Continental Op stories ?
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tnp
Oct 20, 2025, 7:40:40 PM (7 days ago) Oct 20
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Are there any plans for Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op stories for next year? (The final two were published in 1930, says https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett)
I'm wondering if such a large project could be shared, and what to do in the absence of scans from Black Mask.
I'm wondering if such a large project could be shared, and what to do in the absence of scans from Black Mask.
Alex Cabal
Oct 20, 2025, 8:37:34 PM (7 days ago) Oct 20
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I considered doing this last year but it would be a very complicated and
long production. There are a lot of stories and they're quite long. They
have been edited since initial publication so we would have to confirm
that the copies we're using are of the original print editions.
Fortunately Library of America's "Crime Stories & Other Writings"
collected the original print editions. So if you can find scans or a
physical copy of that book you can compare against those.
Typically we don't share projects, it's too complicated to coordinate.
You would have to do it entirely on your own.
On 10/20/25 6:40 PM, tnp wrote:
> Are there any plans for Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op stories for
> next year? (The final two were published in 1930, says https://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <https://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett>)
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long production. There are a lot of stories and they're quite long. They
have been edited since initial publication so we would have to confirm
that the copies we're using are of the original print editions.
Fortunately Library of America's "Crime Stories & Other Writings"
collected the original print editions. So if you can find scans or a
physical copy of that book you can compare against those.
Typically we don't share projects, it's too complicated to coordinate.
You would have to do it entirely on your own.
On 10/20/25 6:40 PM, tnp wrote:
> Are there any plans for Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op stories for
> next year? (The final two were published in 1930, says https://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett>)
> I'm wondering if such a large project could be shared, and what to do in
> the absence of scans from Black Mask.
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tnp
Oct 21, 2025, 7:52:31 PM (6 days ago) Oct 21
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Have you considered publishing the stories in several parts, maybe then combining them when all are published? I might be up for working on 1923 (the first five), or even the first ten.
The LoA volume is missing a few of the stories. It looks like Black Mask has recently reprinted the first 21.
The LoA volume is missing a few of the stories. It looks like Black Mask has recently reprinted the first 21.
Alex Cabal
Oct 21, 2025, 11:04:35 PM (6 days ago) Oct 21
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No, it's actually easier to do them all at once. Doing them separately
makes it hard/impossible to merge a git history together, and there is
no single editorial oversight to the style.
On 10/21/25 6:52 PM, tnp wrote:
> Have you considered publishing the stories in several parts, maybe then
> combining them when all are published? I might be up for working on 1923
> (the first five), or even the first ten.
>
> The LoA volume is missing a few of the stories. It looks like Black Mask
> has recently reprinted the first 21.
> On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 5:37:34 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> I considered doing this last year but it would be a very complicated
> and
> long production. There are a lot of stories and they're quite long.
> They
> have been edited since initial publication so we would have to confirm
> that the copies we're using are of the original print editions.
>
> Fortunately Library of America's "Crime Stories & Other Writings"
> collected the original print editions. So if you can find scans or a
> physical copy of that book you can compare against those.
>
> Typically we don't share projects, it's too complicated to coordinate.
> You would have to do it entirely on your own.
>
> On 10/20/25 6:40 PM, tnp wrote:
> > Are there any plans for Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op stories
> for
> > next year? (The final two were published in 1930, says https://
> > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett> <https://
> > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> > standardebooks/e261e73c-2417-43c4-9b8c-
> aab0e9e218e6n%40googlegroups.com <http://40googlegroups.com>
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makes it hard/impossible to merge a git history together, and there is
no single editorial oversight to the style.
On 10/21/25 6:52 PM, tnp wrote:
> Have you considered publishing the stories in several parts, maybe then
> combining them when all are published? I might be up for working on 1923
> (the first five), or even the first ten.
>
> The LoA volume is missing a few of the stories. It looks like Black Mask
> has recently reprinted the first 21.
> On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 5:37:34 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> I considered doing this last year but it would be a very complicated
> and
> long production. There are a lot of stories and they're quite long.
> They
> have been edited since initial publication so we would have to confirm
> that the copies we're using are of the original print editions.
>
> Fortunately Library of America's "Crime Stories & Other Writings"
> collected the original print editions. So if you can find scans or a
> physical copy of that book you can compare against those.
>
> Typically we don't share projects, it's too complicated to coordinate.
> You would have to do it entirely on your own.
>
> On 10/20/25 6:40 PM, tnp wrote:
> > Are there any plans for Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op stories
> for
> > next year? (The final two were published in 1930, says https://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett> <https://
> > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett>>)
> > I'm wondering if such a large project could be shared, and what
> to do in
> > the absence of scans from Black Mask.
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tnp
Oct 22, 2025, 4:04:25 PM (5 days ago) Oct 22
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OK, I'll forget about that one.
So how about The Glass Key for 2027? Do you already have plans? Is it too soon to work on it?
Do such pre-public-domain projects proceed in the same way except with private Github repo?
So how about The Glass Key for 2027? Do you already have plans? Is it too soon to work on it?
Do such pre-public-domain projects proceed in the same way except with private Github repo?
Alex Cabal
Oct 22, 2025, 4:50:21 PM (5 days ago) Oct 22
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Do you mean 2026? Glass Key was serialized in 1930 but novelized in 1931
which means it was probably edited for the novelization. So, we would
wait for the novelization to be PD before working on it. (Unless you can
show that the novelization was just a straight compilation of the Black
Mask serials.)
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which means it was probably edited for the novelization. So, we would
wait for the novelization to be PD before working on it. (Unless you can
show that the novelization was just a straight compilation of the Black
Mask serials.)
> > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett>> <https://
> > > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
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> > > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> > en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett <http://
> en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Samuel_Dashiell_Hammett>>>)
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tnp
Oct 23, 2025, 1:43:45 PM (4 days ago) Oct 23
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I did mean for release in 2027, and therefore asked about the process for pre-public-domain projects. I have no more questions so no need to respond.
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