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David

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Jun 24, 2024, 12:48:47 PMJun 24
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Now that I'm finally into the long proofreading of The Heart of Midlothian, I'd like to start prepping something a little lighter. :)


This is a "Haycraft-Queen" title; given its Wikipedia entry, I'm surprised we don't have it already. Hope this looks okay to be getting on with.

David / Fife, UK

Alex Cabal

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Sure! Cut the illustrations though I see at least one map that you
should keep.

On 6/24/24 11:48 AM, David wrote:
> Now that I'm finally into the long proofreading of /The Heart of
> Midlothian/, I'd like to start prepping something a little lighter. :)
>
> PG transcription: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/4047
> IA scans: https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich
>
> This is a "Haycraft-Queen" title; given its Wikipedia entry
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leavenworth_Case>, I'm surprised we
> don't have it already. Hope this looks okay to be getting on with.
>
> David / Fife, UK
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David

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Jun 25, 2024, 11:24:23 AMJun 25
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Looks like there are two floorplans to include with this one. For the record, initial commit:

https://github.com/dajare/anna-katharine-green_the-leavenworth-case

D.

David

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Jun 25, 2024, 12:20:38 PMJun 25
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And a question before I "split":

The novel is split into four "Books", but the chapters are numbered consecutively throughout, 1-39, so the first chapters of each book would be:
  • Bk I = 1
  • Bk II = 14
  • Bk III = 27
  • Bk IV = 34
This is the case for all the printings of the novel I have checked (n = 6). Typically (I think), chapter numbering would restart with each "book".

I see the rules in SEMoS § 2.2.4.3 that would/should cover this. My guess, then, is that the chapters would have something like, e.g.:

    <section data-parent="book-2" id="chapter-14" epub:type="chapter">

for the first chapter of "Book II", which would be `chapter-14.xhtml`.  If someone would be kind enough to confirm or correct, I'd be grateful!

D.
 

Alex Cabal

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Jun 25, 2024, 12:28:29 PMJun 25
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If this is a very long book then it may just have been split into
"books" for physical convenience. If that's the case we can remove the
book divisions. If not then your example is correct.

On 6/25/24 11:20 AM, David wrote:
> And a question before I "split":
>
> The novel is split into four "Books", but the chapters are numbered
> consecutively throughout, 1-39, so the first chapters of each book would be:
>
> * Bk I = 1
> * Bk II = 14
> * Bk III = 27
> * Bk IV = 34
>
> This is the case for all the printings of the novel I have checked (n =
> 6). Typically (I think), chapter numbering would restart with each "book".
>
> I see the rules in SEMoS § 2.2.4.3
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.0/single-page#2.2.4.3> that
> would/should cover this. My guess, then, is that the chapters would have
> something like, e.g.:
>
>     <section data-parent="book-2" id="chapter-14" epub:type="chapter">
>
> for the first chapter of "Book II", which would be `chapter-14.xhtml`.
> If someone would be kind enough to confirm or correct, I'd be grateful!
>
> D.
>
> On Monday 24 June 2024 at 19:19:19 UTC+1 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Sure! Cut the illustrations though I see at least one map that you
> should keep.
>
> On 6/24/24 11:48 AM, David wrote:
> > Now that I'm finally into the long proofreading of /The Heart of
> > Midlothian/, I'd like to start prepping something a little
> lighter. :)
> >
> > PG transcription: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/4047
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/4047>
> > IA scans:
> https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich>
>
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David

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Jun 25, 2024, 12:31:45 PMJun 25
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Thanks, Alex - it's not that long, ~110K words (around 400pp in the scans I'm using), so I'll go with "my example", then.

D. 

On Tuesday 25 June 2024 at 17:28:29 UTC+1 Alex Cabal wrote:
If this is a very long book then it may just have been split into
"books" for physical convenience. If that's the case we can remove the
book divisions. If not then your example is correct.

On 6/25/24 11:20 AM, David wrote:
> And a question before I "split":
> . . .

David

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Jun 27, 2024, 11:34:31 AMJun 27
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I've got a(nother) conundrum in this one: there are three pages presenting letters with gaps, these are sometimes filled with lines, sometimes with space. They're on pages 205-207:

pp205-207.jpg
Some of them can follow our "obscured text" guidelines, but quite a few don't, especially where blanks are left (bottom 206 onto 207).

There's also the paragraph about 2/3 down p. 206 with italics to refer back to items in the puzzling text. Should these go to quotation marks?

Thanks for help with this!

D.


Alex Cabal

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Jun 27, 2024, 1:54:08 PMJun 27
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For the elided words you can repeat em dashes until it looks about
right. The text in italics should be quoted instead, yes.

On 6/27/24 10:34 AM, David wrote:
> I've got a(nother) conundrum in this one: there are three pages
> presenting letters with gaps, these are sometimes filled with lines,
> sometimes with space. They're on pages 205-207
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/204/mode/2up?view=theater>:
>
> pp205-207.jpg
> Some of them can follow our "obscured text" guidelines, but quite a few
> don't, especially where blanks are left (bottom 206 onto 207).
>
> There's also the paragraph about 2/3 down p. 206 with italics to refer
> back to items in the puzzling text. Should these go to quotation marks?
>
> Thanks for help with this!
>
> D.
>
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David

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Jun 28, 2024, 7:03:09 AMJun 28
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Thanks - I'm wondering now about the version of the letter with blank spaces (on pp. 206-7 in that scan).

I'm sure we don't want to fill those spaces with repeated `&nbsp;` (pretty sure!). I've trialled a test version (not in repo) for this bit, using `white-space: pre;` for spans, and a `<div>` for the full length line. That seemed to me to be the best combination of representation and "semantics" ... but I may well have guessed wrong.

I put up a version of it online, and `CTRL-U` will show the style rules I've used (a few values simply for the purpose of that test: like `max-width`).

Is there a better / preferred way of handling this? I'm not sure what it means for screen-readers, either (Robin?)...

Thanks for further help/input with this one!

D.

Alex Cabal

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Jun 28, 2024, 12:27:35 PMJun 28
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Elided words aren't a matter of semantics, but typography. This is a
highly stylized letter so just using &nbsp; is fine here I think.
white-space: pre is almost never what we want to do because it preserves
all white space, which can create surprising results when the window is
resized or when straying from even the most basic formatting.

On 6/28/24 6:03 AM, David wrote:
> Thanks - I'm wondering now about the version of the letter with blank
> spaces (onpp. 206-7
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/206/mode/2up?view=theater> in that scan).
>
> I'm sure we don't want to fill those spaces with repeated `&nbsp;`
> (pretty sure!). I've trialled a test version (not in repo) for this bit,
> using `white-space: pre;` for spans, and a `<div>` for the full length
> line. That seemed to me to be the best combination of representation and
> "semantics" ... but I may well have guessed wrong.
>
> I put up a version of it online
> <https://www.sudalyph.org/seci/file/c22-space-test.html>, and `CTRL-U`
> will show the style rules I've used (a few values simply for the purpose
> of that test: like `max-width`).
>
> Is there a better / preferred way of handling this? I'm not sure what it
> means for screen-readers, either (Robin?)...
>
> Thanks for further help/input with this one!
>
> D.
>
> On Thursday 27 June 2024 at 18:54:08 UTC+1 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> For the elided words you can repeat em dashes until it looks about
> right. The text in italics should be quoted instead, yes.
>
> On 6/27/24 10:34 AM, David wrote:
> > I've got a(nother) conundrum in this one: there are three pages
> > presenting letters with gaps, these are sometimes filled with lines,
> > sometimes with space. They're on pages 205-207
> >
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/204/mode/2up?view=theater <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/204/mode/2up?view=theater>>
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David

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Jul 4, 2024, 10:50:32 AMJul 4
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This one has more quirks than I anticipated. :/  I'm just formatting the chapter epigraphs now, and am dealing with this one:

Screenshot from 2024-07-04 15-37-09.png

It took me ages to track down the source. The second extract is cited from "Trap's Abram.", and is so cited in another 1828 publication. But it comes from Joseph Trapp's play, Abra-Mulè: or Love and Empire (1704; more info here).

So, two questions, I suppose: (1) Should the attribution be adjusted ([Editorial] of course) to "Trapp, Abra-Mulè"? I take it "Abram." must be an abbreviation, but a bit of a puzzling one.

And (2) should "The Same" (= "Ibid.") be retained as the attribution for the second extract?

Thanks once again. D.

Alex Cabal

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Sure, you can correct the citation. Good find. You can leave the second
one as "The Same".

On 7/4/24 9:50 AM, David wrote:
> This one has more quirks than I anticipated. :/  I'm just formatting the
> chapter epigraphs now, and am dealing with this one
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/296/mode/1up?view=theater>:
>
> Screenshot from 2024-07-04 15-37-09.png
>
> It took me ages to track down the source. The second extract is cited
> from "Trap's Abram.", and is so cited in another 1828 publication
> <https://archive.org/details/pocketmagazine00unkngoog/page/n145/mode/1up>. But it comes from Joseph Trapp <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Trapp>'s play, /Abra-Mulè: or Love and Empire <https://www.google.com/books/edition/Abra_mule_Or_Love_and_Empire/vhRhAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0>/ (1704; more info here <https://www.jstor.org/stable/3718129>).
>
> So, two questions, I suppose: (1) Should the attribution be adjusted
> ([Editorial] of course) to "Trapp, /Abra-Mulè"/? I take it "Abram." must
> be an abbreviation, but a bit of a puzzling one.
>
> And (2) should "The Same" (= "Ibid.") be retained as the attribution for
> the second extract?
>
> Thanks once again. D.
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David

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Any advice on how to handle double-numbered list items?

Screenshot from 2024-07-08 15-31-38.png

I could just manually add " 5." at the start of the last paragraph, which would render as "4. 5. " (rather than a comma after the 4) ... or is that too simple? Is this CSS-able?

Thanks! D.

Alex Cabal

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I don't think you can do this in a way that makes sense with <ol>. So,
just make the entire list a series of <p> instead.

On 7/8/24 9:35 AM, David wrote:
> Any advice on how to handle double-numbered list items
> <https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/98/mode/1up?view=theater>?
>
> Screenshot from 2024-07-08 15-31-38.png
>
> I could just manually add " 5." at the start of the last paragraph,
> which would render as "4. 5. " (rather than a comma after the 4) ... or
> is that too simple? Is this CSS-able?
>
> Thanks! D.
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David

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Jul 8, 2024, 12:14:21 PMJul 8
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Even easier. :) Thanks!

D.

David

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I'm getting close to submitting this for review, but struggling with the perennial problem of cover art.

The best I've come up with at this point is this portrait of a man and his daughter (CC0, Smithsonian), which could readily portray the "victim" and his heir/niece, the absolute focal point of the novel....

cover-leavenworth-fricks-360x540.jpg

...except that there are two nieces in this story. There is also a young lawyer involved; there is a library! there is a bedroom! (Sounds like a game of "Clue".) But still, this is what I've got so far.

Any reactions? Suggestions? Thanks!

David / Fife, UK

Alex Cabal

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In theory I think it's, fine but it's not just "a man and his daughter",
it's Henry Clay Frick, a pretty famous steel baron whose name is on a
lot of buildings and organizations. I would suggest someone a little
less famous, this one would be better reserved for a robber-baron/gilded
age book.

On 7/16/24 12:42 PM, David wrote:
> I'm getting close to submitting this for review, but struggling with the
> perennial problem of cover art.
>
> The best I've come up with at this point is this portrait of a man and
> his daughter
> <https://www.si.edu/object/henry-clay-and-helen-frick:npg_NPG.81.121> (CC0, Smithsonian), which could readily portray the "victim" and his *heir*/niece, the absolute focal point of the novel....
>
> cover-leavenworth-fricks-360x540.jpg
>
> ...except that there are /two/ nieces in this story. There is also a
> young lawyer involved; there is a library! there is a bedroom! (Sounds
> like a game of "Clue".) But still, this is what I've got so far.
>
> Any reactions? Suggestions? Thanks!
>
> David / Fife, UK
>
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David

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Ah, so like Carnegie ... okay - I've submitted it to the artworks db, but will continue my search. (Horatio Leavenworth shares some of those Frick characteristics, but there will be something more suitable out there. I live in hope!) If only there was a CC0 painting of a 19th C Smith & Wesson....

D.

David

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I'm not having much joy in my cover search. However, material to the case is the victim's desk which has on it (among other things) papers and a decanter of wine for his nightly tipple. This still life (Birmingham, CC0) gives us some essentials, even if the title block obscures much of the papers:

cover-leavenworth-still_life-360x540.jpg

Acceptable? or should I keep searching? Thanks!

D.

Alex Cabal

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Looks good, I'll add it to the DB

On 7/18/24 4:21 AM, David wrote:
> I'm not having much joy in my cover search. However, material to the
> case is the victim's desk which has on it (among other things) papers
> and a decanter of wine for his nightly tipple. This still life
> (Birmingham, CC0)
> <https://dams.birminghammuseums.org.uk/asset-bank/action/viewAsset?id=7312> gives us some essentials, even if the title block obscures much of the papers:
>
> cover-leavenworth-still_life-360x540.jpg
>
> Acceptable? or should I keep searching? Thanks!
>
> D.
>
> On Wednesday 17 July 2024 at 15:56:30 UTC+1 David wrote:
>
> Ah, so like Carnegie ... okay - I've submitted it to the artworks db
> <https://standardebooks.org/artworks/edmund-charles-tarbell/henry-clay-and-helen-frick>, but will continue my search. (Horatio Leavenworth shares some of those Frick characteristics, but there will be something more suitable out there. I live in hope!) If only there was a CC0 painting of a 19th C Smith & Wesson....
>
> D.
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David

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Jul 18, 2024, 1:01:21 PMJul 18
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Thanks, Alex - we'll go with that artwork then!

And a (final!) metadata question as I attempt to wrap this up. This is one of the "Haycraft-Queen Cornerstones" set; it is also the first of a baker's dozen of novels featuring the detective Mr. Ebenezer Gryce (apparently the first of the "series" detectives). Wikipedia numbers them as "Mr. Gryce." But like several others (Sherlock Holmes, Arsene Lupin,  etc.) a full name (Ebenezer Gryce) makes better sense. I'm not sure if there's a "canonical" form. Advice?

D.

Alex Cabal

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It's just whatever is the more well-known name. "Mr. Holmes" might not
be an obvious choice for a Holmes series because we know him as
"Sherlock Holmes". But we know "Poirot" simply as "Poirot" and not
"Hercule Poirot", and perhaps we know this character as "Mr. Gryce" (I
don't know.)

On 7/18/24 12:01 PM, David wrote:
> Thanks, Alex - we'll go with that artwork then!
>
> And a (final!) metadata question as I attempt to wrap this up. This is
> one of the "Haycraft-Queen Cornerstones
> <https://standardebooks.org/collections/haycraft-queen-cornerstones>"
> set; it is also the first of a baker's dozen of novels featuring the
> detective Mr. Ebenezer Gryce
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Katharine_Green#Selected_works>
> (apparently the first of the "series" detectives). Wikipedia numbers
> them as "Mr. Gryce." But like several others (Sherlock Holmes, Arsene
> Lupin,  etc.) a full name (Ebenezer Gryce) makes better sense. I'm not
> sure if there's a "canonical" form. Advice?
>
> D.
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David

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Okay - this is ready for review, at least as ready as I can make it. Some alerts:
  • c22 has a broken letter presented twice, once with lines, once with spaces; some "lint ignore" rules relate to this, but how I've managed the spacing will need some scrutiny;
  •  c32/122 `LeRoy Robbins` / twice previously named as "Le Roy"; I've retained as-is, since a different narrator at this point, but could be normalized in an [ED] commit.
  • c34/152 has `<b>` and `<em>` elements, though I'm not sure I've got those right: an attempt to match scans -> https://archive.org/details/leavenworthcase00greerich/page/344/mode/1up
  • this was my first time making SE production SVGs. Of the three, two are fine (I think), but `upper-floor.svg` completely foxed me, and it still isn't displaying correctly for me. Sorry about that!
Thanks for all your help on this one, Alex!

D.

Alex Cabal

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OK, looks pretty good, I opened an issue on Github for you to review.

On 7/19/24 4:42 AM, David wrote:
> Okay - this is ready for review
> <https://github.com/dajare/anna-katharine-green_the-leavenworth-case>,
> at least as ready as I can make it. Some alerts:
>
> * c22 has a broken letter presented twice, once with lines, once with
> spaces; some "lint ignore" rules relate to this, but how I've
> managed the spacing will need some scrutiny;
> *  c32/122 `LeRoy Robbins` / twice previously named as "Le Roy"; I've
> retained as-is, since a different narrator at this point, but could
> be normalized in an [ED] commit.
> * c34/152 has `<b>` and `<em>` elements, though I'm not sure I've got
> * this was my first time making SE production SVGs. Of the three, two
> are fine (I think), but `upper-floor.svg` completely foxed me, and
> it still isn't displaying correctly for me. Sorry about that!
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> Thanks for all your help on this one, Alex!
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> D.
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Okay, Alex - I've addressed those as well as I can, with comments under the issue. Do let me know if there's more tidying to be done!

Thanks - D.

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Alright, looks very good David, I've released it. Thanks!
> <https://github.com/dajare/anna-katharine-green_the-leavenworth-case>>
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