With regard to BA's comment on economic transaction: my opinion is that
indeed there is no strict separation. Every economic transaction is a
value encounter (but not vice versa). It is a borderline case in so far
nothing is done in the value encounter itself (but is that really
possible?). Relating to the previous comment: if there is not value
activity within the encounter, and input = output.
Hans
Circles are not excluded. It is not a causal ordering in the physical
sense, but an influence relationship, and these can be self-reinforcing.
>
> * This question is somewhat unrelated to VE's, but still interesting.
> Can
> a resource, such as recognitinon be said to be 'stored' in a community
> or
> can communal resources always be modeled as emergent resources
> stemming
> from VE's?
I am not sure I get it, see below.
> The question relates to the ontology figure. In it the beneficiary of
> a
> value derivation is an agent. This is intuitively correct in the case
> a
> hospital joins a community of care takers thereby gaining recognition.
> But
> does it work in the other direction? Can a community be said to gain
> in
> recognition when an actor enrolls in it?
I see that it is perhaps a bit confusing, and I could change it into
something related. But basically, yes, a community gains in status or
whatever the more hospitals join it.
>
> I guess this question is really about the ontological status of a
> community vs. an economic agent. Reformulated, the question becomes:
> does
> non-economic agents belong in a value model?
Why not? However, I have interpreted the community here as something with
some identity, like ACM. If there is nothing more than hospitals meeting
each other, it is better to model a value encounter between hospitals
only.
> * To enroll in a recognized, high-status community (say, the ACM)
> creates
> the value 'recognition' as modeled in fig. 4. But can one also think
> about
> it as the enroller becomes 'tainted' with a resource? In the first
> case a
> resource is created, in the second case a resource is transfered.
I think this question is not as easy as it sounds. It is more than
transfer. E.g. there is a network effect.
> * In figure 4, can one also argue that the 'insurance contract' causes
> the
> 'medical treatment'?
Perhaps yes, although it might look a bit insane. Of course, there are
other causes for the medical treatment. But there is also an influence
relationship: the more contracts, the more treatments the insurance
company will have to cover.
Hans
Dr. Hans Weigand
Infolab, Tilburg University
email: H.We...@uvt.nl phone: +31 13 4662806 fax +31 13 4663069
1. G - (transfer) - G
Example: presents are provided by provider and given to doctor
2. R - (conversion or service) - X
Example: arrangement capability of community used in setting up a meeting
3. S - (conversion or service) - X
Example: arrangement service used to set up a meeting.
Note that the arrangement service is an enhancing service in this case
If we use this pattern for the hair-dressing case, then we must be more
precise about the conversion/service within the encounter.
The barber provides a hair-dressing service to the value encounter.
What is done in the encounter itself?
We could say: the delivery of this service.
The the pattern comes close to 1, in the sense that the value encounter is
basically the transfer or delivery of a service:
S (transfer) S
But this is is a weak form of co-creation of value.
(value encounter of the first kind..)
4. X - (service) - V
Example: hair-dressing adds value to hair.
Doctor visit provides publicity
Sometimes there is a word for V (like publicity), but what if there is not
such a word? Then we might express the V in terms of the R to which value
is added, e.g [hair++] to say that value is added to the customer's hair.
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A basic choice is whether we see customer services like hair-dressing
being performed *within* the value encounter (using resources provided) or
being provided *to* the value encounter.
The argument for the first is: the service is a co-creation of value, by
axiom.
The argument for the second is: the service provider does not just bring
in a bunch of resources (chair, scissors, ..) but a service. Perhaps in
some cases the service provider is passive and brings in a resource
only, but the more active he is, the more natural to see his contribution
in terms of a service.
I see two ways out of this dilemma:
a. a compromise by saying that the exchange process for the service (cf
CAISE paper) is always performed within the value encounter, but that the
service itself, as REA resource, is brought in by the provider. So this
weakens the axiom (it does not exclude there might be services performed
within the value encounter; we only say that not necessarily all services
are performed within the encounter)
b. accepting a duality that sometimes we prefer to highlight the service
process (or service as activity) and sometimes the service as value object
(or resource in REA terms), but we should not try to see them both in the
same picture. In the second cas, the axiom would not be applicable. This
means that we may put the hair-dressing service within the encounter if we
want (e.g. because multiple actors contribute, the barber, the assistant,
..) but we may also put it on the flow into the encounter (e.g. when the
encounter is a complete make-over and hair-dressing is one of the
ingredients).