Strange Loop talk question

[Alex Miller]

Hey Rubyists,

Yehuda Katz of Rails, etc will be speaking at Strange Loop this year.  I'm working with him on getting an abstract for the conf right now.  I originally had spoken with him about a talk about what's new in Rails 3 that he has done in the past but he submitted the abstract below instead.  As Ruby experts yourselves, would you rather see a Rails 3 talk or the one below? 

 

Many thanks for your feedback...feel free to email me directly if you want to keep from spamming the list.

Alex Miller

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Title: Making Your Open Source Project More Like Rails

Abstract: Ruby on Rails has shown the world that it's possible to build an open-source

project that is optimized for developer happiness. In the five years since it was

originally announced, Rails has gone through the typical hype cycle: enthusiastic

early adopters followed by negative press attention followed by a quieter period of

productivity.

What challenges did Rails face as it made its way to being a successful,

well-regarded framework, and how did it overcome them? In this talk, Yehuda

will talk about how the Rails team faced its challenges, and what lessons

you can take away when working on your own open source project.

[Ryan Felton]

I'm one of the Ruby Midwest organizers and we had Yehuda do a "softer" keynote like this and it worked out great. With so many heavily technically talks throughout the day it can get a little overwhelming, so a "soft" talk really helps break things up. Additionally I recommend either putting talks like this either at the beginning of the day or at the end. 

Best,

Ryan

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[Craig Buchek]

Either one would be good. Yehuda is a good speaker -- his keynote at
RailsConf this year was really good. (Key points that I took away:
"find something impossible and do it"; "impossible is relative".) The
"developer happiness" theme is a good one (even if done by Perl 6 guys
several years back) that's at a higher level than most of the talks.

The problem with a "What's New in Rails 3" talk at Strange Loop is
that Rails folks would already know most of it, and non-Rails people
wouldn't get to find out about all the Rails goodness that's already
there in earlier versions of Rails. I think the solution to that is to
have a "lesser" speaker do a "What's So Great About Rails" talk, to
give non-Rails people a taste of Rails. Or perhaps a talk on why Ruby
is the language that led to Rails.

One thing about that title/abstract that you might want to address --
I suspect that there will be more developers there working on non-Open
Source projects. See if he can gear the talk to be relevant to any
project -- not just Open Source projects.

Cheers,
Craig

[Amos King]

I've heard the "What's new in Rails 3" five hundred times. He has done it at a lot of conferences, and online. I'm looking for something new from him.

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[Alex]

Thanks all - we decided to stick with the open source project talk.

On Jul 27, 7:27 pm, Amos King <amos.l.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've heard the "What's new in Rails 3" five hundred times. He has done it at
> a lot of conferences, and online. I'm looking for something new from him.
>

> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Craig Buchek <craig.buc...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Either one would be good. Yehuda is a good speaker -- his keynote at
> > RailsConf this year was really good. (Key points that I took away:
> > "find something impossible and do it"; "impossible is relative".) The
> > "developer happiness" theme is a good one (even if done by Perl 6 guys
> > several years back) that's at a higher level than most of the talks.
>
> > The problem with a "What's New in Rails 3" talk at Strange Loop is
> > that Rails folks would already know most of it, and non-Rails people
> > wouldn't get to find out about all the Rails goodness that's already
> > there in earlier versions of Rails. I think the solution to that is to
> > have a "lesser" speaker do a "What's So Great About Rails" talk, to
> > give non-Rails people a taste of Rails. Or perhaps a talk on why Ruby
> > is the language that led to Rails.
>
> > One thing about that title/abstract that you might want to address --
> > I suspect that there will be more developers there working on non-Open
> > Source projects. See if he can gear the talk to be relevant to any
> > project -- not just Open Source projects.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
>
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