Soim new to video editing and im using Sony Vegas 15 ive looked into this topic alot and its the topic of whether i should use "Sony Vegas Levels FX" as an output. The preset which is "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" gives off a fainted....white/grey washed out look to the video which i personally dont like, like its completely washed out the colors although (im not trained to the eye like some of you). The preset which is "Studio RGB to Computer RGB" gives off a lovely darken and more vibrant look to my project.
1. Im uploading to Youtube and people have explained in Youtube tutorials that "Computer RGB to Studio RGB' looks better when uploaded to Youtube as the black/darker areas get affected alot when uploading to Youtube. They say Youtube "crushes/darkens" the darker areas much much more....
Are they correct?, should i use the washed out preset "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" then edit with color corrector to get the color back into the project, and let Youtube process this video to make it more dark and vibrant?. As i said im new so i might not understand most "Technical replies" but i would appreciate the help. cheers
Thanks for the reply Nick, your links are very informative a bit more advanced than what i know. So your saying i should render with the effect preset "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" then let Youtube add its darken tone, if so then ive just done a few tests and it does seem like the correct way to do it and it looks good
I don't think YouTube "adds its darken tone". It's players that do this as they are usually set up for Studio RGB and stretch out the RGB range to look normal. TVs in my experience do the same. The links Nick gave you should explain.
If your camera shoots the full range from 0-255 then a crude but effective fix to stop excessive contrast and clipping in a rendered video is to add a Levels FX to the event(s), track, or video output and select the "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" preset (i.e. the opposite of the "monitoring fix" in section 2 above), and leave that FX enabled when you render.
I have put this effect to use and it works..thats all i know?, sorry if i cant explain alot i just dont know much as of yet but basically i used yhe effect as i rendered and my youtube videos are no longer "as" dark on youtube
Im recording gameplay on my pc, no camera just catured by obs, what should i study specifically in vegas to improve my knowledge? so i know what these graphs mean? i really want to create quality content
Are you sure you are using Vegas Pro 15 as you're using terminology that harks back to Vegas Pro 13 and earlier when Sony owned Vegas Pro? After VP13, all releases (VP14-17) have been from the subsequent owner: MAGIX.
As you've probably seen from the links provided by Nick Hope, one of the main uses of Levels Studio RGB to Computer RGB is to color grade your project on your computer with an image that replicates that of how it will appear on a TV. When rendering the project, Levels is turned off to avoid doubling up on the darkening effect.
However, with YouTube and the like, there is a consequent problem. If the viewer is watching the YT upload on a TV, then the color grading would be expected to be fine (assuming the user's TV settings are neutral), but if the viewer is watching on a computer, then the image may seem a little washed out unless the user's computer settings compensate to replicate TV settings.
The majority are using phone and computer, the only reason in why im fascinated by this topic is that people say that the "Levels" effect is good to use when uploading to Youtube as Youtube darkens the videos, the tutorials on Youtube talking about "Levels" also say that the preset "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" lightens the darkness so it looks less dark on Youtube - by no means do i accept this claim, all im saying here is what ive learnt on youtube, are these theory's correct? should i use the levels effect if im uploading to youtube and viewers are watching on phone or computer? and if one viewer happens to watch on tv should i use the effect regardless? - cheers for the help by t he way and yes im using Sony Vegas 15
Also with a computer how a viewer sees the levels will depend on the graphic settings and/or the players settings. So not all computer users will see the same. I suspect that by default many consumer pcs have the graphics set to work on "limited range".
You use the Levels FX as first one in a row followed by at least three other FX which may affect your levels. This doesn't make sense if Levels FX is meant to control your output. Levels FX must be last one in your chain, not first one.
when you squish levels to 16-235 (broadcast/studio), just add more CONTRAST back in until it looks nice again. you can work within that range. I tend to bump the saturation up too to compensate for the loss of the "dark side" which makes richer colors
I use levels 16-235 (studio) ALL THE TIME to guarentee similar looking playback across ALL platforms. saves me the headache of testing across many devices, with many different media players, looking for crushed black or blown white. Sure, it's legacy based, but most everything we watch right now is... until HDR really takes over in about 20 years. but I don't use Vegas Levels except for experiments. I use free AAV COLORLAB as my unscientific tests show it to be a more accurate leveler than Vegas version. it has tons of other useful things in it also
when i open my program that i've been using for years, i get an ad telling me i can get the latest software as an upgrade to my current product for just $20. however, no matter what i try, i can't seem to get this to work. it also seems like i can't register my movie studio to my magix account with my serial number? looking for some help to understand all of this.
@bebop-senju Hi, I'm not sure about your problem, but 'movie studio 24 platinum' is not an upgrade from sony Vegas movie studio 11, they are different programs. The closest correct upgrade would be to Vegas Pro. Download the Trial of Movie Studio 24 & the Trial of Vegas Pro before you pay anyone anything.
PS. I should say that Magix Movie Studio is a good basic program & for $20 is a good purchase. but it requires a fairly modern PC to work well, Vegas movie studio 11 was released in 2011 so I wonder what specs your PC has? Is it as old as Vegas movie studio 11? Can you share your CPU (Processor) GPU (graphics card), the amount of RAM you have & which Windows version you are running.
A lot of the older programs will no longer run on Windows 10 onwards and the newest ones won't work on older operating systems. All current and recent past programs start with a P3 registration code. Much older programs I don't think are available for download any more as they are technically no longer within their lifetime guarantee which would normally mean the operating system they were designed to work with is no longer supported. Registering a product would have needed to be done at the time of purchase and an account activated. To use that account again the original email address you used at the time would be needed to log in as the activation code is only for the program you licenced.
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to answer as many questions as i was asked: my pc is more than capable of running current software. i've got amd ryzen 9 5900x, ddr5 32GB ram, and a 4070ti and i'm running windows 11. so upgrading isn't an issue. i've also been running movie studio 11 forever cause its just what my sister bought for herself ages ago and we've been sharing it since.
so if i wanted to upgrade to the current version of vegas pro, i wouldn't be eligible for the upgrade discount despite having the software? i suppose without the ability to register it under my account, that would be the case right? additionally, i don't think my sister ever registered the software with an account and simply just downloaded the program and put in the serial number.
For specific questions regarding older versions of Vegas products and possible upgrades it would be better to ask those questions on the Vegas Creatives forums. The link to which can be found at the base of each page here.
The forums here deal specifically with Video Pro X and Magix Movie Studio which is not the same product you have which is Vegas Movie Studio. You could also ask Magix directly via the email address I gave earlier. They are the ones with the power to offer upgrades or not. We are only users on the forums and do not represent the Magix company in any way, nor can we say with any confidence what could or could not be offered to you.
You may be. It's just that Magix didn't own Vegas when you bought Movie Studio 11 and may not have any details on you, especially if you didn't register it then. Spooky though that you're getting upgrade emails on a program that is years old wasn't even owned by Magix then.
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