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Sir,

>>  'Both have positive and negative points'

Please do not speak with knowing facts.  '  Please educate me in what respect Biden/Kamala will help in our mother nation or in our adopted nation.   Yes, Trump may not be sensitive to the environment and it is an issue which is more passive.   He may even seem to give fuel to racism to whites who feel insecure in becoming an increasing minority.  However, in issues that directly affect us immensely, we have a sea of difference.  I was a democrat for most of my life, it is time we as a community not to get carried away by corporate media propaganda with its own agenda and see through things and make the right choice.   Here are some points:

1) The anti-India statements of both Biden/Kalama against Kashmir, CAA and Article 370, spell danger for our motherland India especially when we have a real threat from China/Pakistan.

2) On the other hand, during the recent clash with China, US President sent  US Nimitz warship to support India.   During the last 70 years of independence, did India get any support and here is the President on his own offering to not just help, sending out to support a possible larger invasion.   Even during 1962, Nehru had to fall in feet of the US Ambassador and beg for help to stop China.     All these years, all Presidents from both aisles supported arming Pakistan that caused enormous loss of lives and livelihood with the principle of 'death by thousand cuts'.

3) Do you really want Islam to be taught in Schools, to your children and grandchildren?  Do you want to go back to those days during Obama where Islamic terrorists had free reign in the US targeting many people and killing them?

4) Have you heard of 'Biden Amendment' as a senator how Biden stopped Cryogenic technology badly needed for India (see the complete list of the virulent anti-India movements of democratic party below and you will be shocked!!)

5) Do you want Pakistan to be armed again and kill our people, our soldiers?   After Trump came he completely stopped the funding and took them head-on.   If Biden comes back he will arm Pakistan and force India to buy more arms to face a stronger Pakistan, in addition to china threat.

6) Do you want to burn down our cities and what kind of country you want to leave for our children and grandchildren?   Do you want leftists and arsonists to come and destroy your business and your homes?

7) Do you really think Biden who got favors from China will go after China?  See the email below from Anand Sharma ji on how his son was benefited from China.    On the contrary, how much Trump pushed back against their mercenary trade practices.   What future do you think your children and grandchildren will have if most jobs are taken away, our technology is stolen and makes us obsolete?

8) Do you know he is the only President who openly supports Hindu Americans and India and backs it with actions unlike the lip service or even directly antagonistic (like Clintons) of those who came before him.

Let us put our head and not talk nonsense sitting in armchairs without giving issue proper thought.  A vote is a precious and sacred right, it needs a thorough analysis, not because some media said it, not because I said, you have a responsibility to objectively analyze and see the facts for yourself because while we vote individually, we are also affecting the collective.   

No one is saying Trump is an ideal candidate but in elections we are forced to make choices but given where we are in history  it is suicidal to not to think through this and not act wisely.

Here is some more data if you are interested that was already propagated.

Excellent interview of a Georgia Democratic congressman who happened to speak in support of Trump at Republican party conventions.   Watch carefully what he is saying.

If anyone is interested, read 'Biden Amendment' against India, what Biden as senator did. 

Here is someone posting the burning down of American cities and implications to Hindus ...  What kind of country do you want to leave for children and grandchildren?http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Destruction-of-America-and-how-it-affect-Hindus.mp4

Here is a glimpse of what democratic party under Clintons/Biden did to India that was compiled by Arvind Kumar during the last Presidential election with all the links.   DEMOCRATIC PARTY - A QUARTER CENTURY OF HOSTILITY TOWARD INDIA

1994: Bill Clinton supports Pakistan on Kashmir and accuses India of human rights violations

1995: Bill Clinton Appointee declares Indian scarves flammable and orders recall hurting Indian textile industry


1998:
 Bill Clinton imposes sanctions on India  (see protests in India related to this)

1999: Bill Clinton tries to impose stringent labor standards on India that would destroy Indian businesses and eliminate competition for Clinton’s cronies

 

2016: Hillary Clinton picks Christian missionary, Hindu-baiter and India hater Tim Kaine as VP running mate


Here is excellent write up by Anand Sharma on what Biden will mean for America and for Hindus:

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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020, 05:47:30 PM EDT

Subject: Re: [USBrahmins] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses


I have been in North America for 52 years and have been a close associate and friend of Ramesh Shah Ji for decades.

Together, we have been on many missions of National and Hindu importance. We have held demonstrations whenever some organizations went way overboard, manned many community stalls, organized community meetings, participated in


Radio and TV programs in USA in the Seva of Bharat Mata etc. etc.


As most of you know, Ramesh Shah ji's dedication and sacrifices for Bharat Mata Ji is beyond parallel and if we differ with him on a point or two, allowing it to take away anything from his lifelong dedicated service, will be highly immoral. Any of our differences on a particular topic should be on basis of merit and merit only.

 


Having said that, I very strongly disagree with Ramesh Shah Ji's advice to vote democrat. All Indians should vote for Trump and Republicans. President Trump is the best friend of India ever. Democrats

are corrupt people that are ruining America very fast. Our children and grandchildren should be proud of the country they have emigrated to after giving up their native country and the divine culture, not be ashamed of it.   

 

Trump has built the best economy ever and is protecting US, like no one before, from enemies of US, both foreign and domestic. He is single handedly fighting the whole world alone, against highly unfair trade practices against US and illegal aliens flooding the country.


After having a big lifelong heartburn of seeing the US Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, supply the latest military weapons and lavish financial aid to the enemy, terrorist country of Pakistan, TRUMP is the first American

President who has almost stopped all financial and military aid to Pakistan.........
 
Obama enjoyed the festivities of being the chief guest at India's republic day parade, came back and increased the military aid to Pakistan 6 times.


Democrats and Joe Biden, their nominee for president, are extremely low character swamp, corrupt people, a blot on the noble name of USA and this election is the lowest moral campaign in US history with total made up lies from democrats, tragically supported by corrupt media. 

 

Democrats have fallen so low that their leaders in democratically supported states are deliberately allowing their cities and businesses to burn, many innocents to be hurt and killed, including small children, women raped, in the hope that they can blame it all on Trump and win elections, that they cannot do on merit. Democrats and corrupt media have joined hands to spread total, baseless lies about Trump, have been trying to unseat a duly elected President for more than 4 years even before the previous elections.

 

Democrats and rich owners of media are doing it because they are getting richer by selling America to Chinese and others and that means they are ruining the US forever for our next generations.   

 

There are so many examples of Media/Democrats corruption. Narrating 2 Biden episodes below:

 


Biden goes to China. Rides along his son Hunter Biden (kicked out of army for drug use) on Air Force 2. Hunter meets many Chinese business executives, totally out of protocol. Introduces some to Joe Biden, TOTALLY ILLEGAL. China

invests 1.4 billion dollars in a company in which Hunter Biden has interest. Chinese are no fools, in return, they get to dump hundreds of billions of cheaply made Chinese goods in US with virtually no tariff. Big losers, US economy and tens of thousands of jobs lost in US.

 


Example 2 - Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Ukraine gets billions of dollars of hard working Americans' tax money as aid.

 

One Ukraine prosecutor starts to investigate corruption. Joe Biden has him fired, threatening to withhold aid and brags about it on national TV. Next thing we know is that Hunter Biden with no Oil or Gas experience, is elected

to the board of directors of a major Ukraine gas company, Burisma, and is paid $50,000/month as salary.

 


Ramesh Shah Ji, please revise and correct your recommendation.      


Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

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On Tuesday, September 22, 2020, 06:05:00 AM CDT, 'Bhuta, Ashok V.' ashok...@pseg.com [IAMUC] <iamuc-...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Please remove me from the mailing list

 

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:10 AM Bala N. Aiyer <bna...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Two US Politicians are fighting for their position - for profit.
Both have positive and negative points. Why are we fighting among ourselves for that.
Their actions will not affect India or Pakistan. They act only for their own interest and US interest. India & Pakistan do not care much for any of their actions. 

Our unity is important. We are all the same US citizens - Hindus, Muslims, from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka - does not make any difference here. We are all in the same soup bowel. 


Bala N. Aiyer

 

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On Sep 22, 2020, at 4:45 AM, Krishna Reddy penn...@msn.com [IndianVoice] <IndianVoi...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Yes, you are right that rumor of pardon is going on. However that pardon, looks like, might not save him from Network courts.

 

I don't know the how State courts deal in such a situation 

 

 

Let us hope for Biden/Harris win. Great help for the much needed climate changes. 

Climate change will benefit whole world including India. 

 

Krishna Reddy 

 

 

 

 

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

 

 

 

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Date: 9/21/20 5:23 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [IndianVoice] Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses

 

Folks who support Trump - have their own Finances at Stake. It’s all about how much they will save on Taxes if Trump wins and how much they loose with Biden. 

Trump is good for very rich and India. 

But has no moral values and is totally corrupt.

He will be unleashed crook in the second term.

If he looses he will

Go from White House to Rikers Island ! NY US attorneys are waiting

Watch !

Rumor has it that if Trump looses he  will

Resign and Pence becomes POTUS. Pence will then pardon Trump.

Best to all 

 



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On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 8:08 PM, Devendra Singh deven...@hotmail.com [IndianVoice] <IndianVoi...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I think the views of Dr. Reddy are grossly misinformed. The candidates we select are only good for four years, so it's difficult to look beyond that. The issue Bharat faces will continue to exist after four or the next 20 years, but Biden is more likely to complicate the issues as he and Ms. Harris have publicly supported Pakistan and Biden has made a video appealing for Muslim votes. Ms. Harris is a ploy to fool gullible Hindus. Trump has at least kept his mouth shut on the Kashmir issue and has backed Modi. He didn't say a controversial word during his last trip to India, while it has been a tradition of past US Presidents to wrongly admonish India on its human rights records.

 

I fail to understand how the election of Biden/Harris is good for the world, including India. There are no ethical and moral values in politics. It's only extracting the best deal from your opponent. I would still put Trump ahead in marks even in moral and ethical values that seem very important to you. 

 

Trump has his own issues and I agree there is no clean winning choice in this election. It's a choice between the bad and the worse. I believe Biden is the worse candidate. A strong President will be good for India and given his chemistry with Modi, I think India can extract more from Trump than Biden. Democrats have gone too far to the left and this party has been hijacked by the socialists and Islamists that is extremely dangerous to US. I expect a limited war to break out between India and China in the next few weeks. This will also involve Pakistan. Trump will more likely to support India in countering China than Biden.

 

I hope you change your views before the election and do the fund raising for Trump instead.

 

Devendra

 


 

Dear Satya Hitaya ji,

 

I am happy to see and review your email. Gujarati leaders and their communities are the best in overall leadership and wealth build up. They are a model to all the Indians in general.  I salute all!

 

With respect to the support of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,  we have to into account all the factors not just one isolated short term goal. The with neighbors of India is not going to go away in four years. Please remember India survived and did well internationally about in successful outcomes of its wars especially with Pakistan. Even China because of commercial interest, has to think a lot before harming Indian interests. 

 

However election of Biden/Harris is not only good for India but also the rest of the world. 

We the Indians always advocate moral and ethical values. Think who has better moral values of the two contesting candidates in USA. WHO IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIEYER?

WHO RESPECTS HUMAN VALUES?

Can you trust a corrupt and undisciplined leader to run the country?

 

Think about our children and grandchildren.  Their future is at stake. With all the conservative judges not only in the highest court but all federal courts, our folks will suffer discrimination and its antecedent consequences. 

 India will be better of with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden than an unpredictable dictator. 

 

Please not only support Kamala Harris and Joe Biden,  but also consider a virtual fund raising for them.

I will join you in such an endeavors!

 

May God be with us!

 

Dr Krishna Reddy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

Date: 9/18/20 9:18 AM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses

 

 

I thought I would share Ramesh Shah ji's recent appeal to Gujarati community in 'India herald' to vote for Biden/Kamala and the fitting rebuttals from the community, including from the very Gujarati community he was trying to convince.     It is sad that in his blind pursuit he chose to misrepresent with lies and half-truths which every one of the 5 members of the community who responded exposed very well.  

 

Did we not have enough of 900 years of Islamic rule and 200 years of Western colonialists? Do we want more centuries now under China and perhaps even Western Establishment, China, Islamists break India and take pieces? 

 

What is this infatuation for children and the children/personal careers that we are willing to sacrifice away our country...  Ramakrishna Paramahamsa used to say, 'the very spouse and children you crave for will not even want to keep your body more than a few hours in the home soon after you die, grow out of your infatuation you fool'?

   

As they say, one can engage with an intelligent enemy but never with a foolish friend.   But then it is foolish on my part to call a 'friend', because one need not be my enemy even if they abuse me but one can never be my friend if they are willing to sacrifice Bharat, our mother.

 

The full article with Ramesh Shah ji letter and fitting 5 responses including Achalesh Amar ji  is at link below (also reproduced the images below):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,
Satya

 

 

SOME MORE RESPONSES BELOW FROM COMMUNITY BELOW AGAINST RAMESH SHAH JI' ARTICLE

 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Ratan Sharda <rnsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Ramesh ji's call to Gujaratis to support Biden/Kamala
To: Satya D <hita...@gmail.com>

 

Cearly, Indian society in USA is in ferment. The debate I see and saw in the publication below clearly tell us that Hindus are divided into traditionalist Democrats and others who have grown out of it. I see a similarity between compulsive habitual Congress voters who slowly and reluctantly realised how Congress was destroying Hindu culture and society in the name of secularism.  I have enjoyed the lively debate. But, end of the day - Biden and Kamala have clearly stood with Pakistan view point on Kashmir which for India is a question of civilisational survival. 

 

I will not get into debate, I can only observe as I stay in India. But, I must say, I saw a clip, not the edited but full 5-6 minutes of Biden having conversation with some ladies on TV. I was aghast at his inability to form one coherent sentence in entire conversation. He seemed lost in forming sentences or his ideas. This is most dangerous and risky for a nation  that is still the biggest power in the world. Will he be his own man or will he be a screen for the deep state that is disturbed with an assertive disruptor like Trump and ultra Left who seem to have taken over Democrats? This is the danger, much above the issue of who is more Hindu friendly or India friendly. BLM led by self certified Marxists and fully supported by Islamists is the alarming call for voters in USA who believe in real democracy, everything else is secondary. The violence is being justified, hate is being justified. Indians in USA need to think of this critical factor.

 

With warm regards,

Ratan Sharda

 

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From: Arish Sahani <arish....@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Ramesh ji's call to Gujaratis to support Biden/Kamala
To: Satya D <hita...@gmail.com>

 

 

HINDUS DO NOT HAVE TO READ PAST HISTORY WHY HINDUS SUFFERED AND WERE SLAVES .

 

TODAY ACT OF R. SHAH IS A GREAT EXAMPLE HOW ONE PERSON WHOM WE SUPPORTED AND GIVE HIM LIFT BECOMES  ANTI HINDU AND WORKS LIKE A TRAITOR AND SUPPORTS CANDIDATE LIKE BIDEN AND HERISH ANTI NATIONAL AND SUPPORTERS  OF ISLAM .

 

HOW ISLAM DESTROYED 56 NATIONS IN MIDDLEEAST AND AFRICA NO ONE CARES FOR THESE CONVERTS ANY MORE NOT EVEN ARABS WHO CONVERTED THEM.

 

HINDUS DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE ANTI NATIONAL ANTI HINDU LEADERS WHO HAVE HINDU NAMES .

 

HINDU IS AN  INTELLIGENT RACE . THEY ARE PROBLEM SOLVERS.

 

TODAY EVERY NATION IS SUFFERING DUE TO LEFTIST IDEAS .

 

NATIONALISM IS ONE SURE SOLUTION .

 

PRESIDENT TRUMP MESSAGE ' MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN "

" SECURED BORDER'

 IS A CORRECT MESSAGE TO SAVE YOUR FUTURE AND YOUR CHILDREN .

ARISH SAHANI

 

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From: Mahendra Sapa <mahend...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Ramesh ji's call to Gujaratis to support Biden/Kamala
To: Arish Sahani <arish....@gmail.com>

 

This is going to sound very rude, but it's time to separate out Jai Chands.

 

Mahendra

"Take Risks in your life"  if you win, you can lead!  if you Lose, You can Guide..

 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:34 AM Souptik Mukherjee <soup...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 3:02 PM Madhav Nalapat <mdna...@gmail.com> wrote:

Amazing that NONE of the officers active in the 1990s plot to
eliminate the cryogenic engine program have been proceeded against,
while many have enjoyed stellar careers despite doing the dirty work
of the CIA

Madhav

On 9/11/20, Souptik Mukherjee <soup...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Collected from Social Media
>
> Fact:
> Joe Biden in 1990’s came up with Biden amendment which forced Russia to
> stop exporting cryogenic engine technology to Indi

 

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Namaste Jatinder ji,  

I am not sure why you attribute me to calling Ramesh Shah ji with the terms you wrote in your response.   I never used nor will I use such terms.  What I  pointed out was that there are untruths in his article against Trump and posted the responses made by several members of community to his article.

I also read all the three attachments in your email.   I think you are very naive.   The problem is not necessarily with Biden but who will control Biden.  Biden and for that matter democratic party is being used by establishment to bring down Trump, who they see as threat to their interests.   Even otherwise, Biden history is of little comfort to India.  Please read my posting given below that was send only yesterday to another group on Biden.

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Subject: [aryayouthgroup] "China will attack India on the very day Biden win is declared"
To: <unitedhi...@googlegroups.com>, <aryayou...@yahoogroups.com>, Stop Corruption Worldwide <stop-corrupt...@googlegroups.com>


 

Yesterday I went to a fundraiser for a Republican candidate in Bensalem, PA,  Brian Fitzpatrick,  organized by a local Hindu American activist.   Brian has been a long time republican and has good rapport with Hindu American community.  I understand he even attended, 'Howdy Modi' program and attended an one hour meeting with Narendra Modi at that time. 

One of the attendees at the program said an interesting thing.  He said, 'the day Biden wins, China will attack India again'.  He said, 'China will continue to test India's will and in case of a larger confrontation with India, the best Biden would do is to stay neutral'.    Whether this would play out the way he is saying remains to be seen, but the article below is something we all should pay attention to.   It says how deep Biden's connections are to China, the favors his son got etc.,  

Watch what Biden/Kamala are saying in debates and other places, that Trump china policy is wrong and it hurts the American economy and tariffs and other steps Trump took against China is wrong.   But in reality, this is the 'establishment' that made billions talking with these people as the front.   What makes it worse with Biden/Harris is, as the article below says, Biden has helped the rise of  China from the beginning, his son Hunter has shady deals with CCP.  Kamala of course, is basically for sale to the highest bidder.  

It is all about money.  While they still may tread carefully with respect to China relation to the US,  one place they can easily get away is to care less, perhaps not to give a damn other than some lip service, if China clashes with India.    It can even get uglier, they can even turn to old time politics of funding Pakistan while staying silent on China at the same time.  Biden, of course, is the biggest friend of Pakistan who was honored with the prestigious title of Pakistan, 'the crescent of Pakistan' and he funded 1.5 billion dollars per year.   

Interesting times ahead for India.   What next?  Rahul Gandhi for India PM, if not next term may be after???   Just so that we in the US do not miss the action, we could be going  back to seeing regular 'Obama time' Islamic terror attacks on US soil, with Biden reinstating what Obama did, shackling security agencies surveillance.   

'Establishment' is the King!!!!  Long live the Establishment.












Regards,
Satya

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:35 PM jatinder kumar <jk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Satyaji, Arunji and other Bandhus:

 

I was shocked to read allegations of Ramesh Shah being a Desh Drohi or anti national .  To put it mildly, these allegations reflect the highest level of naivety.  Rameshji has done more for India than all the friends who call him a Desh Drohi.  He and his family have also done tremendous work for Hindus, India, USA and humanity. Calling him a Desh Drohi is a great dis-service to Hindus and India. You may disagree with Rameshji's comments, however, calling him a liar is absolutely wrong.

 

As a citizen and voter of the USA, Rameshji has all the right to endorse and vote for a candidate.  Although, I do not agree with his comments about Trump, in a democratic country, he is free to express his opinion about Biden and Trump.  Attached is my article about Biden published in the Daily Guardian, India about Biden whom I had known since 1974 when he first got elected to the U.S. Senate. Also attached is another article about Biden published in the Times of India. Based on my frequent interactions with him, in spite of some apprehensions about Biden, I believe he will also be good for India; may not be as good as Trump.  Please learn democratic values and respect freedom of expression even though you may not agree with some.

 

All who have known and have worked with Rameshji respect him highly.  Again, he and his family are generous and no other Indian family come close to his family in helping India.


Also attaching a couple of articles related to Biden and one related to Middle East.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Jitendra



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Subject: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 

jatinder kumar

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Dear Satyaji, Arunji and other Bandhus:

 

I was shocked to read allegations of Ramesh Shah being a Desh Drohi or anti national .  To put it mildly, these allegations reflect the highest level of naivety.  Rameshji has done more for India than all the friends who call him a Desh Drohi.  He and his family have also done tremendous work for Hindus, India, USA and humanity. Calling him a Desh Drohi is a great dis-service to Hindus and India. You may disagree with Rameshji's comments, however, calling him a liar is absolutely wrong.

 

As a citizen and voter of the USA, Rameshji has all the right to endorse and vote for a candidate.  Although, I do not agree with his comments about Trump, in a democratic country, he is free to express his opinion about Biden and Trump.  Attached is my article about Biden published in the Daily Guardian, India about Biden whom I had known since 1974 when he first got elected to the U.S. Senate. Also attached is another article about Biden published in the Times of India. Based on my frequent interactions with him, in spite of some apprehensions about Biden, I believe he will also be good for India; may not be as good as Trump.  Please learn democratic values and respect freedom of expression even though you may not agree with some.

 

All who have known and have worked with Rameshji respect him highly.  Again, he and his family are generous and no other Indian family come close to his family in helping India.


Also attaching a couple of articles related to Biden and one related to Middle East.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Jitendra



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I very strongly disagree with the title of this email chain. Ramesh Shah Ji is a very highly dedicated nationalist who has spent his life time fighting for Indian and Hindu causes. I have known him for decades and can vouch for his extremely high moral character.

In election years, there are strong opinions and passions on both sides but everyone should be free to decide for themselves.

The discuss is healthy but slandering any one by putting their name with the word lies should be immediately removed.   

Thanks and regards,
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Subject: Re: [aryasamajonline] Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses
 
Please remove me from your email chain.
Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah......
Namaste.
Ramesh Shah

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 5:13 AM Gupchand Badri <gba...@hotmail.com> wrote:

SATYA BAI,

With all these evidences we are in deep, deep trouble. OH MY GOD. These 2 biden and fake kamala are continue Obama legacy to destroyed the world and the hate for hindus, look at harris she is HALF south Indian but claimed to black, and all these evidences showing Hindus are targeted. Biden call blacks predators yet kamala ignore this and selling herself to be vice prez. But the dems real reason if they won will claim dingbat biden insane and she will sworn in as the first black woman prez. Can you see this nightmare. This lunatic, who put more blacks in jail for minor infractions and now is releasing them to travel around the country to create trouble. Yes saabji this is how the world is running with clowns like these.

Is Modi doing anything to wipe out Nehru blunders to India and take down his statue and destroyed it

 

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What is fake news Sir.  Did you even read the article Anand ji posted or the presentation I posted and challenge anything being said  based on facts other than responding 'fake news'.   Congress, Senate are all talking about Hunter Biden expose.   That is fake news and what you think in your head is true news.  This is insanity.

 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:24 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Please stop spreading fake news and please remove my name from this list.

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020, 11:20 PM, Satya D hita...@gmail.com [IAMUC] <IAMUC-...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Anand ji,

 

I hope Hindu Americans see what you and others who see the writing on the wall are speaking.   Most (or maybe almost all) of us had all been democrats for decades but now we see a very perceptible danger.   The tone and harshness of some people to these emails without giving little time to the arguments put forth is disheartening.    

 

Please see this presentation which is also another big eye opener to what you said in your email.    

Link:

 

 

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Regards,

Satya

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On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:05 PM Anand Sharma <akshar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Validating what I have been saying about Joe Biden's corruption. If we vote for such a dishonest person and if Chinese or Muslims pay him bribe to harm India -

 

You intelligent people decide whether he will uphold the moral and spiritual values of India or assist our enemies in their quest to destroy us.  

 

alt

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is investigating newly released emails that reveal that Hunter Biden introduced his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings in 2015 at Hunter's request. 

 

Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

 


I have been in North America for 52 years and have been a close associate and friend of Ramesh Shah Ji for decades.

 

Together, we have been on many missions of National and Hindu importance. We have held demonstrations whenever some organizations went way overboard, manned many community stalls, organized community meetings, participated in Radio and TV programs in USA in the Seva of Bharat Mata etc. etc.

 

As most of you know, Ramesh Shah ji's dedication and sacrifices for Bharat Mata Ji is beyond parallel and if we differ with him on a point or two, allowing it to take away anything from his lifelong dedicated service, will be highly immoral. Any of our differences on a particular topic should be on basis of merit and merit only.

 

Having said that, I very strongly disagree with Ramesh Shah Ji's advice to vote democrat. All Indians should vote for Trump and Republicans. President Trump is the best friend of India ever. Democrats are corrupt people that are ruining America very fast. Our children and grandchildren should be proud of the country they have emigrated to after giving up their native country and the divine culture, not be ashamed of it.   

 

Trump has built the best economy ever and is protecting US, like no one before, from enemies of US, both foreign and domestic. He is single handedly fighting the whole world alone, against highly unfair trade practices against US and illegal aliens flooding the country.

 

After having a big lifelong heartburn of seeing the US Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, supply the latest military weapons and lavish financial aid to the enemy, terrorist country of Pakistan, TRUMP is the first American President who has almost stopped all financial and military aid to Pakistan.

 

Obama enjoyed the festivities of being the chief guest at India's republic day parade, came back and increased the military aid to Pakistan 6 times.

 

Democrats and Joe Biden, their nominee for president, are extremely low character swamp, corrupt people, a blot on the noble name of USA and this election is the lowest moral campaign in US history with total made up lies from democrats, tragically supported by corrupt media. 

 

Democrats have fallen so low that their leaders in democratically supported states are deliberately allowing their cities and businesses to burn, many innocents to be hurt and killed, including small children, women raped, in the hope that they can blame it all on Trump and win elections, that they cannot do on merit. Democrats and corrupt media have joined hands to spread total, baseless lies about Trump, have been trying to unseat a duly elected President for more than 4 years even before the previous elections.

 

Democrats and rich owners of media are doing it because they are getting richer by selling America to Chinese and others and that means they are ruining the US forever for our next generations.   

 

There are so many examples of Media/Democrats corruption. Narrating 2 Biden episodes below:

 

Biden goes to China. Rides along his son Hunter Biden (kicked out of army for drug use) on Air Force 2. Hunter meets many Chinese business executives, totally out of protocol. Introduces some to Joe Biden, TOTALLY ILLEGAL. China invests 1.4 billion dollars in a company in which Hunter Biden has interest. Chinese are no fools, in return, they get to dump hundreds of billions of cheaply made Chinese goods in US with virtually no tariff. Big losers, US economy and tens of thousands of jobs lost in US.

 

Example 2 - Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Ukraine gets billions of dollars of hard working Americans' tax money as aid.

 

One Ukraine prosecutor starts to investigate corruption. Joe Biden has him fired, threatening to withhold aid and brags about it on national TV. Next thing we know is that Hunter Biden with no Oil or Gas experience, is elected to the board of directors of a major Ukraine gas company, Burisma, and is paid $50,000/month as salary.

 

Ramesh Shah Ji, please revise and correct your recommendation.      

 

Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma

 

Dear Satyaji, Arunji and other Bandhus:

 

I was shocked to read allegations of Ramesh Shah being a Desh Drohi or anti national .  To put it mildly, these allegations reflect the highest level of naivety.  Rameshji has done more for India than all the friends who call him a Desh Drohi.  He and his family have also done tremendous work for Hindus, India, USA and humanity. Calling him a Desh Drohi is a great dis-service to Hindus and India. You may disagree with Rameshji's comments, however, calling him a liar is absolutely wrong.

 

As a citizen and voter of the USA, Rameshji has all the right to endorse and vote for a candidate.  Although, I do not agree with his comments about Trump, in a democratic country, he is free to express his opinion about Biden and Trump.  Attached is my article about Biden published in the Daily Guardian, India about Biden whom I had known since 1974 when he first got elected to the U.S. Senate. Also attached is another article about Biden published in the Times of India. Based on my frequent interactions with him, in spite of some apprehensions about Biden, I believe he will also be good for India; may not be as good as Trump.  Please learn democratic values and respect freedom of expression even though you may not agree with some.

 

All who have known and have worked with Rameshji respect him highly.  Again, he and his family are generous and no other Indian family come close to his family in helping India.

 

Also attaching a couple of articles related to Biden and one related to Middle East.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Jitendra

 

Sir,

 

>>  'Both have positive and negative points'

 

Please do not speak with knowing facts.  '  Please educate me in what respect Biden/Kamala will help in our mother nation or in our adopted nation.   Yes, Trump may not be sensitive to the environment and it is an issue which is more passive.   He may even seem to give fuel to racism to whites who feel insecure in becoming an increasing minority.  However, in issues that directly affect us immensely, we have a sea of difference.  I was a democrat for most of my life, it is time we as a community not to get carried away by corporate media propaganda with its own agenda and see through things and make the right choice.   Here are some points:

 

1) The anti-India statements of both Biden/Kalama against Kashmir, CAA and Article 370, spell danger for our motherland India especially when we have a real threat from China/Pakistan.

 

2) On the other hand, during the recent clash with China, US President sent  US Nimitz warship to support India.   During the last 70 years of independence, did India get any support and here is the President on his own offering to not just help, sending out to support a possible larger invasion.   Even during 1962, Nehru had to fall in feet of the US Ambassador and beg for help to stop China.     All these years, all Presidents from both aisles supported arming Pakistan that caused enormous loss of lives and livelihood with the principle of 'death by thousand cuts'.

 

3) Do you really want Islam to be taught in Schools, to your children and grandchildren?  Do you want to go back to those days during Obama where Islamic terrorists had free reign in the US targeting many people and killing them?

 

4) Have you heard of 'Biden Amendment' as a senator how Biden stopped Cryogenic technology badly needed for India (see the complete list of the virulent anti-India movements of democratic party below and you will be shocked!!)

 

5) Do you want Pakistan to be armed again and kill our people, our soldiers?   After Trump came he completely stopped the funding and took them head-on.   If Biden comes back he will arm Pakistan and force India to buy more arms to face a stronger Pakistan, in addition to china threat.

 

6) Do you want to burn down our cities and what kind of country you want to leave for our children and grandchildren?   Do you want leftists and arsonists to come and destroy your business and your homes?

 

7) Do you really think Biden who got favors from China will go after China?  See the email below from Anand Sharma ji on how his son was benefited from China.    On the contrary, how much Trump pushed back against their mercenary trade practices.   What future do you think your children and grandchildren will have if most jobs are taken away, our technology is stolen and makes us obsolete?

 

8) Do you know he is the only President who openly supports Hindu Americans and India and backs it with actions unlike the lip service or even directly antagonistic (like Clintons) of those who came before him.

 

Let us put our head and not talk nonsense sitting in armchairs without giving issue proper thought.  A vote is a precious and sacred right, it needs a thorough analysis, not because some media said it, not because I said, you have a responsibility to objectively analyze and see the facts for yourself because while we vote individually, we are also affecting the collective.   

 

No one is saying Trump is an ideal candidate but in elections we are forced to make choices but given where we are in history  it is suicidal to not to think through this and not act wisely.

 

Here is some more data if you are interested that was already propagated.

 

Excellent interview of a Georgia Democratic congressman who happened to speak in support of Trump at Republican party conventions.   Watch carefully what he is saying.

President who has almost stopped all financial and military aid to Pakistan........... Obama enjoyed the festivities of being the chief guest at India's republic day parade, came back and increased the military aid to Pakistan 6 times.


Democrats and Joe Biden, their nominee for president, are extremely low character swamp, corrupt people, a blot on the noble name of USA and this election is the lowest moral campaign in US history with total made up lies from democrats, tragically supported by corrupt media. 

 

Democrats have fallen so low that their leaders in democratically supported states are deliberately allowing their cities and businesses to burn, many innocents to be hurt and killed, including small children, women raped, in the hope that they can blame it all on Trump and win elections, that they cannot do on merit. Democrats and corrupt media have joined hands to spread total, baseless lies about Trump, have been trying to unseat a duly elected President for more than 4 years even before the previous elections.

 

Democrats and rich owners of media are doing it because they are getting richer by selling America to Chinese and others and that means they are ruining the US forever for our next generations...   

 

There are so many examples of Media/Democrats corruption. Narrating 2 Biden episodes below:

 


Biden goes to China. Rides along his son Hunter Biden (kicked out of army for drug use) on Air Force 2. Hunter meets many Chinese business executives, totally out of protocol. Introduces some to Joe Biden, TOTALLY ILLEGAL. China

invests 1.4 billion dollars in a company in which Hunter Biden has interest. Chinese are no fools, in return, they get to dump hundreds of billions of cheaply made Chinese goods in US with virtually no tariff. Big losers, US economy and tens of thousands of jobs lost in US.

 

 

Example 2 - Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Ukraine gets billions of dollars of hard working Americans' tax money as aid.

 

One Ukraine prosecutor starts to investigate corruption. Joe Biden has him fired, threatening to withhold aid and brags about it on national TV. Next thing we know is that Hunter Biden with no Oil or Gas experience, is elected

to the board of directors of a major Ukraine gas company, Burisma, and is paid $50,000/month as salary.

 


Ramesh Shah Ji, please revise and correct your recommendation.      


Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

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Subject: Re: [IndianVoice] Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses

 

Folks who support Trump - have their own Finances at Stake. It’s all about how much they will save on Taxes if Trump wins and how much they loose with Biden. 

Trump is good for very rich and India. 

But has no moral values and is totally corrupt.

He will be unleashed crook in the second term.

If he looses he will

Go from White House to Rikers Island ! NY US attorneys are waiting

Watch !

Rumor has it that if Trump looses he  will

Resign and Pence becomes POTUS. Pence will then pardon Trump.

Best to all 

 



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On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 8:08 PM, Devendra Singh deven...@hotmail.com [IndianVoice] <IndianVoi...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I think the views of Dr. Reddy are grossly misinformed. The candidates we select are only good for four years, so it's difficult to look beyond that. The issue Bharat faces will continue to exist after four or the next 20 years, but Biden is more likely to complicate the issues as he and Ms. Harris have publicly supported Pakistan and Biden has made a video appealing for Muslim votes. Ms. Harris is a ploy to fool gullible Hindus. Trump has at least kept his mouth shut on the Kashmir issue and has backed Modi. He didn't say a controversial word during his last trip to India, while it has been a tradition of past US Presidents to wrongly admonish India on its human rights records.

 

I fail to understand how the election of Biden/Harris is good for the world, including India. There are no ethical and moral values in politics. It's only extracting the best deal from your opponent. I would still put Trump ahead in marks even in moral and ethical values that seem very important to you. 

 

Trump has his own issues and I agree there is no clean winning choice in this election. It's a choice between the bad and the worse. I believe Biden is the worse candidate. A strong President will be good for India and given his chemistry with Modi, I think India can extract more from Trump than Biden. Democrats have gone too far to the left and this party has been hijacked by the socialists and Islamists that is extremely dangerous to US. I expect a limited war to break out between India and China in the next few weeks. This will also involve Pakistan. Trump will more likely to support India in countering China than Biden.

 

I hope you change your views before the election and do the fund raising for Trump instead.

 

Devendra

 

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Regards,
Satya

 

 

SOME MORE RESPONSES BELOW FROM COMMUNITY BELOW AGAINST RAMESH SHAH JI' ARTICLE

 

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From: Ratan Sharda <rnsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Ramesh ji's call to Gujaratis to support Biden/Kamala
To: Satya D <hita...@gmail.com>

 

Cearly, Indian society in USA is in ferment. The debate I see and saw in the publication below clearly tell us that Hindus are divided into traditionalist Democrats and others who have grown out of it. I see a similarity between compulsive habitual Congress voters who slowly and reluctantly realised how Congress was destroying Hindu culture and society in the name of secularism.  I have enjoyed the lively debate. But, end of the day - Biden and Kamala have clearly stood with Pakistan view point on Kashmir which for India is a question of civilisational survival. 

 

I will not get into debate, I can only observe as I stay in India. But, I must say, I saw a clip, not the edited but full 5-6 minutes of Biden having conversation with some ladies on TV. I was aghast at his inability to form one coherent sentence in entire conversation. He seemed lost in forming sentences or his ideas. This is most dangerous and risky for a nation  that is still the biggest power in the world. Will he be his own man or will he be a screen for the deep state that is disturbed with an assertive disruptor like Trump and ultra Left who seem to have taken over Democrats? This is the danger, much above the issue of who is more Hindu friendly or India friendly. BLM led by self certified Marxists and fully supported by Islamists is the alarming call for voters in USA who believe in real democracy, everything else is secondary. The violence is being justified, hate is being justified... Indians in USA need to think of this critical factor.

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Namaste

Ramesh Shah

Satya D

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Go ahead, elect another India's 'Congress party' type candidate, we left India for better opportunities for ourselves and we are going to sit back while US is being made into another 'India' we left decades ago 
 ... 

What is worse is also gross debauchery of his son with whom father Biden was engaging in corruption.

Regards,
Satya

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:48 PM Satya D <hita...@gmail.com> wrote:
My god!!! It is not what they say but what they did.  Have you read Swarajya mag, a patriotic portal said on what Trump ‘did’ during recent clash with China?  On the other hand what is the ‘Biden Amendment’ that Biden blocked badly needed cryogenic fuel for ISRO?  Talk is cheap, go by record of Biden 40+ years and that of Trump  4- years.

Listen to this from Major Gaurav Arya ....  we are really stupid to listen to  CNN and make decisions.   CNN is the same channel which indicated Hindus eat their own shit and drink their own urine and you trust that trash!!

Major Guarav Arya speech on actions speak louder than words and how Trump showed with his action (w.r.t India)

1) Donald Trump is a man who is kinder when it comes to actions and Obama is a man who is kinder when it comes to words.  Please do not believe in the words of men, especially the men in power, believe in their actions.

2) Every time you vote for these people, they jeopardise India's territorial  integrity, they jeopardize India's security, they jeopardize India's sovereignty and I will tell you how they do it.

3) Your party does it, exactly the East India Company did it 250 years ago.   They feel that it is the right of the white man to interfere in the business of the brown man.

4) India is our business and we will take care of it as we see fit.  When the chinese attacked our forces in Galwan, it was President Trump who sent those warships to the South China Sea, it was he who sent  the carrier group, it was he who sent the B-52 bombers.  I may not agree with all of Trump's politics, but as an Indian, I will see who was standing with me when my country's integrity and my country's sovereignty was in peril.   That is what I will see.   



Here is Trump accomplishments - it is mind boggling, notwithstanding how he present himself.:


"Well, tell us — what is it about Trump that you dislike? 

Do you dislike that he directed the brokering of the first meaningful Mideast peace deal in decades? 
Do you dislike that he made cruelty to animals a felony? or don’t you care? 
Do you dislike that he earmarked billions to stop the opioid crisis? 
He destroyed ISIS, killed countless terrorists without going to war (even though everyone said we’d be in World War III by now) and kept the peace. Do you dislike that? 
Does it bother you that we’re now energy independent and the largest producer of energy in the world?  
Do you dislike him because he started to build a wall to keep criminals and drugs from coming into our country and because he respects, honors and defends our country’s borders? 
Do you dislike him because he just slashed the price for prescription drugs (In some cases by 50%) which is driving Big Pharma nuts? 
Do you dislike that he met with the leader of North Korea, averted war with that country and brought a halt to their aggressive missile testing? Was that wrong?  
Do you dislike that he signed a law ending the gag-order on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving options on prescriptions?   
Do you dislike that he signed the Save Our Seas Act which funds millions per year to clean tons of plastic and garbage from the ocean? Does that bother you? 
Do you dislike that he signed a bill for airports to provide breast-feeding stations for nursing moms? 
Do you dislike that he signed the biggest wilderness protection and conservation bill in a decade designating 375,000 acres as protected land, making him the most significant conservation president since Teddy Roosevelt? 
Does it irk you that he loves America, and puts Americans first? Is that the problem? 
Do you dislike that he made a gay man the ambassador to Germany and then asked him to clean up national security, declassifying as much of it as possible for transparency? 
Do you dislike that he works for free, donating his salary to a different charity each quarter? 
Do you dislike that his economic policies have produced the lowest Black unemployment rate ever? 
Do you dislike that he listened to Senator Tim Scott and created opportunity zones to help minorities? 
Do you dislike that he passed prison reform, which gives people a second chance and has made quite a huge difference for minorities in particular? 
Do you dislike that he produced the lowest Hispanic unemployment rate ever? 
Do you dislike that he passed VA reforms to benefit the very people who served our country and defended our freedom? 
Do you dislike that he got rid of the job-killing NAFTA trade deal, got tough on trade with China and negotiated new trade deals with Mexico, Canada and other countries that benefit American workers? 
Do you dislike that he loves our flag and embraces a policy of unabashed, non-apologetic patriotism? Do you have a problem with that? 
Do you dislike that he calls out the media and attempts to correct them when they are wrong? 
Do you dislike that he’s bringing troops home and ending America’s longest war? Do you want the war to continue?  
Do you dislike that he has made a commitment to end child-trafficking and crimes against humanity and his policies have brought about thousands of arrests already? 
Do you dislike that he extended the offshore drilling ban along both Florida coasts as well as the coasts of Georgia and South Carolina? Are you bothered by that?  
Do you dislike he’s brought home over 40 Americans held captive, the last one from Iran? 
Or do you dislike that he’s making the world pay their fair share to the United Nations? 
Do you dislike that he respects cops, veterans, ICE and all first responders?  
Do you dislike that he does not sell out America to other countries, like the leaders prior to him have done? 
Do you dislike that he’s forced our NATO allies and others to finally pay their fair share to support important multi-national alliances? 
Do you dislike that he moved our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem which is the rightful capital of the Jewish state? 
Do you dislike that he signed the Right To Try law allowing terminally ill patients access to experimental therapies? 
This list is hardly a complete list of what President Trump has accomplished in four years. 
There’s actually more — a lot more.  
But hopefully, you get the idea.  
 Nobody is asking you to love President Trump. Nobody is asking you to be his best friend. In fact, you don’t even have to like him. 
But just take a moment to give this some mature thought and you’ll find that you’d be less than fair and honest if you did not recognize all that he’s accomplished for America — often against overwhelming odds and with powerful special interests aligned against him. 
So, try to put aside emotionalism and arbitrary and capricious preferences for now, avoid the temptation to demonize the president and focus on who’s really effective; who has the vision, stamina and determination to do the job; who gets things done and who’s going to continue to solve our problems and keep America on the right track moving forward."



On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:06 AM Raman Khanna <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hari Om, I would just like to point out a few things:

1. Biden has repeatedly said that he considers India to be a key partner of America (see eg: https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/india-to-be-key-partner-in-joe-biden-administration-top-campaign-official-1711773-2020-08-16 )
This is far more important than ill-considered but minor, toothless criticisms of CAA or 370 abrogation. America's strategic interest is not at all with Pakistan and it is seeking to limit China's influence. That is a bipartisan position.

2. Voting in an American election purely based on what is (wrongly) perceived to be good for India is not at all appropriate. However much you love India, if you are settled in the US as either a born or naturalized citizen, prioritizing another country to the exclusion of all other issues--including the absolute devastation that the current administration has allowed to be wreaked upon this country from Coronavirus--is just one step from being seen as loyal to a foreign country over America. I hope that is never the position of anyone on this list! It is in fact something that Hindus consistently criticize about other minorities when their perceived loyalties are elsewhere.

3. The most important thing for limiting the influence of China and its client states (including Pakistan) in the world is a strong America that is a beacon of democracy (like India) which honors its words. No one believes any more that American can be trusted to do anything or to keep its words--ask the Kurds, ask Hong Kong, ask our allies as regards Iran, ask South Korea. Trump has created a vacuum of leadership that will take decades to repair, and hastened our decline as providing an antidote to Chinese authoritarianism. If he is re-elected, it will reinforce the image of America as a worthless ally.

Just my 2 cents.

Raman Khanna


On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:30 AM Pandita Indrani Rampersad पंडिता इंद्राणी रामपरसाद i_ram...@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinduciv...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks Ramesh Shah. Indians need to vote strategically - locally, nationally, and globally. Clearly, there is one side that is anti-India and another that is more pro-India.
I don't see a conflict here at all. Only thing is this ---- we deserve the government we get when we don't think critically.

Dr Pandita Indrani Rampersad
Whatsapp: +(868) 7591804



On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 09:37:36 AM GMT-4, Ramesh Shah <rames...@ekal.org> wrote:


Dear Dr. Padita Indrani Rampersad and All,
Namaskar.
We must think of this Nation, its Democracy, value and Character. Individuals like you and me make National characters. Jai Shri Ram. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah....
Let us now vote to our inner voice.
Namaste.
Ramesh Shah


On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 5:11 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

GOP Sen. Sasse unleashes scathing attack on Trump, 'TV-obsessed' narcissist: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1243701



On Oct 17, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Pandita Indrani Rampersad पंडिता इंद्राणी रामपरसाद <i_ram...@yahoo.com> wrote:

  

how is the biden-kamala duo likely to treat Pakistan, china, and India? When I answered that question, I chose Trump.

Dr Pandita Indrani Rampersad
Whatsapp: +(868) 7591804



On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 11:41:39 AM GMT-4, Krishna Reddy penn...@msn.com [IAMUC] <iamuc-...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Please stop this type of language. We have done our due diligence and we do what is good for the country. 

We will never vote for the most corrupt and dangerous person created in this world. Read his niece opinion of him. Read Cohen book. Try listening Bob Woodwork's tapes. Open your mind.

So many Republicans are with me voting for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden...  So many cabinet secretaries from previous Republican governments are voting for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. 

Cindy McCain is campaigning. Powell is with us and many more.

Please take my email from this nonsense and
try adjusting for Biden presidency starting January 20th 2021.

Krishna Reddy,  MD; MBA

 
 
 



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Subject: RE: [aryasamajonline] Re: [scw] let us vote wisely - Re: [IAMUC] Ramesh Shah lies against Trump & community responses

GO Ahead and put it where you want Dr. as if I care. And to call yourself a Dr. and  become blind to the fact biden called Black Predators and he said if you are not Black you are not voting for him. And that one jailed more blacks than anyone and she even called biden a racist but being in power is more important. Some Dr you are, hope you are not a medical one as it would be ashamed to see you touching anyone. HA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Please remove our email. 

 We have already voted for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. 

 

I will your email in spam from now on!

 

Dr Krishna Reddy 

 

 

 

 

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Date: 10/16/20 12:48 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: Satya D <hita...@gmail.com>, Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com>

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Absolutely,

With all these evidences how is possible not to see or open your eyes or minds.  It is a damn shame and a sad moment in human history to see the clods, amongst us. Hence idiots and intelligence

You can’t open closed minds!!!!

 

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:38 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

There is no one more corrupt than Trump in the entire world. Not even Modi..

 

Please stop misguiding people.




On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 12:34 PM, Anand Sharma <akshar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

You have my commitment that whatever news I post here is as thoroughly researched as humanly possible. Every one's time is very valuable.

 

I had posted a few weeks ago how Biden is thoroughly corrupt and mentioned examples of Ukraine and China. Being the Vice President, he could not take bribes directly, so took it through his son, the same technique applied by some of our leaders from yester-years.  

 

Now reports are coming out verifying exactly what I said. These reports are not from a third party but from the actual hard drive of Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden. 

 

There are only 3 weeks left in the US elections and all of the people residing in US have a moral responsibility to know the full facts before voting.

 

We are a very small part of USA so probably our votes may not mean much but sometimes a few votes may mean big difference in close elections. 

 

A short reminder of history - in 50's, 60's, there was a life and death struggle between US and USSR for survival called cold war. America created many pacts SEATO, CENTO etc. in Asia which Pakistan joined but we remained nonaligned. 

 

As a result, US policy became heavily tilted in favor of Pakistan. Pakistan has received enormous amounts of US Military and Financial aid which has been used to kill large number of Indian civilians and military. Pakistan and China are our evil mortal enemies.

 

TRUMP IS THE ONLY USA PRESIDENT TO REVERSE THAT TREND AND LARGELY STOP MILITARY AND FINANCIAL AID TO PAKISTAN. IT IS UPTO US ALL TO RESPOND TO THIS RARE POSITIVE GESTURE OR IF HE WINS,HE MAY ALSO BECOME LIKE THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS.     

 

Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

 

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When I say fake news; what I mean is manipulative, deceptive, fake propaganda, demagoguery, divisive etc.

 

On Oct 14, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Satya D <hita...@gmail.com> wrote:



What is fake news Sir.  Did you even read the article Anand ji posted or the presentation I posted and challenge anything being said  based on facts other than responding 'fake news'..   Congress, Senate are all talking about Hunter Biden expose.   That is fake news and what you think in your head is true news.  This is insanity.

 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:24 PM Amit Parikh <arp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Please stop spreading fake news and please remove my name from this list.


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On Wednesday, October 14, 2020, 11:20 PM, Satya D hita...@gmail.com [IAMUC] <IAMUC-...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Anand ji,

 

I hope Hindu Americans see what you and others who see the writing on the wall are speaking.   Most (or maybe almost all) of us had all been democrats for decades but now we see a very perceptible danger.   The tone and harshness of some people to these emails without giving little time to the arguments put forth is disheartening.    

 

Please see this presentation which is also another big eye opener to what you said in your email.    

Link:

 

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide1-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide2-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide3-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide4-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide5-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

http://www.satyablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Slide6-Biden-and-Hindu-Americans.jpg

 

 

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Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

 

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I have been in North America for 52 years and have been a close associate and friend of Ramesh Shah Ji for decades.

 

Together, we have been on many missions of National and Hindu importance. We have held demonstrations whenever some organizations went way overboard, manned many community stalls, organized community meetings, participated in Radio and TV programs in USA in the Seva of Bharat Mata etc. etc.

 

As most of you know, Ramesh Shah ji's dedication and sacrifices for Bharat Mata Ji is beyond parallel and if we differ with him on a point or two, allowing it to take away anything from his lifelong dedicated service, will be highly immoral. Any of our differences on a particular topic should be on basis of merit and merit only.

 

Having said that, I very strongly disagree with Ramesh Shah Ji's advice to vote democrat. All Indians should vote for Trump and Republicans. President Trump is the best friend of India ever. Democrats are corrupt people that are ruining America very fast. Our children and grandchildren should be proud of the country they have emigrated to after giving up their native country and the divine culture, not be ashamed of it.   

 

Trump has built the best economy ever and is protecting US, like no one before, from enemies of US, both foreign and domestic. He is single handedly fighting the whole world alone, against highly unfair trade practices against US and illegal aliens flooding the country.

 

After having a big lifelong heartburn of seeing the US Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, supply the latest military weapons and lavish financial aid to the enemy, terrorist country of Pakistan, TRUMP is the first American President who has almost stopped all financial and military aid to Pakistan.

 

Obama enjoyed the festivities of being the chief guest at India's republic day parade, came back and increased the military aid to Pakistan 6 times.

 

Democrats and Joe Biden, their nominee for president, are extremely low character swamp, corrupt people, a blot on the noble name of USA and this election is the lowest moral campaign in US history with total made up lies from democrats, tragically supported by corrupt media. 

 

Democrats have fallen so low that their leaders in democratically supported states are deliberately allowing their cities and businesses to burn, many innocents to be hurt and killed, including small children, women raped, in the hope that they can blame it all on Trump and win elections, that they cannot do on merit. Democrats and corrupt media have joined hands to spread total, baseless lies about Trump, have been trying to unseat a duly elected President for more than 4 years even before the previous elections.

 

Democrats and rich owners of media are doing it because they are getting richer by selling America to Chinese and others and that means they are ruining the US forever for our next generations.   

 

There are so many examples of Media/Democrats corruption. Narrating 2 Biden episodes below:

 

Biden goes to China. Rides along his son Hunter Biden (kicked out of army for drug use) on Air Force 2. Hunter meets many Chinese business executives, totally out of protocol. Introduces some to Joe Biden, TOTALLY ILLEGAL. China invests 1.4 billion dollars in a company in which Hunter Biden has interest. Chinese are no fools, in return, they get to dump hundreds of billions of cheaply made Chinese goods in US with virtually no tariff. Big losers, US economy and tens of thousands of jobs lost in US.

 

Example 2 - Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Ukraine gets billions of dollars of hard working Americans' tax money as aid.

 

One Ukraine prosecutor starts to investigate corruption. Joe Biden has him fired, threatening to withhold aid and brags about it on national TV. Next thing we know is that Hunter Biden with no Oil or Gas experience, is elected to the board of directors of a major Ukraine gas company, Burisma, and is paid $50,000/month as salary.

 

Ramesh Shah Ji, please revise and correct your recommendation.      

 

Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma

 

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Dear Satyaji, Arunji and other Bandhus:

 

I was shocked to read allegations of Ramesh Shah being a Desh Drohi or anti national .  To put it mildly, these allegations reflect the highest level of naivety.  Rameshji has done more for India than all the friends who call him a Desh Drohi.  He and his family have also done tremendous work for Hindus, India, USA and humanity. Calling him a Desh Drohi is a great dis-service to Hindus and India. You may disagree with Rameshji's comments, however, calling him a liar is absolutely wrong.

 

As a citizen and voter of the USA, Rameshji has all the right to endorse and vote for a candidate.  Although, I do not agree with his comments about Trump, in a democratic country, he is free to express his opinion about Biden and Trump.  Attached is my article about Biden published in the Daily Guardian, India about Biden whom I had known since 1974 when he first got elected to the U.S. Senate. Also attached is another article about Biden published in the Times of India. Based on my frequent interactions with him, in spite of some apprehensions about Biden, I believe he will also be good for India; may not be as good as Trump.  Please learn democratic values and respect freedom of expression even though you may not agree with some.

 

All who have known and have worked with Rameshji respect him highly.  Again, he and his family are generous and no other Indian family come close to his family in helping India.

 

Also attaching a couple of articles related to Biden and one related to Middle East.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Jitendra

 

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Satya D

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I read through the links of Trump and family corruption, they are more innuendo on corruption than real examples or cases like that of Biden and his son.  Obama didNOT reinstate the visa until Modi got elected as PM of 1.2 billion people and then he is a head of state and does not require a visa.  Obama never removed the visa block.  Obama/Biden did not join Modi in NYC in 2014 and Trump stood next to Modi.    Trump send the major warships Nimitz and Reagan in support of India after China clash with India and guess what will Biden do?  This whole discussion is mind boggling and talking to people who sit before CNN and read the news that are owned by corporate media whose interest Trump is attacking.  Obama/Biden started ISIS and Trump destroyed them.   Trillions are spend in these wars, and the corporate media do not want to end this wars because they benefit from taxpayers money, yours and mine.

Please read about the 'Biden amendment' which is real one with his own name that blocked badly needed cryogenic fuel to India's space program that set us back decades.    Biden gave aid to Pakistan of 1.5 billion per year.   What will the military do with that money?  Tell me, killing India's soldiers and supporting terrorism in India.

 The media is very polished in the West, the same media talks about article 370 as genocide of Kashmir muslims but not talk a single word about half million Kashmiri Hindus that are living as refugees in their own country for last 31 years!!!  Can you get it, they have an agenda.   On top of it, CNN ran a program showing Hindus eat their own shit and drink their own urine and kept that program even after protests in at least six cities and you trust CNN to give honest news, god save you.

Here is the work of Trump I summarized for someone.   

1. Why do you think that Indians should vote for Republic  Candidate Trump 

There are many reasons for Indian Americans to vote for Trump.   The first reason is he is perhaps the first politician in American history who delivered on all the things he promised to the electorate when he stood for elections in 2016.   And he did more.    The list is long and here are some.   

a) He destroyed ISIS started during the Obama/Biden administration that has become the largest threat to not only Americans but around the world and destroyed countless terrorists.
b) He slashed prescription prices  in some cases 50% or more, that has become burdensome for Americans, unfairly charged by Pharma making multi billion profits each year.
c) He earmarked billions to address the opioid crisis and brought it under control.
d) He started to build wall in spite of many challenges from opposition to stop criminals and uncontrolled illegal immigration cost american tax payers and jeopardizing security..
e) On environment, he signed ,'Save our Seas Act' to clear tons of plastic and garbage from ocean.
f)  he signed the biggest wildness protection and conservation bill designating 375,000 acres as protected land making him most conservation president since Teddy Roosevelt.
g) He carried out death sentence to a white supermacist on his crimes.
h) he stood up to China and saved American jobs and revived manufacturing.    
i) Lowest african and hispanic american unemployed during his rule and created opportunity zones for minorities.
j) Did prison reform help release the overwhelming number of african americans who were put into bars for non-violent crimes, due to policies of those like Senator Biden.
k) Under his regime islamic terror attacks on US Citizens and on US soil we saw under Obama/Biden that killed or attempted to kill thousands were almost wiped out.
l)  He made the world pay for their fair share for the UN and the European countries for NATO expenses.
m) Ushered middle east peace by bringing in Israel and  UAE-Bahrain
n) Got rid of job-killing NAFTA trade deal and negotiated new trade deals with Mexico, Cananda and other countries that benefit american workers.
o) Made a gay man the ambassador to Germany.
p) Passed VA reforms to benefit those who served our country.
q) When China attacked India recently, he send US military ships Nimitz and Reagan to show support which no US President has done for India.
r)  He called Pakistan bluff and stopped funding to Pakistan which is used for terrorism against India.
s) He respects those who protect us, the police, the ICE and other security personnel and is open to reforms to address a few bad apples (for example doing away with choke hold)..
t)  Offered support to States for firm action against on radical organizations like Antifa that is looting and burning down our cities (25 cities at one point)
u) He signed Right to try law allowing terminally ill patients to access experimental therapies.
v)  Blocked travellers from China as early as Jan 31st which not done in spite of democratic party opposition would have caused many more deaths.   For example Nancy Pelosi was in Chinatown in CA calling Trump xenophobic and democratic controlled congress was busy with vindictive impeachment hearings against President.
r) Multiple state Governors (like Cuomo from NY and Newsom from CA) praised federal assistance during Corona crisis.
s) took on WHO for their role in protecting China on spread of Corona.
t) Development of vaccines that is unprecedented to happen in such a short time, which was helped by Trump administration policies and support.


2. What has or have the Republic party done in the last 4 years  done for the Indian American community 

a) Indian Americans being on the top of the economic chain in US are the biggest beneficiaries of economic upscale in the US during the Trump administration.   
b) The Trump administration took very strict action against the shooter who killed an Indian American in the bar in Kansas.  The shooter was given three consecutive life sentences without any chance for parole.
c) Trump joined Indian PM Narendra Modi during the 'Howdy Modi'  event at Houston and showed his solidarity to India.   During a similar rally in 2014 at NYC, neither Obama nor Biden showed up.
d)  Biggest emotional support to Indian Americans is how President Trump came forward during the recent China attack on India where he sent prestigious US warships Nimitz and Reagan to show support to India if that escalates into a major confrontation.    With Biden connections to China and that of his son, it is very doubtful such a support would be given under Biden.
e) By calling Pakistan bluff and stopping aid to Pakistan, it had big effect on cross border terrorism from Pakistan to India.
f)  Trump called for removing the country based Green card system and asking Congress/Senate to change the way the US allocates Green cards.

3. After watching the debate, what do you think of ur candidate ? 

The debate did not go well for either candidate.   Hopefully the next debate will be better.   While we would like both candidates presented themselves better, we as voters have to gauge a candidate based on their actions, not on their words.  We know the record of Biden for 40+years and that of Trump 4- years.  Actions speak louder than words and many times words are cheap to hoodwink voters.

 4. Question on immigration the H1b visas and gc

Trump called for removing the country based Green card system and asking Congress/Senate to change the way the US allocates Green cards.   As President of this country, his first priority is US Citizens and to that effect he is addressing the fraudulent practices of few bad apples in the community which are using fake resumes, fake degrees and even fake immigration documents and   he is following to the letter the immigration law on the hiring and addressing abuse by employers firing to save costs, not for lack of skills.  
 
5. Question on Hinduism 

Trump has shown respect to Hinduism, he celebrated Diwali each year at White house, his daughter-in-law even visited Hindu Temple during last elections.  There are many Hindu Americans in his administration, for example Seema Verma, administrator for the centers for Medicaid and Medicare, Ajit Pai, chairman of FCC and others.

6. Question on how economy will be handled by whoever wins

If Trump wins, the economy will bounce back as we are seeing in just the last few weeks.  He will continue to take on China for there mercenary trade practices, strike trade deals that are not unfair to Americans and stimulate the economy.  On other hand, Biden with his multi-trillion dollar plan on energy, high taxation, blocking fracking and other steps could potentially cause a major disaster for economy.



On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:35 AM Raman Khanna <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
It is amazing to me the degree to which Trump has a real skill for projection--accusing others of the very crimes he is actively committing.

Corruption? In favor of his family? Here are just a few links:

Ivanka Trump and her Chinese Trademarks - https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727
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Regarding his "accomplishments", I don't have time to refute or contextualize all of these (though some are quite laughable--produced the lowest Hispanic unemployment ever? well what has happened since January 2020? Kind of important to include the whole record, no?), but as a physician I will just note that the degree to which the US has bungled the Coronavirus response has been nothing short of world historic. All countries around the world are laughing at us or pity us. This will have very important long term ramifications, none of them good for American influence or power when, say, America is trying to limit China or help India get a permanent seat on the UNSC.

The leader's first and most important job is to protect his Praja from all threats. Trump was very lucky that most such threats were created by him in his first 3 years. In the 4th year, his luck ran out, and ours did with him.

More people have died in America from the Pandemic than from any war the US has fought except for WWII and the Civil War. If Hillary had been in charge, you would NOT have given her a pass for even 1/3--1/10!--the number of deaths. And had she spewed nonsense about bleach and Hydroxychloroquine, you would have wanted her head.

As long as I'm here, I'll just note in response to the other person that the history of the Republican (not Republic) party is indeed a glorious one, in the era from ~1861 when it was founded to fight the expansion of slavery to the end of Reconstruction in 1877. But after that, it began to become more corporatist, and by 1965, it was the party firmly on the side of segregationists.

To put it in terms any Indian can understand, there is in the US a vote bank of racists, concentrated in the South but present everywhere in the US, to whom both parties have appealed at various times--the Democrats in the 1800s and early 1900s, the Republicans in the 1960s onward--and this vote bank has repeatedly delivered for whichever party agrees to keep minorities in their place, except for those minorities who can be leveraged, Jai Chand style, until their usefulness is at an end.

And regarding Republicans and their new-found love for India--perhaps you've forgotten that the worst killing of Hindus since Partition--Bengalis in E Pakistan in 1973--happened under a Republican President, who deliberately turned away his eyes? Or that Bush is the one who denied Modi's Visa, or that Obama was the one who reinstated it? Or that the Republican Party is the one that is trying to end all immigration, including from India, and is populated by religious fanatics who hate Hinduism just as much or more than they hate any other non-Christian religion?

To those who think Republicans will keep their interests in mind... good luck!

Raman



On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:40 AM Asha Janardhan <ajana...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Remove our name from this bureaucratic list. This group has turned to be a political group and trying to brain wash people who follow democracy in every step of its term and not support autocracy in the wildest! 

Asha

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On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Anand Sharma akshar...@hotmail.com [USBrahmins] <USBra...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

This is what I posted on my Facebook wall today.


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Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 


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Anand Sharma

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In Bhagwad Geeta, Bhawan ji has said "Do your duty and leave the result to God".

So, we have done our duty to inform people of dire consequences of Biden Presidency on Bharat Mata, its sacred land, life of its innocent and precious citizens and soldiers.

I do not know about other people but I find that Indians are very arrogant and impossible to talk to.

They will find out that they supported spilling of blood of Indians.

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 


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Anand as most already voted for the forgetful one and his power hunger south indian, oh half south indian

And are proud of their tasks – the grind on their c343434

This is so pathetic Anand it is best to talk to a dog. instead

 

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This is what I posted on my Facebook wall today.

 

 

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Thanks and regards,

Anand Sharma 

 

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Anand Sharma

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