The Lily of the Valley

[Vince]

The next Balzac, repository here. I finished proofing The Jealousies of a Country Town, so I need something to read while I’m looking for cover art and writing descriptions.

[Alex Cabal]

OK! Robin will manage this with Weijia reviewing.

On 6/23/25 11:40 AM, Vince wrote:
> The next Balzac, repository here <https://github.com/vr8hub/honore-de-
> balzac_the-lily-of-the-valley_james-waring>. I finished proofing /The
> Jealousies of a Country Town/, so I need something to read while I’m

> looking for cover art and writing descriptions.
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[Weijia Cheng]

Ok, noted.

[Vince]

I think this works well for the “lily of the valley” of the title, found here in the artwork database.

[Robin Whittleton]

Looks good, assigned.

-Robin

On 2 Jul 2025, at 05:56, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org> wrote:

I think this works well for the “lily of the valley” of the title, found here in the artwork database.

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[Vince]

Weijia, I believe this is ready for review.

The only note is that modernize wants to make two changes that should not be accepted—Outre-mer is correct, and jesuitical is lowercased per M-W. (Spelling unconditionally changes jesuit to Jesuit without regard to what follows.)

[Weijia Cheng]

Ok, I will try to get to it soon.

[Weijia Cheng]

Looks very good as always, Vince. I have just a few minor remarks.

[Weijia Cheng]

The review is mostly done but we have a question to kick upwards. This book has many instances of a French phrase followed by a parenthetical note with the translation (example here). Should these be converted into endnotes? We have done things like that in other productions before.

[Vince]

The other side of the discussion… I wouldn’t call a half-dozen “many,” but regardless, others of them are denoted as part of the text, e.g. “on the shoals le jard, as the coarse gravel deposited by the Loire is called…” I don’t think it makes sense to do a handful and leave the others. Also, this is the fifteenth or sixteenth production in the Comédie, and I haven’t done this on any of the previous ones.

[Alex Cabal]

Yes we have definitely done that before, and I would say yes, if it's a
parenthetical that is clearly not running prose then it should be pulled
out to an endnote instead.

On 7/20/25 4:50 PM, 'Weijia Cheng' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> The review is mostly done but we have a question to kick upwards. This
> book has many instances of a French phrase followed by a parenthetical

> note with the translation (example here <https://github.com/vr8hub/
> honore-de-balzac_the-lily-of-the-valley_james-waring/blob/master/src/
> epub/text/the-lily-of-the-valley.xhtml#L686>). Should these be converted

> into endnotes? We have done things like that in other productions before.
>
> On Saturday, July 19, 2025 at 7:48:41 AM UTC-4 Weijia Cheng wrote:
>
> Looks very good as always, Vince. I have just a few minor remarks.
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2025 at 8:33:46 PM UTC-4 Weijia Cheng wrote:
>
> Ok, I will try to get to it soon.
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2025 at 3:07:56 PM UTC-4 Vince wrote:
>

> Weijia, I believe this <https://github.com/vr8hub/honore-de-
> balzac_the-lily-of-the-valley_james-waring> is ready for review.

>
> The only note is that modernize wants to make two changes
> that should not be accepted—Outre-mer is correct, and
> jesuitical is lowercased per M-W. (Spelling unconditionally
> changes jesuit to Jesuit without regard to what follows.)
>

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[Alex Cabal]

Vince if you noticed this often in previous Balzac, would it be as
simple as a regex like

</i> \(

to find possible candidates for endnote conversion?

[Vince]

I haven’t noticed it because I wasn’t looking for it because I didn’t care, I just know I haven’t done it on any of the others.

That will catch some of them—it’s how I got an initial count earlier—but there are one or two in Lily where the parenthetical comes after other intervening text, so I had to abandon that and just look at every French phrase. There were only a couple of dozen in Lily, so it wasn’t too bad.

I’ll change Lily, and I still have to do descriptions for Jealousies so I’ll make a pass through it, and I’ll try to remember to look for it going forward. But this is all over the corpus; we have done this before, but we have definitely not standardized this to date. (And at this point it goes without saying I don’t think we should.)

[Vince]

Who should we assigning the endnotes role to?

[Alex Cabal]

The translator

On 7/21/25 12:39 PM, Vince wrote:
> Who should we assigning the endnotes role to?
>
>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 8:57 PM, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
>>
>> I haven’t noticed it because I wasn’t looking for it because I didn’t
>> care, I just know I haven’t done it on any of the others.
>>
>> That will catch some of them—it’s how I got an initial count earlier—

>> but there are one or two in /Lily/ where the parenthetical comes after

>> other intervening text, so I had to abandon that and just look at

>> every French phrase. There were only a couple of dozen in /Lily/, so

>> it wasn’t too bad.
>>

>> I’ll change /Lily/, and I still have to do descriptions for /
>> Jealousies/ so I’ll make a pass through it, and I’ll try to remember

>> to look for it going forward. But this is all over the corpus; we have
>> done this before, but we have definitely not standardized this to
>> date. (And at this point it goes without saying I don’t think we should.)
>

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[Vince]

All right, this is done.

[Weijia Cheng]

Ok, in that case it is ready for Alex.

[Alex Cabal]

OK, looks good, I've released it!

On 7/15/25 2:07 PM, Vince wrote:
> Weijia, I believe this <https://github.com/vr8hub/honore-de-balzac_the-

> lily-of-the-valley_james-waring> is ready for review.

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[Alex Cabal]

If you need help, I can go through some of the finished books to look
for parenthetical. Just send me a list of which ones I should look at.

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[Alex Cabal]

Using the regex I suggested I went through and updated:

- Beatrix

- Modeste Mignon

- Parisians in the Country

- Shorts from Scenes from a Private Life

- The Celibates