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Dylan Werner

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Apr 11, 2025, 9:41:24 PMApr 11
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I'd like to try making ebooks starting with the first book of the Fantômas series.

(doesn't seem to be on archive.org)

I'll be sure to include metadata marking it as the first of the series.

Cheers,
Dylan

Alex Cabal

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Sure, that one would be a good start.

You might be able to use the first edition cover art as the cover, I
think it would fit well. You'd have to use Gimp/Photoshop to remove the
title and other text from the painting, though you could crop it above
the editor credit at the very bottom.

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Have fun! :)


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> I'd like to try making ebooks starting with the first book of the /
> Fantômas/ series.
>
> Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794
> Scans: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885
> (doesn't seem to be on archive.org)
>
> I'll be sure to include metadata marking it as the first of the series.
>
> Cheers,
> Dylan
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Dylan Werner

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Apr 12, 2025, 3:44:43 AMApr 12
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Here is my repo:

Thanks for the direction on the cover. Attaching a work-in-progress mockup.

Dylan

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Alex Cabal

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OK, looks good. Robin will manage this with Weijia reviewing.

On 4/12/25 2:44 AM, Dylan Werner wrote:
> Here is my repo:
> https://github.com/dylanwerner/pierre-souvestre_marcel-
> allain_fantomas_cranstoun-metcalfe
>
> Thanks for the direction on the cover. Attaching a work-in-progress mockup.
>
> Dylan
>
> cover.jpg
>
> On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 9:55:27 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Sure, that one would be a good start.
>
> You might be able to use the first edition cover art as the cover, I
> think it would fit well. You'd have to use Gimp/Photoshop to remove the
> title and other text from the painting, though you could crop it above
> the editor credit at the very bottom.
>
> Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
> as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
> particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
> and typography sections:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual <https://standardebooks.org/manual>
>
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> This page on common issues in older books may be useful:
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> On 4/11/25 5:40 PM, Dylan Werner wrote:
> > I'd like to try making ebooks starting with the first book of the /
> > Fantômas/ series.
> >
> > Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794 <https://
> gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794>
> > Scans: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885 <https://
> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885>
> > (doesn't seem to be on archive.org <http://archive.org>)
> >
> > I'll be sure to include metadata marking it as the first of the
> series.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dylan
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Weijia Cheng

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Apr 12, 2025, 1:24:44 PMApr 12
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Ok, noted.

Dylan Werner

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Apr 13, 2025, 10:39:09 AMApr 13
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I am halfway through a proofread of the book. Here are my descriptions and cover for review...

Short description:
A shapeshifting arch-villain terrorizes Paris while evading its best detective.

Long description:
A spectre is haunting Paris—Fantômas! Known as the “Lord of Terror,” he is a master of disguise who leaves behind him a trail of appalling and imaginative crimes. For the renowned Inspector Juve, catching Fantômas becomes his singular obsession.

First published in 1911, Fantômas was perhaps inspired by Ravachol and other real-life terrorists of the time. Pierre Souvestre and Marcel Allain's character captured the imagination of the French public. He floats in and out of the text under assumed identities, creating a surrealistic effect which caused the book to be celebrated by luminaries of the avant-garde from Guillaume Apollinaire to René Magritte. It and was adapted into a classic early silent film serial by Louis Feuillade in 1913 and is presented here in its English translation of 1915 by Cranstoun Metcalfe.

Cover source:

Photoshopped 1400x2100 cover is attached.

I don't consider myself a great copywriter so editorial suggestions are welcome, and please let me know if I'm good to commit the cover to the repo.

Thank you!
Dylan
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Robin Whittleton

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Apr 13, 2025, 12:06:11 PMApr 13
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Leaving aside a couple of grammatical mistakes (“It and was”, “surrealistic” vs “surreal” maybe) this sounds great.

I’ll add the cover to the artworks DB, so you can commit. The only reservation I have is that Wikimedia’s source image (found on https://www.benjaminspademan.com/new-index#/new-gallery-1) isn’t itself data, but Alex has given the OK already and worst case we can always rebase.

The illustrator seems to be Gino Starace (as per https://journals.openedition.org/belphegor/110) so he can be added to content.opf as the artist.

-Robin

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Dylan Werner

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Apr 13, 2025, 12:46:33 PMApr 13
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Great, I'll fix those mistakes and commit.

The illustrator is a bit of a mystery. That article you linked (which is great, thank you for sharing), treats Starace as the illustrator in the body of the text (because he is definitely the illustrator of later books in the series), but then has a footnote (https://journals.openedition.org/belphegor/110#ftn12) which indicates the cover of the first book is unsigned, is in a different style, and is likely not by Starace. Let me know if I should still indicate him as the illustrator in the metadata.

-Dylan

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Robin Whittleton

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Oh, OK, I totally misread the article 🤦‍♂️ In that case go with Anonymous, see https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.1/single-page#6.6.4.4.

-Robin

Alex Cabal

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Apr 13, 2025, 2:53:34 PMApr 13
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I would like to read more about the plot. What happens in this book? Why
is it interesting? Why did it become popular and spawn a series? We
don't talk about any of that.

We don't have to mention adaptations or the translator - the translator
is listed in the metadata.
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> > On 4/11/25 5:40 PM, Dylan Werner wrote:
> > > I'd like to try making ebooks starting with the first book
> of the /
> > > Fantômas/ series.
> > >
> > > Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794 <https://
> gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794> <https://
> > gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794 <http://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794>>
> > > Scans: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885
> <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885> <https://
> > catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/012348885 <http://
> <http://archive.org <http://archive.org>>)
> > >
> > > I'll be sure to include metadata marking it as the first of
> the
> > series.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dylan
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Dylan Werner

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Good call. Will revise.

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Dylan Werner

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Here is a revised description with more plot included in the first paragraph and more cultural context in the second. Note that I felt like I should cite the Robin Walz book but am not sure how, so would appreciate guidance there...


---


The savage murder of the Marquise de Langrune in her chateau leaves local authorities baffled. The preeminent detective from Paris, Inspector Juve, recognizes in the case the hand of Fantômas—a criminal so prodigiously evil and elusive that many consider him to be a myth. Following the arch-criminal’s trail of murders, jewelry heists, and bombings, the indomitable Juve tracks suspects from the dive bars of the underworld to the ballrooms of high society, donning as many disguises as his shapeshifting nemesis in the process.


Published in 1911, Fantômas was first conceived when publisher Arthème Fayard sought out Pierre Souvestre and Marcel Allain to create a new series that would capitalize on the French public’s appetite for detective novels—Arsène Lupin, Zigomar, and Nick Carter were already popular characters whose exploits could be read in periodicals of the time. The two collaborators used an ingenious form of literary mass production, with each one writing alternate chapters, to write a sequel every month for several years. The exploits, elaborate crimes, indeterminate identities, technological gadgetry, and gruesome violence made it a hit with the public, and the 32 volumes written by Souvestre and Allain sold over five million copies. But Fantômas reached beyond the typical audience for pulp fiction, as well, receiving tributes and praise from luminaries of the avant-garde like Guillaume Apollinaire, André Breton, Max Jacob, René Magritte, and other artists, who read the stories at the level of their imaginary poetics and appreciated the impossible paradoxes and displaced identities therein.


N.B. This synopsis is indebted to the work of Robin Walz (see: Pulp Surrealism: Insolent Popular Culture in Early Twentieth-Century Paris. University of California Press, 2000).


---


Cheers,

Dylan


Alex Cabal

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OK, but why are you indebted to someone for the synopsis? If it's copy
and paste or a minor rewording then we can't do that, and you should
rewrite it in your own words. If not then we don't need to credit anyone
for your own words.

On 4/13/25 4:20 PM, Dylan Werner wrote:
> Here is a revised description with more plot included in the first
> paragraph and more cultural context in the second. Note that I felt like
> I should cite the Robin Walz book but am not sure how, so would
> appreciate guidance there...
>
>
> ---
>
>
> The savage murder of the Marquise de Langrune in her chateau leaves
> local authorities baffled. The preeminent detective from Paris,
> Inspector Juve, recognizes in the case the hand of Fantômas—a criminal
> so prodigiously evil and elusive that many consider him to be a myth.
> Following the arch-criminal’s trail of murders, jewelry heists, and
> bombings, the indomitable Juve tracks suspects from the dive bars of the
> underworld to the ballrooms of high society, donning as many disguises
> as his shapeshifting nemesis in the process.
>
>
> Published in 1911, /Fantômas/ was first conceived when publisher Arthème
> Fayard sought out Pierre Souvestre and Marcel Allain to create a new
> series that would capitalize on the French public’s appetite for
> detective novels—Arsène Lupin, Zigomar, and Nick Carter were already
> popular characters whose exploits could be read in periodicals of the
> time. The two collaborators used an ingenious form of literary mass
> production, with each one writing alternate chapters, to write a sequel
> every month for several years. The exploits, elaborate crimes,
> indeterminate identities, technological gadgetry, and gruesome violence
> made it a hit with the public, and the 32 volumes written by Souvestre
> and Allain sold over five million copies. But /Fantômas/ reached beyond
> the typical audience for pulp fiction, as well, receiving tributes and
> praise from luminaries of the avant-garde like Guillaume Apollinaire,
> André Breton, Max Jacob, René Magritte, and other artists, who read the
> stories at the level of their imaginary poetics and appreciated the
> impossible paradoxes and displaced identities therein.
>
>
> N.B. This synopsis is indebted to the work of Robin Walz (see: /Pulp
> Surrealism: Insolent Popular Culture in Early Twentieth-Century Paris/.
> weij...@bu.edu <mailto:weij...@bu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >     Ok, noted.
> >
> >     On Saturday, April 12, 2025 at 1:18:37 PM UTC-4 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
> >
> >         OK, looks good. Robin will manage this with Weijia
> reviewing.
> >
> >         On 4/12/25 2:44 AM, Dylan Werner wrote:
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> standard for
> >         formatting
> >          > whatever problem you've encountered.
> >          >
> >          > When you're ready, email back with a link to your
> Github
> >         repository so
> >          > that I can mark you as having started.
> >          >
> >          > Have fun! :)
> >          >
> >          >
> >          > On 4/11/25 5:40 PM, Dylan Werner wrote:
> >          > > I'd like to try making ebooks starting with the
> first book
> >         of the /
> >          > > Fantômas/ series.
> >          > >
> >          > > Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794> <https://
> > gutenberg.org/ebooks/27794 <http://gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/27794>> <https://
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> >          > >
> >          > > I'll be sure to include metadata marking it as
> the first of
> >         the
> >          > series.
> >          > >
> >          > > Cheers,
> >          > > Dylan
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Dylan Werner

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No, it's not plagiarized. It's just that all the facts from the second paragraph come from that book, not my own research. Anyway, I'll lose the citation.

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Dylan Werner

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Weijia Cheng

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Ok, I will try to review it soon!

Weijia Cheng

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Great work on your first project so far! I filed a review. Most of the requested changes are very minor apart from a rebase to change the name of some commits. Please let me know if you have any question!

Dylan Werner

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Thanks Weija!

I made the requested changes and rebased the commits (reworded the commit messages, to be more specific), so I think it's all good, but I did notice the timestamps of the commits changed... Is that expected behavior when rebasing or did I do something wrong?

Also thanks for clarifying the policy for <spans> on foreign-language proper names. That's going to save me A LOT of time on the next one. 🤦

Dylan

Weijia Cheng

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This looks good! Yes, you should expect the timestamps of the commits to change during a rebase.

Alex, this is ready for you.

Alex Cabal

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Great work Dylan, thanks! I've gone ahead and released it.

If you'd like to work on something more advanced next, check our wanted
list for moderate-difficulty productions, or pitch something else that
might interest you.
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> dylanwerner/pierre-souvestre_marcel-
> allain_fantomas_cranstoun-metcalfe>
> >         <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
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> >         souvestre_marcel->
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> >         souvestre_marcel- <https://
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> >          >          > https://
> standardebooks.org/manual <https://
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> >          >         <https://
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> >          >          >
> >          >          > https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4- <https://
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> >         semantics <https://
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> >          >         <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics
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> >         <https://standardebooks.org/manual/
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> semantics>>>>
> >          >          >
> >          >          > https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high->
> >         level- <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/latest/7-high-level- <https://
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> >          >         structural- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/ <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/>
> >         latest/7-high- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high->>
> >          >         level-structural->
> >          >          > patterns <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/ <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/>
> >         latest/7-high- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high->>
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> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-
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> >          >          > structural-patterns>
> >          >          >
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> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8->
> >         typography <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography
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> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8- <https://
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> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-
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> >          >          >
> >          >          > The step by step guide
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> >          >          > by-step>
> >          >          >
> >          >          > This page on common
> issues in older books may be
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> >          >          >
> >          >          > https://
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> >          >         issues-when->
> >          >          > working-on-public-
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> standardebooks.org/> <https://
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> gutenberg.org/ <http://gutenberg.org/>
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