[New Project] Henry George - Progress and Poverty

[Stephen Gregoratto]

Last time I checked in I was doing Henry's autobiography by his son.
Life events and other things made me put it on pause for a while. But
now I'm back and I've decided to do Progress and Poverty first. I'm in
the early stages of proofreading and only have a couple of issues:

1. How do I format the halftitle[1]? Currently I have it like this:

<section id="halftitlepage" epub:type="halftitlepage">
<hgroup epub:type="fulltitle">
<h1 epub:type="title">Progress and Poverty</h1>
<p epub:type="bridgehead">An Inquiry Into the Cause of Industrial
Depressions and of Increase of Want with Increase of Wealth</p>
<h2 epub:type="subtitle">The Remedy</h2>
</hgroup>
</section>

which doesn't feel right.

2. Two chapters have subsections[2], and I currently deal with them by
using:

<section id="chapter-6-1-1" epub:type="division">
<header>
<b>I.⁠—From Greater Economy in Government.</b>
</header>
<p>...</p>

Which I only use because headers are centered and have a bit of padding.
Originally I used <h5> in place of <b>, but switched because they're not
really structurally important. I think I'll just use a CSS selector
anyway.

3. I haven't picked a cover image yet. I'm trying to find something
industrial and striking, preferably around San Francisco or New York.

Semi-related, but the portrait I wanted to use for the previous book has
now been explicitly licensed under CC0 by the US National Portrait
Gallery[3]. Might be worth checking out in the future.

4. Each "part" has a full page epigraph after it. I originally merged
them into their book-n.xhtml files, but split them out after to be more
true to the book. The unfortunate side effect is that each book chapter
is bumped by 1 in the table of contents. If this wasn't the case I could
remove the chapter numbers themselves and use <ol type="I"> instead.

That's it for now. GitHub link incoming.

[1] https://archive.org/details/cu31924013685460/page/n12/mode/1up
[2] https://archive.org/details/cu31924013685460/page/n293/mode/1up
[3] https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.67.53?destination=node/63231%3Fedan_q%3DHenry%2520George
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

First off, there are a lot of editions of this book. Which one are you
using as a base? There is at least a 1905 25th anniversary edition, and
transcriptions are listed on the book's Wiki page. We want the latest
edition possible.

Re. half title, I would call both of those subtitles. The first is not a
bridgehead for sure. The first subtitle would be h2 and the 2nd would be h3.

Re. divisions, divisions mean high-level divisions. In this case you can
use epub:type="subchapter" instead. I would use h# elements for those
headers, they seem like regular headers of a subchapter.

Re. cover art, I have two NY covers saved as options:

https://books.google.com/books?id=6I59AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA202#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jonas_Lie_-_Path_of_gold_(1914).jpg

https://books.google.com/books?id=6I59AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA203
http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/70065

I think a crop of the Brooklyn bridge would be nice.

I don't know what you mean when you say the ToC is bumped by one. Adding
an epigraph should not change the ToC in an incorrect way.

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-10 10:01, Alex Cabal wrote:
> First off, there are a lot of editions of this book. Which one are you using
> as a base? There is at least a 1905 25th anniversary edition, and
> transcriptions are listed on the book's Wiki page. We want the latest
> edition possible.

I'm using the one from the "Memorial Edition of the Writings of Henry
George" - 1898 that Gutenberg has transcribed. The newer editions add a
preface by his son, but I also noticed that it's missing an endnote.
If you want I can add the new preface as well.

> Re. half title, I would call both of those subtitles. The first is not a
> bridgehead for sure. The first subtitle would be h2 and the 2nd would be h3.

Done. Would this also mean I would have to shift all header elements by
one? (e.g. <h2>Book I</h2> -> <h3> etc.)

> Re. divisions, divisions mean high-level divisions. In this case you can use
> epub:type="subchapter" instead. I would use h# elements for those headers,
> they seem like regular headers of a subchapter.

Done.

> Re. cover art, I have two NY covers saved as options:
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=6I59AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA202#v=onepage&q&f=false
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jonas_Lie_-_Path_of_gold_(1914).jpg
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=6I59AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA203
> http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/70065
>
> I think a crop of the Brooklyn bridge would be nice.
>
> I don't know what you mean when you say the ToC is bumped by one. Adding an
> epigraph should not change the ToC in an incorrect way.

Currently the ToC is organised as:

...
<li>Book I</li>
<ol>
<li>Epigraph</i>
<li>Chapter I: ...</i>
...
</ol>

Do you want me to remove the Epigraph items?
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

> Done. Would this also mean I would have to shift all header elements by
> one? (e.g. <h2>Book I</h2> -> <h3> etc.)

No. The semantics of hgroup make its heading level equal to the first
<h#> tag. Any sibling <h#> tags are ignored for the purposes of
document-level semantics.

> Do you want me to remove the Epigraph items?

Do whatever print-toc does. It's usually right.

[Stephen Gregoratto]

I searched around a bit more and landed at the Brooklyn Bridge again,
although from another painter[1]. Originally I wanted to use Inness'
"The Lackawanna Valley," but I couldn't find it in any PD books. Bummer.

The GitHub link is here[2]. I've finished proofreading and only have the
final touches left to do. I found two cases of missing italics that I
submitted to PG.

No cover commit for now as I'm waiting on a friend to do some
photoshopping. When I told him about the cover restrictions he came back
with the attached image - the landscape distorted so to make the
rightmost suspension tower appear further back in the distance. I think
this looks better than a simple crop, what do you think?

[1] https://www.artic.edu/artworks/16545/brooklyn-bridge
[2] https://github.com/The-King-of-Toasters/henry-george_progress-and-poverty/
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

We don't want to photoshop image used for covers. (With the exception of
removing cracks, physical warping, dust, scanning artifacts, etc.) You
should use the original painting as-is. If it's not suitable then you
can find an alternate.

I don't think this will be a very good candidate because the detail at
the bottom will be obscured by the title box. The cover will appear to
mostly be sky.

[Stephen Gregoratto]

Pretty much done, all that's left is to crop the art and finish
content.opf and imprint. I couldn't find any other PD landscapes that
fitted my criteria, so I'll use the Jonas Lie you provided.

I did notice that when viewing it on my Kobo, the dedication is not
centered like it is on my desktop readers/web browsers (screenshot
attached).
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

Are you using the .kepub file, or what other file?

Using `se extract-ebook` on the file you're using, then opening that in
the browser and inspecting the elements, will give you a hint as to
what's going on. If it still looks fine in the browser, then it's a Kobo
rendering issue.

What is the link to your repo?

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-22 11:39, Alex Cabal wrote:
> Are you using the .kepub file, or what other file?

I'm using the kepub.

> Using `se extract-ebook` on the file you're using, then opening that in the
> browser and inspecting the elements, will give you a hint as to what's going
> on. If it still looks fine in the browser, then it's a Kobo rendering issue.

Thanks for the hint, I'll have a look.

> What is the link to your repo?

https://github.com/The-King-of-Toasters/henry-george_progress-and-poverty/

For reference, here's what it looks like in the book:

https://archive.org/details/writingsofhenryg01geor/page/n16/mode/1up

> On 11/22/20 2:31 AM, 'Stephen Gregoratto' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> > Pretty much done, all that's left is to crop the art and finish
> > content.opf and imprint. I couldn't find any other PD landscapes that
> > fitted my criteria, so I'll use the Jonas Lie you provided.
> >
> > I did notice that when viewing it on my Kobo, the dedication is not
> > centered like it is on my desktop readers/web browsers (screenshot
> > attached).
> >
>

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Stephen Gregoratto

[Stephen Gregoratto]

So I took a look, and there's no difference when opening on my desktop
browsers/epub readers (foliate). Weird.
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-22 19:31, Stephen Gregoratto wrote:
> I couldn't find any other PD landscapes that fitted my criteria, so
> I'll use the Jonas Lie you provided.

So I looked at other editions of the book and found one that used "New
York" by George Bellows[1]. I had a look at archive.org and sure enough, I
found a photo of it dated 1915[2]. This looks like the perfect cover. It
has "progress" in the form of the development of NY buildings, whilst the
"poverty" is represented in the form of the overflowing numbers of cars,
trams and even a horse-drawn cart.

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/George_Bellows_-_New_York.jpg
[2] https://archive.org/details/c100_book_2014_00226/page/n15/mode/1up
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

Looking at your source, the dedication is not a poem. You can remove
poem semantics, and simply use a single <p> tag with <br/> for line
breaks. Then, the signature goes in <footer>. You can style it with
something like [epub|type~="dedication"] p{ text-align: center;
font-variant: small-caps; }

[Alex Cabal]

OK, that works! Good find!

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-22 21:40, Alex Cabal wrote:
> Looking at your source, the dedication is not a poem. You can remove poem
> semantics, and simply use a single <p> tag with <br/> for line breaks. Then,
> the signature goes in <footer>. You can style it with something like
> [epub|type~="dedication"] p{ text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps; }

So what I ended up doing was copying across most of the CSS for
epigraphs and changing the necessary bits. Using the dedication css in
the manual doesn't center the text on my Kobo. I also realised that my
changing overriding the justification globally also overrides the
epigrah CSS, which is why it always looked off no matter my changes.
This doesn't effect the epigraphs, probably because they're all left
aligned.

Anyway, I'm finished now. Here's the link to the repo again, feel free
to create issues if needed:

https://github.com/The-King-of-Toasters/henry-george_progress-and-poverty
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-24 10:42, Stephen Gregoratto wrote:
> Anyway, I'm finished now. Here's the link to the repo again, feel free
> to create issues if needed:
>
> https://github.com/The-King-of-Toasters/henry-george_progress-and-poverty

I just remembered a snag with the tools I'm facing. Recomposing into
html doesn't work, as I get a vague error:

Error Section without id attribute.

I've checked all the <section>s and they all have id attrs. Does it
mean some other structural section?
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

In chapter-2-2 you close the section too early, right after the header.
Can you fix that?

[Alex Cabal]

Same problem in chapter-9-2

[Stephen Gregoratto]

On 2020-11-24 10:15, Alex Cabal wrote:
> In chapter-2-2 you close the section too early, right after the header. Can
> you fix that?

Done!
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Stephen Gregoratto]

I also forgot to address an internal reference in the endnotes. From the
book:

> The effect of the Malthusian doctrine upon the definitions of capital
> may, I think, be seen by comparing (see pp. 32, 33, 34)...

I see a couple of ways of dealing with this

1. Replace with a hyperlink to Chapter 1-2.
2. Replace with a hyperlink to the specific part in Chapter 1-2.
3. Drop it completely.

What do you think?
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Stephen Gregoratto]

I just pushed a change which uses #2, as per section 5.1.2.3 in the
manual. That should fix it.
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Stephen Gregoratto

[Alex Cabal]

OK, I've had some time to review it. Sorry for the delay. This is a very
good production, this was a fairly complex book. You were missing nested
<section>s for recomposability, which I added. I also made some minor
semantics tweaks. Generally, we don't include <time> in the colophon or
long description. (But, you can add them to the text body, like you
did.) Great work all around, I've gone ahead and released this!