[Next Project] THE PRIVATE MEMOIRS AND CONFESSIONS OF A JUSTIFIED SINNER // Hogg

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John Rambow

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Oct 2, 2022, 4:30:01 PM10/2/22
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For my next book, I'd like to do this novel, which is on the "wanted" list. 

John Rambow

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Alex Cabal

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OK! Please send a link to your repo once you get started.
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Alex Cabal

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This one is on our list twice, because it's both in the Telegraph's
Greatest Villains collection, and the BBC 2015 collection.

On 10/2/22 3:48 PM, John Rambow wrote:

John Rambow

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Oct 4, 2022, 9:36:59 AM10/4/22
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Great -- here's the link. 



One early question: do we want to include the single illustration, which is a "fac-simile" page of the (fictional) memoir that follows the editor's introduction? The edition I listed above doesn't appear to have the illustration, but a couple others do. The only reason I am leading toward putting it in is that the book itself refers to the facsimile near the end: 

<p>The printed part [i.e., the intro--JR] ends at page 201 and the rest is in a fine old hand, extremely small and close. I have ordered the printer to procure a facsimile of it, to be bound in with the volume. </p>

On the other hand, the text in the facsimile is in the book itself... 

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Alex Cabal

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Oct 4, 2022, 11:19:16 AM10/4/22
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Yes, we can include that. Make sure to find the highest res version you
can to keep in ./images/, then scale it down for ./src/epub/images/.

David, can you manage this with Emma reviewing?

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> Great -- here's the link.
>
> https://github.com/johnrambow/james-hogg_the-private-memoirs-and-confessions-of-a-justified-sinner
> <https://github.com/johnrambow/james-hogg_the-private-memoirs-and-confessions-of-a-justified-sinner>
>
>
> One early question: do we want to include the single illustration, which
> is a "fac-simile" page of the (fictional) memoir that follows the
> editor's introduction? The edition I listed above doesn't appear to have
> the illustration, but a couple others do. The only reason I am leading
> toward putting it in is that the book itself refers to the facsimile
> near the end:
>
> <p>The printed part [i.e., the intro--JR] ends at page 201 and the rest
> is in a fine old hand, extremely small and close. I have ordered the
> printer to procure a facsimile of it, to be bound in with the volume. </p>
>
> On the other hand, the text in the facsimile is in the book itself...
>
> https://archive.org/details/privatememoirsco00hoggrich/page/n5/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/privatememoirsco00hoggrich/page/n5/mode/2up>
> image.png
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> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 5:35 PM Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
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> OK! Please send a link to your repo once you get started.
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> On 10/2/22 3:48 PM, John Rambow wrote:
> > ... and here are the links:
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> > Transcription
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> > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2276
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> > <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2276
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2276>>
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> > Scans:
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> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3865738&view=1up&seq=9&skin=2021
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> <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3865738&view=1up&seq=9&skin=2021
> <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3865738&view=1up&seq=9&skin=2021>>
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> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 4:29 PM John Rambow <ram...@gmail.com
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> > <mailto:ram...@gmail.com <mailto:ram...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
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David Grigg

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OK, with my usual caveat to John than because of the difference in time zones it can take me up to 24 hours to repond to questions, so please be patient.
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Emma Sweeney

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Oct 5, 2022, 12:35:01 AM10/5/22
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Sure.

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John Rambow

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Dec 4, 2022, 1:22:41 PM12/4/22
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I'm turning back to this, and am uncertain how to structure the book's two chapters: an "editor's narrative" and then the actual memoirs of the sinner. No actual front matter. 

Each chapter begins with a faux half-title page -- the idea being you are finally reading the memoir once you reach its 2nd half title. 

Here's the order:
THE PRIVATE MEMOIRS AND CONFESSIONS OF A JUSTIFIED SINNER
"The Editor's Narrative" half-title
Editor's Narrative, c. 100 pages
"Private Memoirs and Confession of a Sinner" half-title. (Some editions have The Private Memoirs and Confessions ... as the half-title instead.) 
Private Memoirs and Confession of a Sinner, Written by Himself c. 200 pages -- note that the chapter title is not the same as the book title

Should I treat the Narrative like a prologue, much like The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket? Or not overthink it and have two chapters, with no half titles?

Here's a link to a scan, with the Contents. (This edition's introduction is not worth keeping, and isn't original.)


And here's the start of the "Memoirs" 






Alex Cabal

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Sounds like it's just in two parts. You can use the typical structure of
a book divided into "books" or "divisions". If the preface is fictional
then take inspiration from Pym in the semantics.

On 12/4/22 12:22 PM, John Rambow wrote:
> I'm turning back to this, and am uncertain how to structure the book's
> two chapters: an "editor's narrative" and then the actual memoirs of the
> sinner. No actual front matter.
>
> Each chapter begins with a faux half-title page -- the idea being you
> are finally reading the memoir once you reach its 2nd half title.
>
> Here's the order:
> THE PRIVATE MEMOIRS AND CONFESSIONS OF A JUSTIFIED SINNER
> "The Editor's Narrative" half-title
> Editor's Narrative, c. 100 pages
> "Private Memoirs and Confession of a Sinner" half-title. (Some editions
> have The Private Memoirs and Confessions ... as the half-title instead.)
> Private Memoirs and Confession of a Sinner, Written by Himself c. 200
> pages -- note that the chapter title is not the same as the book title
>
> Should I treat the Narrative like a prologue, much like The Narrative of
> Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket? Or not overthink it and have two
> chapters, with no half titles?
>
> Here's a link to a scan, with the Contents. (This edition's introduction
> is not worth keeping, and isn't original.)
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover>
>
> And here's the start of the "Memoirs"
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover>
>
>
>
>
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> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 12:35 AM Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com
> <mailto:sween...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Sure.
>
> Emma
> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-4 david...@gmail.com
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John Rambow

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Here's a possible image for this novel, which is set in the 17th century. (It's about a highly pious Scotsman who is tempted into murdering a minister and several relatives by a shape-shifting devil.)



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Alex Cabal

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That works, thanks!

On 12/26/22 11:34 AM, John Rambow wrote:
> Here's a possible image for this novel, which is set in the 17th
> century. (It's about a highly pious Scotsman who is tempted into
> murdering a minister and several relatives by a shape-shifting devil.)
>
> PD proof: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-4254-3
> <https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-A-4254-3>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover>>
> >
> > And here's the start of the "Memoirs"
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Private_Memoirs_and_Confessions_of_a/K6z6_Qpj99MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover>>
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> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 12:35 AM Emma Sweeney
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> > <mailto:sween...@gmail.com <mailto:sween...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
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> >     Sure.
> >
> >     Emma
> >     On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-4
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> >     <mailto:david...@gmail.com <mailto:david...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> >         OK, with my usual caveat to John than because of the
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I’ll get started on reviewing. It'll take me a few days.

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Great work! I filed some minor issues in your repository.

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The changes look good. Alex, this is ready for you.

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Great work John!

For the future, if you work on SVGs we prefer them rotated so that they
fit naturally (we are not constrained by a page size like physical books
are) and they should have a transparent background, not white. I've
changed all that for you.

I've gone ahead and released the book. Thanks!

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> https://github.com/johnrambow/james-hogg_the-private-memoirs-and-confessions-of-a-justified-sinner <https://github.com/johnrambow/james-hogg_the-private-memoirs-and-confessions-of-a-justified-sinner>
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