other than responding 'fake news'.   Congress, Senate are all talking about Hunter Biden expose.   That is fake news and what you think in your head is true news.  This is insanity.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:24 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please stop spreading fake news and please remove my name from this list.


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On Wednesday, October 14, 2020, 11:20 PM, Satya D hita...@gmail.com [IAMUC] <IAMUC-...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Anand ji,

I hope Hindu Americans see what you and others who see the writing on the wall are speaking.   Most (or maybe almost all) of us had all been democrats for decades but now we see a very perceptible danger.   The tone and harshness of some people to these emails without giving little time to the arguments put forth is disheartening.    
 
Please see this presentation which is also another big eye opener to what you said in your email.    

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:05 PM Anand Sharma <akshar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Validating what I have been saying about Joe Biden's corruption. If we vote for such a dishonest person and if Chinese or Muslims pay him bribe to harm India -

You intelligent people decide whether he will uphold the moral and spiritual values of India or assist our enemies in their quest to destroy us.  

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The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is investigating newly released emails that reveal that Hunter Biden introduced his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings in 2015 at Hunter's request. 

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 

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Subject: Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 

I have been in North America for 52 years and have been a close associate and friend of Ramesh Shah Ji for decades.

Together, we have been on many missions of National and Hindu importance. We have held demonstrations whenever some organizations went way overboard, manned many community stalls, organized community meetings, participated in Radio and TV programs in USA in the Seva of Bharat Mata etc. etc.

As most of you know, Ramesh Shah ji's dedication and sacrifices for Bharat Mata Ji is beyond parallel and if we differ with him on a point or two, allowing it to take away anything from his lifelong dedicated service, will be highly immoral. Any of our differences on a particular topic should be on basis of merit and merit only.

Having said that, I very strongly disagree with Ramesh Shah Ji's advice to vote democrat. All Indians should vote for Trump and Republicans. President Trump is the best friend of India ever. Democrats are corrupt people that are ruining America very fast. Our children and grandchildren should be proud of the country they have emigrated to after giving up their native country and the divine culture, not be ashamed of it.   

Trump has built the best economy ever and is protecting US, like no one before, from enemies of US, both foreign and domestic. He is single handedly fighting the whole world alone, against highly unfair trade practices against US and illegal aliens flooding the country.

After having a big lifelong heartburn of seeing the US Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, supply the latest military weapons and lavish financial aid to the enemy, terrorist country of Pakistan, TRUMP is the first American President who has almost stopped all financial and military aid to Pakistan.

Obama enjoyed the festivities of being the chief guest at India's republic day parade, came back and increased the military aid to Pakistan 6 times.

Democrats and Joe Biden, their nominee for president, are extremely low character swamp, corrupt people, a blot on the noble name of USA and this election is the lowest moral campaign in US history with total made up lies from democrats, tragically supported by corrupt media. 

Democrats have fallen so low that their leaders in democratically supported states are deliberately allowing their cities and businesses to burn, many innocents to be hurt and killed, including small children, women raped, in the hope that they can blame it all on Trump and win elections, that they cannot do on merit. Democrats and corrupt media have joined hands to spread total, baseless lies about Trump, have been trying to unseat a duly elected President for more than 4 years even before the previous elections.

Democrats and rich owners of media are doing it because they are getting richer by selling America to Chinese and others and that means they are ruining the US forever for our next generations.   

There are so many examples of Media/Democrats corruption. Narrating 2 Biden episodes below:

Biden goes to China. Rides along his son Hunter Biden (kicked out of army for drug use) on Air Force 2. Hunter meets many Chinese business executives, totally out of protocol. Introduces some to Joe Biden, TOTALLY ILLEGAL. China invests 1.4 billion dollars in a company in which Hunter Biden has interest. Chinese are no fools, in return, they get to dump hundreds of billions of cheaply made Chinese goods in US with virtually no tariff. Big losers, US economy and tens of thousands of jobs lost in US.

Example 2 - Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Ukraine gets billions of dollars of hard working Americans' tax money as aid.

One Ukraine prosecutor starts to investigate corruption. Joe Biden has him fired, threatening to withhold aid and brags about it on national TV. Next thing we know is that Hunter Biden with no Oil or Gas experience, is elected to the board of directors of a major Ukraine gas company, Burisma, and is paid $50,000/month as salary.

Ramesh Shah Ji, please revise and correct your recommendation.      

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma

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Subject: Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 

Dear Satyaji, Arunji and other Bandhus:

 

I was shocked to read allegations of Ramesh Shah being a Desh Drohi or anti national .  To put it mildly, these allegations reflect the highest level of naivety.  Rameshji has done more for India than all the friends who call him a Desh Drohi.  He and his family have also done tremendous work for Hindus, India, USA and humanity. Calling him a Desh Drohi is a great dis-service to Hindus and India. You may disagree with Rameshji's comments, however, calling him a liar is absolutely wrong.

 

As a citizen and voter of the USA, Rameshji has all the right to endorse and vote for a candidate.  Although, I do not agree with his comments about Trump, in a democratic country, he is free to express his opinion about Biden and Trump.  Attached is my article about Biden published in the Daily Guardian, India about Biden whom I had known since 1974 when he first got elected to the U.S. Senate. Also attached is another article about Biden published in the Times of India. Based on my frequent interactions with him, in spite of some apprehensions about Biden, I believe he will also be good for India; may not be as good as Trump.  Please learn democratic values and respect freedom of expression even though you may not agree with some.

 

All who have known and have worked with Rameshji respect him highly.  Again, he and his family are generous and no other Indian family come close to his family in helping India.


Also attaching a couple of articles related to Biden and one related to Middle East.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Jitendra


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Subject: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 
Sir,

>>  'Both have positive and negative points'

Please do not speak with knowing facts.  '  Please educate me in what respect Biden/Kamala will help in our mother nation or in our adopted nation.   Yes, Trump may not be sensitive to the environment and it is an issue which is more passive.   He may even seem to give fuel to racism to whites who feel insecure in becoming an increasing minority.  However, in issues that directly affect us immensely, we have a sea of difference.  I was a democrat for most of my life, it is time we as a community not to get carried away by corporate media propaganda with its own agenda and see through things and make the right choice.   Here are some points:

1) The anti-India statements of both Biden/Kalama against Kashmir, CAA and Article 370, spell danger for our motherland India especially when we have a real threat from China/Pakistan.

2) On the other hand, during the recent clash with China, US President sent  US Nimitz warship to support India.   During the last 70 years of independence, did India get any support and here is the President on his own offering to not just help, sending out to support a possible larger invasion.   Even during 1962, Nehru had to fall in feet of the US Ambassador and beg for help to stop China.     All these years, all Presidents from both aisles supported arming Pakistan that caused enormous loss of lives and livelihood with the principle of 'death by thousand cuts'.

3) Do you really want Islam to be taught in Schools, to your children and grandchildren?  Do you want to go back to those days during Obama where Islamic terrorists had free reign in the US targeting many people and killing them?

4) Have you heard of 'Biden Amendment' as a senator how Biden stopped Cryogenic technology badly needed for India (see the complete list of the virulent anti-India movements of democratic party below and you will be shocked!!)

5) Do you want Pakistan to be armed again and kill our people, our soldiers?   After Trump came he completely stopped the funding and took them head-on.   If Biden comes back he will arm Pakistan and force India to buy more arms to face a stronger Pakistan, in addition to china threat.

6) Do you want to burn down our cities and what kind of country you want to leave for our children and grandchildren?   Do you want leftists and arsonists to come and destroy your business and your homes?

7) Do you really think Biden who got favors from China will go after China?  See the email below from Anand Sharma ji on how his son was benefited from China.    On the contrary, how much Trump pushed back against their mercenary trade practices.   What future do you think your children and grandchildren will have if most jobs are taken away, our technology is stolen and makes us obsolete?

8) Do you know he is the only President who openly supports Hindu Americans and India and backs it with actions unlike the lip service or even directly antagonistic (like Clintons) of those who came before him.

Let us put our head and not talk nonsense sitting in armchairs without giving issue proper thought.  A vote is a precious and sacred right, it needs a thorough analysis, not because some media said it, not because I said, you have a responsibility to objectively analyze and see the facts for yourself because while we vote individually, we are also affecting the collective.   

No one is saying Trump is an ideal candidate but in elections we are forced to make choices but given where we are in history  it is suicidal to not to think through this and not act wisely.

Here is some more data if you are interested that was already propagated.

Excellent interview of a Georgia Democratic congressman who happened to speak in support of Trump at Republican party conventions.   Watch carefully what he is saying.

If anyone is interested, read 'Biden Amendment' against India, what Biden as senator did. 

Here is someone posting the burning down of American cities and implications to Hindus ...  What kind of country do you want to leave for children and grandchildren?http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Destruction-of-America-and-how-it-affect-Hindus.mp4

Here is a glimpse of what democratic party under Clintons/Biden did to India that was compiled by Arvind Kumar during the last Presidential election with all the links.   DEMOCRATIC PARTY - A QUARTER CENTURY OF HOSTILITY TOWARD INDIA
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