[First Project] The Oakdale Affair by Edgar Rice Burroughs

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Dave Roberts

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I'd like to try a first project. From the list of suggested first projects (here: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/wanted-ebooks), it seems like The Oakdale Affair by Edgar Rice Burroughs would be a good one to try.

I would be looking to use the text from Project Gutenberg, here:
cross-checked against the scan at archive.org, here:

I did notice that the scan is relatively new (the Introduction is dated 2002), which suggests that it was also made from a previous scan. There doesn't seem to be another scan available on archive.org, so if someone has suggestions for where I might find a better (earlier) scan, that would be appreciated.

One question about the process after reading the Step by Step instructions on the web site... do I create the Git repo under my own personal account and transfer it to Standard Ebooks later or does Standard Ebooks create a repo for me under the Standard Ebooks account? In looking at the git repos for various books already finished in the Standard Ebooks catalog and they all (so far as I have checked) have repos under the Standard Ebooks account.

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Alex Cabal

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Can you un-borrow that page scan so I can check the copyright date?

You would create the repo under your personal account. Once the ebook is
finished we clone it into our organization account and yours can be deleted.
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Dave Roberts

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Done. But there is no copyright on the new edition.

Dave Roberts

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There doesn’t seem to be anything on Google Books, either. It’s mentioned in a couple of books analyzing ERB’s total works, but doesn’t seem to have the text itself.
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Alex Cabal

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OK, you can go ahead and work on this.

As you noted there's no copyright date on the page scans so we can't
really use them. We have to be sure that the scans are in the public
domain era and don't contain changes that happened after.

But that's OK, you can just work on the book based on PG's transcription
without referring to scans.

This one is kind of weird in that it only has one chapter... you can put
the editor's note into an endnote attached to the chapter number.

I also see one instance of verse, see the manual for copy and paste
CSS/HTML.

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On 1/3/26 1:38 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> Done. But there is no copyright on the new edition.
>
> On Saturday, January 3, 2026 at 1:37:24 PM UTC-6 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Can you un-borrow that page scan so I can check the copyright date?
>
> You would create the repo under your personal account. Once the
> ebook is
> finished we clone it into our organization account and yours can be
> deleted.
>
> On 1/3/26 1:33 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> > I'd like to try a first project. From the list of suggested first
> > projects (here: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/wanted-
> ebooks <https://standardebooks.org/contribute/wanted-ebooks>), it
> > seems like The Oakdale Affair by Edgar Rice Burroughs would be a
> good
> > one to try.
> >
> > I would be looking to use the text from Project Gutenberg, here:
> > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/363 <https://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/363>
> > cross-checked against the scan at archive.org <http://
> archive.org>, here:
> > https://archive.org/details/oakdaleaffair0000edga/page/10/
> mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/oakdaleaffair0000edga/page/10/
> mode/2up>
> >
> > I did notice that the scan is relatively new (the Introduction is
> dated
> > 2002), which suggests that it was also made from a previous scan.
> There
> > doesn't seem to be another scan available on archive.org <http://
> archive.org>, so if someone
> > has suggestions for where I might find a better (earlier) scan, that
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > One question about the process after reading the Step by Step
> > instructions on the web site... do I create the Git repo under my
> own
> > personal account and transfer it to Standard Ebooks later or does
> > Standard Ebooks create a repo for me under the Standard Ebooks
> account?
> > In looking at the git repos for various books already finished in
> the
> > Standard Ebooks catalog and they all (so far as I have checked) have
> > repos under the Standard Ebooks account.
> >
> > -- Dave Roberts
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Dave Roberts

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Sounds good. Per the question in the original email from me, do I create the Git repo in my own Github account or does Standard Ebooks create one for me under your account? If under my account, do I transfer it to Standard Ebooks when done?

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Alex Cabal

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You would create the repo under your personal account. Once the ebook is
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Dave Roberts

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Perfect, thanks.
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Robin Whittleton

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Might be worth pointing out that Wikisource also don’t have a scan, but have it split into ten chapters. The boundaries there seem realistic. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Oakdale_Affair.

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Dave Roberts

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I just found this scan:

It appears to be a 1977 republishing of the original 1918 copyright. It does not seem to claim a new, 1977, copyright.

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Dave Roberts

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Hi Robin,

Realistic in what sense? Are you suggesting breaking the document into multiple files according to those divisions used by Wikisource? Is that just so I’m not working with one really large file because it’s all one chapter (odd that Burroughs did that, BTW)?

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Alex Cabal

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OK, that's a good find, exactly what we need.

You can use those scans. I see the scans are divided into more chapters
like Robin noted, so you can divide our edition into multiple chapters
too. Then the editor's note is no longer necessary.

Please send a link to your repo once you start.

On 1/3/26 2:04 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> I just found this scan:
> https://annas-archive.li/slow_download/
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Dave Roberts

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Ah, you’re right about the multiple chapters. Overwhelmed by my joy in having found what seemed like a good scan, I hadn’t noticed that. OK, I’ll follow those divisions.

Dave Roberts

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I’m at the Typogrify section of the Step-by-Step guide. Specifically, I’m looking through the checklist in that document and in Style Manual, section 8. Specifically, I have questions about section 8.1.4. When I split the text, following the lead of the page scans, I inserted <h2>Chapter …</h2> headings and ran the “se split-file…” command. All that worked well. But now section 8.1.4 is suggesting to me that I really want to eliminate “Chapter” and use roman numerals for all of the chapter headings. Is that what I want? Or should I follow the direction of the scan and have “Chapter One,” “Chapter Two,” etc? I noticed that after the automatic processing up through this point, there is a <title> tag in the head with roman numerals in it. Should the text in the <title> tag in the head and the <h2> tag in the body match?

Vince

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First, as Alex requested, please send a link to your repo, then Alex can assign a manager to the project that will answer any questions you have.

SEMoS isn’t suggesting—it’s the law. :) If SEMoS says do it, that’s what we do, regardless of what is in the scans. IOW, do what 8.1.4 says. You’ll find the same thing, e.g., when it comes to italics—SEMoS’ rules for italics apply regardless of what is in the scans.

Yes, the title should match, but se build-title will take care of that when you get to that step.

Dave Roberts

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Hi Vince,

My apologies. I missed the request for the repo link. Here: https://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair

I’m OK with “it’s the law.” Makes it clear and unambiguous. Thanks.

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Vince

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No worries.

I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek about “the law”—keep in mind the fourth paragraph at the top of SEMoS (“Having said that…”). But starting off, it’s best to treat it as the law. :) Your assigned manager can help with any questions regarding possible exceptions.

Also be sure to follow the Step by Step guide as closely as possible. This is for your benefit to learn the tools as well as your assigned reviewer, to easily see that everything was done correctly.

Alex Cabal

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OK, Lukas will manage with Weijia reviewing.a

On 1/4/26 7:43 AM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> Hi Vince,
>
> My apologies. I missed the request for the repo link. Here: https://
> github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair <https://
> github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair>
>
> I’m OK with “it’s the law.” Makes it clear and unambiguous. Thanks.
>
> — Dave
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2026, at 10:25 PM, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
>
> First, as Alex requested, please send a link to your repo, then Alex can
> assign a manager to the project that will answer any questions you have.
>
> SEMoS isn’t suggesting—it’s the law. :) If SEMoS says do it, that’s what
> we do, regardless of what is in the scans. IOW, do what 8.1.4 says.
> You’ll find the same thing, e.g., when it comes to italics—SEMoS’ rules
> for italics apply regardless of what is in the scans.
>
> Yes, the title should match, butse build-titlewill take care of that
> when you get to that step.
>
>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:08 AM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’m at the Typogrify section of the Step-by-Step guide. Specifically,
>> I’m looking through the checklist in that document and in Style
>> Manual, section 8. Specifically, I have questions about section 8.1.4.
>> When I split the text, following the lead of the page scans, I
>> inserted <h2>Chapter …</h2> headings and ran the “se split-file…”
>> command. All that worked well. But now section 8.1.4 is suggesting to
>> me that I really want to eliminate “Chapter” and use roman numerals
>> for all of the chapter headings. Is that what I want? Or should I
>> follow the direction of the scan and have “Chapter One,” “Chapter
>> Two,” etc? I noticed that after the automatic processing up through
>> this point, there is a <title> tag in the head with roman numerals in
>> it. Should the text in the <title> tag in the head and the <h2> tag in
>> the body match?
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2026, at 3:08 PM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:drob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, you’re right about the multiple chapters. Overwhelmed by my joy in
>> having found what seemed like a good scan, I hadn’t noticed that. OK,
>> I’ll follow those divisions.
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2026, at 2:07 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK, that's a good find, exactly what we need.
>>
>> You can use those scans. I see the scans are divided into more
>> chapters like Robin noted, so you can divide our edition into multiple
>> chapters too. Then the editor's note is no longer necessary.
>>
>> Please send a link to your repo once you start.
>
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Dave Roberts

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I have this construction occurring in the text:

“Thank you, but;⁠—er⁠—I’m on the wagon, you know,” declined the youth.

I’ve never seen a semicolon-followed-by-em-dash. I’m wondering if the semicolon needs to be removed. The original scans show the semicolon present, so the scan was accurate. I’m a better-than-average punctuation-Nazi, but I’m wondering what is correct to do in this instance.

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Lukas Bystricky

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I agree it looks a bit strange, but it's fine to leave it as is. Generally it's too big a rabbit hole to mess with punctuation beyond what's in the style guide and more often than not typogrify handles this automatically.

Dave Roberts

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Dave Roberts

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Lukas,

I need some direction on how to handle emphasis versus what is shown in the original scans.

I have multiple cases of all-caps words in the document. Some easily resolve to “<em>” tags. Others don’t. Easy case:

But later in the day when word came from a nearby town that Reginald had been seen in a strange touring car with two unknown men and a girl, the gossips commenced to wag their heads. It was mentioned, casually of course, that this town was a few stations along the very road upon which Abigail had departed the previous afternoon for that destination which she had not reached. It was likewise remarked that Reginald, the two strange men and the GIRL had been first noticed after the time of arrival of the Oakdale train!


“GIRL” is italicized in the scan and IMO should be converted to “<em>.” That said, it’s not in dialog; it’s in descriptive text (it’s being emphasized by the narrator, not one of the characters).

The other case that occurs is:

The Oskaloosa Kid cast a wide eyed glance of terror at Bridge. His lips moved in an attempt to speak; but fear rendered him inarticulate. Slowly, ponderously the THING ascended the dark stairs from the gloom ridden cellar of the deserted ruin. Even Bridge paled a trifle. The man upon the floor appeared to have met an unnatural death⁠—the frightful expression frozen upon the dead face might even indicate something verging upon the supernatural. The sound of the THING climbing out of the cellar was indeed uncanny⁠—so uncanny that Bridge discovered himself looking about for some means of escape. His eyes fell upon the stairway leading to the second floor.


The “THING” occurs many times, in multiple paragraphs. Here, you see it twice in the same paragraph. It’s basically a character name of sorts (perhaps with “the THING” as opposed to just “THING”). The original scans show it rendered in all-caps, so it’s not an artifact of upstream conversion; it was in the original.

Suggestions for this? Things I’ve thought about:
  • <em>
  • <strong>
  • Capitalize it: Thing
  • Capitalize it with article: The Thing

I don’t think it’s proper to use “<em>.” It’s more than just emphasis. Or even strong emphasis, perhaps.

What do you think?

— Dave


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Lukas Bystricky

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I think you're right that it looks more like a character name. In that case I would capitalize it everywhere. Make sure to do this in an [Editorial] commit. 

Dave Roberts

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OK. I’ll do “the Thing” as opposed to “The Thing.” I’ll do all the regular emphasis stuff as part of the “Manually added semantics” commit and then do another commit for “the Thing” with an “[Editorial]” marker. Does that sound right?

Lukas Bystricky

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Yes, that sounds good. 

Dave Roberts

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Was working through this just now and discovered that there are some references to the THING that are done as IT, as in “Can you hear IT?” and “IT’s coming!”

They are shown in the scan all-caps. I’m going to convert them to <em> tags and not capitalize them at all (i.e., not “It”).

Does that seem like a good choice?

— Dave

Dave Roberts

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Also ran into This sentence:

If Jeb had but known it his young hopeless was already in the loft of the hay barn deep in a small, red-covered book entitled: “HOW TO BE A DETECTIVE.”


My thought is to convert the book title to title case wrapped in <i> tags and without quotes around it. Thus:

If Jeb had but known it his young hopeless was already in the loft of the hay barn deep in a small, red-covered book entitled: <i>How to Be a Detective</i>.

Does that seem correct?

— Dave

Lukas Bystricky

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Was working through this just now and discovered that there are some references to the THING that are done as IT, as in “Can you hear IT?” and “IT’s coming!”

They are shown in the scan all-caps. I’m going to convert them to <em> tags and not capitalize them at all (i.e., not “It”).

Does that seem like a good choice?

If "IT" only appears a couple times that's fine, but if it's repeated a bunch then I think you can treat it like you did "THING".

My thought is to convert the book title to title case wrapped in <i> tags and without quotes around it. Thus:

If Jeb had but known it his young hopeless was already in the loft of the hay barn deep in a small, red-covered book entitled: <i>How to Be a Detective</i>.

Does that seem correct?

That looks good, but you'll need the correct semantics on the <i> tag (i.e. (<i epub:type="se:name.publication.book">...). 

Dave Roberts

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Dave Roberts

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Changes made and pushed to the repo. Take a look and let me know if you see any problems. I went with “IT” -> “<em>it</em>” as there were only three references. I changed “THING” to “Thing” and confined the change to a separate editorial commit.

Dave Roberts

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FYI, there may be a bug in “se modernize-spelling.” I ran it and it changed “close-mouthed” to “closemouthed.” The Oxford English Dictionary that came with MacOS says “close-mouthed” is still correct. Not sure what algorithm the script uses or or how it checks validity.

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Our dictionary is Merriam-Webster:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/closemouthed

On 1/9/26 11:48 AM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> FYI, there may be a bug in “se modernize-spelling.” I ran it and it
> changed “close-mouthed” to “closemouthed.” The Oxford English Dictionary
> that came with MacOS says “close-mouthed” is still correct. Not sure
> what algorithm the script uses or or how it checks validity.
>
> — Dave
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2026, at 9:52 AM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Changes made and pushed to the repo. Take a look and let me know if you
> see any problems. I went with “IT” -> “<em>it</em>” as there were only
> three references. I changed “THING” to “Thing” and confined the change
> to a separate editorial commit.
>
> On Jan 9, 2026, at 8:49 AM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds good.
>
> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:38 PM, Lukas Bystricky <lukasby...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> /Was working through this just now and discovered that there are some
> references to the THING that are done as IT, as in “Can you hear IT?”
> and “IT’s coming!”/
> /
> /
> /They are shown in the scan all-caps. I’m going to convert them to <em>
> tags and not capitalize them at all (i.e., not “It”)./
> /
> /
> /Does that seem like a good choice?/
> /
> /
> If "IT" only appears a couple times that's fine, but if it's repeated a
> bunch then I think you can treat it like you did "THING".
>
> /My thought is to convert the book title to title case wrapped in <i>
> tags and without quotes around it. Thus:/
> /
> /
>
> /If Jeb had but known it his young hopeless was already in the loft
> of the hay barn deep in a small, red-covered book entitled: <i>How
> to Be a Detective</i>./
>
> /
> /
> /Does that seem correct?/
> /
> /
> * <em>
> * <strong>
> * Capitalize it: Thing
> * Capitalize it with article: The Thing
>
>
> I don’t think it’s proper to use “<em>.” It’s more than just
> emphasis. Or even strong emphasis, perhaps.
>
> What do you think?
>
> — Dave
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2026, at 11:05 AM, Lukas Bystricky
> <lukasby...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>
> I agree it looks a bit strange, but it's fine to leave it as
> is. Generally it's too big a rabbit hole to mess with
> punctuation beyond what's in the style guide and more often
> than not typogrify handles this automatically.
>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 5:45:52 PM UTC+1 Dave Roberts
> wrote:
>
> I have this construction occurring in the text:
>
> “Thank you, but;⁠—er⁠—I’m on the wagon, you know,”
> declined the youth.
>
>
> I’ve never seen a semicolon-followed-by-em-dash. I’m
> wondering if the semicolon needs to be removed. The
> original scans show the semicolon present, so the scan
> was accurate. I’m a better-than-average punctuation-
> Nazi, but I’m wondering what is correct to do in this
> instance.
>
> — Dave
>
> On Jan 5, 2026, at 1:17 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
> Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com <http://
> googlegroups.com/>> wrote:
>
> OK, Lukas will manage with Weijia reviewing.a
>
> On 1/4/26 7:43 AM, Dave Roberts wrote:
>> Hi Vince,
>> My apologies. I missed the request for the repo link.
>> Here: https://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-
>> oakdale-affair <http://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-
>> burroughs_the-oakdale-affair><https://github.com/dgr/
>> edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair <http://
>> github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair>>
>> I’m OK with “it’s the law.” Makes it clear and
>> unambiguous. Thanks.
>> — Dave
>> On Jan 3, 2026, at 10:25 PM, Vince
>> <vr_se...@letterboxes.org <http://letterboxes.org/>>
>> wrote:
>> First, as Alex requested, please send a link to your
>> repo, then Alex can assign a manager to the project
>> that will answer any questions you have.
>> SEMoS isn’t suggesting—it’s the law. :) If SEMoS says
>> do it, that’s what we do, regardless of what is in the
>> scans. IOW, do what 8.1.4 says. You’ll find the same
>> thing, e.g., when it comes to italics—SEMoS’ rules for
>> italics apply regardless of what is in the scans.
>> Yes, the title should match, butse build-titlewill
>> take care of that when you get to that step.
>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:08 AM, Dave Roberts
>>> <drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m at the Typogrify section of the Step-by-Step
>>> guide. Specifically, I’m looking through the
>>> checklist in that document and in Style Manual,
>>> section 8. Specifically, I have questions about
>>> section 8.1.4. When I split the text, following the
>>> lead of the page scans, I inserted <h2>Chapter …</h2>
>>> headings and ran the “se split-file…” command. All
>>> that worked well. But now section 8.1.4 is suggesting
>>> to me that I really want to eliminate “Chapter” and
>>> use roman numerals for all of the chapter headings.
>>> Is that what I want? Or should I follow the direction
>>> of the scan and have “Chapter One,” “Chapter Two,”
>>> etc? I noticed that after the automatic processing up
>>> through this point, there is a <title> tag in the
>>> head with roman numerals in it. Should the text in
>>> the <title> tag in the head and the <h2> tag in the
>>> body match?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2026, at 3:08 PM, Dave Roberts
>>> <drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/
>>> ><mailto:drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, you’re right about the multiple chapters.
>>> Overwhelmed by my joy in having found what seemed
>>> like a good scan, I hadn’t noticed that. OK, I’ll
>>> follow those divisions.
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2026, at 2:07 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>> Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com <http://
>>> googlegroups.com/>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, that's a good find, exactly what we need.
>>>
>>> You can use those scans. I see the scans are divided
>>> into more chapters like Robin noted, so you can
>>> divide our edition into multiple chapters too. Then
>>> the editor's note is no longer necessary.
>>>
>>> Please send a link to your repo once you start.
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OK, I’ll revert “close-mouthed” to “closemouthed."

Here’s a judgement call with respect to spelling.

The book has lots of dialectic speech:

<p>“Shucks!” he cried. “I ain’t got nothin’ in my head,” nor did either sense the unconscious humor of the statement. “What I got is a gang o’ thieves an’ murderers, an’ I’m callin’ up thet big city deetectiff to come arter ’em.”</p>

Would you change “deetectiff” to “detective” or leave as is. I can’t find anything suggesting that “deetectiff” was an archaic spelling, so it suggests that was the way Burroughs wanted it to read.

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No, dialect is unchanged, it's spelled that way not because of routine,
but to emphasize how a particular character is speaking uniquely.

On 1/9/26 12:11 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:
> OK, I’ll revert “close-mouthed” to “closemouthed."
>
> Here’s a judgement call with respect to spelling.
>
> The book has lots of dialectic speech:
>
> <p>“Shucks!” he cried. “I ain’t got nothin’ in my head,” nor did
> either sense the unconscious humor of the statement. “What I got is
> a gang o’ thieves an’ murderers, an’ I’m callin’ up thet big city
> deetectiff to come arter ’em.”</p>
>
>
> Would you change “deetectiff” to “detective” or leave as is. I can’t
> find anything suggesting that “deetectiff” was an archaic spelling, so
> it suggests that was the way Burroughs wanted it to read.
>
> — Dave
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2026, at 11:57 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Our dictionary is Merriam-Webster:https://www.merriam-webster.com/
> dictionary/closemouthed <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/
> closemouthed>
>
> On 1/9/26 11:48 AM, Dave Roberts wrote:
>> FYI, there may be a bug in “se modernize-spelling.” I ran it and it
>> changed “close-mouthed” to “closemouthed.” The Oxford English
>> Dictionary that came with MacOS says “close-mouthed” is still correct.
>> Not sure what algorithm the script uses or or how it checks validity.
>> — Dave
>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 9:52 AM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:drob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Changes made and pushed to the repo. Take a look and let me know if
>> you see any problems. I went with “IT” -> “<em>it</em>” as there were
>> only three references. I changed “THING” to “Thing” and confined the
>> change to a separate editorial commit.
>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 8:49 AM, Dave Roberts <drob...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:drob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sounds good.
>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 3:38 PM, Lukas Bystricky <lukasby...@gmail.com
>>        <lukasby...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/><http://gmail.com/
>>            <lukasby...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/><http://gmail.com/
>> <http://gmail.com/>>> wrote:
>>            I agree it looks a bit strange, but it's fine to leave it as
>>            is. Generally it's too big a rabbit hole to mess with
>>            punctuation beyond what's in the style guide and more often
>>            than not typogrify handles this automatically.
>>            On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 5:45:52 PM UTC+1 Dave Roberts
>>            wrote:
>>                I have this construction occurring in the text:
>>                    “Thank you, but;⁠—er⁠—I’m on the wagon, you know,”
>>                    declined the youth.
>>                I’ve never seen a semicolon-followed-by-em-dash. I’m
>>                wondering if the semicolon needs to be removed. The
>>                original scans show the semicolon present, so the scan
>>                was accurate. I’m a better-than-average punctuation-
>>                Nazi, but I’m wondering what is correct to do in this
>>                instance.
>>                — Dave
>>                On Jan 5, 2026, at 1:17 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>                Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com <http://
>> googlegroups.com/><http://
>> googlegroups.com/ <http://googlegroups.com/>>> wrote:
>>                OK, Lukas will manage with Weijia reviewing.a
>>                On 1/4/26 7:43 AM, Dave Roberts wrote:
>>>                Hi Vince,
>>>                My apologies. I missed the request for the repo link.
>>>                Here:https://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-
>>> <https://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the->
>>>                oakdale-affair <http://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-
>>> <http://github.com/dgr/edgar-rice->
>>>                burroughs_the-oakdale-affair><https://github.com/dgr/
>>> <https://github.com/dgr/>
>>>                edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair <http://
>>> github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair <http://
>>> github.com/dgr/edgar-rice-burroughs_the-oakdale-affair>>>
>>>                I’m OK with “it’s the law.” Makes it clear and
>>>                unambiguous. Thanks.
>>>                — Dave
>>>                On Jan 3, 2026, at 10:25 PM, Vince
>>>                <vr_se...@letterboxes.org <http://letterboxes.org/
>>> ><http://letterboxes.org/ <http://letterboxes.org/>>>
>>>                wrote:
>>>                First, as Alex requested, please send a link to your
>>>                repo, then Alex can assign a manager to the project
>>>                that will answer any questions you have.
>>>                SEMoS isn’t suggesting—it’s the law. :) If SEMoS says
>>>                do it, that’s what we do, regardless of what is in the
>>>                scans. IOW, do what 8.1.4 says. You’ll find the same
>>>                thing, e.g., when it comes to italics—SEMoS’ rules for
>>>                italics apply regardless of what is in the scans.
>>>                Yes, the title should match, butse build-titlewill
>>>                take care of that when you get to that step.
>>>>                On Jan 4, 2026, at 10:08 AM, Dave Roberts
>>>>                <drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/><http://
>>>> gmail.com/ <http://gmail.com/>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                I’m at the Typogrify section of the Step-by-Step
>>>>                guide. Specifically, I’m looking through the
>>>>                checklist in that document and in Style Manual,
>>>>                section 8. Specifically, I have questions about
>>>>                section 8.1.4. When I split the text, following the
>>>>                lead of the page scans, I inserted <h2>Chapter …</h2>
>>>>                headings and ran the “se split-file…” command. All
>>>>                that worked well. But now section 8.1.4 is suggesting
>>>>                to me that I really want to eliminate “Chapter” and
>>>>                use roman numerals for all of the chapter headings.
>>>>                Is that what I want? Or should I follow the direction
>>>>                of the scan and have “Chapter One,” “Chapter Two,”
>>>>                etc? I noticed that after the automatic processing up
>>>>                through this point, there is a <title> tag in the
>>>>                head with roman numerals in it. Should the text in
>>>>                the <title> tag in the head and the <h2> tag in the
>>>>                body match?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                On Jan 3, 2026, at 3:08 PM, Dave Roberts
>>>>                <drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/><http://
>>>> gmail.com/ <http://gmail.com/>
>>>>                ><mailto:drob...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/
>>>> ><http://gmail.com/ <http://gmail.com/>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                Ah, you’re right about the multiple chapters.
>>>>                Overwhelmed by my joy in having found what seemed
>>>>                like a good scan, I hadn’t noticed that. OK, I’ll
>>>>                follow those divisions.
>>>>
>>>>                On Jan 3, 2026, at 2:07 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>>>                Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com <http://
>>>> googlegroups.com/><http://
>>>> googlegroups.com/ <http://googlegroups.com/>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                OK, that's a good find, exactly what we need.
>>>>
>>>>                You can use those scans. I see the scans are divided
>>>>                into more chapters like Robin noted, so you can
>>>>                divide our edition into multiple chapters too. Then
>>>>                the editor's note is no longer necessary.
>>>>
>>>>                Please send a link to your repo once you start.
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Right, I guess that’s what I meant.
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