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Kathy Czopek

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Oct 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/19/95
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Anyone know what's happening with Rich Dalton,
formerly of ksd, kshe, & almost everywhere else?
I read here some time ago that he's coming back
soon. Where? When? Thanks for any info --

Kathy
kcz...@icon-stl.net
http://www.icon-stl.net/~kczopek/

Robert Becnel

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Oct 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/19/95
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Kathy Czopek (kcz...@icon-stl.net) wrote:
: Anyone know what's happening with Rich Dalton,

: Kathy
: kcz...@icon-stl.net
: http://www.icon-stl.net/~kczopek/

Why don't you ask him direct, his email address is ksd...@aol.com.

Please let me know what you find out.

bec...@crl.com
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Kathy Czopek

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Oct 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/20/95
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jvo...@crl.com (John M. Vogel) wrote:
> Radio Rich was fired from KSD-FM about a month ago (it was mentioned in
>the Post's "Get Out" section).
>Pity, I liked him and his Chronosynclastic Infundibulum (sp?) show.
>John

John,
We knew that -- the question is,
is he coming back?

I too liked the chrono-whatever, & the
Classics Show was awesome. When I
was in high school (aack! 10 years ago!)
he read a letter I wrote on the air, & the
next day only one person in the whole
school mentioned it! I guess all the kids at
Highland High were listening to Prince &
Duran Duran. Anyway, about 2 years later I saw
him at some event -- a car show, I think. I told
him my name, and he said, "oh, you wrote
that letter!" Saw him last year, & he
still remembered me. Neat guy.

Kathy (Duffin, to all you HHS people) Czopek
kcz...@icon-stl.net
http://www.icon-stl.net/~kczopek/

John M. Vogel

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Oct 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/20/95
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Robert Becnel (bec...@crl.com) wrote:

: Why don't you ask him direct, his email address is ksd...@aol.com.


: Please let me know what you find out.

Bob,


Radio Rich was fired from KSD-FM about a month ago (it was mentioned in

the Post's "Get Out" section). Seems he wasn't getting the ratings they
wanted. Pity, I liked him and his Chronosynclastic Infundibulum (sp?) show.

John
jvo...@crl.com

Martin J. Slover

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Oct 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/21/95
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Mark Roberts (tran...@crl.com) wrote:

: The (increasingly declining) _Post_ actually covered *radio*? As Bob Richards
: used to say on his weathercasts, "Alert the media!"
:
Mark..It actually has been awhile since any St. Louis media has covered
radio well hasn't it (excepting SJR). I think John Archibald at the Globe
was one of the last to really have a good column that included radio.
Jerry Berger puts tidbits in from time to time but not enough to really
be consistent. Get Out did run a two page spread in last weeks issue with
pictures of selected jocks from St. Louis radio.

: Over the past couple of months, the _St. Louis Journalism Review_'s articles
: about the personnel changes at KSD-FM strongly suggest that EZ Communications
: is trying to pare back on the payroll which it seems to feel was inflated with
: the contracts that Gannett had with KSD-FM air staff.
:
As I posted in another newsgroup which you and I both read
(rec.arts.boardcasting), Chuck Jeffries has clocked in at the River doing
mid day. Don't know what happened to Debbie Alexander but she will be
missed by these ears at least. Besides that I will miss calling her and
giving her grief about not getting her info right on certain artists :)

: I think Rich should be at KSHE. Maybe "The River" (which would be OK for my
: Columbia listening when I'm there, since, because of the way FM allocations
: have worked out, 101.1 has a fairly clear shot into Columbia, and the
: impending move to the DeBalivere tower should help), but KSHE would be the
: strongest signal and the best match for his style and reputation.
:
Mark, is the River changing towers? I would think you would get
interferance with the Fox (KCFX) in KC...

Max...

--
Max Slover |"Some people are so narrow minded that they can look
Ind...@crl.com | through a keyhole with both eyes at the same time"
| --- Zig Ziglar---


Martin J. Slover

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Oct 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/22/95
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Mark Roberts (tran...@crl.com) wrote:
: > ind...@crl.com (Martin J. Slover) writes:

: > Mark Roberts (tran...@crl.com) wrote:
: >
: > : The (increasingly declining) _Post_ actually covered *radio*? As Bob Richards
: > : used to say on his weathercasts, "Alert the media!"
: > :
: > Mark..It actually has been awhile since any St. Louis media has covered
: > radio well hasn't it (excepting SJR).

: Not since the days of Pete Rahn at the Globe. (John Archibald was at the Post
: and he wasn't all that good, I thought.)
:
I was trying to remember Pete Rahn's name when I wrote that last msg and
couldn't place it. I felt both were fairly good at what they did but
hey...I was a youngin then :)


: There's a CP granted to move to the old KMJM tower on DeBalivere. That should
: improve the in-city coverage greatly. The antenna will also be directional
: (but the CP info I saw didn't say to where).

I assume they are moving it to to the new Corporate Square address
(former home of KSD AM/FM). As far as I knew they were using facilities
on one of the many towers in Shrewsbury MO.

: KCFX was shoehorned into the 101.1 slot in 1990 -- it started out at 100.7.

Remember the switch with the station in Carrolton well. Summer of 1990
and I was living at hwy 71 and main in Grandview MO :)

Jerry AMC

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Oct 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/23/95
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In article <467o2g$c...@crl14.crl.com>, jvo...@crl.com (John M. Vogel)
writes:

The ratings weren't the problem. It was pure economics. KSD is real low
on $$$$'s after getting the Rams radio rights and Radio Rich had a healthy
(and well deserved) salary.

When I last got an emailed from him about a month ago, he was optimistic
about having another gig soon.

Jerry Whittle
Belleville IL
Jerr...@aol.com

Mark Roberts

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Oct 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/25/95
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> ind...@crl.com (Martin J. Slover) writes:
> Pooh...I am thinking of the other urban station in town... dang me :).
> Z100 et al moved to corporate square last spring. I delivered telecom
> equipment to the building thats how I know.
>
Too bad Dr. Jockenstein wasn't there at the time...oops, that's another post....
>
> : WVRV's present site appears to be on Route 3 about a couple of miles south
> : of I-270, over on the Illinois side.
>
> The original WMRY site was at Our Lady Of The Snows just outside
> Belleview off of Route 13.

Right you are.

> A tower structure still sits there. I thought
> I had heard they moved tower facilities to somewhere to the north at one
> time.
>
{KCFX}
> Check the records Mark but I do remember it vividly. I listened to the
> Fox a lot when I lived in KC.
>
Ugh. At least it wasn't KY-102. (Imagine KSHE's 1982 playlist -- without
the "KSHE Classics" -- and absolutely no imagination and you have KY-102.
Ugh again.)

I can't find it readily but I am absolutely certain it was late in the year.
I am thinking it was New Year's Eve. I was at a small party with people from
the office and on the way home I heard the switch. (No jokes about New Years'
Eve!) But there was another office party at the same house earlier that fall,
so I could have it mixed up. Will keep on digging....

It was the first year KCFX carried the Chiefs and in order to get the rights,
they persuaded KMZU (the Carrollton station at 101.1) to simulcast until
the swap could be made to improve KCFX's signal (which was pretty awful) in
Kansas City.

Speaking of move-ins, I'd like to know why KPNT's signal is so awful. It's a
full class-C and, while sure, it's farther south than most of the FMs, I seem
to remember that it came in better at Columbia when it was the old KSGM-FM,
with less power and height and farther away from Columbia. I remember hearing
KPNT fading quite a bit the last time I was on the Delmar Loop in U City.
There's no reason for this that I can think of (except poor engineering or
poor siting).
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The Mid-America Radio Page is now at http://www.littleblue.com/kcradio
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Mark S. Roberts

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Oct 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/26/95
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On 24 Oct 1995 18:34:10 -0700 Martin J. Slover (ind...@crl.com) wrote:
: Mark Roberts (tran...@crl.com) wrote:
: : {KCFX}
: I'll wait to see what you can find in the records on this and not make
: any remarks about New Years eve :)

I can't find anything so far. It happened toward the end of my
"I-hate-radio" period. I may have to call over there to see if anyone there
knows.

{KPNT}

: Since I listen to the Point a lot less than I did a few years back I
: can't give you in further insight. I know they have some lousy coverage
: areas across the county. Their antenna site is very far south in
: comparison to the other stations in the market though.

But the signal in Columbia is also much worse than other St. Louis
stations. And it's worse than when it was KSGM-FM. Ah, yes, another move-in
mistake.

(Thank heavens no one did that with Litchfield. Until KBXR came on in
Columbia, WSMI-FM came in just as well as most of the other St. Louis
stations.)

--
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Mark Roberts | Kansas City, Missouri (USA) | http://www.crl.com/~transvox/
The Mid-America Radio Page is now at http://www.littleblue.com/kcradio

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Mark Roberts

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Oct 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/28/95
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> ind...@crl.com (Martin J. Slover) writes:
> Oh Mark... Jerry Berger of the Post Dispatch made note
> in today's paper that KEZK has the good possiblity of being sold. It was
> noted that Compass Radio (owner of KEZK/KFNS) is selling six of its
> stations to Par Broadcasting.
>
And KFNS and KEZK were among them, according to the M Street Journal which,
miraculously, I received today.

Joe Bonwich

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Nov 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/3/95
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In article <47cfq6$p...@cerberus-138.wustl.edu>, ga...@michelob.wustl.edu (gary j. meyer) says:

> I haven't kept up on SLJR. What's the poop on the AM side
>of KSD? When they dropped the news format and didn't carry CNN and
>NBC Nitely News anymore I stopped listening.
>
> That was great when they carried NBC Nitely News and I could
>listen to it on my way home in the afternoon! I miss it!
>
> Any word on any other StL station going to a news format?

There is some rumor that KMOX might soon start carrying news again.

joe bonwich
j...@dra.com

John M. Vogel

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Nov 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/3/95
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gary j. meyer (ga...@michelob.wustl.edu) wrote:

: I haven't kept up on SLJR. What's the poop on the AM side


: of KSD? When they dropped the news format and didn't carry CNN and
: NBC Nitely News anymore I stopped listening.

Heard that the station is getting a lot of complaints about Frank O.
Pinion. Obviously, when I hear the kind of music KSD-AM is playing I'm
not surprised about the audience's reaction (I'm talking really *old* pop
songs, Frank Sinatra, etc). Actually, I really like Frank's lewd humor -
gives my mornings a good kickstart.

I actually heard another DJ at KSD-AM say (on-air) "I'm not giving out any
CD's of (artist) today because I have a headache." I had to laugh.

John
jvo...@crl.com


Frank Absher

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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First, thanks for the compliments on SJR. We're never sure who reads our
stuff, and it's good to be appreciated.
Now, KSD-AM...boy, there's a mess for you. The station has no sense of
direction. I heard Barbara Whitesides is filling in for John Carney
(don't get me started on him) for a couple of weeks. A new rumor about
format floats out of 3100 Market Street every couple of days, but my
guess is that top management doesn't even know where the station is
going.
And as for the former CNN audio on the station, it actually got higher
ratings that Carney does.


gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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>In article <469qbs$b...@nntp.crl.com>, Mark Roberts <tran...@crl.com> wrote:
>>
>>The (increasingly declining) _Post_ actually covered *radio*? As Bob Richards
>>used to say on his weathercasts, "Alert the media!"


And speaking of the decline of the Post Dispatch....who the heck
is the picture editor for the front page!!! I am always amazed at
the trite pictures he puts on the front.

Thursday was a classic example of how NOT to edit a paper!
Nasa released a BEAUTIFUL color picture of the Eagle Nebula & pointed
out stars forming on the tips of the clouds! It was a breath-taking picture.
The Post runs it in black & white on an inside page! On the front page,
the Post runs 2 pictures of kids getting on a school bus & a father carrying
his daughters!!! Hard hitting news there.

That front page was SO boring....not only would I have NOt bought
it from a newsstand but I have a subscription...and I still considered not
bothering to open it!


A fluke you say.... The next day the Post ran the next Hubble
Telescope picture on the inside & in black& white AGAIN! In the meantime,
CNN was getting hundreds of calls from people who "saw the face of Jesus"
in the color version.


gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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In article <47d8ob$t...@indigo.dra.com>, Joe Bonwich <J...@dra.com> wrote:
>
>There is some rumor that KMOX might soon start carrying news again.

That would be nice! I was really disappointed when Zimmerman
decided to cut off the CBS News on the HOur at the first commercial.
Showed a real lack of commitment to being a news source in my mind!


gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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My apologies! I'm reposting this with a more accurate title.
I had intended to retitle it but hit the send key too quickly.

The content is the same as the first posting. Only the title
has been fixed.

gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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In article <47emfq$s...@crl10.crl.com>, Alan L. Cassel <alca...@crl.com> wrote:
>
>If you don't like NPR news, you can always listen to KSD-AM's broadcast of
>channel 5's 5 p.m. news, which was still there the last time I checked a
>few days ago.


PA - LEEEEZ! Watch your language...how dare you besmerch the
word "news" by applying it to that broadcast! Isn't their motto,
"If its SLEEZE we'll show it to you!"


I sat there and counted for a couple weeks on KSDK's 10pm.
For 2 weeks straight it seemed every lead story was a tabloid-ish violence
or (even better yet) sexual violence.

When they cann't find enuff of that then it seems they
give you the shots of crime victims or fender bender cars.

When they get real desperate they might cover some real news!

A year or 2 ago, I watched one of their reporters chase co-eds
on Wash U's campus pleading with them to tell the KSDK camera how they had
been "date-raped". When the co-ed said she hadn't been date-raped the
response was, "...surely some boy friend has "gone too far"! Well, thats
date-rape!"

And most of the real on air talent has left for other stations.
Dick Ford, JOhn Auble, DAve Murray,.... all must be relieved that
they don't have to wallow in it!


KSDK has sunk to the level of a "National INquirer" of the local
media.

gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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In article <47emfq$s...@crl10.crl.com>, Alan L. Cassel <alca...@crl.com> wrote:
>Joe Bonwich (J...@dra.com) wrote:
>: There is some rumor that KMOX might soon start carrying news again.
>
>Forget KMOX -- try KWMU-FM 90.7. They have NPR news and Morning Edition
>... Fresh Air news and >... Talk of the Nation >... All Things Considered
>local news reports

You're correct. All excellent.


I do find myself listening here more often than elsewhere!


.
.
.


gary j. meyer

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Nov 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/5/95
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In article <47emfq$s...@crl10.crl.com>, Alan L. Cassel <alca...@crl.com> wrote:
>
>Forget KMOX -- try KWMU-FM 90.7. They have NPR news and Morning Edition
>...
>Overnight, from midnight until 5 a.m., they carry BBC programming, which
>is heavy on international news and features.

BBC World Service is probably THE best thing on StL radio!
It gives some real insites into the world from someone else's perspective.
It interesting just noting WHICH stories they choose to cover compared to
the US media.

I would guess that if there is such a thing as a definitive
world-wide newscast, this is it.

I just wish it was on at a couple other times of day as well as
the midnite - 5am.

Tom Schaefer

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Nov 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/6/95
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ga...@michelob.wustl.edu (gary j. meyer) wrote:
>:| >Forget KMOX -- try KWMU-FM 90.7. They have NPR news and Morning Edition
>:| >... Fresh Air news and >... Talk of the Nation >... All Things Considered
>:| >local news reports
>:| You're correct. All excellent.
>:| I do find myself listening here more often than elsewhere!

While KWMU does an excellent job, I wish they weren't so monotone. I
find that when I use them to wake up to, I get some of the best REM
sleep ever.


=------------------------------------------------------------=
Tom Schaefer ne...@icon-stl.net
Net Design Technology, Inc. 314-481-4188
=------------------------------------------------------------=


har...@i1.net

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Nov 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/6/95
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ga...@michelob.wustl.edu (gary j. meyer) wrote:
>In article <47emfq$s...@crl10.crl.com>, Alan L. Cassel <alca...@crl.com> wrote:
>>


apparently it must sell...


snm...@ccmail.monsanto.com

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Nov 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/6/95
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for people with BUD (bug ugly dishes) a side audio channel of C-CPAN carries
the BBC. (Every video channel has 3 or 4 audio feeds, 2 for stereo, and the
other 2 can do whatever you like). I don't know if cable boxes can disentangle
a side audio channel - never had cable!

yep I almost schedule my work around the BBC news at midnight.

Simon

PPS, for a virtual newspaper, try the English Telegraph. This is is a regular
print newspaper, well respected and a large circulation. It is at
www.telegraph.co.uk, and usually available by 10pm due to the time difference.
has many photos, has people in the loop (stories point to past stories, this
weekend the Shamir story had a pointer back to the Jerusalem Post). It's also
*much* better than the PD, although that isn't hard. I've pretty proven the PD
is a 286-25 reading clari.news with the keyword "LOUIS" embedded in it.

(disclaimer : I'm English so biased!)


> gary j. meyer (ga...@michelob.wustl.edu) wrote:

> : BBC World Service is probably THE best thing on StL radio!

Tom Schaefer

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Nov 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/6/95
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ga...@michelob.wustl.edu (gary j. meyer) wrote:
>:| And speaking of the decline of the Post Dispatch....who the heck

>:| is the picture editor for the front page!!! I am always amazed at
>:| the trite pictures he puts on the front.
[other good stuff snipped]

Gary -
What you are referring to is symptomatic of the poor quality
journalism that goes on at the Post Discharge.

Ever find yourself looking at the classifieds for work?
What a mess! The irony there is that they mix automotive ads into the
employment section. Like unemployed people are looking for new cars...
I guess they figure if you're looking for work you're gonna need a new
car to get you there! DUH!

I don't get a daily delivery anymore, we just get it on weekends so we
get a new miserably-put-together-tv-guide and the Sundy Supplements,
i.e. comics and coupons. I figure it's worth the buck or two.

We don't actually READ the paper you see. There isn't much worth
reading in the Post Discharge, A PULITZER PAPER! DOH!

And if I want the kind of adrenilin rush one used to get in the olden
days by reading letters to the editor, hell we have newsgroups for
that!

Look at the San Jose Mercury News, at least these people recognized
right away that the media pipe for the 21st century is gonna be The
Net, not newsprint. Given time, unresponsive organizations like the
Post Discharge will fade and wither into history because they lack any
understanding of what is happening in the new communications mediums.

If the Post was smart, and they aren't....nevermind!

Bill

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Nov 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/11/95
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In article <47jchc$q...@cerberus-138.wustl.edu>, ga...@michelob.wustl.edu (gary
j. meyer) writes:

> BBC World Service is probably THE best thing on StL radio! It
> gives some real insites into the world from someone else's perspective.
> It interesting just noting WHICH stories they choose to cover compared
> to the US media.
>

> I would guess that if there is such a thing as a
> definitive world-wide newscast, this is it.
>
> I just wish it was on at a couple other times of day as well as
> the midnite - 5am.
>

The BBC is the best thing on St. Louis radio and you can hear it everyday if
you want to.

Well just hop on down to your local SONY dealer and pick up a nifty ICF-2010
short wave radio. (Economically challenged types can skip SONY and slip into
Radio Shack - but those losers, i.e RS, will not sell you a measly D battery
without a sworn staement of your home address, phone number and mother's
maiden name... but I digress).

Of course many other options are available for purchasing portable short wave
radios. They will set you back $80 (used piece of junk) to $459 (list for the
2010 - nobody pays list unless they're from Ladue).

Anyway, the BBC can be picked up all day and all night long with out any
special antennaes or anything right here in good ole St. Louis. I've listened
to the World Service for about four years every day until...

Recently I fell down a flight of stairs and for reasons unknown I started
listening to Imus In The Morning instead. The doctors have tried everything
but my SONY 2010 remains silent. I'm trying New Age treatments now.

Well... time for more medication.

Bill

Ramesh Chellaton

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Nov 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/12/95
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BBC does indeed have a very good news/feature content in it.. compared
to the US radio stations (most of them)... Even the medim wave
broadcasts
from US stations are a torture to the mind and an insult to the intellect.
There
are the christian broadcasts that go on harping about the Bible as
infinitum.
Unfortunately, these transmissions are the strongest...

But if you do have a shortwave receiver, then you could listen to the
Voice
of America (VOA) which (I think is federally supported) is the external
services
of ABC. Although VOA had covered the OJ simpson trial rather nauseatingly.

OddbodyAS2

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Nov 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/12/95
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In article <951111113...@us009904.interramp.com>,
us00...@interramp.com (Bill) writes:

>Of course many other options are available for purchasing portable short
wave
>
>radios. They will set you back $80 (used piece of junk) to $459 (list for
the
>
>2010 - nobody pays list unless they're from Ladue).
>
>Anyway, the BBC can be picked up all day and all night long with out any
>special antennaes or anything right here in good ole St. Louis. I've
listened
>
>to the World Service for about four years every day until...

Four years every day! Man, that would be worth $459!!! ;^)

Mark Doernhoefer

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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Frank Absher <fab...@siue.edu> wrote:

[snip]
>... I heard Barbara Whitesides is filling in for John Carney

>(don't get me started on him) for a couple of weeks.

Sorry, I've got to get you started on this one. Is John Carney
any relation to the late, great Jack Carney of KMOX fame?

BTW, on the Johnny Rabbitt thread: You are correct, I am referring
to the Rabbitt that featured Bruno J. Grunion as his [taped] sidekick.
Your post made me realize just how tough it was to drop prerecorded
dialog in to a live show back then. I am impressed.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark I used to be indecisive,
mdoe...@cais.com but now I'm not so sure.
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Martin J. Slover

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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Mark Doernhoefer (mdoe...@cais.com) wrote:
: Frank Absher <fab...@siue.edu> wrote:

: [snip]
: >... I heard Barbara Whitesides is filling in for John Carney
: >(don't get me started on him) for a couple of weeks.

: Sorry, I've got to get you started on this one. Is John Carney
: any relation to the late, great Jack Carney of KMOX fame?

Mark...John is the son of the late Jack Carney.

steph...@gmail.com

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Apr 24, 2015, 7:23:26 PM4/24/15
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On Thursday, October 19, 1995 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Kathy Czopek wrote:
> Anyone know what's happening with Rich Dalton,
> formerly of ksd, kshe, & almost everywhere else?
> I read here some time ago that he's coming back
> soon. Where? When? Thanks for any info --
>
> Kathy
> kcz...@icon-stl.net
> http://www.icon-stl.net/~kczopek/

He is at www.ourmusicalroots.com
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