Monckmeier correspondences

[proscriptus]

I've just uploaded a large file of documents I received from the man
who bought Gus Monckmeier's business in the Sixties. He never knew
Gus, but some Staver stuff made it down the years. Joe and Timmins
have seen this, but its otherwise new.

Essentially everything I know about Gus is here, by the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Monckmeier

Dave

PS: Greg, while it's no Staver, your project sounds just about as far
along as my '31 Chevy. Of course, it's just a wee bit easier to come
up with Chevrolet information than Staver.

[David B. Traver Adolphus]

Thanks Al,

 

Somewhere in my files are some correspondences between Dan Teetor and the Stavers; I'm in touch with Dan's nephew Jackson Teetor, who has some reminiscences about Staver (mostly, that Dan didn't think much of Harry B.). I'll scan them when I'm back in the office next week.

 

I believe Jack has quite a few Teetor documents, and of course Marjorie Teetor Meyer wrote a book about Ralph; she's still alive and well, and has a lot of documents herself. I think both have email, I'll see about inviting them to the group.

 

I spent some time in a 50/60hp Teetor-powered American recently, which also didn't have such a great reputation. We (Hemmings) did an extensive feature in SIA on a '26 McFarlan TV roadster with that engine in 1990; let me know if you're interested and I can scan that, too. Kind of funny that with a bad reputation for unreliability that Teetor could make engines for decades, but I suppose your choices for big-displacement engines were limited, and I think the Teetors were probably affordable.

 

As I recall, Teetor spent some time at National, too. I recommend the Horseless Carriage Foundation Library (separate form the HCCA) for anyone researching old cars; they're doing a great job digitizing their collection and it's online for members. http://www.hcfi.org/.

 

Merry Christmas,

Dave

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From: oldca...@aol.com [mailto:oldca...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:54 PM
To: prosc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Monckmeier correspondences

Dave,

 

Nice job on forming this group and your work on the Staver time line is fabulous. I can't believe how you found out all of that info, incredible!! It will be interesting what comes out of this group.

 

 I was doing a search for Teetor engines a couple of weeks ago. We have a McFarlan in the shop with one of the last Teetor motors. It is a 572ci six rated at 90hp. And what a brute it is. McFarlan would be another make you would find very interesting to research.  Small company that lasted a fairly long time. Maybe 20 cars survive today. In their day, McFarlan was the car to own for the Hollywood stars. Funny thing is that the build quality is terrible. Pierce Arrow was 10 times a better car in everyway. Interesting though is the interface of the Teetors in both companies.

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work.

 

AL Murray

Dave

PS: Greg, while it's no Staver, your project sounds just about as far
along as my '31 Chevy. Of course, it's just a wee bit easier to come
up with Chevrolet information than Staver.

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Dave,

 

The McFarlan TV motor is not the same as the 1919 motors and I don't think they are Teetors. What I found was that Teetor Engine Co. was sold in 1918. The TV was a four valve motor with a triple ignition. The 1919 is a two valve motor and looks like the earlier motors. It is coming apart right now. We are just about to pull the motor  out of the chassis. This is a former Harrah's cars sold at one of the three auctions after Harrah's death and went to Long Island, NY. The car is now owned by the Fountainhead Car Museum in Fairbanks, Alaska. This car was originally owned by Wallace Reid, silent film star who died in 1923.

 

AL