[New Project] the Life of Olaudah Equiano
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B Keith
Apr 9, 2021, 4:26:23 PM4/9/21
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I’ve started on The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African.
I can’t find the version PG used. The only one with all the Subscription I can find is the original edition with all the archaic spelling and use of the long s which isnt int eh PG.
So I am using the 1837 Knapp which was later reprinted by the Negro Universities Press in 1969 — so I figure that gives it some authority:
There is a chapter of Miscellaneous Verses in between Chapters 10 and 11. I have made it its own file with a h2 and will order it there in the spine. Ok?
Cover:
Most of the editions have a painting that was previously thought to be of Olaudah called Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay c1758. Recently though this has now been determined to be a picture of Ignatious Sancho (another 18th century black activist). Some of the rhetoric surrounding the miss-assignation has been quite strident so it might be best to avoid using that image. Similar logic would lead me away from using another image of a black person of means from the 1700s (although so far other images of Ignatious are all I can find and none in any PD sources.)
Thoughts then on the appropriate imagery to use for the cover? Most of Olaudah’s life was spent at at sea—indeed the text reads very similarly to an Aubrey/Maturin or Hornblower novel. Should I look for something nautical or do we feel I should keep digging for something to address the slavery/negro topic.
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Alex Cabal
Apr 9, 2021, 4:57:14 PM4/9/21
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Our cover art choices are going to be fairly limited just by the nature
of the endeavor. I'm fine with using that portrait. The man on the cover
of Twelve Years a Slave isn't Solomon Northup, and the women on the
cover of Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl aren't Linda Brent, and
the man on the cover of Portrait of an Artist isn't James Joyce.
On 4/9/21 3:26 PM, B Keith wrote:
> I’ve started on The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African.
>
> I can’t find the version PG used. The only one with all the Subscription
> I can find is the original edition with all the archaic spelling and
> use of the long s which isnt int eh PG.
>
> So I am using the 1837 Knapp which was later reprinted by the Negro
> Universities Press in 1969 — so I figure that gives it some authority:
> https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up>
>
>
> There is a chapter of Miscellaneous Verses in between Chapters 10 and
> 11. I have made it its own file with a h2 and will order it there in the
> spine. Ok?
>
>
> *Cover:*
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of the endeavor. I'm fine with using that portrait. The man on the cover
of Twelve Years a Slave isn't Solomon Northup, and the women on the
cover of Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl aren't Linda Brent, and
the man on the cover of Portrait of an Artist isn't James Joyce.
On 4/9/21 3:26 PM, B Keith wrote:
> I’ve started on The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African.
>
> I can’t find the version PG used. The only one with all the Subscription
> I can find is the original edition with all the archaic spelling and
> use of the long s which isnt int eh PG.
>
> So I am using the 1837 Knapp which was later reprinted by the Negro
> Universities Press in 1969 — so I figure that gives it some authority:
> https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up>
>
>
> There is a chapter of Miscellaneous Verses in between Chapters 10 and
> 11. I have made it its own file with a h2 and will order it there in the
> spine. Ok?
>
>
> Most of the editions have a painting that was previously thought to be
> of Olaudah called Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay c1758. Recently
> though this has now been determined to be a picture of Ignatious Sancho
> (another 18th century black activist). Some of the rhetoric surrounding
> the miss-assignation has been quite strident so it might be best to
> avoid using that image. Similar logic would lead me away from using
> another image of a black person of means from the 1700s (although so far
> other images of Ignatious are all I can find and none in any PD sources.)
>
> Thoughts then on the appropriate imagery to use for the cover? Most of
> Olaudah’s life was spent at at sea—indeed the text reads very similarly
> to an Aubrey/Maturin or Hornblower novel. Should I look for something
> nautical or do we feel I should keep digging for something to address
> the slavery/negro topic.
>
>
>
>
> of Olaudah called Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay c1758. Recently
> though this has now been determined to be a picture of Ignatious Sancho
> (another 18th century black activist). Some of the rhetoric surrounding
> the miss-assignation has been quite strident so it might be best to
> avoid using that image. Similar logic would lead me away from using
> another image of a black person of means from the 1700s (although so far
> other images of Ignatious are all I can find and none in any PD sources.)
>
> Thoughts then on the appropriate imagery to use for the cover? Most of
> Olaudah’s life was spent at at sea—indeed the text reads very similarly
> to an Aubrey/Maturin or Hornblower novel. Should I look for something
> nautical or do we feel I should keep digging for something to address
> the slavery/negro topic.
>
>
>
>
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
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Alex Cabal
Apr 9, 2021, 4:59:28 PM4/9/21
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If you do select that cover, make sure to send PD proof, and recall that
etchings aren't enough
On 4/9/21 3:26 PM, B Keith wrote:
etchings aren't enough
On 4/9/21 3:26 PM, B Keith wrote:
> I’ve started on The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African.
>
> I can’t find the version PG used. The only one with all the Subscription
> I can find is the original edition with all the archaic spelling and
> use of the long s which isnt int eh PG.
>
> So I am using the 1837 Knapp which was later reprinted by the Negro
> Universities Press in 1969 — so I figure that gives it some authority:
> https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up>
>
>
> There is a chapter of Miscellaneous Verses in between Chapters 10 and
> 11. I have made it its own file with a h2 and will order it there in the
> spine. Ok?
>
>
> *Cover:*
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African.
>
> I can’t find the version PG used. The only one with all the Subscription
> I can find is the original edition with all the archaic spelling and
> use of the long s which isnt int eh PG.
>
> So I am using the 1837 Knapp which was later reprinted by the Negro
> Universities Press in 1969 — so I figure that gives it some authority:
> https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/lifeofolaudahequ00equi_0/page/n9/mode/2up>
>
>
> There is a chapter of Miscellaneous Verses in between Chapters 10 and
> 11. I have made it its own file with a h2 and will order it there in the
> spine. Ok?
>
>
> Most of the editions have a painting that was previously thought to be
> of Olaudah called Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay c1758. Recently
> though this has now been determined to be a picture of Ignatious Sancho
> (another 18th century black activist). Some of the rhetoric surrounding
> the miss-assignation has been quite strident so it might be best to
> avoid using that image. Similar logic would lead me away from using
> another image of a black person of means from the 1700s (although so far
> other images of Ignatious are all I can find and none in any PD sources.)
>
> Thoughts then on the appropriate imagery to use for the cover? Most of
> Olaudah’s life was spent at at sea—indeed the text reads very similarly
> to an Aubrey/Maturin or Hornblower novel. Should I look for something
> nautical or do we feel I should keep digging for something to address
> the slavery/negro topic.
>
>
>
>
> of Olaudah called Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay c1758. Recently
> though this has now been determined to be a picture of Ignatious Sancho
> (another 18th century black activist). Some of the rhetoric surrounding
> the miss-assignation has been quite strident so it might be best to
> avoid using that image. Similar logic would lead me away from using
> another image of a black person of means from the 1700s (although so far
> other images of Ignatious are all I can find and none in any PD sources.)
>
> Thoughts then on the appropriate imagery to use for the cover? Most of
> Olaudah’s life was spent at at sea—indeed the text reads very similarly
> to an Aubrey/Maturin or Hornblower novel. Should I look for something
> nautical or do we feel I should keep digging for something to address
> the slavery/negro topic.
>
>
>
>
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
B Keith
Apr 9, 2021, 5:07:38 PM4/9/21
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That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the original is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far everything I’ve found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King George…seems there was no real interest in reproducing the portrait of the black guy :-(
Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
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Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
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Vince
Apr 9, 2021, 5:21:35 PM4/9/21
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Yeah, I had a heck of a time for Incidents. I would like to do Uncle Tom’s Cabin, but I shudder at finding a cover, and I’m not even going to try it if I don’t have one.
B Keith
Apr 9, 2021, 6:00:27 PM4/9/21
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Vince,
This one is too recent for me but it would work great for Uncle Tom’s Cabin wouldnt it?
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Alex Cabal
Apr 9, 2021, 6:05:13 PM4/9/21
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That one's in use already
On 4/9/21 5:00 PM, B Keith wrote:
> Vince,
>
> This one is too recent for me but it would work great for Uncle Tom’s
> Cabin wouldnt it?
>
> https://www.si.edu/object/lord-my-shepherd:saam_1979.5.13?
> <https://www.si.edu/object/lord-my-shepherd:saam_1979.5.13?>
>>
>> Yeah, I had a heck of a time for /Incidents/. I would like to do
>> /Uncle Tom’s Cabin/, but I shudder at finding a cover, and I’m not
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/80382125-52B0-4506-B49F-1028FF2A109C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
On 4/9/21 5:00 PM, B Keith wrote:
> Vince,
>
> This one is too recent for me but it would work great for Uncle Tom’s
> Cabin wouldnt it?
>
> https://www.si.edu/object/lord-my-shepherd:saam_1979.5.13?
>
>
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org
>> <mailto:vr_se...@letterboxes.org>> wrote:
>
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>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org
>>
>> Yeah, I had a heck of a time for /Incidents/. I would like to do
>> /Uncle Tom’s Cabin/, but I shudder at finding a cover, and I’m not
>> even going to try it if I don’t have one.
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 4:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 4:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:bois...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the
>>> original is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far
>>> everything I’ve found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King
>>> George…seems there was no real interest in reproducing the portrait
>>> of the black guy :-(
>>>
>>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>
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>>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the
>>> original is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far
>>> everything I’ve found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King
>>> George…seems there was no real interest in reproducing the portrait
>>> of the black guy :-(
>>>
>>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>
>>
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Vince
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I’m pretty sure that one’s already in use… Yes, it’s on James Weldon Johnson’s Poetry. But thanks very much for thinking of me; all help is welcome!
B Keith
Apr 9, 2021, 6:13:11 PM4/9/21
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Alex,
A theoretical question. This one is a bit too beat up to use (unless I get real desperate) but I thought I would ask anyway. It doesn’t show up as an image at the Rijksmuseum and the details are not accessible, but the Wikiart page has its status as CC0. Would that be good enough?
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-4988
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hollandse_koopman_met_slaven_in_heuvellandschap_Rijksmuseum_SK-A-4988.jpeg
A theoretical question. This one is a bit too beat up to use (unless I get real desperate) but I thought I would ask anyway. It doesn’t show up as an image at the Rijksmuseum and the details are not accessible, but the Wikiart page has its status as CC0. Would that be good enough?
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-4988
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hollandse_koopman_met_slaven_in_heuvellandschap_Rijksmuseum_SK-A-4988.jpeg
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B Keith
Apr 10, 2021, 12:20:35 PM4/10/21
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t-043, dialog tag missing punctuation
Any idea what I am looking for here?
Any idea what I am looking for here?
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Vince
Apr 10, 2021, 12:58:59 PM4/10/21
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“Blah blah” said Bob “blah blah”.
i.e. no punctuation anywhere in the transition from quote to who said it and back.
B Keith
Apr 10, 2021, 1:10:08 PM4/10/21
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Thanks Vince. It would have to happen in the world’s longest paragraph… :-)
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B Keith
Apr 10, 2021, 1:20:25 PM4/10/21
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No luck with finding any PD proofs of the Olaudah/Ignatious portrait. The picture is everywhere but it doesn't seem to have been reproduced beyond the original etching.
What do you think of this? Its time-period appropriate and Olaudah spends most of his time as the servant to one captain or another. I am still fiddlin’ with the crop.
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Alex Cabal
Apr 10, 2021, 2:50:51 PM4/10/21
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That looks good, though I think adjusting the color makes it look a
little washed out.
On 4/10/21 12:20 PM, B Keith wrote:
> No luck with finding any PD proofs of the Olaudah/Ignatious portrait.
> The picture is everywhere but it doesn't seem to have been reproduced
> beyond the original etching.
>
> What do you think of this? Its time-period appropriate and Olaudah
> spends most of his time as the servant to one captain or another. I am
> still fiddlin’ with the crop.
>
> https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248>
>>>> <mailto:standardebook...@googlegroups.com
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little washed out.
On 4/10/21 12:20 PM, B Keith wrote:
> No luck with finding any PD proofs of the Olaudah/Ignatious portrait.
> The picture is everywhere but it doesn't seem to have been reproduced
> beyond the original etching.
>
> What do you think of this? Its time-period appropriate and Olaudah
> spends most of his time as the servant to one captain or another. I am
> still fiddlin’ with the crop.
>
> https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
>
>
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>
> _________
>
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>
>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:bois...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the original
>> is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far everything I’ve
>> found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King George…seems there was no
>> real interest in reproducing the portrait of the black guy :-(
>>
>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>
>> _________
>>
>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>
>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the original
>> is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far everything I’ve
>> found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King George…seems there was no
>> real interest in reproducing the portrait of the black guy :-(
>>
>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>
>> _________
>>
>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>>> <mailto:standardebook...@googlegroups.com>>.
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Ya I just did a quick levels adjust. Now that its approved I will do it properly and try and retain the colour density.
Thanks
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B Keith
Apr 10, 2021, 4:40:34 PM4/10/21
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Is there any meta-data for alternate author names?
William F Cody vs Buffalo Bill
Olaudah Equiano vs Gustavus Vassa
In both cases the both versions of the name are mentioned in the full titles which only appear in the content.opf:
The Life of Hon. William F. Cody, Known as Buffalo Bill, The Famous Hunter, Scout and Guide. An Autobiography.
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William F Cody vs Buffalo Bill
Olaudah Equiano vs Gustavus Vassa
In both cases the both versions of the name are mentioned in the full titles which only appear in the content.opf:
The Life of Hon. William F. Cody, Known as Buffalo Bill, The Famous Hunter, Scout and Guide. An Autobiography.
The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African
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Alex Cabal
Apr 10, 2021, 4:55:56 PM4/10/21
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No, but you can include those full titles in the metadata and they
should be searchable
should be searchable
B Keith
Apr 21, 2021, 4:18:43 PM4/21/21
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Ok I am at a little bit of a crossroads with this.
Gutenberg seems to have taken their text from the original. This was published in 1789 and contains long s which Gutenberg modernized.
I had intended to use the 1837 Knapp edition to proof against but here I am in Chapter 2 starting to realize that the while pretty much every word is the same, the punctuation is completely different. I caught a lot of it in chapter 1 but I am pretty sure I am missing a lot as well. It would literally take a phrase by phrase comparison because the changes are really idiosyncratic. They have also changed to American spellings in a bunch of instances.
At this point I am thinking I should revert my changes for Chap 1 and stick with the GB versions. What do you think?
GB:
I was trained up from my earliest years in the art of war; my daily exercise was shooting and throwing javelins; and my mother adorned me with emblems, after the manner of our greatest warriors. In this way I grew up till I was turned the age of eleven, when an end was put to my happiness in the following manner:—Generally when the grown people in the neighbourhood were gone far in the fields to labour, the children assembled together in some of the neighbours’ premises to play; and commonly some of us used to get up a tree to look out for any assailant, or kidnapper, that might come upon us; for they sometimes took those opportunities of our parents’ absence to attack and carry off as many as they could seize.
Knapp
I was trained up from my earliest years in the art of war: my daily exercise was shooting and throwing javelins; and my mother adorned me with emblems, after the manner of our greatest warriors. In this way I grew up till I was turned the age of eleven, when an end was put to my happiness in the following manner:—generally when the grown people in the neighbourhood were gone far in the fields to labor, the children assembled together in some of the neighboring premises to play; and commonly some of us used to get up a tree to look out for any assailant, or kidnapper, that might come upon us—for they sometimes took those opportunities of our parents’ absence, to attack and carry off as many as they could seize.
That’s 5 changes in one little excerpt. I am definitely going to miss a lot unless I do this a lot slower.
Bruce
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That doesn't look like a big difference. You can just stick with the PG
transcription.
On 4/21/21 3:18 PM, B Keith wrote:
> Ok I am at a little bit of a crossroads with this.
>
> Gutenberg seems to have taken their text from the original. This was
> published in 1789 and contains long s which Gutenberg modernized.
>
> I /had/ intended to use the 1837 Knapp edition to proof against but here
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/9432cf3f-c5a8-90af-ec86-01e8465c31bb%40standardebooks.org
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/9432cf3f-c5a8-90af-ec86-01e8465c31bb%40standardebooks.org>
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/9A7011B0-C651-4520-9B4D-32BC8588F4F1%40gmail.com>
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/9A7011B0-C651-4520-9B4D-32BC8588F4F1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/9191e597-c87c-557c-d293-7b191b74a153%40standardebooks.org
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On 4/21/21 3:18 PM, B Keith wrote:
> Ok I am at a little bit of a crossroads with this.
>
> Gutenberg seems to have taken their text from the original. This was
> published in 1789 and contains long s which Gutenberg modernized.
>
> I am in Chapter 2 starting to realize that the while pretty much every
> word is the same, the punctuation is completely different. I caught a
> lot of it in chapter 1 but I am pretty sure I am missing a lot as well.
> It would literally take a phrase by phrase comparison because the
> changes are really idiosyncratic. They have also changed to American
> spellings in a bunch of instances.
>
> At this point I am thinking I should revert my changes for Chap 1 and
> stick with the GB versions. What do you think?
>
> GB:
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.69015000002721&view=1up&seq=83 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.69015000002721&view=1up&seq=83>
> word is the same, the punctuation is completely different. I caught a
> lot of it in chapter 1 but I am pretty sure I am missing a lot as well.
> It would literally take a phrase by phrase comparison because the
> changes are really idiosyncratic. They have also changed to American
> spellings in a bunch of instances.
>
> At this point I am thinking I should revert my changes for Chap 1 and
> stick with the GB versions. What do you think?
>
> GB:
>> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>>
>> No, but you can include those full titles in the metadata and they
>> should be searchable
>>
>> On 4/10/21 3:40 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>> Is there any meta-data for alternate author names?
>>> William F Cody vs Buffalo Bill
>>> Olaudah Equiano vs Gustavus Vassa
>>> In both cases the both versions of the name are mentioned in the full
>>> titles which only appear in the content.opf:
>>> The Life of Hon. William F. Cody, Known as Buffalo Bill, The Famous
>>> Hunter, Scout and Guide. An Autobiography.
>>> The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus
>>> Vassa, the African
>>> _________
>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>> On Apr 10, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>
>> No, but you can include those full titles in the metadata and they
>> should be searchable
>>
>> On 4/10/21 3:40 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>> Is there any meta-data for alternate author names?
>>> William F Cody vs Buffalo Bill
>>> Olaudah Equiano vs Gustavus Vassa
>>> In both cases the both versions of the name are mentioned in the full
>>> titles which only appear in the content.opf:
>>> The Life of Hon. William F. Cody, Known as Buffalo Bill, The Famous
>>> Hunter, Scout and Guide. An Autobiography.
>>> The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus
>>> Vassa, the African
>>> _________
>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>> On Apr 10, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>>> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That looks good, though I think adjusting the color makes it look a
>>>> little washed out.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/21 12:20 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>>>> No luck with finding any PD proofs of the Olaudah/Ignatious
>>>>> portrait. The picture is everywhere but it doesn't seem to have
>>>>> been reproduced beyond the original etching.
>>>>> What do you think of this? Its time-period appropriate and Olaudah
>>>>> spends most of his time as the servant to one captain or another. I
>>>>> am still fiddlin’ with the crop.
>>>>> https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248>
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248>>
>>>>> _________
>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:bois...@gmail.com> <mailto:bois...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> That looks good, though I think adjusting the color makes it look a
>>>> little washed out.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/21 12:20 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>>>> No luck with finding any PD proofs of the Olaudah/Ignatious
>>>>> portrait. The picture is everywhere but it doesn't seem to have
>>>>> been reproduced beyond the original etching.
>>>>> What do you think of this? Its time-period appropriate and Olaudah
>>>>> spends most of his time as the servant to one captain or another. I
>>>>> am still fiddlin’ with the crop.
>>>>> https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248>
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248
>>>>> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-2248>>
>>>>> _________
>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 3:07 PM, B Keith <bois...@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:bois...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the
>>>>>> original is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far
>>>>>> everything I’ve found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King
>>>>>> George…seems there was no real interest in reproducing the
>>>>>> portrait of the black guy :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s the next challenge. I found a high res version but the
>>>>>> original is at the Royal Albert in Devon and not CC0. So far
>>>>>> everything I’ve found of Ramsay's has been portraits of King
>>>>>> George…seems there was no real interest in reproducing the
>>>>>> portrait of the black guy :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who’s come across a black gentleman or seaman let me know...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>>
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<header>
<h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
<p>or,</p>
<p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
</header>
My brain is fuzzy this morning. How should I be doin g the “or” in this case?
<h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
<p>or,</p>
<p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
</header>
My brain is fuzzy this morning. How should I be doin g the “or” in this case?
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Is that the half title?
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8
"Or" is part of the subtitle
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8
"Or" is part of the subtitle
B Keith
Apr 27, 2021, 2:06:41 PM4/27/21
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No. There is a section called Miscellaneous Verses that appears between chapter 10 and 11
<body epub:type="bodymatter z3998:fiction">
<section id="miscellaneous-verses" epub:type="chapter">
<p> etc...
On that note I just found that in the original edition which was published in two parts ( Chap 1-6 and Chap 7-12) there were a series of 4 biblical quotes at the end of Chap 6. I was thinking they should also be in their own file. Or should they just be at the end of Chap 6?
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<body epub:type="bodymatter z3998:fiction">
<section id="miscellaneous-verses" epub:type="chapter">
<header>
<h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
<p>or,</p>
<p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
</header>
<blockquote epub:type="z3998:poem">
<h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
<p>or,</p>
<p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
</header>
<p> etc...
On that note I just found that in the original edition which was published in two parts ( Chap 1-6 and Chap 7-12) there were a series of 4 biblical quotes at the end of Chap 6. I was thinking they should also be in their own file. Or should they just be at the end of Chap 6?
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Same principle. "Or," is part of the subtitle, "Reflections.." is the
subtitle, see the headings section of the manual
For quotes, I would just cut them if they were cut in later editions.
They were probably only included as semi-relevant end matter because of
the physical division of volumes.
subtitle, see the headings section of the manual
For quotes, I would just cut them if they were cut in later editions.
They were probably only included as semi-relevant end matter because of
the physical division of volumes.
B Keith
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One last issue and then I think I am done with this. I have been using the working title of The Life of Olaudah Equiano
The real title is The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African
The original proposal called it The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano
Should I leave it as is or change it to The Interesting Narrative...
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"The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano" is fine, see
David Copperfield for an example of how to include the longer title in
the metadata
On 4/27/21 1:34 PM, B Keith wrote:
> One last issue and then I think I am done with this. I have been using
> the working title of /The Life of Olaudah Equiano/
> The real title is /The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African/
> The original proposal called it /The Interesting Narrative of the Life
> of Olaudah Equiano/
>
> Should I leave it as is or change it to /The Interesting Narrative.../
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David Copperfield for an example of how to include the longer title in
the metadata
On 4/27/21 1:34 PM, B Keith wrote:
> One last issue and then I think I am done with this. I have been using
> The real title is /The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah
> Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African/
> The original proposal called it /The Interesting Narrative of the Life
> of Olaudah Equiano/
>
> Should I leave it as is or change it to /The Interesting Narrative.../
>
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
>> On Apr 27, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
> _________
>
> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>
>> On Apr 27, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
>>>> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is that the half title?
>>>> https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8
>>>> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8>
>>>>
>>>> "Or" is part of the subtitle
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/21 12:05 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>>>> <header>
>>>>> <h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
>>>>> <p>or,</p>
>>>>> <p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind
>>>>> during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the
>>>>> Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
>>>>> </header>
>>>>> My brain is fuzzy this morning. How should I be doin g the “or” in
>>>>> this case?
>>>>> _________
>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>>
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>>>> Is that the half title?
>>>> https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8
>>>> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.5.0/single-page#6.5.8>
>>>>
>>>> "Or" is part of the subtitle
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/21 12:05 PM, B Keith wrote:
>>>>> <header>
>>>>> <h2 epub:type="title">Miscellaneous Verses</h2>
>>>>> <p>or,</p>
>>>>> <p epub:type="bridgehead">Reflections on the State of my mind
>>>>> during my first Convictions; of the Necessity of believing the
>>>>> Truth, and experiencing the inestimable Benefits of Christianity.</p>
>>>>> </header>
>>>>> My brain is fuzzy this morning. How should I be doin g the “or” in
>>>>> this case?
>>>>> _________
>>>>> Guadeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus
>>>>>>
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B Keith
Apr 27, 2021, 3:37:12 PM4/27/21
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Ok. I believe I finally got everything. It should be ready for review.
https://github.com/b-t-k/olaudah-equiano_the-life-of-olaudah-equiano
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https://github.com/b-t-k/olaudah-equiano_the-life-of-olaudah-equiano
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Apr 28, 2021, 7:43:57 PM4/28/21
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Can you fix the lint errors?
B Keith
Apr 28, 2021, 8:47:22 PM4/28/21
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Honest to god I don’t know how I do these things. I swear I never touch anything after I run clean/lint etc and yet somehow I still make changes thoughtlessly.
Should be fixed now.
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Should be fixed now.
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Alex Cabal
Apr 29, 2021, 1:30:03 PM4/29/21
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OK, everything looks very good. I've gone ahead and released it, thanks!
B Keith
Apr 29, 2021, 1:48:05 PM4/29/21
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Great. It was a surprising interesting read. I would recommend it to anyone as both a history of British slavery and anyne interested in the age of sail.
For my own edification I had looked up lanthorn in MW and it listed it as a British spelling. Is it in fact an archaic spelling?
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For my own edification I had looked up lanthorn in MW and it listed it as a British spelling. Is it in fact an archaic spelling?
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Robin Whittleton
Apr 29, 2021, 1:49:07 PM4/29/21
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It’s certainly not a modern one in British english.
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Alex Cabal
Apr 29, 2021, 1:56:18 PM4/29/21
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Yes, it's archaic. Recently added to the script.
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