[Next project] Aurora Floyd by Mary Elizabeth Braddon

[David Grigg]

I think I'll tackle this next.

I was amused, when searching for it on the forum, to discover this thread from four years ago when I gave a list of the books I was considering to do next: https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/c/0qkgK5e847c/m/Kgwj5CR4AAAJ

Aurora Floyd is the only one on that list which I haven't yet produced!

[Alex Cabal]

OK! Weijia can you manage this with Robin reviewing?

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[Robin Whittleton]

Will review.

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[Weijia Cheng]

Sounds good, I can manage.

[David Grigg]

Can I put dibs on this painting from our art collection, at least for a while? I haven't yet read the book, but this portrait is of the right period and so far as I can tell so far is a good match for the eponymous main character.

https://standardebooks.org/artworks/alfred-stevens/mary-ann-wife-of-leonard-collman

[Weijia Cheng]

Sure, can you send me the slug so I can put it on the painting?

[David at Standard Ebooks]

By 'slug' I assume you mean: m-e-braddon_aurora-floyd ?

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[David Grigg]

I've changed my mind about the cover image. This one much better fits the appearance and attitude of the character of Aurora as described in the book.

It's Miss Muriel Lubbock by Henry Scott Tuke, and it's CC0 at Brighton Museums UK: https://collections.brightonmuseums.org.uk/records/5e97674bc7e31100174770ca

[Alex Cabal]

Looks good, I've added it to the DB

On 6/6/24 5:38 AM, David Grigg wrote:
> I've changed my mind about the cover image. This one much better fits
> the appearance and attitude of the character of Aurora as described in
> the book.
>
> It's Miss Muriel Lubbock by Henry Scott Tuke, and it's CC0 at Brighton
> Museums
> UK: https://collections.brightonmuseums.org.uk/records/5e97674bc7e31100174770ca
>

> Screenshot 2024-06-06 20-33-32.jpg
>
> On Sunday 5 May 2024 at 11:14:38 UTC+10 David at Standard Ebooks wrote:
>

> By 'slug' I assume you mean: *m-e-braddon_aurora-floyd* ?

>
> David / Melbourne, Australia
> On 5 May 2024 at 12:16 AM +1000, Weijia Cheng <weijia...@gmail.com>,
> wrote:
>> Sure, can you send me the slug so I can put it on the painting?
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:24:00 PM UTC-7 david...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Can I put dibs on this painting from our art collection, at
>> least for a while? I haven't yet read the book, but this
>> portrait is of the right period and so far as I can tell so
>> far is a good match for the eponymous main character.
>>

>> https://standardebooks.org/artworks/alfred-stevens/mary-ann-wife-of-leonard-collman <https://standardebooks.org/artworks/alfred-stevens/mary-ann-wife-of-leonard-collman>

>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 1 May 2024 at 09:56:48 UTC+10 weijia...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good, I can manage.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 9:17:42 AM UTC-7 robin wrote:
>>
>> Will review.
>>
>> > On 30 Apr 2024, at 17:41, Alex Cabal
>> <al...@standardebooks.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK! Weijia can you manage this with Robin reviewing?
>> >
>> > On 4/29/24 8:46 PM, David Grigg wrote:
>> >> I think I'll tackle this next.
>> >> I was amused, when searching for it on the forum,
>> to discover this thread from four years ago when I
>> gave a list of the books I was considering to do next:

>> https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/c/0qkgK5e847c/m/Kgwj5CR4AAAJ <https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/c/0qkgK5e847c/m/Kgwj5CR4AAAJ>

>> >> Aurora Floyd is the only one on that list which I
>> haven't yet produced!
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[David Grigg]

I should doubtless already know how to deal with situations like this, but like much else, if I once knew I've now forgotten! (Don't get old, folks!).

When we have a letter which is presented in pieces, as it were, with interleaved additions which aren't part of the letter, how do we deal with it? It seems wrong to blockquote it, but also crazy to individually put spans around each quoted part of the letter just in order to semanticate them. Here's an example from Aurora Floyd:

[David]

I remember this sort of situation coming up in a couple of my Trollope productions. I broke the asides out of the letter blockquotes - scroll down Ch. 56 of The Duke's Children, for example. I took as a precedent one (or two?) of Robin's Henryk Sienkiewicz productions (although I can't now recall what the scans looked like in this instance): see, e.g., Ch. 5 of With Fire and Sword (towards the end of the chapter). There might have been other, better/closer, examples.

Your asides are more "fragmentary", though ... still, I might be inclined to break them out of the blockquotes. But I often guess wrong in these situations! :)

FWIW! 

D. / Fife, UK

On Friday 14 June 2024 at 03:42:21 UTC+1 David G. wrote:

I should doubtless already know how to deal with situations like this, but like much else, if I once knew I've now forgotten! (Don't get old, folks!).

When we have a letter which is presented in pieces, as it were, with interleaved additions which aren't part of the letter, how do we deal with it? It seems wrong to blockquote it, but also crazy to individually put spans around each quoted part of the letter just in order to semanticate them. Here's an example from Aurora Floyd:

. . .

[David at Standard Ebooks]

Thanks, David. I certainly like the look of those examples. I’ll do the same unless told otherwise.

David / Melbourne, Australia 

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[David Grigg]

OK, I think this is now ready for review:

https://github.com/drgrigg/m-e-braddon_aurora-floyd

A very enjoyable read. I might do some more Braddon novels - she wrote heaps of them!

[Robin Whittleton]

Ok! Got friends visiting at the moment so it might be a few days.

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OK, I think this is now ready for review:

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[Robin Whittleton]

This is ready for you Alex.

-Robin

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[Alex Cabal]

Great work David, I've gone ahead and released it, thanks!

Make sure to carefully review the changes modernize-spelling makes. It
incorrectly removed some dashes that were extended words as dialect, and
also incorrectly changed "quire of paper" to "choir".

On 6/24/24 3:21 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> This is ready for you Alex.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 23 Jun 2024, at 16:10, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ok! Got friends visiting at the moment so it might be a few days.
>>
>>> On 23 Jun 2024, at 10:59, David Grigg <david...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I think this is now ready for review:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/drgrigg/m-e-braddon_aurora-floyd
>>>
>>> A very enjoyable read. I might do some more Braddon novels - she
>>> wrote heaps of them!
>>>
>>> On Friday 14 June 2024 at 18:44:03 UTC+10 David at Standard Ebooks wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, David. I certainly like the look of those examples. I’ll
>>> do the same unless told otherwise.
>>>
>>> David / Melbourne, Australia
>>> On 14 Jun 2024 at 6:01 PM +1000, David <djre...@gmail.com>, wrote:
>>>> I remember this sort of situation coming up in a couple of my
>>>> Trollope productions. I broke the asides out of the letter

>>>> blockquotes - scroll down Ch. 56 of /The Duke's Children/
>>>> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anthony-trollope/the-dukes-children/text/chapter-56>, for example. I took as a precedent one (or two?) of Robin's Henryk Sienkiewicz productions (although I can't now recall what the scans looked like in this instance): see, e.g., Ch. 5 of /With Fire and Sword/ <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/henryk-sienkiewicz/with-fire-and-sword/jeremiah-curtin/text/chapter-5> (towards the end of the chapter). There might have been other, better/closer, examples.

>>>>
>>>> Your asides are more "fragmentary", though ... still, I might be
>>>> inclined to break them out of the blockquotes. But I often guess
>>>> wrong in these situations! :)
>>>>
>>>> FWIW!
>>>>
>>>> D. / Fife, UK
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 14 June 2024 at 03:42:21 UTC+1 David G. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I should doubtless already know how to deal with situations
>>>> like this, but like much else, if I once knew I've now
>>>> forgotten! (Don't get old, folks!).
>>>>
>>>> When we have a letter which is presented in pieces, as it
>>>> were, with interleaved additions which aren't part of the
>>>> letter, how do we deal with it? It seems wrong to blockquote
>>>> it, but also crazy to individually put spans around each
>>>> quoted part of the letter just in order to semanticate them.

>>>> Here's an example from /Aurora Floyd/:

>>>> . . .
>>>>
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[Robin Whittleton]

Oops. Thanks for the heads up.

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[David at Standard Ebooks]

Thanks, Alex. Sorry for missing those, especially ‘choir’ for ‘quire’: but that seems a bizarre substitution for modernize spelling to make. When would that substitution be correct?

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[Alex Cabal]

Actually it's the other way around, it's correct most of the time but
"quire of paper" is the rare exception.

On 6/24/24 6:42 PM, David at Standard Ebooks wrote:
> Thanks, Alex. Sorry for missing those, especially ‘choir’ for ‘quire’:
> but that seems a bizarre substitution for modernize spelling to make.

> When would that substitution be *correct*?

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