[Next Project] Jibby Jones by Ellis Parker Butler

[Sergio Tellez]

Hello.

I would like to add the novel "Jibby Jones" by Ellis Parker Butler to the SE ebook catalogue.

Scans: Internet Archive

Transcription: Project Gutenberg

GitHub Repo: STellez71124-UC/ellis-parker-butler_jibby-jones
Installed Software: SE Toolset 2.10.2 | Python 3.12.4

I would also like to propose the painting "A Country Lad" by Winslow Homer as a potential cover. Thank you!

[Alex Cabal]

OK, sure. Vince will manage with David reviewing. Cover looks good, I'll
add it to the DB.

On 12/30/25 9:41 PM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I would like to add the novel "Jibby Jones" by Ellis Parker Butler to
> the SE ebook catalogue.
>

> Scans: Internet Archive <https://archive.org/details/
> jibbyjonesstoryo00butl_0/page/n9/mode/2up>
> Transcription: Project Gutenberg <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76547>
> GitHub Repo: STellez71124-UC/ellis-parker-butler_jibby-jones <https://
> github.com/STellez71124-UC/ellis-parker-butler_jibby-jones>

> Installed Software: SE Toolset 2.10.2 | Python 3.12.4
>
> I would also like to propose the painting "A Country Lad" by Winslow

> Homer <https://www.si.edu/object/country-lad:chndm_1917-14-2> as a
> potential cover. Thank you!
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[Sergio Tellez]

Hello Vince.

I have a question regarding the illustration used in this book. There's a map that is used twice in the book in page 80 (Internet Archive) and page 186 (Internet Archive) and I'm not sure how to handle this particular case when using selectors and the List of Illustrations.

I think this could be a case where something similar to the SE 8.2.9.3 rule could apply, preparing the code for identical illustration-1 and illustration-2 images and img-alt descriptions, and adding the map to the LoI with accompanying text along the lines of "A handdrawn map that shows a point of interest near a creak" and perhaps omitting its second appearance in the LoI.

Should I go through with this idea, or is there a better way to solve this particular issue that's more in line with SE standards?

[Alex Cabal]

Yes, use the same image and just link it once in the LoI. No sense in
linking an identical image twice. If lint complains add an ignore entry.

On 1/5/26 12:03 PM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
> Hello Vince.
>
> I have a question regarding the illustration used in this book. There's
> a map that is used twice in the book in page 80 (Internet Archive

> <https://archive.org/details/jibbyjonesstoryo00butl_0/page/80/mode/2up>)
> and page 186 (Internet Archive <https://archive.org/details/
> jibbyjonesstoryo00butl_0/page/186/mode/2up>) and I'm not sure how to

> handle this particular case when using selectors and the List of
> Illustrations.
>
> I think this could be a case where something similar to the SE 8.2.9.3
> rule could apply, preparing the code for identical illustration-1 and
> illustration-2 images and img-alt descriptions, and adding the map to
> the LoI with accompanying text along the lines of "A handdrawn map that
> shows a point of interest near a creak" and perhaps omitting its second
> appearance in the LoI.
>
> Should I go through with this idea, or is there a better way to solve
> this particular issue that's more in line with SE standards?
>

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[Sergio Tellez]

Hello David.

The project is ready for review. Happy to rebase, modify or restart if needed.

GitHub Repo: STellez71124-UC/ellis-parker-butler_jibby-jones

Scans: Internet Archive

[David]

Okay! I should be able to get to this in the next day or so.

[David]

I had a chance to look at this this morning. Great job! Just a few things to tweak.

[David]

This is now ready for you, Alex.

[Alex Cabal]

The metadata says this is part of a series and that it "compiles" 24
short stories.

Does this mean that this is a novel with a single plot which is a
COMBINATION of 24 short stories, or is this a compilation of 24
independent short stories?

I can't find much more information about Jibby Jones. What are the rest
of the books in the series? The best reference I could find is
http://www.philsp.com/EllisParkerButler/epb/biblio7d47.html?s=%22Jibby+Jones%22
which at a glance makes it seem like most or all of them are shorts
published in magazines. Is that the case? If so then I think we need to
put a spreadsheet together first before we do anything else, because
depending on what this book is it should perhaps have gone into an
omnibus instead of being its own book.

On 1/17/26 4:54 AM, David wrote:
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> butler_jibby-jones> for you, Alex.

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[Sergio Tellez]

Hello Alex.

The 1923 Jibby Jones novel does appear to be a novel that combines the stories released prior to its publication and anchors them around the land pirate's treasure hunt plot point. 

As far as I'm aware, there are only two standalone books featuring Jibby Jones, being this one and "Jibby Jones and the Alligator" based on the dedicated Ellis Parker Butler website and online databases/retailers such as Ebay, Goodreads and similar services; the adventures published after 1924 only exist in the physical and/or digital archives of the American Boy and Target magazines. I haven't yet read the "Alligator" novel via the digitized copy available on HathiTrust to verify this, but I assume it could follow a similar story structure as its predecessor.

I'm unfamiliar with the spreadsheet/short fiction omnibus production process, but I'm willing to learn along the way if a "Jibby Jones Stories" or "Ellis Parker Butler Short Fiction" is deemed to be a more appropiate presentation of this material.

[Alex Cabal]

OK. Glancing at "JJ and the Alligator", that looks like a regular novel.

Is this "Jibby Jones" book a standalone novel or is it merely a
compilation of 24 short stories? To figure this out you can try finding
the original stories to see if they are significantly different.

If this book is just a compilation then it should go in a "Jibby Jones
Stories" omnibus instead of being a standalone SE ebook.

You can create a spreadsheet to track this. See
https://standardebooks.org/contribute/spreadsheets

Clone our template into your Google account and fill it out with the
Jibby Jones corpus. Then, we can better decide how to approach this book.

On 1/18/26 6:36 PM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
> Hello Alex.
>
> The 1923 Jibby Jones novel does appear to be a novel that combines the
> stories released prior to its publication and anchors them around the
> land pirate's treasure hunt plot point.
>
> As far as I'm aware, there are only two standalone books featuring Jibby
> Jones, being this one and "Jibby Jones and the Alligator" based on the
> dedicated Ellis Parker Butler website and online databases/retailers
> such as Ebay, Goodreads and similar services; the adventures published
> after 1924 only exist in the physical and/or digital archives of the
> American Boy and Target magazines. I haven't yet read the "Alligator"

> novel via the digitized copy available on HathiTrust <https://
> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000897205m&seq=15> to verify

> this, but I assume it could follow a similar story structure as its
> predecessor.
>
> I'm unfamiliar with the spreadsheet/short fiction omnibus production
> process, but I'm willing to learn along the way if a "Jibby Jones
> Stories" or "Ellis Parker Butler Short Fiction" is deemed to be a more
> appropiate presentation of this material.
>

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[Sergio Tellez]

Thanks Alex! I checked the few scans and transcriptions currently available online for the Jibby Jones stories and I believe the ones featured in the 1923 and 1924 books are interconnected to some degree and meant to be read as part of a new standalone publication.

Checking the "Jibby Jones's Treasure Trove" and "Jibby Jones & The Liver Coffee" as featured in American Boy magazine shows that, while the majority of the text remains almost identical in both printings despite being split into two chapters each in their book-form format, the paragraphs that begin each story have changed or outright removed between their magazine and novel presentations.

In the case of "Treasure Trove," the first two paragraphs that served as a "the story so far" introduction (the meeting with the Tough Customer, what happened to the swimming-hole, and the current status of their treasure hunt) have been replaced with two sentences that continue the story as if it were a regular book chapter. (American Boy, January, 1922) (I.A. 1923 Book Scans)

As for "Liver Coffee," the first four paragraphs, which concern their damaged boat and their interest in acquiring money to repair it, have been rephrased to add the element of alligator-hunting as per the central theme of the book. (American Boy, April, 1923) (H.T. 1924 Book Scans)

I also consulted the transcription for another Ellis Parker Butler work, Swatty, and, while I couldn't find digitized scans of its original short story elements at the moment, it seems to follow the same pattern of re-contextualizing the events that happened in each story to share a new or existing overall narrative.

[Alex Cabal]

I don't know anything about Jibby Jones so this explanation is hard for
me to follow.

What we need to know is:

1. Is the book "Jibby Jones" that you just produced, a REWRITE of
several short stories that now has a single cohesive narrative plot, or
is it a COMPILATION of several short stories, that were not
SIGNIFICANTLY rewritten from their original magazine publications, and
that are perhaps only loosely related vignettes? This will determine
whether this book "Jibby Jones" is released as-is or if it has to be
reworked into an omnibus.

2. What does the rest of the Jibby Jones corpus look like? This is what
the spreadsheet is for - I was not aware that Jibby Jones is a series,
or I would have asked you to do this before you started. But for series
like these, we need a spreadsheet listing all of the short stories and
where they appear, so that we can get an idea of what should go in an SE
omnibus and what novelizations can be produced individually.

Naming a handful of stories I have never heard of or read, and some
other unrelated novel the guy wrote, is not useful because I don't know
what's going on. We need a spreadsheet to 1) understand what to do with
this book "Jibby Jones" and 2) make a clear plan for future producers
who want to work on more Jibby Jones stories.

Can you put that together before we continue?

On 1/18/26 10:53 PM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
> Thanks Alex! I checked the few scans and transcriptions currently
> available online for the Jibby Jones stories and I believe the ones
> featured in the 1923 and 1924 books are interconnected to some degree
> and meant to be read as part of a new standalone publication.
>
> Checking the "Jibby Jones's Treasure Trove" and "Jibby Jones & The Liver
> Coffee" as featured in American Boy magazine shows that, while the
> majority of the text remains almost identical in both printings despite
> being split into two chapters each in their book-form format, the
> paragraphs that begin each story have changed or outright removed
> between their magazine and novel presentations.
>
> In the case of "Treasure Trove," the first two paragraphs that served as
> a "the story so far" introduction (the meeting with the Tough Customer,
> what happened to the swimming-hole, and the current status of their
> treasure hunt) have been replaced with two sentences that continue the
> story as if it were a regular book chapter. (American Boy, January,

> 1922) <https://archive.org/details/americanboy213unse/page/26/mode/2up>
> (I.A. 1923 Book Scans) <https://archive.org/details/
> jibbyjonesstoryo00butl_0/page/246/mode/2up>

>
> As for "Liver Coffee," the first four paragraphs, which concern their
> damaged boat and their interest in acquiring money to repair it, have
> been rephrased to add the element of alligator-hunting as per the

> central theme of the book. (American Boy, April, 1923) <https://
> archive.org/details/the-american-boy-v-24n-06-1923-04-jvh-exciter/
> page/16/mode/2up> (H.T. 1924 Book Scans) <https://babel.hathitrust.org/
> cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000897205m&seq=194>

>
> I also consulted the transcription for another Ellis Parker Butler work,

> Swatty <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44154>, and, while I couldn't

> find digitized scans of its original short story elements at the moment,
> it seems to follow the same pattern of re-contextualizing the events
> that happened in each story to share a new or existing overall narrative.
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[Sergio Tellez]

Hello Alex.

This is the spreadsheet I made for the Jibby Jones project. I only included page scans and transcriptions for the text presented as short stories only, omitting the links that apply to the 1923 and 1924 compiled stories hosted on Project Gutenberg, Internet Archive and HathiTrust.

I believe "Remember Rover" could be a part of the 1923 book, but I can't confirm if that's the case.

Google Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VBJPlQLjooJ8Yr4krvh2S-fhapCipIifCYhNuJQ1NQw/edit?usp=sharing

[Alex Cabal]

OK great. I've made a copy of the spreadsheet and added you as an
editor, so please edit our copy from now on and not yours.

I still need this question answered:

Is the book "Jibby Jones" that you just produced, a REWRITE of several
short stories that now has a single cohesive narrative plot, or is it a
COMPILATION of several short stories, that were not SIGNIFICANTLY
rewritten from their original magazine publications, and that are
perhaps only loosely related vignettes? This will determine whether this
book "Jibby Jones" is released as-is or if it has to be reworked into an
omnibus.

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[Sergio Tellez]

Thank you Alex.

Yes, the 1923 Jibby Jones book is a partial rewrite of several short stories released before its publication to create a single cohesive narrative plot, the hunt for hidden pirate treasure. That is also the case for its sequel, Jibby Jones and the Alligator and its animal-hunting narrative.

[Alex Cabal]

OK. So in this Jibby Jones book long description, it says it's a rewrite
of 24 stories. But in the spreadsheet only 9 stories are listed as this
book. So which is it?

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[Sergio Tellez]

Based on what little information I could find, I believe the book follows the structure listed below. Unfortunately, I lack the means to verify the short stories in their entirety, so I  had to rely on the title of the stories, the currently existing American Boy scans and brief descriptions featured in the Ellis Parker Butler tribute website.

Jibby Jones -> Ch. 1 & 2: Oliver Parmenter Jones / The Pearl-Diggers
Jibby Jones and the Rabbit -> Ch. 3 & 4: The Climbing Rabbit / Do Fish Climb Trees?
Jibby Jones and the Fishing Prize -> Ch. 5 & 6: The Fishing Prize / The Prize-Winner
Jibby Jones and the Land Pirate's Treasure -> Ch. 7, 17, 18: The Tough Customer / Grains of Sand / Pirate's Treasure
Remember Rover -> Ch. 8 & 9: The Red-Headed Bandit / The Abduction of Rover
Jibby Jones and the Worm Mine -> Ch. 10 & 12: The Treasure Hunt / The Worm Mine
Jibby Jones and the Grape Tree -> Ch. 15 & 16: The Grape Tree / Congo Magic
Jibby Jones and Orlando -> Ch. 20: Orlando
Jibby Jones' Swimming Pool -> Ch. 21, 22: Winged Enemies / A New Swimming-Hole
Jibby Jones and the Treasure Trove -> Ch. 23, 24: Treasure Trove / The Treasure

Possible Short Story Expansions:
Ch. 11, 13, 14, & 19: Where is Greenland? / The Viking Ship / Uncle Beeswax / The Tough Customer Appears

[Alex Cabal]

Ok  - this has to go in the spreadsheet. We have to note in the spreadsheet which stories are being put in which ebook. Can you do that?

[Sergio Tellez]

Hi. I've added the information I presented in my previous message to the SE spreadsheet, and it now registers 10 completed P.D. items for the omnibus "Jibby Jones". Should I include any additional values or categories?

[Alex Cabal]

The way the spreadsheet works is that each row must be one short story.

So, if in the "Jibby Jones" novel, one chapter is a blend of two
stories, then we would have two rows in the spreadsheet: one for each of
the stories, and then a note saying they were rewritten for this
novelization. The "omnibus" column would say "Jibby Jones" (the title of
this novel) to indicate that that is where we placed this particular
short story.

In the long description it says this novel is a rewrite of 24 stories.
Therefore, we need 24 rows in the spreadsheet, one for each of those
stories, and all of those 24 rows would have the omnibus name set to
"Jibby Jones". Can you do that?

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[Alex Cabal]

While you get that done I'll release this ebook since we determined the
stories are complete rewrites.

Good work on the ebook, thanks!

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[Sergio Tellez]

Thank you Alex.

I'm sorry for all the trouble while working on this production. I'll be more careful when submitting future projects and do more research prior to submitting a ebook project request. I've modified the spreadsheet to include the 24 stories that comprise the 1923 book into their own separate entries. I tried moving them back to the top of the spreadsheet but it mislabels the assigned colors when doing so.

I also noticed a possible typo in the long description of this book, as the word "to" seems to be missing from "the challenges inherent an exciting quest."

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[Alex Cabal]

OK, excellent, I think we're set with this spreadsheet. Thanks!

On 1/23/26 6:04 PM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
> Thank you Alex.
>
> I'm sorry for all the trouble while working on this production. I'll be
> more careful when submitting future projects and do more research prior
> to submitting a ebook project request. I've modified the spreadsheet to
> include the 24 stories that comprise the 1923 book into their own
> separate entries. I tried moving them back to the top of the spreadsheet
> but it mislabels the assigned colors when doing so.
>
> I also noticed a possible typo in the long description of this book, as
> the word "to" seems to be missing from "the challenges inherent an
> exciting quest."
>
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>
> While you get that done I'll release this ebook since we determined the
> stories are complete rewrites.
>
> Good work on the ebook, thanks!
>
> On 1/23/26 12:07 AM, Sergio Tellez wrote:
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