Our IT department recently demonstrated the operation of Civil 3D and some very large aerial images using Microsoft Azure for the processing and an underpowered computer in a conference room for display. It was quite amazing to see. We have remote staff working under this arrangement and it appears to be very good.
I have several older version of VW installed in MacOS VWMare virtual machines that I use for testing and translation purposes. But I don't use them for "real" work with VW, but they seem to run just fine.
Not sure how VW would run remotely. As long as you had a fast network connection on both ends (Cable or Fiber, preferably symetric), able to dedicate at least it would probably be OK for general users. Streaming 4K video (which is relatively highly compressed) requires about 25Meg of bandwidth. So you are going to want to have at least that much available for each user trying to run VW remotely. For the power users who already draft faster than VW can keep up with clicks I think it would be a painful experience.
I would only recommend even trying something like this to either a tech loving solo practitioner or a large firm with a very good and underutilized IT department to get it set up and running properly.
The past few weeks we have been testing operation of Vectorworks via a remote desktop control. Vectorworks exists on a very well spec'd Windows based system, remote control of that system was done from both PC and Mac based systems, one user being over 100 miles away. It seems to be working very well initially while people follow training videos. We shall see what happens as things get more complicated ?
Our team is in the process of testing several virtual desktop solutions. If you have specific questions right now, please let us know. Once the testing and partnerships are finalized, we will let you you know. But overall, we do feel virtual desktop solutions work with Vectorworks, pending the circumstance and instances.
Have you all made any further progress on this or know of anyone who is trying this out. Jeff, you mentioned a tech loving sole practitioner, I might be your guy. I'm also interested to see what a university set up might involve. Many students want to use 3D modeling software and not many can afford a machine with the power to run programs like VW. If we could have a virtual LAB where students could use VW remotely could be great for the industry and VW.
I stopped the research I was doing because it seemed VWX was not interested in supporting such a scheme and a competitor was more than happy to get the company set up with a solution. I also lost interest in VWX Project Sharing due to stability issues. All of this stuff is very promising, but not ready for prime time IMHO.
Vectorworks runs successfully within remote and virtualized environments. We are confident that offices that wish to operate using virtualization technologies will have success with this option, if the software is given adequate resources comparable to the desktop system requirements listed elsewhere in this document.
Offices must develop IT in-house or contract out IT support for their chosen virtualization system. Vectorworks Inc. can only provide general guidance, since many virtualization options exist, and every virtualization technology has its own details realized uniquely for each office.
Vectorworks is a graphical application and as such requires high quality graphics support from the virtualization technology chosen. The graphics recommendations listed in the system requirements for desktop operation are a good guide for what is necessary for virtualized GPUs. The virtualized copies of Vectorworks must have sufficient graphical support to operate successfully.
I can add that we successfully tested the following platforms: HPAnywhere, Inevidesk, and Simple Cloud. Simple Cloud, in particular, has a well-established training lab setup that aligns closely with what you're seeking for a virtual lab environment for students to utilize Vectorworks.
I suggest giving Project Sharing in Vectorworks 2024 a try. We have made several enhancements to improve its functionality and stability. Sometimes, even the best tools require some time to shine. I believe you will be satisfied with the results, and thank you for your patience and support.
So has anyone here ever slip streamed certain software into a Windows ISO?
I am looking to slipstream Adobe Flash, Java, Adobe Reader, Avira Free, Open Office, and possibly other things in the future.
I know some people have said it's easy if you follow directions, and some have said it's a pain in the ass.
I can't for the life of me remember the name of the apps that I used for vista and XP and yeah it was a bit of a pain back then.
for win 7: -to-create-a-customized-windows-7-installation-disc-with-integrated-updates/
for win 8: -to-create-custom-windows-8-install-and-refresh-disc-1433371693
for win 10 not sure, I bet it self destructs if you try to make your own customised image unless a similar method to the windows 8 instructions at the bottom also works for 10?
Official Windows Updates and supported Windows components (like the .Net Framework) can be integrated directly using the methods that @TheRabidTech described. The Windows 10 instructions are the same as the Windows 8-8.1 ones but are even easier to do.
For OEM or enterprise deployment, step 7 is not necessary since WIM files can be deployed over the network or from USB sticks directly. I posted some software to automate parts 5 to 8 if interested. I called it ADKTools.
In very general terms (not specific to .ISO files), what you're referring to is the idea of having the applications simply available in an OS environment automatically or "application abstraction." Depending on how exactly you want things to work, and the exact versions of software you want to do it to, and the exact technology to "capture" the applications, it can be either really easy or really difficult.
Application abstraction focuses on either the bundling approach (as described above) or the idea of capturing an application by measuring the differences between the OS by itself and the application once installed. This second "difference" approach is VMware ThinApp technology, and Citrus has an alternative implementation. A key limitation being this technology only works for 32-bit applications (so not Adobe Premiere) as far as I know. I haven't looked into the Citrus implementation however. This second approach tends to be a PIA to set up (but doable) and is easy to maintain.
"scanstate /apps /capture"
This is a free alternative, part of the Windows ADK, to VMware ThinApp without the 64-bit limitation. This will create a "software.ppkg" file that has all of the applications pre-installed.
Pros: True native third party application abstraction. Free, part of Windows. Well supported.
Cons: 2 key limitations: 1) Windows 10 only, and 2) a 10GB maximum compressed capture limit (so still no Adobe CS depending).
Implementation: Simply run the command to generate a software.ppkg capture, place the .ppkg file in the appropriate directory (C:\Recovery I think) and all the apps will be automatically installed when Windows is installed or reset/refreshed. This approach has
How easy to do you want the initial capture to be and how scalable do you want it to be? Do you want the building process for the image (in order to change the software packages) to be a manual process or automatic? Should that image work on different hardware or will the system configuration be exactly the same every time?
VHD:
If you don't need arbitrary different hardware support (unlikely) you can use the .VHD format used by the "Create a system image" option in the Windows Backup and Restore center. The .vhd is a byte-per-byte capture technique and captures partitioning information. It works great for "restore my OS" type scenarios that OEMs have to support.
Pro: easy to create
Cons: Hardware gnostic, changing disk sizes is asking for problems, very "manual" approach. All software must be reinstalled on each system.
Implementation: just shrink the existing OS partition with the apps preinstalled and image the system. VHD images can be deployed/restored using WindowsRE.
WIM
If you want a hardware agnostic image, use WIM technology as I described above. Windows IMaging formated images capture file system-level information and captures can be made hardware agnostic by capturing after a sysprep operation. Sysprep can fail and trash the image so use a VM with restoration capabilities. Electronic Software Delivery (ESD) images are highly compressed .WIM images. This is the preferred way to deploy Windows and Microsoft uses this format inside of .ISO files.