[Next Project] Poetry, by George MacDonald

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Since no one else has picked it up, and since all the poetry rules are still (somewhat) fresh in my mind, I'd like to start the George MacDonald poetry collection, after my current project is complete.

Spreadsheet: George MacDonald — Works

Primary sources: The Poetical Works of George MacDonald in Two Volumes

Scans: Volume I Volume II

Transcripts: Volume I Volume II

Of the 439 poems, 18 are missing transcripts, but they are relatively short poems totaling only about 2,000 words.

For the cover, I like “The Bard” by John Martin (ca.1817).

[Alex Cabal]

OK, sure. There are quite a few items on that spreadsheet that are
marked as poetry but not proposed for the omnibus. Why is that?

Please send a link once you start.

On 12/9/25 11:52 AM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Since no one else has picked it up, and since all the poetry rules are
> still (somewhat) fresh in my mind, I'd like to start the George
> MacDonald poetry collection, after my current project is complete.
>
>

> Spreadsheet: George MacDonald — Works <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/d/1BcKbCc9s08jOdEaRbuRIelPDqwvM3TxTAFl2NcJgrI8/edit?
> usp=sharing>

>
> Primary sources: The Poetical Works of George MacDonald in Two Volumes
>

> Scans: Volume I <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uiug.30112005650350>Volume II <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uiug.30112097999715&seq=9>
>
> Transcripts: Volume I <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9543>Volume II
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9984>

>
>
> Of the 439 poems, 18 are missing transcripts, but they are relatively
> short poems totaling only about 2,000 words.
>

> For the cover, I like “The Bard” by John Martin (ca.1817) <https://
> collections.britishart.yale.edu/catalog/tms:923>.
>
>
> Screenshot from 2025-12-09 12-36-13.png
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[Alex Cabal]

A repo link, I mean

On 12/9/25 11:52 AM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:

> Since no one else has picked it up, and since all the poetry rules are
> still (somewhat) fresh in my mind, I'd like to start the George
> MacDonald poetry collection, after my current project is complete.
>
>

> Spreadsheet: George MacDonald — Works <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/d/1BcKbCc9s08jOdEaRbuRIelPDqwvM3TxTAFl2NcJgrI8/edit?
> usp=sharing>

>
> Primary sources: The Poetical Works of George MacDonald in Two Volumes
>

> Scans: Volume I <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uiug.30112005650350>Volume II <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uiug.30112097999715&seq=9>
>
> Transcripts: Volume I <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9543>Volume II
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9984>
>
>

> Of the 439 poems, 18 are missing transcripts, but they are relatively
> short poems totaling only about 2,000 words.
>

[Charles B Bowman]

So those are translations from other poets, namely:

Novalis
Friedrich Schiller
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Ludwig Uhland
Heinrich Heine
Johann Gaudenz von Salis-Seewis
Matthias Claudius
Petrus Augustus de Génestet
Petrarch
John Milton
Martin Luther

 

Should any of these be left out of the collection?

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[Alex Cabal]

Yes, leave them out, since they would go in an omnibus for those other
poets. However do make a note of this in the spreadsheet so this
question doesn't come up again.

On 12/9/25 8:07 PM, Charles B Bowman wrote:
> So those are translations from other poets, namely:
> Novalis
> Friedrich Schiller
> Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
> Ludwig Uhland
> Heinrich Heine
> Johann Gaudenz von Salis-Seewis
> Matthias Claudius
> Petrus Augustus de Génestet
> Petrarch
> John Milton
> Martin Luther
> Should any of these be left out of the collection?
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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Understood.

Repo: https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry

[Alex Cabal]

OK, David will manage with Robin reviewing.

> > Scans: Volume I <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt>?

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> <https://babel.hathitrust.org/>
> > cgi/pt?
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> >

> > Transcripts: Volume I <https://www.gutenberg.org/ <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/>
> > ebooks/9543>Volume II
> > <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9984 <https://

> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9984>>
> >
> >
> > Of the 439 poems, 18 are missing transcripts, but they are
> > relatively
> > short poems totaling only about 2,000 words.
> >
> > For the cover, I like “The Bard” by John Martin (ca.1817) <https://

> > collections.britishart.yale.edu/catalog/tms:923 <http://

> collections.britishart.yale.edu/catalog/tms:923>>.
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[David]

Okay! The proposed cover looks quite MacDonald-ish to me. I took a quick scan of the poems' titles, and it looks like that image would suit them: can you confirm that's the case? (I've gone ahead and assigned it in the DB in any case.) Thanks.

David / Fife, UK

[Charlie Bowman]

I can confirm it is the case. Take a look at "The Journey":

"Hills retreating on each hand
Slowly sink into the plain;
Solemn through the outspread land
Rolls the river to the main.
In the glooming of the night
Something through the dusky air
Doubtful glimmers, faintly white,
But I know not what or where.

Is it but a chalky ridge
Bared of sod, like tree of bark?
Or a river-spanning bridge
Miles away into the dark?
Or the foremost leaping waves
Of the everlasting sea,
Where the Undivided laves
Time with its eternity?

Is it but an eye-made sight,
In my brain a fancied gleam?
Or a faint aurora-light
From the sun's tired smoking team?
In the darkness it is gone,
Yet with every step draws nigh;
Known shall be the thing unknown
When the morning climbs the sky!

Onward, onward through the night
Matters it I cannot see?
I am moving in a might
Dwelling in the dark and me!
End or way I cannot lose—
Grudge to rest, or fear to roam;
All is well with wanderer whose
Heart is travelling hourly home."

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[David Reimer]

Wonderful stuff! Thanks for confirming.

[Charlie Bowman]

Is that crop OK, or should Mr Bard be bigger?

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[David]

You can play around with it — my hunch is that if you come in much tighter, you lose the gorge, and don't gain much Bard. Up to you, though!

On Thursday, 11 December 2025 at 18:22:42 UTC CBB wrote:

Is that crop OK, or should Mr Bard be bigger?

[Charlie Bowman]

That was my thought too. I'll try a few variations.

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[Charlie Bowman]

Several of his poems were originally published within a non-poetic work before later being compiled with his other poetry. Do I need to exclude any poems that are already published by SE within a non-poetic work (like "Phantastes") or might be in the future ("Paul Faber, Surgeon," "Wilfrid Cumbermede," and "Within and Without"?)

I'm guessing it's fine to include these, but I wanted to check, just in case.

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[Alex Cabal]

We don't want to maintain duplicates. If they are part of a separate
work, like an epigraph, then they can stay there.

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[Charlie Bowman]

Sounds good. I'll exclude them.

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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Some poems have inline section labels. Should these be normalized to SE style (centered headers)?

Example:

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Reviewing further, these are more accurately "stanza" labels, if that matters.

[David]

My inclination would be to leave these as-is, rather than move them into headers which, since this is poetry, will not end up being very "centered" in any case.

I see a couple poems on from this one (*always* good to get a link to source with these sorts of questions!), there *are* in fact "headers" of this kind, which suggests to me that it was a decision for this poem *not* to use them. (I notice, too, that there is no Roman-1 with the first stanza, FWIW.)

`se lint` might want to be rid of the full-stops with these Roman numerals, in which case an "ignore" would be in order.

That's my sense, anyway. If any of our resident poetry experts (Emma? Weijia?) care to offer a view, that would be welcome! :)

[Weijia Cheng]

Personally, I would standardize the formatting by centering those stanza labels. The inline formatting looks like it would be finicky and I don't see any strong reason for keeping it. But I would defer to Emma's opinion if she has one. 

[Alex Cabal]

I agree

On 12/16/25 2:36 PM, 'Weijia Cheng' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> Personally, I would standardize the formatting by centering those stanza
> labels. The inline formatting looks like it would be finicky and I don't
> see any strong reason for keeping it. But I would defer to Emma's
> opinion if she has one.
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2025 at 3:29:27 PM UTC-5 David wrote:
>
> My inclination would be to leave these as-is, rather than move them
> into headers which, since this is poetry, will not end up being very
> "centered" in any case.
>

> I see a couple poems on <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uiug.30112097999715&seq=227> from this one (*always* good to get

> a link to source with these sorts of questions!), there *are* in
> fact "headers" of this kind, which suggests to me that it was a
> decision for this poem *not* to use them. (I notice, too, that there
> is no Roman-1 with the first stanza, FWIW.)
>
> `se lint` might want to be rid of the full-stops with these Roman
> numerals, in which case an "ignore" would be in order.
>
> That's my sense, anyway. If any of our resident poetry experts
> (Emma? Weijia?) care to offer a view, that would be welcome! :)
>
> On Tuesday, 16 December 2025 at 19:06:41 UTC c.b.b. wrote:
>
> Reviewing further, these are more accurately "stanza" labels, if
> that matters.
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2025 at 12:58:05 PM UTC-5 ʗharlie
> ßowman wrote:
>
>
> Some poems have inline section labels. Should these be
> normalized to SE style (centered headers)?
>
> Example:
>

> Screenshot from 2025-12-16 12-52-56.png

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[Emma Sweeney]

Some poets use inline headers for stanzas that use verse-paragraph styling, which looks like this is the case for "The Haunted House." Usually, these are standardized to be in <header>s and centered. You can indent the first line of the each stanza.

Emma

[David]

Thanks, all! Now we know. :)

D.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Thanks all!

I have a few odd questions about this work:
"A Book of Stife in the Form of a Diary of an Old Soul" scan transcript (in case IA is down, downloaded scan)

It is comprised of one chapter for each month of the year and one short poem for each day of the year.

1) I tried to determine if any part of that long title could be considered a subtitle.

Three hints make me think that "The Diary of an Old Soul" can be the "title" and "A Book of Stife in the Form of" a kind of "pre" subtitle.

i) The typesetting has "A Diary of an Old Soul" in larger font

ii) The first "chapter / month" has "A Diary of an Old Soul" at the top.

iii) Every page has "A Diary of an Old Soul" centered in the top margin.

So I guess my questions are, is that correct, and if so, should I format the subtitle normally, but have it preceed the title in the header?

2) The original publication did not have a ToC, but since it is 20k+ words, and has natural divisions, I thought it would make sense to add each chapter/month as a ToC entry. Is that appropriate?

3) The dedication is a short poem referencing how the work was published, with every other page being blank for the reader to write their own reflections as they read. The PG transcribers added an explanatory note, which I assumed we would cut. However I thought it might be worthwhile to add our own endnote with a similar explanation.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

small corrections:

i) The typesetting has "The Diary of an Old Soul" in larger font

ii) The first "chapter / month" has "The Diary of an Old Soul" at the top.

iii) Every page has "Diary of an Old Soul" centered in the top margin.

[David]

(1) Title - yes, I think that's right. The British Library's entry for a 1905 printing lists only _The Diary of an Old Soul_ as title.

MY sense (fallible) is that in content.opf, the subtitle field should list: "A Book of Strife", so omitting "in the form of".  My reasoning is that we have, on occasion (IIRC) omitted "Or,..." when that is simply a link word between title and subtitle, and this phrase fills that same slot.

(2) Yes, marking up the headings with `<h3>` (or whatever) should (as I understand it) get them included in the ToC. This makes no change to the *text* of the original itself.

(3) If you think an endnote works best, that could be added (Editorial) signed by the "SE Editor". However, an alternative would simply be to provide this information in a production note in content.opf, and that would be easier.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Awesome, thanks!

There are twenty or so poems in Scots. Here's an example:

I understand that non-English language works are barred. However, I would like to include them for the following reasons:

1) Scots straddles the boundary between dialect and language, so it somewhat intelligible to English speakers.
2) Scots is categorized as a vulnerable language by UNESCO.
3) They are beautiful to read aloud, even though I'm only getting about 80% of the words.

[Alex Cabal]

Let's exclude those for now. As you note we don't work on non-English.
Personally that poem is not intelligible to me; and "endangered status"
and "I think it's beautiful" don't satisfy me as reasons for an
exception here.

On 1/14/26 12:04 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Awesome, thanks!
>

> There are twenty or so poems in Scots <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Scots_language>. Here's an example:

> Screenshot from 2026-01-14 12-23-06.png
> I understand that non-English language works are barred. However, I
> would like to include them for the following reasons:
>
> 1) Scots straddles the boundary between dialect and language, so it
> somewhat intelligible to English speakers.
> 2) Scots is categorized as a vulnerable language by UNESCO.
> 3) They are beautiful to read aloud, even though I'm only getting about
> 80% of the words.
>
> On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 9:50:02 AM UTC-5 David wrote:
>
> (1) Title - yes, I think that's right. The British Library's entry

> <https://catalogue.bl.uk/permalink/44BL_MAIN/n6kovr/
> alma990075629640109251> for a 1905 printing lists only _The Diary of

> <https://archive.org/details/bookofstrifeinfo00macd>
> transcript <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1953> (in case
> IA is down, downloaded scan <https://drive.google.com/file/
> d/1JPr3jae6FXadlKb6ciGMxL8PllQ6h6yy/view?usp=drive_link>)

> It is comprised of one chapter for each month of the year
> and one short poem for each day of the year.
>
> 1) I tried to determine if any part of that long title could
> be considered a subtitle.
> Three hints make me think that "The Diary of an Old Soul"
> can be the "title" and "A Book of Stife in the Form of" a
> kind of "pre" subtitle.
>
> i) The typesetting has "A Diary of an Old Soul" in larger font
> ii) The first "chapter / month" has "A Diary of an Old Soul"
> at the top.
> iii) Every page has "A Diary of an Old Soul" centered in the
> top margin.
>
> So I guess my questions are, is that correct, and if so,
> should I format the subtitle normally, but have it preceed
> the title in the header?
>

> Screenshot from 2025-12-22 09-09-41.png
> Screenshot from 2025-12-22 09-10-19.png

> Screenshot from 2025-12-22 09-10-46.png
>
> 2) The original publication did not have a ToC, but since it
> is 20k+ words, and has natural divisions, I thought it would
> make sense to add each chapter/month as a ToC entry. Is that
> appropriate?
>
> 3) The dedication is a short poem referencing how the work
> was published, with every other page being blank for the
> reader to write their own reflections as they read. The PG
> transcribers added an explanatory note, which I assumed we
> would cut. However I thought it might be worthwhile to add
> our own endnote with a similar explanation.
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2025 at 4:52:55 PM UTC-5 David wrote:
>
> Thanks, all! Now we know. :)
>
> D.
>
> On Tuesday, 16 December 2025 at 21:38:29 UTC Emma
> Sweeney wrote:
>
> Some poets use inline headers for stanzas that use

> verse-paragraph styling <https://standardebooks.org/
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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Sounds good!

[ʗharlie ßowman]

The poem "Willie's Question" is a dialogue between between two characters. The stanzas are broken-up with centered, italicized text indicating who is speaking, like this:


My first thought was to consider these as very short bridgeheads, like this:

      <div>                                                                    
        <header>                                                                
          <p epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</p>                            
        </header>                                                              
        <div>                                                                  
          <header>                                                              
              <p epub:type="bridgehead">Willie speaks.</p>
          </header>                                                            
          <p>                                                                  
            <span>I meant the boys at school,</span>                            
            <br/>                                                              
            <span class="i1">I did not mean my brother.</span>                  
            <br/>                                                              
            <span>Somebody first, is there the rule⁠— </span>                    
            <br/>                                                              
            <span class="i1">It must be me or another.</span>                  
          </p>                                                                  
        </div>                                                                  
        <div>                                                                  
          <header>                                                              
            <p epub:type="bridgehead"> The Father answers.</p>                                                                
          </header>                                                            
          <p>                                                                  
            <span>Oh, Willie, it’s all the same!</span>                        
            <br/>                                                              
            <span class="i1">They are your brothers all;</span>                
            <br/>                                                              
            <span>For when you say, “Hallowed be thy name!”</span>              
            <br/>                                                              
            <span class="i1">Whose Father is it you call?</span>                
          </p>  

Is that the right way to format these?

[David]

I don't think there's any need for "bridgehead" semantics (mostly because they're not!) - this should do, I think:

```

<header role="presentation">
<p>Willie speaks.</p>
</header>
```

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Got it, thanks!

[ʗharlie ßowman]

One poem is titled "Hom. IL. v. 403."

This looks like an abbreviated citation of Homer's Iliad, but I wasn't sure how to handle the nested abbr and i tags. Is this correct?
<h3 epub:type="title"><abbr epub:type="z3998:given-name">Hom.</abbr> <i epub:type="se:name.publication.book"><abbr>Il.</abbr></i> <span epub:type="z3998:roman">V</span> 403</h3>

[David]

That looks OK to me; it turns out there's a precedent for that markup (pretty much) in the corpus already.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Last (hopefully) few questions before I'm ready to hand this off for review:

1) "Abu Midjan" includes the word "Tecbir" twice. This is tagged as <i xml:lang=ar-Latn>, which I think follows similar examples in the corpus. My question is should the spelling be modernized, and if so should it be "Takbir" or "Takbīr?" wikipedia page for takbir

2) One of the many ways italics are used in these poems is to distinguish spoken words (instead of quotation marks.) In these cases, is an editorial commit changing to quotation marks correct? ("Abu Midjan" is one example with a lot of this.)

3) "A Threefold Cord" is a collection of poems, privately printed, and included in the primary omnibus source I'm using. In all the scans I've found, George MacDonald is listed as the editor, but no authors are explicitly named. The subtitle of the work is "Poems by Three Friends" and the dedication references a collaboration. All the information I've found claims that the work was a jointly written by George, his brother John Hill MacDonald, and his son Greville Matheson MacDonald. The best evidence I've found of this is from this paper from St. Norbert College, about the Armstrong Browning Library's George MacDonald Collection, which includes this note on page 11.

"Raphael Shaberman, in George MacDonald: A Bibliographical Study, identifies the three friends as George MacDonald, his brother John Hill MacDonald, and Greville Ewing Matheson (Shaberman, p. 77)."

Should we list the other two contributors in any way? My thought would be to a short endnote, and ctb records in the meta-data.

[David]

1. Let's go with the `xml:lang="ar-Latn"` markup: it's not quite "sound-alike", and `tecbir` is a recognized pronunciation, it seems.

2. Yes, that's `[Editorial]`.

3. You could include the additional authors after your `hgroup` in a header + byline like this one. I don't think we need an endnote for this.

And yes, they can be included in the metadata as you suggest.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

3) Is this what you mean?
      <header>                                                                  
        <hgroup>                                                                
          <h2 epub:type="title">A Threefold Cord</h2>                          
          <p epub:type="subtitle">Poems by Three Friends</p>                        
        </hgroup>                                                                    
        <p epub:type="contributors">By George MacDonald, John Hill MacDonald, and Greville Matheson MacDonald</p>
      </header>  

[David]

Yes, that's what I had in mind.

I re-read your #3 query again after posting that, and it does read like these are *collaborations", rather than a collection of poems individually authored by three different people.

I'm not 100% sure whether that difference is material for our purposes, but my sense is that this style of attribution works, given what you've reported about "A Threefold Cord".

Hope that makes sense!

[David]

And ... looking again as I send that previous message - I wonder whether what you have as "subtitle" is really a subtitle? Maybe it should be displaced by the "new" `contributors` line?

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Having two "By . . . " lines does read a bit awkwardly. 

[ʗharlie ßowman]

OK Robin, this is ready for review. 
https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry

[Robin Whittleton]

Thanks, will try to get to this today.

-Robin

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Sorry for the slight delay, a few small issues filed at https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1.

-Robin

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[Robin Whittleton]

OK Alex, this is ready for you.

-Robin

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[Alex Cabal]

This ebook was produced by C. B. Bowman. Thanks Charlie!

Ebook URL: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/george-macdonald/poetry

GitHub URL: https://github.com/standardebooks/george-macdonald_poetry

[Alex Cabal]

OK, looks good, I've released it, thanks! Great work on a very, very
large and complicated production.

Now that this is released, can you update the spreadsheet to check off
all of the items you included in this omnibus?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BcKbCc9s08jOdEaRbuRIelPDqwvM3TxTAFl2NcJgrI8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

On 1/25/26 11:33 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> OK Alex, this is ready for you.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 25 Jan 2026, at 16:33, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the slight delay, a few small issues filed at https://

>> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <https://
>> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1>.

>>
>> -Robin
>>
>>> On 24 Jan 2026, at 05:31, ʗharlie ßowman <c.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK Robin, this is ready for review.

>>> https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <https://
>>> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry>

>>> arecognized pronunciation <https://
>>> www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/
>>> acref/9780199891573.001.0001/acref-9780199891573-
>>> e-7019>, it seems.

>>>
>>> 2. Yes, that's `[Editorial]`.
>>>
>>> 3. You could include the additional authorsafter

>>> your `hgroup` <https://github.com/cbbowman/
>>> george-macdonald_poetry/blob/
>>> dd8c13fd3a580020f27bfb0bc3172b40e6732ec6/src/
>>> epub/text/poetry.xhtml#L36804>in a header +
>>> bylinelike this one <https://github.com/
>>> standardebooks/poul-anderson_short-fiction/blob/
>>> master/src/epub/text/innocent-at-
>>> large.xhtml#L12>. I don't think we need an
>>> endnote for this.
>>> And yes, they can be included <https://
>>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.6/single-
>>> page#9.15.4>in the metadata as you suggest.

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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Sure. I've checked them off in the spreadsheet.

[Alex Cabal]

Thanks! I also see that there are a lot of entries in the spreadsheet
which are poems by other people that Macdonald translated. Can you
remove those from this spreadsheet? They would instead belong in
spreadsheets for the actual authors. In this spreadsheet, we're only
interested in works which Macdonald actually authored.

On 1/28/26 12:33 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Sure. I've checked them off in the spreadsheet.
>
> On Sunday, January 25, 2026 at 6:55:31 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, looks good, I've released it, thanks! Great work on a very, very
> large and complicated production.
>
> Now that this is released, can you update the spreadsheet to check off
> all of the items you included in this omnibus?
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
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>
> On 1/25/26 11:33 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > OK Alex, this is ready for you.
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >> On 25 Jan 2026, at 16:33, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry for the slight delay, a few small issues filed at https://

> >> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://
> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1> <https://
> >> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://

> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1>>.
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >>> On 24 Jan 2026, at 05:31, ʗharlie ßowman <c.b.b...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> OK Robin, this is ready for review.
> >>> https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <https://

> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry> <https://
> >>> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <http://github.com/

> >>> www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/ <http://

> www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/>
> >>> acref/9780199891573.001.0001/acref-9780199891573-
> >>> e-7019>, it seems.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Yes, that's `[Editorial]`.
> >>>
> >>> 3. You could include the additional authorsafter

> >>> your `hgroup` <https://github.com/cbbowman/ <https://
> github.com/cbbowman/>

> >>> george-macdonald_poetry/blob/
> >>> dd8c13fd3a580020f27bfb0bc3172b40e6732ec6/src/
> >>> epub/text/poetry.xhtml#L36804>in a header +

> >>> bylinelike this one <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>

> >>> standardebooks/poul-anderson_short-fiction/blob/
> >>> master/src/epub/text/innocent-at-
> >>> large.xhtml#L12>. I don't think we need an
> >>> endnote for this.
> >>> And yes, they can be included <https://

> >>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.6/single- <http://

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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Done.

[Alex Cabal]

Thanks!

On 1/28/26 1:51 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Done.
>
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2026 at 1:45:52 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Thanks! I also see that there are a lot of entries in the spreadsheet
> which are poems by other people that Macdonald translated. Can you
> remove those from this spreadsheet? They would instead belong in
> spreadsheets for the actual authors. In this spreadsheet, we're only
> interested in works which Macdonald actually authored.
>
> On 1/28/26 12:33 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> > Sure. I've checked them off in the spreadsheet.
> >
> > On Sunday, January 25, 2026 at 6:55:31 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK, looks good, I've released it, thanks! Great work on a very, very
> > large and complicated production.
> >
> > Now that this is released, can you update the spreadsheet to
> check off
> > all of the items you included in this omnibus?

> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>
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> > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>

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> >
> > On 1/25/26 11:33 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > > OK Alex, this is ready for you.
> > >
> > > -Robin
> > >
> > >> On 25 Jan 2026, at 16:33, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the slight delay, a few small issues filed at https://
> > >> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://

> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1> <http://

> > github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://
> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1>> <https://
> > >> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://

> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1> <http://

> > github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1 <http://
> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry/issues/1>>>.
> > >>
> > >> -Robin
> > >>
> > >>> On 24 Jan 2026, at 05:31, ʗharlie ßowman <c.b.b...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> OK Robin, this is ready for review.
> > >>> https://github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <https://
> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry> <https://
> > github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <http://github.com/
> cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry>> <https://
> > >>> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry <http://

> github.com/cbbowman/george-macdonald_poetry> <http://github.com/

> www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/> <http://

> > www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/ <http://
> www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/>>
> > >>> acref/9780199891573.001.0001/acref-9780199891573-
> > >>> e-7019>, it seems.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. Yes, that's `[Editorial]`.
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. You could include the additional authorsafter
> > >>> your `hgroup` <https://github.com/cbbowman/ <https://

> github.com/cbbowman/> <https://
> > github.com/cbbowman/ <http://github.com/cbbowman/>>

> > >>> george-macdonald_poetry/blob/
> > >>> dd8c13fd3a580020f27bfb0bc3172b40e6732ec6/src/
> > >>> epub/text/poetry.xhtml#L36804>in a header +
> > >>> bylinelike this one <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/
> > <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>
> > >>> standardebooks/poul-anderson_short-fiction/blob/
> > >>> master/src/epub/text/innocent-at-
> > >>> large.xhtml#L12>. I don't think we need an
> > >>> endnote for this.
> > >>> And yes, they can be included <https://
> > >>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.6/single- <http://

> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.6/single-> <http://

> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.6/single- <http://
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