[First Project] Anne of the Island by L.M. Montgomery
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pgb...@gmail.com
Aug 31, 2020, 5:15:36 PM8/31/20
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Hi there. I've been lurking in the group for a while now, and I am so grateful for your work in producing such beautifully edited ebooks.
If you don't mind welcoming a beginner, I would like to propose Anne of the Island as a first project if you think it is worth adding to the SE collection at this time.
I have no background in programming and only a smattering of html, but I have successfully (I think) installed all the SE tools. I also spent the last few weeks working on Anne of the Island as a learning project.
With the exception of some of the regex commands in the online walkthrough for producing SE ebooks, only one of which worked for me, I was able to follow the guidelines pretty well. I also heavily consulted the existing Anne of Green Gables source code as well as the page scans when I had questions about formatting.
I am happy to see the recent additions of Frederick Douglass' Narrative and James Weldon Johnson's Autobiography, as well as the forthcoming Our Nig by Harriet Wilson. If your immediate priority is a more diverse set of authors, I would happily propose working on W.E.B. Du Bois' The Quest of the Silver Fleece. I recently started preliminary editing of this work just for additional practice, and it seems fairly straightforward.
But if Anne of the Island works right now, here are the pertinent details:
- Publication year - 1915
- Word count - about 77,000 words
- PG source - https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51/51-h/51-h.htm
- Page scans - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000241810
- Potential cover art - https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/435991
- Cover art PD source - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000413271
There were a few things in the text I wasn't sure how to handle:
- An epitaph was quoted in full in chapter 4. I used <epub:type="z3998:dedication">, but I don't know if this is correct.
- In chapter 17, there is a letter quoted in full that includes a short essay with title and a concluding "The End". I used the <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter" for the quoted letter, but I didn't know what to do with the short essay within the letter.
- Chapter 23 had a single, simple endnote referring to a collection of short stories related to the Anne novels. I used the endnotes page in the recently published SE edition of Erewhon as a guide.
One final issue. I created an account on GitHub, but I am not sure how to create a repository. I've looked at the GitHub documents page and tried to follow its instructions. When I upload files, my repository looks nothing like other SE repositories. I feel a little embarrassed asking for guidance on something that is probably very simple, but any guidance would be appreciated if you approve this project.
Best,
Philip
Alex Cabal
Aug 31, 2020, 6:08:21 PM8/31/20
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Sure, that one would be a good start.
The big problem here will be converting PG's ALL CAPS to italics. Since
they can't emphasize "I" in that way, you will have to eyeball each page
of the page scans to check for italicized "I". You'll also have to look
for other missing formatting, for example in any letters that might be
in the text.
Looks like there are a few lines of verse in here. You can find how to
format them in the manual.
The "dedication" semantic is reserved for book sections that are
dedications. Additionally, we don't want to use the z3998 vocabulary
when the same semantic exists in the regular epub vocabulary, as it does
in this case.
For an essay within a letter, you can nest blockquotes for that. Lint
may complain but that's fine.
Tutorials for connecting to Github are plentiful online. I'm sure you
can find one that works.
Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
and typography sections:
https://standardebooks.org/manual
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-patterns
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography
The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:
https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-step
Please email often if you have any questions at all. Our standards are
well-established so there is probably already a standard for formatting
whatever problem you've encountered.
When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
that I can mark you as having started.
Have fun! :)
On 8/31/20 4:15 PM, pgb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi there. I've been lurking in the group for a while now, and I am so
> grateful for your work in producing such beautifully edited ebooks.
>
> If you don't mind welcoming a beginner, I would like to propose /Anne of
> the Island/ as a first project if you think it is worth adding to the SE
> forthcoming /Our Nig/ by Harriet Wilson. If your immediate priority is a
> details:
>
> * Publication year - 1915
> * Word count - about 77,000 words
> * PG source - https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51/51-h/51-h.htm
> * Page scans - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000241810
> * Potential cover art
> - https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/435991
> * Cover art PD source - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000413271
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The big problem here will be converting PG's ALL CAPS to italics. Since
they can't emphasize "I" in that way, you will have to eyeball each page
of the page scans to check for italicized "I". You'll also have to look
for other missing formatting, for example in any letters that might be
in the text.
Looks like there are a few lines of verse in here. You can find how to
format them in the manual.
The "dedication" semantic is reserved for book sections that are
dedications. Additionally, we don't want to use the z3998 vocabulary
when the same semantic exists in the regular epub vocabulary, as it does
in this case.
For an essay within a letter, you can nest blockquotes for that. Lint
may complain but that's fine.
Tutorials for connecting to Github are plentiful online. I'm sure you
can find one that works.
Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
and typography sections:
https://standardebooks.org/manual
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-patterns
https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography
The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:
https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-step
Please email often if you have any questions at all. Our standards are
well-established so there is probably already a standard for formatting
whatever problem you've encountered.
When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
that I can mark you as having started.
Have fun! :)
On 8/31/20 4:15 PM, pgb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi there. I've been lurking in the group for a while now, and I am so
> grateful for your work in producing such beautifully edited ebooks.
>
> the Island/ as a first project if you think it is worth adding to the SE
> collection at this time.
>
> I have no background in programming and only a smattering of html, but I
> have successfully (I think) installed all the SE tools. I also spent the
> last few weeks working on /Anne of the Island/ as a learning project.
>
> I have no background in programming and only a smattering of html, but I
> have successfully (I think) installed all the SE tools. I also spent the
>
> With the exception of some of the regex commands in the online
> walkthrough for producing SE ebooks, only one of which worked for me, I
> was able to follow the guidelines pretty well. I also heavily consulted
> the existing /Anne of Green Gables/ source code as well as the page
> With the exception of some of the regex commands in the online
> walkthrough for producing SE ebooks, only one of which worked for me, I
> was able to follow the guidelines pretty well. I also heavily consulted
> scans when I had questions about formatting.
>
> I am happy to see the recent additions of Frederick Douglass'
> /Narrative/ and James Weldon Johnson's /Autobiography/, as well as the
>
> I am happy to see the recent additions of Frederick Douglass'
> forthcoming /Our Nig/ by Harriet Wilson. If your immediate priority is a
> more diverse set of authors, I would happily propose working on W.E.B.
> Du Bois' /The Quest of the Silver Fleece/. I recently started
> preliminary editing of this work just for additional practice, and it
> seems fairly straightforward.
>
> But if /Anne of the Island/ works right now, here are the pertinent
> seems fairly straightforward.
>
> details:
>
> * Publication year - 1915
> * Word count - about 77,000 words
> * PG source - https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51/51-h/51-h.htm
> * Page scans - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000241810
> * Potential cover art
> - https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/435991
> * Cover art PD source - https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000413271
>
> There were a few things in the text I wasn't sure how to handle:
>
> * An epitaph was quoted in full in chapter 4. I used
> There were a few things in the text I wasn't sure how to handle:
>
> <epub:type="z3998:dedication">, but I don't know if this is correct.
> * In chapter 17, there is a letter quoted in full that includes a
> short essay with title and a concluding "The End". I used
> the <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter" for the quoted letter, but
> I didn't know what to do with the short essay within the letter.
> * Chapter 23 had a single, simple endnote referring to a collection of
> the <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter" for the quoted letter, but
> I didn't know what to do with the short essay within the letter.
> short stories related to the Anne novels. I used the endnotes page
> in the recently published SE edition of /Erewhon/ as a guide.
>
> One final issue. I created an account on GitHub, but I am not sure how
> to create a repository. I've looked at the GitHub documents page and
> tried to follow its instructions. When I upload files, my repository
> looks nothing like other SE repositories. I feel a little embarrassed
> asking for guidance on something that is probably very simple, but any
> guidance would be appreciated if you approve this project.
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
>
> --
> One final issue. I created an account on GitHub, but I am not sure how
> to create a repository. I've looked at the GitHub documents page and
> tried to follow its instructions. When I upload files, my repository
> looks nothing like other SE repositories. I feel a little embarrassed
> asking for guidance on something that is probably very simple, but any
> guidance would be appreciated if you approve this project.
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
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Philip Bader
Aug 31, 2020, 7:22:40 PM8/31/20
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Thanks, Alex.
Here is the repository: https://github.com/baderpg/l-m-montgomery_anne-of-the-island
I went through each chapter manually to convert ALL CAPS to either <em> or in one case, <strong>. I also finished up the checklist up to the point of picking a cover image.
After a lengthy search, I found this image at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. It's public domain, and I have a Hathi link to a book in which it was published prior to 1924.
If this image is suitable, I will continue with the step-by-step guide.
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Alex Cabal
Aug 31, 2020, 8:05:40 PM8/31/20
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Can you send a link to the source and PD proof?
On 8/31/20 6:22 PM, Philip Bader wrote:
> Thanks, Alex.
>
> Here is the
> repository: https://github.com/baderpg/l-m-montgomery_anne-of-the-island
>
> I went through each chapter manually to convert ALL CAPS to either <em>
> or in one case, <strong>. I also finished up the checklist up to the
> point of picking a cover image.
>
> After a lengthy search, I found this image at the Metropolitan Museum of
> Art. It's public domain, and I have a Hathi link to a book in which it
> was published prior to 1924.
>
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On 8/31/20 6:22 PM, Philip Bader wrote:
> Thanks, Alex.
>
> Here is the
> repository: https://github.com/baderpg/l-m-montgomery_anne-of-the-island
>
> I went through each chapter manually to convert ALL CAPS to either <em>
> or in one case, <strong>. I also finished up the checklist up to the
> point of picking a cover image.
>
> After a lengthy search, I found this image at the Metropolitan Museum of
> Art. It's public domain, and I have a Hathi link to a book in which it
> was published prior to 1924.
>
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OK. The page scan is not the same painting; note that the tree is
missing from the left background, and the bush is missing from the right
background.
But, it is a CC0 item from the Met collection, so we can still use it.
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David Grigg
Sep 1, 2020, 1:48:21 AM9/1/20
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Is this a slightly nicer version of the same subject?
Philip Bader
Sep 1, 2020, 2:08:55 AM9/1/20
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I think I prefer this image to the one I found. Thanks for sharing it. I haven't yet done anything with the other image, so I would be happy to use it if Alex approves.
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David Grigg
Sep 1, 2020, 2:38:41 AM9/1/20
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OK. PD proof is here, Alex: https://archive.org/details/lartetlesartiste00dayouoft/page/366/ and a high-res image is here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Camille_Corot%2C_Lesendes_Mädchen%2C_um_1850.jpg
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Sep 1, 2020, 12:58:11 PM9/1/20
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Sure, that works!
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> OK. PD proof is here,
> Alex: https://archive.org/details/lartetlesartiste00dayouoft/page/366/ and
> a high-res image is
> here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Camille_Corot%2C_Lesendes_Mädchen%2C_um_1850.jpg
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On 9/1/20 1:39 AM, David Grigg wrote:
> OK. PD proof is here,
> Alex: https://archive.org/details/lartetlesartiste00dayouoft/page/366/ and
> a high-res image is
> here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Camille_Corot%2C_Lesendes_Mädchen%2C_um_1850.jpg
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