Alternatives to STC Israel Website Forums
Moshe Chertoff
Shalom,
This is an appeal to your creative side. I'm asking that you suggest alternative avenues that might replace our Forums.
We've seen little activity in the Forums and are open to other ideas. This discussion group should serve as a sounding block for the ideas. You are welcome to invite others into the ring. They need not be members of the STC to offer ideas. However, they should join this Google Group to best participate in the discussion.
We're investigating online communities, such as facebook, LinkedIn online business network, etc. as one direction. Let's hear what you have to say.
All the best,
Moshe Chertoff
STC Israel Webmaster
Technical Communication Team Leader
Biosense Webster (Israel), Ltd.
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Svi Ben-Elya
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Moshe Chertoff
Good morning to all,
Svi, your tireless efforts to pull more away from the STC never cease to...never cease. In the future, please use the Regional Groups Forum for promoting your group. Had you offered to envelope your online frameworks into the STC, we would be appreciative.
However, this was not the purpose of my opening of the discussion and I will clarify.
We are looking for alternatives to the framework of our Forums, not alternatives to the STC! I asked for "creative," not as in "competitive," but as in "unconventional." We know of the "other" privately run groups that exist for TCs in Israel; and they are not alternatives to our non-profit, international, professional organization. We are pleased that regional and other groups are there for our members. Ken yirbu !
We are looking for alternative formats (blogs, wikis, online communities, etc.) for presenting the wide range of topics for discussion and presentation we currently offer in our Forums structure, and more. They currently include:
- Chapter Info
- STC Israel News & Events
- Conventions
- STC Israel Business
- Volunteering Opportunities
- Memorial Pages
- Car Pools
- Regional Groups (Hi Svi)
- STC World Wide
- Members Only Resources
- Employment
- Courses / Seminars / Ads
- Technical Communication: Off Topic
- Local Special Interest Groups
Have a great day,
Moshe Chertoff
STC Israel Webmaster
Jonathan Plutchok
Moshe, I think you have been quite unfair to Svi. Rather than assume that he was trying to pull members away from the STC, why not assume that he simply responded to your request for help, with a potentially useful offer of actual help using the existing Elephant.org.il framework?
I am not party to any behind-the-scenes rivalries or machinations that might exist among the various Israeli TC groups, but what I saw on the surface in your message to Svi was quite rude.
Moreover, I think a retort such as yours to Svi, even if it were justified, should be send privately, and not to the entire list. Likewise, I would have sent this comment to you privately if the matter were not already on the list.
Despite all this, as an STC member of long standing, I wish you well in your efforts on behalf of the STC and the Israeli TC community.
Jonathan Plutchok
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Debbie Pulver
Thank you Moshe, for your tireless efforts and volunteerism for STC Israel!!
As someone who formerly volunteered for the STC Israel web site, I would like to support Moshe's comments. It seems totally idiotic that there are private lists/web sites operating in Israel when everyone could swallow their egos and combine their efforts and expertise under one roof and save duplication.
In addition, the other TC lists/groups in Israel act under the guise of non-profit communities when in fact they are, in my opinion, a façade for promoting and marketing privately owned enterprises. Let's just call a spade a spade. If other lists/web sites/groups want to operate, that's perfectly legitimate. But don't go trying to promote yourselves as alternatives to STC, when in fact you are just promoting yourselves.
Now that I've added my 2 agorots' worth, we can kill this thread ;-)
My idea for a replacement to Forums....how about a monthly/bi-monthly HTML-based newsletter, with options to add comments/responses to the items in the newsletter (links from the articles to our web site?) - similar to the newsletters that STC main office sends us?
Personally (and I think there may be more like me), I just don't have the time to browse through forums and participate in discussions. If something arrives in my inbox, there is a slightly greater chance that I will take a peek at it.
Debbie Pulver
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