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deniz ilgaz

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Jun 21, 2021, 9:10:18 AM6/21/21
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Hi everyone, 

I am one of Sumerology student in Ankara University /Turkey. I prepare graduate thesis about Mesopotamian/Babylon Astronomy texts (at least small part of ). 
If someone who interested in Mesopotamia Astronomy and tablets of course could you connect me. 

Thank you all 
and wish stay healty 
deniz 

Antwane Lee

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Jul 1, 2021, 8:27:50 PM7/1/21
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Deniz:

I live in Chicago and there is a research center and museum at the University of Chicago called The Oriental Institute. Here are some resources below I got from them about one month ago on Babylonian and Chaldean astronomy:

 
  • Hunger, Hermann, ed. Astrological Reports to Assyrian Kings. State Archives of Assyria 8. Helsinki: Neo-Assyrian Text Corpus Project, 1992.
  • Rochberg, Francesca. The Heavenly Writing: Divination, Horoscopy, and Astronomy in Mesopotamian Culture. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2004.
  • Brack-Bernsen, Lis. “The 360-Day Year in Mesopotamia.” in Calendars and Years: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient Near East, edited by Steele, John M., 83–100. Oxford: Oxbow Books, 2007.
  • Ashton, Sally-Ann. “Ancient Egyptian Hair-Combs in the Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge.” in Under the Potter’s Tree: Studies on Ancient Egypt Presented to Janine Bourriau on the Occasion of her 70th Birthday, by Bourriau, Janine, 19–44. edited by Aston, David, Bader, Bettina, Gallorini, Carla, Nicholson, Paul, and Buckingham, Sarah, 19–44. Orientalia Lovaniensia Analecta 204. Leuven: Peeters, 2011.
  • Ossendrijver, Mathieu. Babylonian Mathematical Astronomy: Procedure Texts. Sources and Studies in the History of Mathematics and Physical Sciences. New York: Springer, 2012.
  • Jones, Alexander. “The Legacy of Ancient Near Eastern Astronomy.” Bulletin (Canadian Society for Mesopotamian Studies) 39 (2004): 15ff.
  • Hunger, Hermann, ed. Astrological Reports to Assyrian Kings. State Archives of Assyria 8. Helsinki: Neo-Assyrian Text Corpus Project, 1992.
  • Karvonen-Kannas, Kerttu. The Seleucid and Parthian Terracotta Figurines from Babylon in the Iraq Museum, the British Museum and the Louvre. Firenze: Casa Editrice le Lettere, 1995.
  • Britton, John and Walker, Christopher. “Astronomy and Astrology in Mesopotamia.” in Astronomy Before the Telescope, edited by Walker, Christopher, 42–68. London: British Museum Press, 1996.
  • Vargyas, Péter. “L’economie de la Mesopotamie et les tablettes astronomiques.” in Égypte et Mediterranees, edited by Bouineau, Jacques, 99–110. Paris: L’Harmattan, 1998.
  • De Meis, Salvo and Hunger, Hermann. Astronomical Dating of Assyrian and Babylonian Reports. Roma: Istituto Italiano per l’Africa e l'Oriente, n.d.
  • Reiner, Erica. Babylonian Planetary Omens, Part Four. Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2005.
  • Rochberg, Francesca. “Astronomy and Calendars in Ancient Mesopotamia.” in Civilizations of the Ancient Near East. Volume 3, edited by Sasson, Jack M., 1925–1940. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1995.
  • Hunger, Hermann, ed. Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts from Babylonia.  Volume VI:  Goal Year Texts. Wien: Verlag der Osterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, 2006.
  • Hunger, Hermann, ed. Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts from Babylonia.  Volume V: Lunar and Planetary Texts. Wien: Verlag der Österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, 2001.
  • Reiner, Erica. Babylonian Planetary Omens, Part One:  Enuma Anu Enlil, Tablet 63: The Venus Tablets of Ammisaduqa. Cuneiform Monographs 30. Malibu: Undena Publications, 1975.
  • Sachs, Abraham J. and Hunger, Hermann. Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts from Babylonia.  Volume III:  Diaries from 164 B.C. to 61 B.C. Wien: Verlag der Osterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1996.
  • Scalf, Foy D. “What is the Book of the Dead.” in Book of the Dead: Becoming God in Ancient Egypt, edited by Scalf, Foy D., 21–27. Oriental Institute Museum Publications 39. Chicago: Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, 2017.
  • Steele, John M. Rising Time Schemes in Babylonian Astronomy. SpringerBriefs in History of Science and Technology. Springer, 2017.
  • Hunger, Hermann and Pingree, David. Astral Sciences in Mesopotamia. Handbook of Oriental Studies. Section 1: The Near and Middle East 1. Leiden: Brill, n.d.
  • Hunger, Hermann and Steele, John. The Babylonian Astronomical Compendium MUL.APIN. Scientific Writings from the Ancient and Medieval World. London: Routledge, 2019.
  • Reiner, Erica. Astral Magic in Babylonia. Transactions of the American Philosophical Society 85. Philadelphia: The American Philosophical Society, 1995.
  • Reiner, Erica. Babylonian Planetary Omens, Part Two:  Enuma Anu Enlil, Tablets 50-51. Bibliotheca Mesopotamica: Primary sources and interpretive analyses for the study of Mesopotamian civilization and its influences from late prehistory to the end of the cuneiform tradition 2. Malibu: Undena Publications, 1981.
  • Gabolde, Marc. D’Akhenaton a Toutankhamon. Lyon and Paris: Université Lumière-Lyon, Institut Archéologie et d’Histoire de l'Antiquité and Diffusion de Boccard, n.d.
  • Sachs, Abraham J. Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts from Babylonia VII: Almanacs and Normal Star Almanacs. Edited by Hunger, Hermann. Österreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften: Denkschriften der Gesamtakademie 466. Wien: Verlag der Österreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften, 2014.
  • Sachs, Abraham J. and Hunger, Hermann. Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts from Babylonia.  Volume II: Diaries from 261 B.C. to 165 B.C. Wien: Verlag der Osterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1989.
  • Hunger, Hermann and Pingree, David. MUL.APIN: An Astronomical Compendium in Cuneiform. Archiv für Orientforschung Beiheft 24. Horn: Verlag Ferdinand Berger & Sohne, 1989.
  • Hunger, Hermann. Astrology and Other Predictions in Mesopotamia: Mesopotamian Astronomy in the Achaemenid and Hellenistic Periods. Roma: Istituto Italiano per l’Africa e l'Oriente, n.d.
  • Britton, John P. “Calendars, Intercalations and Year-Lengths in Mesopotamian Astronomy.” in Calendars and Years: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient Near East, edited by Steele, John M., 115–132. Oxford: Oxbow Books, 2007.
  • Reiner, Erica. Astral Magic in Babylonia. Transactions of the American Philosophical Society 85. Philadelphia: The American Philosophical Society, 85:4, 1995.
  • Reiner, Erica and Pingree, David. Babylonian Planetary Omens, Part Three. Cuneiform Monographs 11. Groningen: Styx, 1998.

Please let me know how your research goes. I am personally interested in Mesopotamian astronomy. You might want to reach out to the Oriental Institute yourself.

Best,

Antwane


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deniz ilgaz

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Jul 1, 2021, 10:18:15 PM7/1/21
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Hi Susanne, 
Thank you very much  for bibliography. We are using CAD dictionary for  translation and I know very well Chicago.In this term (this summer) I am reading only secondary source to know what is what or culturel history of astronomy. Next year I have to comparative study in akkadian and sumerian (for some specific contents also old persian). Now I am not sufficient for two language (sumerian and akkadian). I am now just beginner and next year (3th year) I will be  (I hope) sufficient. First I have to read and write (with cuneiform signs) from their orginal languages. Mr.  Bayram is very good (and highly sufficient adviser) teacher for this. I will read when I feel ready to translate their orginal languages. 
So I know its too complex, difficult. But I will try my best. 
I will send you as soon as possible. 
Thank you for your support, 
Be health 
Deniz 

Antwane Lee <antwa...@gmail.com>, 2 Tem 2021 Cum, 03:27 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

Susanne M Hoffmann

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:03:06 AM7/2/21
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Dear Deniz,

thank you, it wasn't me. I did not send the list of standard literature, thank Antwane. All the enlisted literature does not provide any research on the positions and identification of constellations.

It depends on what topic you are interested in particular: The list includes various literature - on astrology, on mathematics, on observations, ... it does, unfortunately, not include my writings. My book
Hoffmann, Hipparchs Himmelsglobus, Springer, Wiesbaden/New York, 2017
would be a relevant addition: It is a research on transfer and transformation of astrometry from Mesopotamia to Greece and it includes all the astronomical basics. Unfortunately, I had been forced to write it in German (university rule) but you can get it online from SpringerLink and translate the relevant parts with DEEPL
https://www.deepl.com/translator

For Stellarium we need information on identifications of constellations which is not in the enlisted literature. This is my postdoc research and also not in the list because it is too recent and not yet published in a book but in several papers and conference proceedings. Currently, I am working with international teams of colleagues in Germany, the U.S., the Netherlands and in Israel.

I also do not live in Chicago but in Jena, Germany; I came here as a postdoc.
Am working with our local professor for assyriology, Manfred Krebernik. Before, I had been working with Mathieu Ossendrijver (Berlin) and Hermann Hunger (Vienna) and, of course, I know John Steele (Providence) and Alexander Jones (NY), Francesca Rochberg (San Francisco), Lis Brack-Bernsen (Regensburg) and many other authors in this list.

thank you Antwane and Deniz

The best,
Susanne 

Susanne M Hoffmann

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:25:05 AM7/2/21
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you might also want to perceive my writings: 

deniz ilgaz

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:43:48 AM7/2/21
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I think someone who has bad kind of fake ability and  also has bad habits running mailserver you and me.
I am very sorry to this
and thank you for your mail.

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