[Next Project] Saïd the Fisherman, by Marmaduke Pickthall

[Jason Livermore]

Looking at the advance wanted list, I propose to work on this one. The latest PD edition I see is published in 1925.

Saïd the Fisherman, by Marmaduke Pickthall
PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/77078
IA: https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm

[Alex Cabal]

OK! Please send a link to your repo once you start.

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[Jason Livermore]

repo: https://github.com/javamanatee/marmaduke-pickthall_said-the-fisherman

[Alex Cabal]

OK, Weijia will manage with Emma reviewing.

On 3/27/26 8:29 AM, Jason Livermore wrote:
> repo: https://github.com/javamanatee/marmaduke-pickthall_said-the-fisherman
>
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2026 at 8:35:21 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Please send a link to your repo once you start.
>
> On 3/26/26 7:50 PM, Jason Livermore wrote:
> > Looking at the advance wanted list, I propose to work on this
> one. The
> > latest PD edition I see is published in 1925.
> >
> > Saïd the Fisherman, by Marmaduke Pickthall

> > PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/77078 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/77078>
> > IA: https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm <https://
> archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm>

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[Jason Livermore]

Weijia,

Looking at the book structure, there is a notes section at the end of Part 1.

https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/192/mode/2up

I'm thinking the glossary and endnotes will go into backmatter sections like we usually do.  There is a Time Table with some entries.  There is also a shorter Time Table at the end of Part 2. 

https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/312/mode/2up

Would it make sense to combine these into one table in an appendix section at the end?  The table in Part 1 has an extra column for "Year of the Hejra" that is lacking in the latter table, but even this has some blank spaces in that column.

[Weijia Cheng]

I think that would make sense as an editorial commit.

[Jason Livermore]

Should the columns with dates have the tabular-nums styling?  It's kind of a mix of numbers and text. Some entries are ranges of years.

https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/191/mode/1up

[Weijia Cheng]

I am not sure that tabular-nums would make sense in that case. The whole point of tabular-nums is to use a monospace font and get numbers to line up, but I don't think that is particularly important when you are looking at years and date ranges.

[Alex Cabal]

tabular nums don't result in a different monospace font being used,
rather they're an option of the current font to render numbers in a
particular way. (In the same way that so-called lowercase numbers are an
option of a font.)

If a font doesn't support that option then the browser *might* try to
fake it with a monospace font, but it might also just do nothing.

As Weijia mentioned they're mostly used for tables in which *figures*
are organized and/or summed, but dates aren't really figures in that sense.

On 3/31/26 8:01 PM, 'Weijia Cheng' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> I am not sure that tabular-nums would make sense in that case. The whole
> point of tabular-nums is to use a monospace font and get numbers to line
> up, but I don't think that is particularly important when you are
> looking at years and date ranges.
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2026 at 8:58:19 PM UTC-4 jason.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Should the columns with dates have the tabular-nums styling?  It's
> kind of a mix of numbers and text. Some entries are ranges of years.
> https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/191/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/191/mode/1up>
>
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2026 at 3:50:35 PM UTC-5 weij...@bu.edu wrote:
>
> I think that would make sense as an editorial commit.
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2026 at 11:42:36 AM UTC-4
> jason.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Weijia,
>
> Looking at the book structure, there is a notes section at
> the end of Part 1.
> https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/192/

> mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/
> page/192/mode/2up>

>
> I'm thinking the glossary and endnotes will go into
> backmatter sections like we usually do.  There is a Time
> Table with some entries.  There is also a shorter Time Table
> at the end of Part 2.
> https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/page/312/

> mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/saidfisherman0000marm/
> page/312/mode/2up>

>
> Would it make sense to combine these into one table in an
> appendix section at the end?  The table in Part 1 has an
> extra column for "Year of the Hejra" that is lacking in the
> latter table, but even this has some blank spaces in that
> column.
>
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2026 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, Weijia will manage with Emma reviewing.
>
> On 3/27/26 8:29 AM, Jason Livermore wrote:
> > repo: https://github.com/javamanatee/marmaduke-

> pickthall_said-the-fisherman <https://github.com/
> javamanatee/marmaduke-pickthall_said-the-fisherman>

> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 26, 2026 at 8:35:21 PM UTC-5 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK! Please send a link to your repo once you start.
> >
> > On 3/26/26 7:50 PM, Jason Livermore wrote:
> > > Looking at the advance wanted list, I propose to
> work on this
> > one. The
> > > latest PD edition I see is published in 1925.
> > >
> > > Saïd the Fisherman, by Marmaduke Pickthall
> > > PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/77078

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> saidfisherman0000marm <https://archive.org/details/
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