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Jon Erdman
Oct 10, 2025, 1:31:15 PMOct 10
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I was wondering if this would be acceptable for me to produce? It's not on the wanted list and neither was my last production - I'm just not sure whether that's too much deviation from the wanted list or if it's OK. The book is a humorous epistolary novel presented as a series of letters written by fictional baseball player Jack Keefe.
The author, Ring Lardner, was cited as an inspiration by the likes of F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway so while he's certainly not a household name, he was influential to some authors who are.
The linked scan is the 1925 edition, which includes a preface. The Gutenberg transcription is based on the first edition and does not include the preface. When I've done productions in the past, I know that I was told we'd prefer to use the latest available version of the text that is PD. The preface is short and also somewhat humorous, so I think it would be worth taking the time to transcribe and include.
I will wait until I've read the book to decide on artwork. Over the last week or so I've tracked down and added some baseball paintings to the gallery just in case I need one, but it seems like this book will have plenty of other scenes that lend themselves well as cover inspiration and we may be able to save the rare baseball artwork for books that truly have no other reasonable options.
Jon Erdman
Oct 10, 2025, 1:40:15 PMOct 10
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One thing I forgot to mention: The narrator of this book is, by design, a poor writer and nearly illiterate. There will likely be several instances where typical SEMoS rules (or indeed, basic English grammatical rules) need to be broken and ignored by the linter to faithfully preserve the author's intention. I wanted to mention this in case it impacts the decision as to whether or not you want to allow it.
Weijia Cheng
Oct 10, 2025, 2:49:12 PMOct 10
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Just an FYI the collections policy is here: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/collections-policy
Alex will officially approve the project, but in practice we take almost any novel over 40k words unless it is a really bad translation of a foreign language work.
Anthony J. Bentley
Oct 10, 2025, 5:03:13 PMOct 10
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You Know Me Al is a collection of the first six Keefe/Al stories. Wikipedia says there are 26 stories total, all of which were published in the Saturday Evening Post and only some of which were later published in collections (1–6 in You Know Me Al, 13–15 in Treat ’Em Rough, 16–21 in The Real Dope). All are PD (final stories published in 1919).
So I think SE policy would be to produce a single omnibus of all 26 stories, unless there are published collections covering the rest that I didn’t mention above.
So I think SE policy would be to produce a single omnibus of all 26 stories, unless there are published collections covering the rest that I didn’t mention above.
Alex Cabal
Oct 10, 2025, 5:43:01 PMOct 10
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Agreed. If you want to work on an omnibus, then the first step is
filling out a spreadsheet so we can track all of the works we might
include: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/spreadsheets
Once a spreadsheet is ready, then we can look at the next steps.
On 10/10/25 4:03 PM, 'Anthony J. Bentley' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> You Know Me Al is a collection of the first six Keefe/Al stories.
> Wikipedia says there are 26 stories total, all of which were published
> in the Saturday Evening Post and only some of which were later published
> in collections (1–6 in You Know Me Al, 13–15 in Treat ’Em Rough, 16–21
> in The Real Dope). All are PD (final stories published in 1919).
>
> So I think SE policy would be to produce a single omnibus of all 26
> stories, unless there are published collections covering the rest that I
> didn’t mention above.
>
>
> On October 10, 2025 11:31:14 AM MDT, Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if this would be acceptable for me to produce? It's
> not on the wanted list and neither was my last production - I'm just
> not sure whether that's too much deviation from the wanted list or
> if it's OK. The book is a humorous epistolary novel presented as a
> series of letters written by fictional baseball player Jack Keefe.
>
> The author, Ring Lardner, was cited as an inspiration by the likes
> of F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway so while he's certainly
> not a household name, he was influential to some authors who are.
>
> Gutenberg <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52670>
> IA Scans <https://archive.org/details/youknowmeal00lard/page/n7/
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filling out a spreadsheet so we can track all of the works we might
include: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/spreadsheets
Once a spreadsheet is ready, then we can look at the next steps.
On 10/10/25 4:03 PM, 'Anthony J. Bentley' via Standard Ebooks wrote:
> You Know Me Al is a collection of the first six Keefe/Al stories.
> Wikipedia says there are 26 stories total, all of which were published
> in the Saturday Evening Post and only some of which were later published
> in collections (1–6 in You Know Me Al, 13–15 in Treat ’Em Rough, 16–21
> in The Real Dope). All are PD (final stories published in 1919).
>
> So I think SE policy would be to produce a single omnibus of all 26
> stories, unless there are published collections covering the rest that I
> didn’t mention above.
>
>
> On October 10, 2025 11:31:14 AM MDT, Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if this would be acceptable for me to produce? It's
> not on the wanted list and neither was my last production - I'm just
> not sure whether that's too much deviation from the wanted list or
> if it's OK. The book is a humorous epistolary novel presented as a
> series of letters written by fictional baseball player Jack Keefe.
>
> The author, Ring Lardner, was cited as an inspiration by the likes
> of F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway so while he's certainly
> not a household name, he was influential to some authors who are.
>
> IA Scans <https://archive.org/details/youknowmeal00lard/page/n7/
> mode/2up>
>
> The linked scan is the 1925 edition, which includes a preface. The
> Gutenberg transcription is based on the first edition and does not
> include the preface. When I've done productions in the past, I know
> that I was told we'd prefer to use the latest available version of
> the text that is PD. The preface is short and also somewhat
> humorous, so I think it would be worth taking the time to transcribe
> and include.
>
> I will wait until I've read the book to decide on artwork. Over the
> last week or so I've tracked down and added some baseball paintings
> to the gallery just in case I need one, but it seems like this book
> will have plenty of other scenes that lend themselves well as cover
> inspiration and we may be able to save the rare baseball artwork for
> books that truly have no other reasonable options.
>
> --
> The linked scan is the 1925 edition, which includes a preface. The
> Gutenberg transcription is based on the first edition and does not
> include the preface. When I've done productions in the past, I know
> that I was told we'd prefer to use the latest available version of
> the text that is PD. The preface is short and also somewhat
> humorous, so I think it would be worth taking the time to transcribe
> and include.
>
> I will wait until I've read the book to decide on artwork. Over the
> last week or so I've tracked down and added some baseball paintings
> to the gallery just in case I need one, but it seems like this book
> will have plenty of other scenes that lend themselves well as cover
> inspiration and we may be able to save the rare baseball artwork for
> books that truly have no other reasonable options.
>
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Jon Erdman
Oct 10, 2025, 7:12:35 PMOct 10
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Sure, I have compiled a spreadsheet with the information that I was able to track down.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qigsrbPPYFE2Fm5ZDF0CZ4Gr5Svz0sQijexnrcPId_4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
I was able to locate scans from the Saturday Evening Post for every story. It's obviously an incredibly well-documented magazine. There are also scans on archive.org of all three published compilations, though I didn't link them here (I can if that's the direction we'd rather go)
While all three that made it to publication as compilation books are on gutenberg, a quick cursory search didn't turn up any transcriptions for the ones that hadn't been published in book form. It seems that the Saturday Evening Post does allow access to these stories with a paid subscription that isn't terribly expensive, but I don't know if they are text-based transcriptions or just scans (which wouldn't be any better than what's already free on archive.org) and I'm not sure I want to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out that it's just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The OCR text file from the archive.org scans MIGHT be a workable starting point, but given Jack Keefe's character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is intentionally bad.
Vince
Oct 10, 2025, 7:28:57 PMOct 10
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While all three that made it to publication as compilation books are on gutenberg, a quick cursory search didn't turn up any transcriptions for the ones that hadn't been published in book form. It seems that the Saturday Evening Post does allow access to these stories with a paid subscription that isn't terribly expensive, but I don't know if they are text-based transcriptions or just scans (which wouldn't be any better than what's already free on archive.org) and I'm not sure I want to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out that it's just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The OCR text file from the archive.org scans MIGHT be a workable starting point, but given Jack Keefe's character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is intentionally bad.
If the scans are relatively clean, the IA text is usually a decent starting point; the part that might not work is doing an aspell or equivalent on the story at the end, due to the vernacular. A careful side-by-side proofread of those stories, with the scans on one side and the epub text on the other, would be required, but I’ve found that to be true of all self-transcriptions.
Or, since they’re shorts, typing them from the scans is an option, but that introduces its own set of errors, which would still have to be caught by the same very careful proofread.
Jon Erdman
Oct 10, 2025, 8:12:27 PMOct 10
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The scans are actually remarkably clean so that's probably possible.
I think this would be a rather lengthy project, but it is divided into extremely digestible chunks since it's a series of letters, so while it would take a long time, it wouldn't be difficult to feel productive. The OCR is also fairly good, likely just needing small bits of cleanup. Probably doable without losing my sanity if I take it slow and focus on a letter or two at a time.
Alex Cabal
Oct 10, 2025, 10:33:50 PMOct 10
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OK great, I've copied it here and given you access:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Please edit this new spreadsheet from now on.
So I think the thing to do is to create a Jack Keefe Stories omnibus.
Are they all obviously short stories, i.e. less than 20-ish pages? If
any are very long then get the word count to make sure it doesn't need
to be its own ebook.
Send a link to your repo to get started and we'll assign you a manager
and reviewer.
On 10/10/25 7:12 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> The scans are actually remarkably clean so that's probably possible.
>
> I think this would be a rather lengthy project, but it is divided into
> extremely digestible chunks since it's a series of letters, so while it
> would take a long time, it wouldn't be difficult to feel productive. The
> OCR is also fairly good, likely just needing small bits of cleanup.
> Probably doable without losing my sanity if I take it slow and focus on
> a letter or two at a time.
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 7:28:57 PM UTC-4 Vince wrote:
>
>> While all three that made it to publication as compilation books
>> are on gutenberg, a quick cursory search didn't turn up any
>> transcriptions for the ones that hadn't been published in book
>> form. It seems that the Saturday Evening Post does allow access to
>> these stories with a paid subscription that isn't terribly
>> expensive, but I don't know if they are text-based transcriptions
>> or just scans (which wouldn't be any better than what's already
>> free on archive.org <http://archive.org/>) and I'm not sure I want
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Please edit this new spreadsheet from now on.
So I think the thing to do is to create a Jack Keefe Stories omnibus.
Are they all obviously short stories, i.e. less than 20-ish pages? If
any are very long then get the word count to make sure it doesn't need
to be its own ebook.
Send a link to your repo to get started and we'll assign you a manager
and reviewer.
On 10/10/25 7:12 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> The scans are actually remarkably clean so that's probably possible.
>
> I think this would be a rather lengthy project, but it is divided into
> extremely digestible chunks since it's a series of letters, so while it
> would take a long time, it wouldn't be difficult to feel productive. The
> OCR is also fairly good, likely just needing small bits of cleanup.
> Probably doable without losing my sanity if I take it slow and focus on
> a letter or two at a time.
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 7:28:57 PM UTC-4 Vince wrote:
>
>> While all three that made it to publication as compilation books
>> are on gutenberg, a quick cursory search didn't turn up any
>> transcriptions for the ones that hadn't been published in book
>> form. It seems that the Saturday Evening Post does allow access to
>> these stories with a paid subscription that isn't terribly
>> expensive, but I don't know if they are text-based transcriptions
>> or just scans (which wouldn't be any better than what's already
>> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out that it's
>> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The
>> OCR text file from the archive.org <http://archive.org/> scans
>> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The
>> MIGHT be a workable starting point, but given Jack Keefe's
>> character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going
>> to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is
>> intentionally bad.
>
> If the scans are relatively clean, the IA text is usually a decent
> starting point; the part that might not work is doing an aspell or
> equivalent on the story at the end, due to the vernacular. A careful
> side-by-side proofread of those stories, with the scans on one side
> and the epub text on the other, would be required, but I’ve found
> that to be true of all self-transcriptions.
>
> Or, since they’re shorts, typing them from the scans is an option,
> but that introduces its own set of errors, which would still have to
> be caught by the same very careful proofread.
>
>> character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going
>> to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is
>> intentionally bad.
>
> If the scans are relatively clean, the IA text is usually a decent
> starting point; the part that might not work is doing an aspell or
> equivalent on the story at the end, due to the vernacular. A careful
> side-by-side proofread of those stories, with the scans on one side
> and the epub text on the other, would be required, but I’ve found
> that to be true of all self-transcriptions.
>
> Or, since they’re shorts, typing them from the scans is an option,
> but that introduces its own set of errors, which would still have to
> be caught by the same very careful proofread.
>
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Jon Erdman
Oct 10, 2025, 11:33:04 PMOct 10
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I found some scans on Hathitrust that have remarkably good-looking OCR. I was going to paste these into a Google Doc per story for the stories that aren't on gutenberg. Should I set these Google docs to public and link them in the spreadsheet?
If nothing else, this should be a quick way to know what the approximate word counts are for the stories that were never published outside of the Post.
Alex Cabal
Oct 10, 2025, 11:35:18 PMOct 10
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Links to page scans should go in the spreadsheet. If you're doing your
own transcription then leave the transcription column blank.
On 10/10/25 10:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> I found some scans on Hathitrust that have remarkably good-looking OCR.
> I was going to paste these into a Google Doc per story for the stories
> that aren't on gutenberg. Should I set these Google docs to public and
> link them in the spreadsheet?
>
> If nothing else, this should be a quick way to know what the approximate
> word counts are for the stories that were never published outside of the
> Post.
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 10:33:50 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK great, I've copied it here and given you access:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0>
> >> free on archive.org <http://archive.org> <http://archive.org/
> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>> scans
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own transcription then leave the transcription column blank.
On 10/10/25 10:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> I found some scans on Hathitrust that have remarkably good-looking OCR.
> I was going to paste these into a Google Doc per story for the stories
> that aren't on gutenberg. Should I set these Google docs to public and
> link them in the spreadsheet?
>
> If nothing else, this should be a quick way to know what the approximate
> word counts are for the stories that were never published outside of the
> Post.
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 10:33:50 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK great, I've copied it here and given you access:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
> d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0>
> <http://archive.org/>>) and I'm not sure I want
> >> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out that it's
> >> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The
> >> OCR text file from the archive.org <http://archive.org> <http://
> >> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out that it's
> >> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe use. The
> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>> scans
> >> MIGHT be a workable starting point, but given Jack Keefe's
> >> character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going
> >> to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is
> >> intentionally bad.
> >
> > If the scans are relatively clean, the IA text is usually a decent
> > starting point; the part that might not work is doing an aspell or
> > equivalent on the story at the end, due to the vernacular. A careful
> > side-by-side proofread of those stories, with the scans on one side
> > and the epub text on the other, would be required, but I’ve found
> > that to be true of all self-transcriptions.
> >
> > Or, since they’re shorts, typing them from the scans is an option,
> > but that introduces its own set of errors, which would still have to
> > be caught by the same very careful proofread.
> >
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> >> character being nearly illiterate and unable to spell, it's going
> >> to be a doozy of a job to figure out what is OCR error and what is
> >> intentionally bad.
> >
> > If the scans are relatively clean, the IA text is usually a decent
> > starting point; the part that might not work is doing an aspell or
> > equivalent on the story at the end, due to the vernacular. A careful
> > side-by-side proofread of those stories, with the scans on one side
> > and the epub text on the other, would be required, but I’ve found
> > that to be true of all self-transcriptions.
> >
> > Or, since they’re shorts, typing them from the scans is an option,
> > but that introduces its own set of errors, which would still have to
> > be caught by the same very careful proofread.
> >
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Jon Erdman
Oct 11, 2025, 9:34:11 AMOct 11
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Set up a repo with an empty ebook skeleton for now. Will do more work in the repo once I have transcriptions of everything.
Alex Cabal
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OK, Lukas will manage this with Weijia reviewing.
On 10/11/25 8:34 AM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> Set up a repo with an empty ebook skeleton for now. Will do more work in
> the repo once I have transcriptions of everything.
> https://github.com/homestar92/ring-lardner_jack-keefe-stories
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 11:35:18 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Links to page scans should go in the spreadsheet. If you're doing your
> own transcription then leave the transcription column blank.
>
> On 10/10/25 10:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> > I found some scans on Hathitrust that have remarkably good-
> looking OCR.
> > I was going to paste these into a Google Doc per story for the
> stories
> > that aren't on gutenberg. Should I set these Google docs to
> public and
> > link them in the spreadsheet?
> >
> > If nothing else, this should be a quick way to know what the
> approximate
> > word counts are for the stories that were never published outside
> of the
> > Post.
> >
> > On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 10:33:50 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK great, I've copied it here and given you access:
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>
> > d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
> > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>
> <http://archive.org <http://archive.org>> <http://
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On 10/11/25 8:34 AM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> Set up a repo with an empty ebook skeleton for now. Will do more work in
> the repo once I have transcriptions of everything.
> https://github.com/homestar92/ring-lardner_jack-keefe-stories
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 11:35:18 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Links to page scans should go in the spreadsheet. If you're doing your
> own transcription then leave the transcription column blank.
>
> On 10/10/25 10:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> > I found some scans on Hathitrust that have remarkably good-
> looking OCR.
> > I was going to paste these into a Google Doc per story for the
> stories
> > that aren't on gutenberg. Should I set these Google docs to
> public and
> > link them in the spreadsheet?
> >
> > If nothing else, this should be a quick way to know what the
> approximate
> > word counts are for the stories that were never published outside
> of the
> > Post.
> >
> > On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 10:33:50 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK great, I've copied it here and given you access:
> spreadsheets/>
> > d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
> > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <https://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>
> > archive.org/ <http://archive.org/> <http://archive.org/ <http://
> msgid/>>
> > > standardebooks/c86c149b-1429-4513-82d1-
> > decb80d5048fn%40googlegroups.com <http://40googlegroups.com>
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Weijia Cheng
Oct 11, 2025, 12:32:11 PMOct 11
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Ok, sounds good.
Jon Erdman
Oct 12, 2025, 8:53:28 AMOct 12
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I made some transcriptions from the scans with OCR. I'm sure I need to take a second pass to confirm everything is good, but they should at least be good enough to get accurate word counts. I have filled in all the word count. They're all in the short story range, so none of them would need to be separated out.
Question about the omnibus here - short story collections typically don't have their contents numbered, but since there is an intended reading order, might it be something we should do in this case? The first six stories were numbered when they were released in a compilation together.
Jon Erdman
Oct 12, 2025, 2:11:02 PMOct 12
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I noticed in the list of active projects that this one is named incorrectly:
It should be "Jack Keefe Stories"
Alex Cabal
Oct 12, 2025, 2:44:05 PMOct 12
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Thanks, fixed
On 10/12/25 1:11 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> I noticed in the list of active projects that this one is named incorrectly:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/ring-lardner/john-keefe-stories
>
> It should be "Jack Keefe Stories"
> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-4 Jon Erdman wrote:
>
> I made some transcriptions from the scans with OCR. I'm sure I need
> to take a second pass to confirm everything is good, but they should
> at least be good enough to get accurate word counts. I have filled
> in all the word count. They're all in the short story range, so none
> of them would need to be separated out.
>
> Question about the omnibus here - short story collections typically
> don't have their contents numbered, but since there is an intended
> reading order, might it be something we should do in this case? The
> first six stories were numbered when they were released in a
> compilation together.
>
> On Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-4 weij...@bu.edu wrote:
>
> Ok, sounds good.
>
> On Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 12:23:07 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, Lukas will manage this with Weijia reviewing.
>
> On 10/11/25 8:34 AM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> > Set up a repo with an empty ebook skeleton for now. Will
> do more work in
> > the repo once I have transcriptions of everything.
> > https://github.com/homestar92/ring-lardner_jack-keefe-
> stories <https://github.com/homestar92/ring-lardner_jack-
> keefe-stories>
> docs.google.com/spreadsheets/> <https://docs.google.com/
> <https://docs.google.com/>
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> gid=0#gid=0
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On 10/12/25 1:11 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> I noticed in the list of active projects that this one is named incorrectly:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/ring-lardner/john-keefe-stories
>
> It should be "Jack Keefe Stories"
> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 8:53:28 AM UTC-4 Jon Erdman wrote:
>
> I made some transcriptions from the scans with OCR. I'm sure I need
> to take a second pass to confirm everything is good, but they should
> at least be good enough to get accurate word counts. I have filled
> in all the word count. They're all in the short story range, so none
> of them would need to be separated out.
>
> Question about the omnibus here - short story collections typically
> don't have their contents numbered, but since there is an intended
> reading order, might it be something we should do in this case? The
> first six stories were numbered when they were released in a
> compilation together.
>
> On Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-4 weij...@bu.edu wrote:
>
> Ok, sounds good.
>
> On Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 12:23:07 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, Lukas will manage this with Weijia reviewing.
>
> On 10/11/25 8:34 AM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> > Set up a repo with an empty ebook skeleton for now. Will
> do more work in
> > the repo once I have transcriptions of everything.
> > https://github.com/homestar92/ring-lardner_jack-keefe-
> keefe-stories>
> <https://docs.google.com/>
> > spreadsheets/>
> > > d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?
> gid=0#gid=0
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> docs.google.com/spreadsheets/> <https://docs.google.com/
> <https://docs.google.com/>
> > spreadsheets/>
> > > d/19jiiWZS_S8NaTQcJv_dXb4Qm4ghDJHl14B22Q6xE3H0/edit?
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> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>>>>) and I'm not sure I
> > want
> > > >> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find
> out that
> > it's
> > > >> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could
> maybe use. The
> > > >> OCR text file from the archive.org <http://
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> > > >> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find
> out that
> > it's
> > > >> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could
> maybe use. The
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No, you don't have to number them. If the stories are in some special
order then you can simply order them that way in the book and make a
note in the production notes of why they're ordered that way and not by
publication date.
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order then you can simply order them that way in the book and make a
note in the production notes of why they're ordered that way and not by
publication date.
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> > want
> > > >> to pay for the subscription only to potentially find out
> that
> > it's
> > > >> just a PDF and not a transcription that we could maybe
> use. The
> > > >> OCR text file from the archive.org <http://archive.org>
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> that
> > it's
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> use. The
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Regarding the order, there's no need to number anything. The reading order comes from the spine in content.opf. The default order is alphabetical, but you can rearrange it however you like.
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Jon Erdman
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The natural reading order is the publication order so that's the order they'd be either way. I just wasn't sure whether or not they need to be numbered like a sequence.
I have one syntax question before I get started. I know that in a "normal" book, letter contents would go in blockquotes. In this book, there is *no* content external to the letters, so I presume it would not make sense to blockquote them. In the other epistolary novels I was able to find in the corpus, the chapters were each comprised of a single letter, so the z3998:letter semantication went on the <section> block. In this case, each story is a series of letters one after the other. Given all that information, how do I structure this for semantication purposes? Wrap each letter in a <span epub:type="z3998:letter">? Or is there some other element that would be better than a span?
Lukas Bystricky
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I would treat all the letters as individual blockquotes and semanticate them as normal but you can remove the indentation with CSS.
For the numbers you can use your judgement. There's no structural reason why they have to be numbered but if you think the numbers are necessary for some other reason you can keep or add them.
For the numbers you can use your judgement. There's no structural reason why they have to be numbered but if you think the numbers are necessary for some other reason you can keep or add them.
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Jon Erdman
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One more question - hopefully the last for a while.
Every letter has a header with a dateline. These were not stylized consistently - specifically, sometimes the location in the dateline would be in small-caps, sometimes it would be in normal capitalization. Should I make these consistent across the whole collection, or should I match what was done for each story on a case-by-case basis.
Every letter has a header with a dateline. These were not stylized consistently - specifically, sometimes the location in the dateline would be in small-caps, sometimes it would be in normal capitalization. Should I make these consistent across the whole collection, or should I match what was done for each story on a case-by-case basis.
I should mention that sometimes two printings of the same story would disagree - For the first six stories, the Saturday Evening Post serialized version used small caps, but the You Know Me Al book does not. Since the 1925 edition of You Know Me Al is the most recent glimpse we have into the author's intentions with the formatting, and it does not use the small-caps, I'm leaning towards not using them in my datelines (which is also consistent with the boilerplate SE dateline CSS)
Anthony J. Bentley
Oct 12, 2025, 6:46:12 PMOct 12
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For what it’s worth, Wikipedia calls these the “Busher” stories (“busher” being a baseball term; You Know Me Al had the subtitle “A Busher’s Letters”).
Jon Erdman
Oct 12, 2025, 6:59:24 PMOct 12
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It's not hard to rename a repo. If the SE editing team prefers that name, I can certainly rename the repo and update my metadata.
For my two cents, calling it "Busher Stories" is compelling because it is more immediately identifiable by people who have only a passing knowledge of the series, and it communicates at a glance to potential readers that the stories are baseball-adjacent. But if we want to stick with Jack Keefe Stories, that's fine by me too.
Vince Rice
Oct 12, 2025, 8:33:24 PMOct 12
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I have no input at all into what it should be called, but the “Busher Stories” absolutely does not tell me it’s baseball adjacent. :)
On Oct 12, 2025, at 5:59 PM, Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not hard to rename a repo. If the SE editing team prefers that name, I can certainly rename the repo and update my metadata.
Alex Cabal
Oct 12, 2025, 8:54:36 PMOct 12
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I think the title we're currently using is fine
On 10/12/25 7:33 PM, Vince Rice wrote:
> I have no input at all into what it should be called, but the “Busher
> Stories” absolutely does not tell /me/ it’s baseball adjacent. :)
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> I have no input at all into what it should be called, but the “Busher
>
>> On Oct 12, 2025, at 5:59 PM, Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not hard to rename a repo. If the SE editing team prefers that
>> name, I can certainly rename the repo and update my metadata.
>>
>> For my two cents, calling it "Busher Stories" is compelling because it
>> is more immediately identifiable by people who have only a passing
>> knowledge of the series, and it communicates at a glance to potential
>> readers that the stories are baseball-adjacent. But if we want to
>> stick with Jack Keefe Stories, that's fine by me too.
>
>> On Oct 12, 2025, at 5:59 PM, Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not hard to rename a repo. If the SE editing team prefers that
>> name, I can certainly rename the repo and update my metadata.
>>
>> For my two cents, calling it "Busher Stories" is compelling because it
>> is more immediately identifiable by people who have only a passing
>> knowledge of the series, and it communicates at a glance to potential
>> readers that the stories are baseball-adjacent. But if we want to
>> stick with Jack Keefe Stories, that's fine by me too.
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On 10/12/25 5:28 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> Every letter has a header with a dateline. These were not stylized
> consistently - specifically, sometimes the location in the dateline
> would be in small-caps, sometimes it would be in normal capitalization.
> Should I make these consistent across the whole collection, or should I
> match what was done for each story on a case-by-case basis.
>
You can make them consistent.
> Every letter has a header with a dateline. These were not stylized
> consistently - specifically, sometimes the location in the dateline
> would be in small-caps, sometimes it would be in normal capitalization.
> Should I make these consistent across the whole collection, or should I
> match what was done for each story on a case-by-case basis.
>
Jon Erdman
Oct 13, 2025, 10:52:45 AMOct 13
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One thing I'm getting stuck on is how to handle the modernize-spelling script for this one.
The content of this book are letters written by someone who is practically illiterate and can't spell or read very well. I worry that modernizing spelling could, in many cases, actually be meaningfully changing the content in a way the author didn't intend.
I'm open to whatever editorial decision you want to make, but my two cents is that the best approach here is to look at the ngrams for every potential change and operate under the guideline that if it was correct when the story was written, then modernize it so that it's correct now. But if it was likely to be an intentional misspelling when the story was written, then it's probably supposed to be a misspelled.
Examples that I've run into so far:
cafes-> cafés - I don't think I should modernize this one. A writer who barely has a grasp on the English language isn't going to put a diacritic over the e.
cafes-> cafés - I don't think I should modernize this one. A writer who barely has a grasp on the English language isn't going to put a diacritic over the e.
inclosed -> enclosed - I think I should modernize this one. ngrams shows that "inclosed" was still in reasonably wide use in US English in 1914, so it was probably a correct spelling at the time and should be modernized to be correct now
expence -> expense - ngrams shows that "expence" was almost completely out of use in US English by 1914, so this feels like an intentional mis-spelling and I'm leaning towards not modernizing it.
Maybe it doesn't even matter since two whole short stories have revealed only these few examples, and maybe the "voice" of the speaker doesn't really change enough to matter even if we do update them. Just not sure what the right approach is for a book where it's not always clear whether a spelling was archaic or intentionally wrong. The stories do get a little heavier on the misspellings later on as the author found his style, so it's also possible that these first two stories are not representative and future ones will have a lot more of these debatable examples.
Is the approach of using ngrams to figure out if it was meant to be correct at the time of writing reasonable, or is there some other direction we'd like to go in this admittedly unusual book, given its writing style? I think a lot of what modernize-spelling does is still very much appropriate as I think that things like "to-day -> today" are still the right call even with the writing style of the book.
Lukas Bystricky
Oct 13, 2025, 3:31:48 PMOct 13
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I think you're right that we don't want to modernize something if it's a deliberate choice on the part of the author. Figuring out exactly what was intentional is a tricky business though as you've discovered. I think your approach sounds reasonable, but if it becomes too much work you can make more editorial calls without verifying everything with n-grams. There's no real foolproof way to do this, short of asking the author who I presume is not returning calls. Being consistent is probably the most important thing.
Are you comfortable with looking at diffs with git? You've probably figured this out already, but I would suggest you run modernize-spelling first, see what it changes, and then discard whatever you think shouldn't be changed.
Jon Erdman
Oct 13, 2025, 3:52:20 PMOct 13
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I'm definitely familiar with doing diffs in git. It's a core part of my day job. Running the script and manually discarding the things that seem to be intentionally wrong is actually what I've already been doing. The vast majority of the changes still seem pretty clearly correct to modernize, so the script still has a lot of value here.
I will keep on as I have been, modernizing whatever appears to clearly have been correct in its day and not modernizing things that seem likely to be a deliberate misspelling. If I run across something that's unclear, I'll err on the conservative side and not update it.
The good news is that the nature of these stories is that nobody's going to give even a moment's thought to it if they see an unusual spelling for a word, which is another reason I think the right call in this case is to err on the conservative side if intentions are at all unclear. Even if it "should" be modernized, readers won't find it jarring that it's not.
I will keep on as I have been, modernizing whatever appears to clearly have been correct in its day and not modernizing things that seem likely to be a deliberate misspelling. If I run across something that's unclear, I'll err on the conservative side and not update it.
The good news is that the nature of these stories is that nobody's going to give even a moment's thought to it if they see an unusual spelling for a word, which is another reason I think the right call in this case is to err on the conservative side if intentions are at all unclear. Even if it "should" be modernized, readers won't find it jarring that it's not.
Jon Erdman
Oct 14, 2025, 10:22:22 AM (13 days ago) Oct 14
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One of the things that I'm checking to try to preserve author's intentions while also abiding by the standard SEMoS rules is checking to see if the whole set of stories is consistent with itself. If it isn't consistent, then I think it's reasonable to assume that was done on purpose. If it is, then I think the case to modernize and conform with SEMoS is much stronger. For example, in these stories, we always, without exception, see "O.K." used, with periods. So I will correct that to "OK" as we do since it's not an initialism. Likewise, we always, without exception, see "US" or "USA" instead of "U.S." or "U.S.A.". Since it's consistent across the entire set of stories, I think it's the right call to present it as an initialism with periods as required by SEMoS. I do think that in the case of this book, however, these commits should probably be marked as editorial when they might not be for a more normal book.
So between checking ngrams and checking for consistency, I think there's enough info to go off of to make a reasonable assumption at which things are part of the speaker's "voice" and which were just written as they were because it's how people were writing in 1914. So that's my solution - modernize unless I feel very strongly that I shouldn't and can justify the choice, and apply the [Editorial] tag a little more liberally than I usually would.
Lukas Bystricky
Oct 14, 2025, 11:05:47 AM (13 days ago) Oct 14
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I think that sounds reasonable. Like I said there's no perfect way to do this, but you're clearly putting thought into it which is the best we can ask for.
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Jon Erdman
Oct 14, 2025, 11:25:18 PM (13 days ago) Oct 14
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There are many sections of poetry within the prose of these stories. Obviously these are blockquoted. In the original scans, they were set in italics as seen in the attachment.
Is it necessary to replicate this styling? A past production of mine (Wild Animals I Have Known) had a short story within a chapter which was blockquoted and was italicized in the scans, but it was decided not to italicize it since the block quote already visually set it apart. Since the entire poem will be visually set apart by the block quote here too, I assume that the same logic applies and it does not need to be italicized?
Is it necessary to replicate this styling? A past production of mine (Wild Animals I Have Known) had a short story within a chapter which was blockquoted and was italicized in the scans, but it was decided not to italicize it since the block quote already visually set it apart. Since the entire poem will be visually set apart by the block quote here too, I assume that the same logic applies and it does not need to be italicized?
Lukas Bystricky
Oct 15, 2025, 4:34:14 AM (13 days ago) Oct 15
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Yes, no need to add the italics.
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Jon Erdman
Oct 15, 2025, 1:14:05 PM (12 days ago) Oct 15
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Some of the stories are presented in their original serialized Saturday Evening Post run with a subtitle, but then appear without it when later published as chapters in a book. For example, here are both versions of the first story:
Since the newest publication of the stories that got republished does not include the subtitles, I'm inclined to not include the subtitles for any of them.
Additional question: There are four stories all titled "The Busher Abroad". These were only published as a serialized run in the Post, never as a collected book. The wikipedia article refers to them as Parts 1-4, but the original run didn't actually put part numbers - it did, however, give them each a subtitle. Just curious how we want to present these ones. We could combine them all together as if they are one short story with chapters - but I don't necessarily think that's the right move. The Post didn't include part numbers, which suggests to me that the intention was for them all to be readable without necessarily reading the earlier entries.
Currently I'm including them all as "The Busher Abroad: Part I" (and so on through part IV). I think even if we include the subtitles, we have to append "Part I" through "Part IV" just so that the TOC makes sense. Thoughts?
For an example, here's how Part II of "The Busher Abroad" is presented in its original Post run:
Lukas Bystricky
Oct 15, 2025, 4:21:56 PM (12 days ago) Oct 15
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I agree that you'll want to go with whatever the latest scans did, so you can leave out the subtitles.
For the Busher Abroad, combining the stories into a single story with chapters makes the most sense to me. I think appending Part I etc to the titles is a bit verbose and it also also implies that the reader should read Part I before Part II etc so I'm not sure it's giving the desired effect anyways.
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Oct 15, 2025, 4:33:11 PM (12 days ago) Oct 15
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OK - when combined together they are *almost* novel length - about 39.8k characters. However, I REALLY don't want to separate them out into a separate ebook as it would make reading through the entire arc much more difficult. They are still, ultimately, four short stories that share a larger arc. Plus, the whole thing really is one continuous narrative arc, those are only really different from the others in that they all share a title. I assume it's fine even if we're combining them to keep them as a part of this omnibus rather than having the beginning and end of the story in one book with the middle in another?
Obviously it's not entirely my call to make, but I did want to plead my case for keeping them in the overall larger omnibus rather than having the act of combining them result in them getting split into a separate book.
Jon Erdman
Oct 15, 2025, 4:52:24 PM (12 days ago) Oct 15
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*obviously above I meant 39.8k WORDS, not characters.
Alex Cabal
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You can leave them in, they appear to be loosely related short stories
and putting them under one title doesn't change that.
On 10/15/25 3:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> OK - when combined together they are *almost* novel length - about 39.8k
> characters. However, I *REALLY *don't want to separate them out into a
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and putting them under one title doesn't change that.
On 10/15/25 3:33 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> OK - when combined together they are *almost* novel length - about 39.8k
> separate ebook as it would make reading through the entire arc much more
> difficult. They are still, ultimately, four short stories that share a
> larger arc. Plus, the whole thing really is one continuous narrative
> arc, those are only really different from the others in that they all
> share a title. I assume it's fine even if we're combining them to keep
> them as a part of this omnibus rather than having the beginning and end
> of the story in one book with the middle in another?
>
> Obviously it's not entirely my call to make, but I did want to plead my
> case for keeping them in the overall larger omnibus rather than having
> the act of combining them result in them getting split into a separate book.
>
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2025 at 4:21:56 PM UTC-4 lukasby...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> I agree that you'll want to go with whatever the latest scans did,
> so you can leave out the subtitles.
>
> For the Busher Abroad, combining the stories into a single story
> with chapters makes the most sense to me. I think appending Part I
> etc to the titles is a bit verbose and it also also implies that the
> reader should read Part I before Part II etc so I'm not sure it's
> giving the desired effect anyways.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 19:14 Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Some of the stories are presented in their original serialized
> Saturday Evening Post run with a subtitle, but then appear
> without it when later published as chapters in a book. For
> example, here are both versions of the first story:
> Screenshot 2025-10-15 130043.pngScreenshot 2025-10-15 130307.png
> difficult. They are still, ultimately, four short stories that share a
> larger arc. Plus, the whole thing really is one continuous narrative
> arc, those are only really different from the others in that they all
> share a title. I assume it's fine even if we're combining them to keep
> them as a part of this omnibus rather than having the beginning and end
> of the story in one book with the middle in another?
>
> Obviously it's not entirely my call to make, but I did want to plead my
> case for keeping them in the overall larger omnibus rather than having
> the act of combining them result in them getting split into a separate book.
>
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2025 at 4:21:56 PM UTC-4 lukasby...@gmail.com
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> I agree that you'll want to go with whatever the latest scans did,
> so you can leave out the subtitles.
>
> For the Busher Abroad, combining the stories into a single story
> with chapters makes the most sense to me. I think appending Part I
> etc to the titles is a bit verbose and it also also implies that the
> reader should read Part I before Part II etc so I'm not sure it's
> giving the desired effect anyways.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 19:14 Jon Erdman <homes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Some of the stories are presented in their original serialized
> Saturday Evening Post run with a subtitle, but then appear
> without it when later published as chapters in a book. For
> example, here are both versions of the first story:
>
> Since the newest publication of the stories that got republished
> does not include the subtitles, I'm inclined to not include the
> subtitles for any of them.
>
> Additional question: There are four stories all titled "The
> Busher Abroad". These were only published as a serialized run in
> the Post, never as a collected book. The wikipedia article
> refers to them as Parts 1-4, but the original run didn't
> actually put part numbers - it did, however, give them each a
> subtitle. Just curious how we want to present these ones. We
> *could* combine them all together as if they are one short story
> Since the newest publication of the stories that got republished
> does not include the subtitles, I'm inclined to not include the
> subtitles for any of them.
>
> Additional question: There are four stories all titled "The
> Busher Abroad". These were only published as a serialized run in
> the Post, never as a collected book. The wikipedia article
> refers to them as Parts 1-4, but the original run didn't
> actually put part numbers - it did, however, give them each a
> subtitle. Just curious how we want to present these ones. We
> with chapters - but I don't necessarily think that's the right
> move. The Post didn't include part numbers, which suggests to
> me that the intention was for them all to be readable without
> necessarily reading the earlier entries.
>
> Currently I'm including them all as "The Busher Abroad: Part
> I" (and so on through part IV). I think even if we include the
> subtitles, we have to append "Part I" through "Part IV" just so
> that the TOC makes sense. Thoughts?
>
> For an example, here's how Part II of "The Busher Abroad" is
> presented in its original Post run:
> move. The Post didn't include part numbers, which suggests to
> me that the intention was for them all to be readable without
> necessarily reading the earlier entries.
>
> Currently I'm including them all as "The Busher Abroad: Part
> I" (and so on through part IV). I think even if we include the
> subtitles, we have to append "Part I" through "Part IV" just so
> that the TOC makes sense. Thoughts?
>
> For an example, here's how Part II of "The Busher Abroad" is
> presented in its original Post run:
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Do you think we should put an <hr> between each of the letters in this book?
The argument in favor is that the scans do put some visual separation between them in the form of a blank line (for the original publishing in the Saturday Evening Post and two of the three book compilations) or a page break (in the case of the third book compilation). They do not, however, use a line or asterisks or any other indicator when the end of a letter falls on a natural page break.
The argument against is that the dateline that exists on every single letter provides sufficient context to identify one from the next, and having hundreds of <hr> elements through the book could be distracting.
Given the arguments in both directions, I don't think the answer is clear-cut so I figured I'd leave that up to you.
Lukas Bystricky
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I don't think it's necessary to have an <hr/> between the letters. As you said the dates are enough of a visual clue.
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Another formatting question:
One formatting challenge here is that there's a letter within one of the letters. There are actually many of these and *most* aren't a problem at all. But there's one that is. One of these nested "letters" is a valentine's day card, so its contents are just the header and a short poem. Since the poem has very short lines, it looks a bit odd if the header is right-aligned per SEMoS. Attached is a screenshot of the page rendered in my browser if I right-alight the headers as per SEMoS.
One formatting challenge here is that there's a letter within one of the letters. There are actually many of these and *most* aren't a problem at all. But there's one that is. One of these nested "letters" is a valentine's day card, so its contents are just the header and a short poem. Since the poem has very short lines, it looks a bit odd if the header is right-aligned per SEMoS. Attached is a screenshot of the page rendered in my browser if I right-alight the headers as per SEMoS.
Are we OK with this formatting? I should note that in the scans, the header is centered, almost as if it's being treated as the just the title of the poem rather than the header to a letter. I could treat the whole thing as if it's just a poem (currently it's a blockquoted poem inside a blockquoted letter) and that would make this one case look a bit cleaner. I know that the goal isn't necessarily to reproduce the scans exactly, but in case it helps with context, I've attached a screenshot of the scans too.
Weijia Cheng
Oct 17, 2025, 11:05:12 AM (10 days ago) Oct 17
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You can apply custom CSS for cases like that. Sometimes CSS rules in SEMOS conflict and we just have to work around it.
Jon Erdman
Oct 17, 2025, 12:27:52 PM (10 days ago) Oct 17
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OK, I definitely can work around it with custom CSS, I just wasn't sure if we wanted to make an exception to the normal standard for letter headers solely on the basis that this one looks a bit weird. Do we want to left-align this one, or match what the printed edition does and center it?
Jon Erdman
Oct 17, 2025, 12:41:57 PM (10 days ago) Oct 17
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Another question I just thought of - the 1925 Edition of "You Know Me Al" (the compilation book which includes the first six stories) has a preface by the author. I assume since we're producing this as a compilation of all 26 stories that we *don't* want this preface, right?
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You can leave it right-aligned like that. Most people will be reading on
small screens where the alignment will look fine. In any case that's the
usual styling.
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> Another formatting question:
>
> One formatting challenge here is that there's a letter within one of the
> letters. There are actually many of these and *most* aren't a problem at
> all. But there's one that is. One of these nested "letters" is a
> valentine's day card, so its contents are just the header and a short
> poem. Since the poem has very short lines, it looks a bit odd if the
> header is right-aligned per SEMoS. Attached is a screenshot of the page
> rendered in my browser if I right-alight the headers as per SEMoS.
>
> Are we OK with this formatting? I should note that in the scans, the
> header is centered, almost as if it's being treated as the just the
> title of the poem rather than the header to a letter. I could treat the
> whole thing as if it's just a poem (currently it's a blockquoted poem
> inside a blockquoted letter) and that would make this one case look a
> bit cleaner. I know that the goal isn't necessarily to reproduce the
> scans exactly, but in case it helps with context, I've attached a
> screenshot of the scans too.
> Screenshot 2025-10-17 094145.png Screenshot 2025-10-17 094442.png
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On 10/17/25 8:49 AM, Jon Erdman wrote:
> Another formatting question:
>
> One formatting challenge here is that there's a letter within one of the
> letters. There are actually many of these and *most* aren't a problem at
> all. But there's one that is. One of these nested "letters" is a
> valentine's day card, so its contents are just the header and a short
> poem. Since the poem has very short lines, it looks a bit odd if the
> header is right-aligned per SEMoS. Attached is a screenshot of the page
> rendered in my browser if I right-alight the headers as per SEMoS.
>
> Are we OK with this formatting? I should note that in the scans, the
> header is centered, almost as if it's being treated as the just the
> title of the poem rather than the header to a letter. I could treat the
> whole thing as if it's just a poem (currently it's a blockquoted poem
> inside a blockquoted letter) and that would make this one case look a
> bit cleaner. I know that the goal isn't necessarily to reproduce the
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We could include it but we need page scans with a copyright year
uploaded to Internet Archive. We can't go on just a say-so.
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There are page scans with a 1925 copyright year
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Ah OK, I misread your email. Yes you can include that preface, make sure
to include those page scans in the sources.
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As far as naming it, should I just call it "Preface", or since it was *technically* only the preface to the one compilation, should I call it "Preface to You Know Me Al"? Since it was the preface of the book that included the first 6 stories, I think both options make sense - it is essentially a preface to the entire arc so just "Preface" still works IMO.
Also, just for the benefit of anyone reading this thread later, I already know that by adding frontmatter, I will need to add a half-title page.
Also, just for the benefit of anyone reading this thread later, I already know that by adding frontmatter, I will need to add a half-title page.
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Just preface is fine
On 10/17/25 12:19 PM, Jon Erdman wrote:
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Jon Erdman
Oct 22, 2025, 2:38:22 PM (5 days ago) Oct 22
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Should I treat A.W.O.L. as an initialism or remove the dots and call it an acronym. It gets used both ways so I'm not sure there's an obvious answer.
I tried searching the corpus on github to see if there was a clear favorite and I saw one book that used it as an initialism and two that use it as an acronym, so that's not exactly definitive. The scans present it as an initialism with dots, so since there's a case for either presentation being correct, I'm leaning towards initialism as it's the answer that modifies the text the least.
Alex Cabal
Oct 22, 2025, 3:23:43 PM (5 days ago) Oct 22
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Let's call it an acronym since these days it's pronounced as a word and
not as initials.
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Jon Erdman
Oct 23, 2025, 2:39:04 PM (4 days ago) Oct 23
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Should I consider "Chi" to be an abbreviation for "Chicago"? Currently I have it semanticated as such but the more I think about it the more I think it might be more of a nickname than an abbreviation. Similar to "Philly" or "Frisco", and I certainly wouldn't consider those abbreviations. The counterpoint is that I've never seen that used as a nickname outside of these stories. "Chi-town" yes, "Chi" no.
Alex Cabal
Oct 23, 2025, 2:42:08 PM (4 days ago) Oct 23
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I would say no
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Jon Erdman
Oct 24, 2025, 11:02:12 AM (3 days ago) Oct 24
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So, Jack Keefe's main arc is obviously his baseball career. But he also fights in World War 1 in a subset of these stories.
I found an old cover of baseball magazine that I'd really like to use for my cover if it's acceptable. It's a bit "commercial" but it is an oil, as were most of the covers from this magazine in this era. It's from the November 1918 issue and was painted by Benton H. Clark. I couldn't find the raw painting anywhere without the logos and text (and actually, the way these were usually painted, the logos probably are actually part of the original painting anyway)
PD proof:
The main focus was going to be the player holding the bat, and I can crop carefully to avoid needing any photoshop work to remove text, though if we're OK with a bit of photoshop to remove the word "Magazine" and the uploader's watermark, I could start with a slightly higher source resolution. The version I'm using for my PD proof has slightly different color rendering but is about the same resolution Would this be OK to use if I crop it in such a way that the player with the bat is the focus and there are no visible wordmarks? I was thinking this as my proposed crop:
I can try to adjust the color grading if that's a problem at all. I've found that for these old magazine scans, just editing the color temperature a little more to the cool side tends to yield very good results.
Jon Erdman
Oct 24, 2025, 11:06:20 AM (3 days ago) Oct 24
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*ignore the part about the version I'm using for the PD proof having better color rendering and about the uploader's watermark. I had found a different copy first, but it was much too low resolution, so the PD proof scan *is* what I'm using here as my source.
Jon Erdman
Oct 24, 2025, 8:45:16 PM (3 days ago) Oct 24
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I did a bit of color correction and honed in the crop a little bit. Here's the mockup of what the cover would look like if I used the artwork linked above. If approved, I can go ahead and submit the source image and my PD proof to the artwork gallery.
Lukas Bystricky
Oct 25, 2025, 2:22:17 AM (3 days ago) Oct 25
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I think it looks good. I've added it to the DB and assigned it.
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