[First Project] Emily of New Moon - Lucy Maud Montgomery

Ben

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May 18, 2024, 1:21:45 PMMay 18

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I'd like to contribute to this awesome project by doing Emily of New Moon by L. M. Montgomery, found here. I didn't see anyone talk about doing this in the group. I'm not very familiar with how git works and how to do versioning stuff with it, but I know how to use html tags and I know how to read directions so here I am. This is my first time trying something like this so I'll probably have lots of questions, but hopefully it'll be ok!

Alex Cabal

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May 18, 2024, 5:32:16 PMMay 18

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This one is slightly longer than our suggested maximum length for first
time producers, but not by much, so you can give it a try if you want.

There is quite a bit of verse and poetry, as well as letters, and some
of them seem to be spelled idiosyncratically so you will have to make
sure our tools don't update something incorrectly.

If this is your first time using Git, and you only have a passing
familiarity with HTML, I suggest you first read a Git tutorial and look
at MDN to see a list of current HTML elements and their semantic
meanings. Semantics are very important for SE ebooks.

A Git tutorial is especially important because if something goes wrong,
fixing it can be extremely difficult depending on what happened. You
don't want to get in a situation where you did something like mixed
editorial commits in with other changes and need to rebase them out.
Lots of people give up when that happens because Git doesn't make it easy.

Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
and typography sections:

https://standardebooks.org/manual

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https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography

The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:

https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-step

Please email often if you have any questions at all. Our standards are
well-established so there is probably already a standard for formatting
whatever problem you've encountered.

When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
that I can mark you as having started.

Have fun! :)

On 5/17/24 10:55 PM, Ben wrote:
> I'd like to contribute to this awesome project by doing Emily of New
> Moon by L. M. Montgomery, found here

> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/61236>. I didn't see anyone talk about

> doing this in the group. I'm not very familiar with how git works and
> how to do versioning stuff with it, but I know how to use html tags and
> I know how to read directions so here I am. This is my first time trying
> something like this so I'll probably have lots of questions, but
> hopefully it'll be ok!
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Ben

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May 19, 2024, 8:58:44 PMMay 19

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As long as there's not a time limit on this I'm comfortable with the length. I would imagine there's not one. I'm using Anne of Green Gables as a reference for some things, just to see what's been done before. A question that I'm seeing right now is the <0xa0> in the text files, I'm assuming that's the no break space mentioned in section 8.10.7.3?

Alex Cabal

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May 19, 2024, 10:21:23 PMMay 19

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There's no time limit, but if there hasn't been progress for a month or
two then usually we mark the book as abandoned and return it to the list.

0xa0 is no break space, common for a lot of uses including following
some titles. Typogrify will put them in for you automatically in almost
all cases.

Please send a link to your repo so we can mark you as started. Thanks!

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Ben

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May 20, 2024, 12:02:41 AMMay 20

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Alright I think I have the repo figured out here.

https://github.com/Revali25/emilyofnewmoon

Hopefully this is a good start!

Alex Cabal

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May 20, 2024, 12:06:54 AMMay 20

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Emma, can you manage this with Lukas reviewing?

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Emma Sweeney

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May 20, 2024, 12:15:45 AMMay 20

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I can manage.

Emma

Lukas Bystricky

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May 20, 2024, 2:08:21 AMMay 20

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I'll review.

Ben

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May 20, 2024, 9:39:57 PMMay 20

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Is someone able to take a look at chapter 9 and 10 to see if I've formatted the poetry and letters correctly? Specifically the poetry, I'm pretty sure I got it right based on the style guide, but just want to make sure.

Thanks!

Emma Sweeney

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May 21, 2024, 7:46:23 AMMay 21

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Make sure to run `se lint .` to see errors found in chapter 9's letter. Since the chapters only includes bits of poems, use `z3998:verse` instead of `z3998:poem`. You also need to add CSS for z3998:verse. Check the page scans to see if the verse has indents or not.

Emma

Ben

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May 29, 2024, 10:12:57 PMMay 29

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With regards to cover art I found these from the national gallery of art in DC. They're marked as public domain but just to check, do I need to find a public domain book they're printed in to make sure they're actually public domain?

I picked them because they look like Emily's description, and in addition there are three of them, they are pretty similar visually, but if they would work for all the books in the trilogy that would be pretty perfect.

I was thinking this painting for this book.

Title: Woman Standing by a Tree

Artist: Auguste Renoir (1841-1919)

Year: 1866

Dimensions: 25.2x15.9cm

Image dimensions: 2555x4096px

It crops nicely to 1400x2100 with nothing too crazy cropped out.

Hopefully these are good!

Ben

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May 29, 2024, 10:18:45 PMMay 29

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The other two are here and here as well.

Emma Sweeney

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May 29, 2024, 10:44:04 PMMay 29

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You can use any of those without addition PD proof, because the icon leads to an Open Access policy mentioning a CC0 license.

The painting for the cover looks good! I'll add all three to the art db.

Emma

Ben

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May 29, 2024, 11:09:57 PMMay 29

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Just to double check to make sure I don't do this incorrectly, I'm good to commit the image to the repo?

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Emma Sweeney

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May 29, 2024, 11:18:45 PMMay 29

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Correct.

Emma

Ben

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Jun 4, 2024, 11:41:06 PMJun 4

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I've made some editorial commits for review, in addition to some error fixing. Let me know if there are any that don't look right, and I'll fix them!

Thanks,

Ben

Emma Sweeney

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Jun 5, 2024, 12:35:46 AMJun 5

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Ben, is this ready for Lukas to review?

Emma

Ben

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Jun 5, 2024, 12:41:50 AMJun 5

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I haven't completed content.opf as of right now, been slowly working on that, if that's the last step before review then it's not ready but everything else is.

Thanks,

Ben

Emma Sweeney

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Jun 5, 2024, 1:03:21 AMJun 5

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Ok, I'll let Lukas look at the editorial commits during his review. Let us know when you're ready!

Emma.

Ben

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Jun 5, 2024, 3:48:08 PMJun 5

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Alright I've finished filling in content.opf, it's ready for review!

Emma Sweeney

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`se clean .` is giving an error. Can you fix this before the review?

Emma

Ben

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Jun 5, 2024, 6:06:44 PMJun 5

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Oh yeah, definitely. The error seems to be about semantic inflections in an block, do I need to have the proper inflection (such as in this case) for the long description? or is just fine?

Emma Sweeney

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Jun 5, 2024, 6:14:20 PMJun 5

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You don't need semantic inflection in the long description. is fine.

Emma

Ben

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Jun 5, 2024, 6:36:38 PMJun 5

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Alright, fixed that, now se lint is showing no errors, it should be good for review now.

Thanks,

Ben

Lukas Bystricky

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Hi Ben,

Overall it looks good, but there are a few issues with the repo that might require some work. I've filed an issue, let me know if you have any questions.

Alex Cabal

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Ben, do you have this wrapped up?

> <https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.52212.html> and here <https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.52210.html> as well.

> <https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.52211.html> painting for this book.
> Title: /Woman
> Standing by a Tree/

> `z3998:verse` instead of `z3998:poem`. You also need to add CSS for z3998:verse <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.0/single-page#7.5>. Check the page scans to see if the verse has indents or not.

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Ben

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Not quite yet! Just got back from vacation this weekend, I should have some progress by the end of the week.

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Hi Ben, checking in to see if you can wrap this up soon. If not then
we'll mark it as abandoned and put it back on the wanted list.

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Hello Alex,

I’m still having trouble with git and some unnecessary commits. Lukas and I are working on that part still. I currently have 6/12 things done, with the rest being commit issues. I am still working on it.

Alex Cabal

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OK, thanks. Rebasing can be annoying but most anything is possible with
the right Git command. Remember you can just make a copy of your ebook
directory somewhere, so if a rebase goes wrong you can just copy the
backup back instead of trying to untangle things further.

On 7/15/24 12:12 PM, Ben wrote:
> Hello Alex,
>
> I’m still having trouble with git and some unnecessary commits. Lukas
> and I are working on that part still. I currently have 6/12 things done,
> with the rest being commit issues. I am still working on it.
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 13:00 Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben, checking in to see if you can wrap this up soon. If not then
> we'll mark it as abandoned and put it back on the wanted list.
>
> On 6/25/24 11:16 AM, Ben wrote:
> > Not quite yet! Just got back from vacation this weekend, I should
> have
> > some progress by the end of the week.
> >
> > Ben Winstead
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>
> > <standar...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Alex Cabal
> > <al...@standardebooks.org <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>>

> > *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2024 3:26:12 PM
> > *To:* standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>
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> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>>

> > *Subject:* Re: [standardebooks] [First Project] Emily of New Moon
> - Lucy
> > Maud Montgomery
> > Ben, do you have this wrapped up?
> >
> > On 6/6/24 1:29 AM, Lukas Bystricky wrote:
> >> Hi Ben,
> >>
> >> Overall it looks good, but there are a few issues with the repo
> that
> >> might require some work. I've filed an issue, let me know if you
> have
> >> any questions.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:36:38 AM UTC+2

> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alright, fixed that, now se lint is showing no errors, it
> should be
> >> good for review now.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 6:14:20 PM UTC-4 Emma Sweeney
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You don't need semantic inflection in the long
> description. 
> >> is fine.
> >>
> >> Emma
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 6:06:44 PM UTC-4

> >> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh yeah, definitely. The error seems to be about
> semantic
> >> inflections in an block, do I need to have the
> proper
> >> inflection (such as epub:type="se:name.publication.book">
> >> in this case) for the long description? or is just
> fine?
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 5:12:37 PM UTC-4 Emma
> Sweeney
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> `se clean .` is giving an error. Can you fix
> this before
> >> the review?
> >>
> >> Emma
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 3:48:08 PM UTC-4

> >> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alright I've finished filling in
> content.opf, it's
> >> ready for review!
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 1:03:21 AM
> UTC-4 Emma
> >> Sweeney wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I'll let Lukas look at the editorial
> commits
> >> during his review. Let us know when
> you're ready!
> >>
> >> Emma.
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at
> 12:41:50 AM UTC-4

> >> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I haven't completed content.opf as
> of right
> >> now, been slowly working on that, if
> that's
> >> the last step before review then
> it's not
> >> ready but everything else is.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at
> 12:35:46 AM
> >> UTC-4 Emma Sweeney wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben, is this ready for Lukas to
> review?
> >>
> >> Emma
> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at
> 11:41:06 PM
> >> UTC-4 bjwins...@gmail.com

> <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've made some editorial
> commits for
> >> review, in addition to some
> error
> >> fixing. Let me know if
> there are
> >> any that don't look right,
> and I'll
> >> fix them!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at
> >> 11:18:45 PM UTC-4 Emma
> Sweeney wrote:
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >>
> >> Emma
> >> On Wednesday, May 29,
> 2024 at
> >> 11:09:57 PM UTC-4

> >> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to double check
> to make
> >> sure I don't do this
> >> incorrectly, I'm good to
> >> commit the image to
> the repo?
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at
> >> 10:44 PM Emma Sweeney
> >> <sween...@gmail.com

> <mailto:sween...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> You can use any
> of those
> >> without addition PD
> >> proof, because
> the icon
> >> leads to an Open
> Access
> >> policy
> mentioning a CC0
> >> license.
> >>
> >> The painting for the
> >> cover looks
> good! I'll
> >> add all three to
> the art db.
> >>
> >>
> >> Emma
> >> On Wednesday,
> May 29,
> >> 2024 at 10:18:45 PM
> >> UTC-4

> >> bjwins...@gmail.com <mailto:bjwins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is
> >>
> someone
> >>
> able to
> >>
> take a
> >>
> look at
> >>
> chapter
> >>
> 9 and 10
> >>
> to see
> >>
> if I've
> >>
> formatted the poetry and letters correctly? Specifically the poetry,
> I'm pretty sure I got it right based on the style guide, but just
> want to make sure.
> >>
> Thanks!
> >>
> >> On
> >>
> Monday,
> >>
> May 20,
> >>
> 2024 at
> >>

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