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Alex

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Sep 14, 2025, 8:33:21 PMSep 14

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Hello, for my next project I'd like to work on this collection I previously proposed in this thread. I'm using a new account, so for reference I previously worked on Demian by Herman Hesse.

In summary, I want to make a single Robert Frost poetry omnibus with all his work published before 1930. The bulk of the content would be Frost's five main collections published before that year:

- A Boy's Will (1913) (scans) (PG)
- North of Boston (1914) (scans) (PG) (SE)
- Mountain Interval (1916) (scans) (PG)
- New Hampshire (1923) (scans) (PG) (SE)
- West Running Brook (1928) (scans) (FP)

Each collection (as they were originally released) would be a section/chapter of omnibus. An additional section would contain all uncollected poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the sake of simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are in the public domain but were included in later collections will not be included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once the entire collection enters the public domain.

I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this spreadsheet, based on the book Robert Frost Among His Poems. Most of the ones released before 1930 have a scan link attached to them. Of the ones that do not, four are from Frost's "first" poetry collection Twilight and likely can't be included in this omnibus (see the note attached to them), and three are from A Boy's Will, which are only included due to a technicality (see the note). For the rest I haven't found scans yet, so I'll list them here in case someone is able to find them online:

- "Slipshod Rhymes" (published in The Pinkerton Critic, December 1909)

- "A Kitchen in School, or, Goings On at a Staid Old New Hampshire Academy"
(published in The Pinkerton Critic, May 1910)

- "Good Relief" (published in Come Christmas, 1929)

I'll likely be able to obtain a scan of the last one in the near future, but the first two don't seem to exist anywhere. The poem "Class Hymn" also doesn't have a scan attached, but that's only because I haven't uploaded it yet (will take care of it probably tomorrow).

Additionally, six uncollected/unreleased poems were added to Frost's 1930 omnibus collection Collected Poems. Four of these had been previously published, and two of them were previously unreleased. The first four can be included in this omnibus, and I've collected scans for them:

- "Locked Out (As Told to a Child)" (1917) (link)
- "The Same Leaves" (1926) (link)
- "The Walker" (1928) (link, later renamed "The Egg and the Machine")
- "The Lovely Shall be Choosers" (1929) (link)

Do note that the scan for "Locked Out" is not exactly official, so a better one is likely needed. If one can't be found, this poem can be omitted for now and be added next year using scans of Collected Poems.

Side Note: I've moved the spreadsheets/scans from my previous account to this one, so the spreadsheet links in my previous post will likely stop working in the future.

(Also, you can call me Sasha or Alexander to avoid confusion)

Alex Cabal

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Sep 15, 2025, 4:31:30 PMSep 15

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Good research Alex, thanks.

What does AHS stand for?

My question is whether we want to keep the volume divisions of the 5
volumes we'll be including.

In favor is that the volumes contain internal subdivisions that would be
interesting to keep. However, those subdivisions clearly didn't matter
much to Frost himself because he excluded them in his own Complete Poems
(1949), even though he kept the overall volume divisions; and many of
the poems within have been anthologized many different ways, including
in that same Complete Poems where the epigraph to North of Boston is
moved to the front of the entire collection.

However the typical SE omnibus simply includes all the poems we can find
in order of publication, without volume subdivisions.

If we included the volume divisions, then that begs the question of
whether a complete poems omnibus even makes sense - why not do the
volumes individually, and do an "uncollected" poems omnibus instead?

Anyone have opinions?

On 9/14/25 1:28 AM, Alex wrote:
> Hello, for my next project I'd like to work on this collection I

> previously proposed in this <https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/
> c/FHhmBKi0iSY/m/MAAE4JWABgAJ> thread. I'm using a new account, so for
> reference I previously worked on /Demian/ by Herman Hesse.

>
> In summary, I want to make a single Robert Frost poetry omnibus with all
> his work published before 1930. The bulk of the content would be Frost's
> five main collections published before that year:
>

> - /A Boy's Will/ (1913) (scans <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/
> Record/000433785>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3021>)
> - /North of Boston/ (1914) (scans <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/
> Record/000433793>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3026>) (SE
> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/north-of-boston>)
> - /Mountain Interval/ (1916) (scans <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/
> Record/001028566>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/29345>)
> - /New Hampshire/ (1923) (scans <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/
> Record/000433611>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/58611>) (SE
> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/new-hampshire>)
> - /West Running Brook/ (1928) (scans <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/
> Record/000431902>) (FP <https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?
> pid=20141056>)

>
> Each collection (as they were originally released) would be a section/
> chapter of omnibus. An additional section would contain all uncollected
> poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the sake of
> simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are in the
> public domain but were included in later collections will not be
> included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once the entire
> collection enters the public domain.
>

> I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this <https://
> docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/10YndlKkmU3LKGboOMwcPu676Q4FqzZYu174taKiDTgA/edit?usp=drive_link>
> spreadsheet, based on the book /Robert Frost Among His Poems/. Most of

> the ones released before 1930 have a scan link attached to them. Of the

> ones that do not, four are from Frost's "first" poetry collection /
> Twilight/ and likely can't be included in this omnibus (see the note
> attached to them), and three are from /A Boy's Will, /which are only

> included due to a technicality (see the note). For the rest I haven't
> found scans yet, so I'll list them here in case someone is able to find
> them online:
>
> - "Slipshod Rhymes" (published in The Pinkerton Critic, December 1909)
> - "A Kitchen in School, or, Goings On at a Staid Old New Hampshire Academy"
> (published in The Pinkerton Critic, May 1910)

> - "Good Relief" (published in /Come Christmas, /1929)

>
> I'll likely be able to obtain a scan of the last one in the near future,
> but the first two don't seem to exist anywhere. The poem "Class Hymn"
> also doesn't have a scan attached, but that's only because I haven't
> uploaded it yet (will take care of it probably tomorrow).
>
> Additionally, six uncollected/unreleased poems were added to Frost's

> 1930 omnibus collection /Collected Poems. /Four of these had been

> previously published, and two of them were previously unreleased. The
> first four can be included in this omnibus, and I've collected scans for
> them:
>

> - "Locked Out (As Told to a Child)" (1917) (link <https://
> www.biblio.com/book/locked-out-forge-number-two-frost/d/527685060>)
> - "The Same Leaves" (1926) (link <https://hdl.handle.net/2027/
> mdp.39015069757287?urlappend=%3Bseq=374%3Bownerid=13510798900888071-336>)
> - "The Walker" (1928) (link <https://archive.org/details/
> secondamericanca029966mbp/page/70/mode/2up>, later renamed "The Egg and
> the Machine")
> - "The Lovely Shall be Choosers" (1929) (link <https://
> hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b4110177?
> urlappend=%3Bseq=60%3Bownerid=9007199271773507-64>)

>
> Do note that the scan for "Locked Out" is not exactly official, so a
> better one is likely needed. If one can't be found, this poem can be

> omitted for now and be added next year using scans of /Collected Poems./
> /
> /

> Side Note: I've moved the spreadsheets/scans from my previous account to
> this one, so the spreadsheet links in my previous post will likely stop
> working in the future.
>
> (Also, you can call me Sasha or Alexander to avoid confusion)
>

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Vince

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Sep 15, 2025, 4:50:44 PMSep 15

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Not a strong opinion (I’m not much of a poetry person, even if it is Robert Frost), but as you point out, our standard is that if there are duplicated and/or uncollected works, we do an omnibus in publication order. I don’t see any compelling reason to make an exception here. We could have easily done the below (either kept them in volume order, or released the individual volumes and “uncollected”) without almost any of our existing omnibuses.

Emma Sweeney

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Sep 15, 2025, 4:58:48 PMSep 15

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I'm in favor of having them all in a single collection file in chronological order. Like Alex said, this is the standard for all other poetry collections. The different volumes can be mentioned in the long description.

Emma

Alex

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Hi everyone, thanks for all the feedback. I'll share some of the reasons why I wanted to keep the collections as section in the omnibus (FYI, AHS is shorthand for the book Robert Frost Among His Poems found here):

- Precedent: While it is true that Frost didn't necessarily keep the content of each collection consistent across different releases, the actual divisions have been kept around for most (if not all) modern collections of Frost's poetry. The main ones today are The Poetry of Robert Frost (1979) and the Library of America collection from 1995. Both of these follow the format of Complete Poems (1949) maintaining the individual collection divisions. The ones that didn't follow this, like Selected Poems (1923), often were smaller mix-and-match recompilations rather than complete collections. Additionally, a lot of the more academic work around Frost's poems I've come across also follow the the 1949 collection format, like the book I used to collect information for the unreleased/uncollected poems (AHS).

- Structure: From these first five collections, the poems New Hampshire and West Running Brook were divided into different sections each. Honestly, I'm not sure how much these actually mattered to Frost since they were dropped for Collected Poems (1930) and later releases with the same name, but at least for some of his later work like A Further Range, A Witness Tree, and Steeple Bush he did maintain the subdivisions for each collection when collected. I think it'd be good to keep these subdivisions if there was some intended meaning grouping together certain poems.

- Convenience: Not necessarily the best reason, but on my end keeping the poems within their respective collections lowers the amount of poems I need to keep track of for release order. I previously prepared this spreadsheet here that kept track of Frost's poems that were individually released in magazines/books (and honestly almost dropped this project due to how dull it was to transcribe). However, the book I used for this information was a fairly old bibliography on Frost from 1937 and there are definitely a few poems that are missing or incorrect in that sheet. I would need to remake the sheet using AHS (or a Frost encyclopedia I own) and go over every single poem in all collections to separate those released in magazines and those released as part of the collection. I would also probably need to double check this information since I've found a couple of errors at least in the uncollected poems section (granted minor, like the incorrect page or date listed for where to find a particular poem). A big amount of work for me, unfortunately.

- Sorting: This is partially related to the last point. A majority of Frost's poems were released for the first time in his book collections rather than published independently in a magazine. This trend increased in later years where most poems were exclusively released in collections rather than magazines. This has probably come up before, but I found it a bit awkward to have poems published at specific dates in order and then have a huge chunk of poems from a single collection either alphabetically or somewhat following the order they were originally arranged as with gaps in the middle.

- Historical Relevance: This is another point that also shouldn't necessarily weigh in much for this discussion, but I'll include it for reference. The 1930 edition of Collected Poems is the second book that Frost received a Pulitzer prize for (the first one being for New Hampshire). This collection, if we kept the subdivisions, would more-or-less imitate the format of this release (at least for around six years until we can add A Further Range to the collection).

But of course, I leave the final decision up to project leadership. It would probably take me a while to put together a new documents with all independently-released poems, so if that's what's decided I won't be able to start working on this collection for a while.

Best,

Alex (Sasha)

Alex Cabal

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Sep 18, 2025, 3:39:57 PMSep 18

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OK. I've thought about it a little, and let's include the volume
divisions, as well as their subdivisions.

Most of our poetry omnibuses are of poets who did sometimes publish
volumes but without interesting subdivisions. We also have James Joyce's
poetry omnibus which did keep the volume subdivisions, because one of
the volumes had the poems numbered in a specific order, and because both
volumes were extremely short.

I think the argument for how previous scholarly editions did it also
weighs a lot. Most/all kept the divisions, so we can too.

As always, if we change our mind later on it's not a big deal to go in
and remove the divisions.

We should arrange them in by date published, so the volumes will likely
have some uncollected poems sandwiched inbetween.

Since we already have North of Boston and New Hampshire, you can just
ingest those ebooks wholesale. Once this omnibus is released we'll
remove them from the corpus. You could also reuse that cover art of New
Hampshire if you want. (North of Boston's cover art PD proof was lost
when we transitioned to the artwork DB so I would prefer not to re-use it.)

On 9/15/25 10:46 PM, Alex wrote:
> Hi everyone, thanks for all the feedback. I'll share some of the reasons

> why I wanted to keep the collections as section in the omnibus (FYI, /
> AHS/ is shorthand for the book /Robert Frost Among His Poems/ found here
> <https://archive.org/details/robertfrostamong0000cram>):

>
> - Precedent: While it is true that Frost didn't necessarily keep the
> content of each collection consistent across different releases, the
> actual divisions have been kept around for most (if not all) modern

> collections of Frost's poetry. The main ones today are /The Poetry of
> Robert Frost (1979)/ and the Library of America collection from 1995.
> Both of these follow the format of /Complete Poems (1949)/ maintaining

> the individual collection divisions. The ones that didn't follow this,

> like /Selected Poems (1923),/ often were smaller mix-and-match

> recompilations rather than complete collections. Additionally, a lot of
> the more academic work around Frost's poems I've come across also follow
> the the 1949 collection format, like the book I used to collect

> information for the unreleased/uncollected poems /(AHS)./
> /
> /
> - Structure: From these first five collections, the poems /New
> Hampshire/ and /West Running Brook/ were divided into different sections

> each. Honestly, I'm not sure how much these actually mattered to Frost

> since they were dropped for /Collected Poems (1930)/ and later releases
> with the same name, but at least for some of his later work like /A
> Further Range, A Witness Tree, /and /Steeple Bush /he did maintain the

> subdivisions for each collection when collected. I think it'd be good to
> keep these subdivisions if there was some intended meaning grouping
> together certain poems.
>
> - Convenience: Not necessarily the best reason, but on my end keeping
> the poems within their respective collections lowers the amount of poems
> I need to keep track of for release order. I previously prepared this

> spreadsheet here <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/1JeHkWIAgTwpZYZ97-CyTzjCqIU1_YUgnXezTrdDchio/edit?usp=drive_link> that

> kept track of Frost's poems that were individually released in
> magazines/books (and honestly almost dropped this project due to how
> dull it was to transcribe). However, the book I used for this
> information was a fairly old bibliography on Frost from 1937 and there
> are definitely a few poems that are missing or incorrect in that sheet.

> I would need to remake the sheet using /AHS/ (or a Frost encyclopedia I

> own) and go over every single poem in all collections to separate those
> released in magazines and those released as part of the collection. I
> would also probably need to double check this information since I've
> found a couple of errors at least in the uncollected poems section
> (granted minor, like the incorrect page or date listed for where to find
> a particular poem). A big amount of work for me, unfortunately.
>

> /-/ Sorting: This is partially related to the last point. A majority of

> Frost's poems were released for the first time in his book collections
> rather than published independently in a magazine. This trend increased
> in later years where most poems were exclusively released in collections
> rather than magazines. This has probably come up before, but I found it
> a bit awkward to have poems published at specific dates in order and
> then have a huge chunk of poems from a single collection either
> alphabetically or somewhat following the order they were originally
> arranged as with gaps in the middle.
>
> - Historical Relevance: This is another point that also shouldn't
> necessarily weigh in much for this discussion, but I'll include it for

> reference. The 1930 edition of /Collected Poems/ is the second book that
> Frost received a Pulitzer prize for (the first one being for /New
> Hampshire/). This collection, if we kept the subdivisions, would more-

> or-less imitate the format of this release (at least for around six

> years until we can add /A Further Range/ to the collection).

>
> But of course, I leave the final decision up to project leadership. It
> would probably take me a while to put together a new documents with all
> independently-released poems, so if that's what's decided I won't be
> able to start working on this collection for a while.
>
> Best,
> Alex (Sasha)
> On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 1:58:48 PM UTC-7 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> I'm in favor of having them all in a single collection file

> <https://standardebooks.org/contribute/how-tos/how-to-structure-and-
> style-large-poetic-productions#a-single-collections-file> in

> standardebooks/ <https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/>

> > c/FHhmBKi0iSY/m/MAAE4JWABgAJ> thread. I'm using a new
> account, so for
> > reference I previously worked on /Demian/ by Herman Hesse.
> >
> > In summary, I want to make a single Robert Frost poetry
> omnibus with all
> > his work published before 1930. The bulk of the content would
> be Frost's
> > five main collections published before that year:
> >
> > - /A Boy's Will/ (1913) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000433785>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3021
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3021>>)
> > - /North of Boston/ (1914) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000433793>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3026
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3026>>) (SE
> > <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/north-of-

> boston <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/north-of-

> boston>>)
> > - /Mountain Interval/ (1916) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/001028566>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/29345
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/29345>>)
> > - /New Hampshire/ (1923) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000433611>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/58611
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/58611>>) (SE
> > <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/new-hampshire
> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/new-hampshire>>)
> > - /West Running Brook/ (1928) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000431902>) (FP <https://www.fadedpage.com/

> showbook.php <https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php>?

> > pid=20141056>)
> >
> > Each collection (as they were originally released) would be a
> section/
> > chapter of omnibus. An additional section would contain all
> uncollected
> > poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the sake of
> > simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are
> in the
> > public domain but were included in later collections will not be
> > included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once
> the entire
> > collection enters the public domain.
> >
> > I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this
> <https://

> > docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <http://docs.google.com/
> spreadsheets/>
> > d/10YndlKkmU3LKGboOMwcPu676Q4FqzZYu174taKiDTgA/edit?

> d/527685060 <http://www.biblio.com/book/locked-out-forge-number-

> two-frost/d/527685060>>)
> > - "The Same Leaves" (1926) (link <https://

> hdl.handle.net/2027/ <https://hdl.handle.net/2027/>
> > mdp.39015069757287?

> urlappend=%3Bseq=374%3Bownerid=13510798900888071-336>)
> > - "The Walker" (1928) (link <https://archive.org/details/
> <https://archive.org/details/>
> > secondamericanca029966mbp/page/70/mode/2up>, later renamed
> "The Egg and
> > the Machine")
> > - "The Lovely Shall be Choosers" (1929) (link <https://

> > hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b4110177 <http://hdl.handle.net/2027/
> uc1.b4110177>?

> > urlappend=%3Bseq=60%3Bownerid=9007199271773507-64>)
> >
> > Do note that the scan for "Locked Out" is not exactly
> official, so a
> > better one is likely needed. If one can't be found, this poem
> can be
> > omitted for now and be added next year using scans of /
> Collected Poems./
> > /
> > /
> > Side Note: I've moved the spreadsheets/scans from my previous
> account to
> > this one, so the spreadsheet links in my previous post will
> likely stop
> > working in the future.
> >
> > (Also, you can call me Sasha or Alexander to avoid confusion)
> >
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Alex Cabal

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Please send a link to your repo once we get started.

Additionally, please make sure your spreadsheet contains his entire
published work even if it's not PD. That will be useful in future years
when we go back to add newly-PD poems to the existing omnibus.

Also, we will not include Twilight, because as you noted it would
probably not be considered "published" as far as copyright is concerned.

On 9/15/25 10:46 PM, Alex wrote:

> Hi everyone, thanks for all the feedback. I'll share some of the reasons

> - Precedent: While it is true that Frost didn't necessarily keep the
> content of each collection consistent across different releases, the
> actual divisions have been kept around for most (if not all) modern

> collections of Frost's poetry. The main ones today are /The Poetry of

> Robert Frost (1979)/ and the Library of America collection from 1995.
> Both of these follow the format of /Complete Poems (1949)/ maintaining

> the individual collection divisions. The ones that didn't follow this,

> like /Selected Poems (1923),/ often were smaller mix-and-match

> information for the unreleased/uncollected poems /(AHS)./
> /
> /
> - Structure: From these first five collections, the poems /New

> Hampshire/ and /West Running Brook/ were divided into different sections

> each. Honestly, I'm not sure how much these actually mattered to Frost

> spreadsheet here <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/1JeHkWIAgTwpZYZ97-CyTzjCqIU1_YUgnXezTrdDchio/edit?usp=drive_link> that

> I would need to remake the sheet using /AHS/ (or a Frost encyclopedia I

> /-/ Sorting: This is partially related to the last point. A majority of

> or-less imitate the format of this release (at least for around six

> years until we can add /A Further Range/ to the collection).

> <https://standardebooks.org/contribute/how-tos/how-to-structure-and-
> style-large-poetic-productions#a-single-collections-file> in

> standardebooks/ <https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/>

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000433785>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3021
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3021>>)
> > - /North of Boston/ (1914) (scans <https://

> catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>

> > Record/000433793>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3026
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/3026>>) (SE

> > <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/robert-frost/north-of-
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Alex

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Thanks for the approval Alex! This is the repo I'll be working on: https://github.com/SashaPrawn/robert-frost_poetry.

For the in-between poems, do we want to put them within sections like "Uncollected: 19-- to 19--", or just standalone? I think standalone might look odd in the TOC since they'll be at the same hierarchy level as the other sections, though it might depend on how e-readers/apps style it.

I''ll begin working on editing the individual collections first, and tackle uncollected last (since I'll be transcribing those directly from scans).

Alex Cabal

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OK, Emma will manage this with David reviewing.

Uncollected poems don't need to be in a section, they will just be
ordered directly in the book flow.

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> <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>>

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> <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>>

> > > Record/001028566>) (PG <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/29345
> <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/29345>

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> > > - /New Hampshire/ (1923) (scans <https://

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> <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/ <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/>>

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> > > pid=20141056>)
> > >
> > > Each collection (as they were originally released) would be a
> > section/
> > > chapter of omnibus. An additional section would contain all
> > uncollected
> > > poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the sake of
> > > simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are
> > in the
> > > public domain but were included in later collections will not be
> > > included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once
> > the entire
> > > collection enters the public domain.
> > >
> > > I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this
> > <https://
> > > docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <http://docs.google.com/

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> <http://www.biblio.com/book/locked-out-forge-number->
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> > > - "The Same Leaves" (1926) (link <https://

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> > > mdp.39015069757287?
> > urlappend=%3Bseq=374%3Bownerid=13510798900888071-336>)
> > > - "The Walker" (1928) (link <https://archive.org/details/
> <https://archive.org/details/>
> > <https://archive.org/details/ <https://archive.org/details/>>
> > > secondamericanca029966mbp/page/70/mode/2up>, later renamed
> > "The Egg and
> > > the Machine")
> > > - "The Lovely Shall be Choosers" (1929) (link <https://
> > > hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b4110177 <http://hdl.handle.net/2027/

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Alex, I just want us all on the same page. Is this all going in a single poetry.xhtml file formatted like:

...

</article>

...
</article>
<article id=UNCOLLECTED-POEM" epub:type="z3998:poem">

...
</article>

...

...

</article>

...
</article>

...
</body>

or is each volume its own file and uncollected poems in `poetry-#.xhtml` files?

This is much more complicated than other poetry collections...

Emma

Alex Cabal

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Yes, like that I think will be fine.

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> > > > poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the sake of
> > > > simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are
> > > in the
> > > > public domain but were included in later collections will not be
> > > > included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once
> > > the entire
> > > > collection enters the public domain.
> > > >
> > > > I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this
> > > <https://
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Alex Cabal

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Alex, I've updated your spreadsheet to our new template format and added
you as an editor:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSavxQc9oYROihMphpvkCXTpuqBuReUIhIxX3ruWLgI/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Please work on this spreadsheet from now on, not your copy.

I've added the poems from North of Boston and New Hampshire.

Can you please add the rest of his poems that are in collections to this
spreadsheet as well?

We also want to find first publication dates for his poems that were
listed as unpublished in your sheet, even if they're far in the future.

We want to get his entire poem corpus into this sheet. Then, we'll use
it to continue updating our omnibus as more of his work enters the
public domain.

Thanks!

On 9/22/25 7:27 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:

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Alex

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Hi Alex, thanks for porting my spreadsheet to the new template.

As for the unpublished poems, that requires some context. Among His Poems was published in 1996, and when it was written the poems marked as unpublished were truly unpublished. The author of the book documented those poems from archives and private Frost collections. However, in 1995 the Library of America collection of Frost's poems also came out. I'm not sure if the author was unaware of this collection, or if he had already written the book when it was announced. Whichever the case, a portion of these unpublished poems were published for the first time in that collection (or at the very least, it seems safe to assume that). The ones I was able to correlate (through the TOC in Amazon, since I don't own the book) are marked as "Include in Library of America" in my spreadsheet. I don't know the publication status of the other poems, though any published or still unpublished after 2002 will have the 70-years copyright rule applied to them either way, so they will enter the public domain in 2034 (Frost died in Jan. 1963).

There is also a paperback edition of Among His Poems that was published in 2005, but I don't know whether it contains updated information or not. That edition is not available in archive.org, and I'm not too keen of purchasing a copy for $30-40 on Amazon since the Frost book I previously purchased turned out to be mostly useless. And I don't know of any other good source that documents the unpublished/uncollected poems as well as AHS.

Alex Cabal

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In the US, the only thing that matters is when it was first published,
not when it was written or when the author died. In the spreadsheet, we
use that year to calculate its PD status and nothing else. So for the
purposes of the spreadsheet, you should put the first year any poem was
actually first published, even if it was posthumously.

We also cannot make assumptions - you have to actually see the poem in
print and not just assume that something is in a volume that you haven't
read.

If you can't determine the publication year, then leave that field blank.

Thanks!

On 9/28/25 11:55 PM, Alex wrote:
> Hi Alex, thanks for porting my spreadsheet to the new template.
>

> As for the unpublished poems, that requires some context. /Among His
> Poems/ was published in 1996, and when it was written the poems marked

> as unpublished were truly unpublished. The author of the book documented
> those poems from archives and private Frost collections. However, in
> 1995 the Library of America collection of Frost's poems also came out.
> I'm not sure if the author was unaware of this collection, or if he had
> already written the book when it was announced. Whichever the case, a
> portion of these unpublished poems were published for the first time in
> that collection (or at the very least, it seems safe to assume that).
> The ones I was able to correlate (through the TOC in Amazon, since I
> don't own the book) are marked as "Include in Library of America" in my
> spreadsheet. I don't know the publication status of the other poems,
> though any published or still unpublished after 2002 will have the 70-
> years copyright rule applied to them either way, so they will enter the
> public domain in 2034 (Frost died in Jan. 1963).
>

> There is also a paperback edition of /Among His Poems/ that was

> published in 2005, but I don't know whether it contains updated
> information or not. That edition is not available in archive.org, and
> I'm not too keen of purchasing a copy for $30-40 on Amazon since the
> Frost book I previously purchased turned out to be mostly useless. And I
> don't know of any other good source that documents the unpublished/

> uncollected poems as well as /AHS./

> On Saturday, September 27, 2025 at 12:21:51 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Alex, I've updated your spreadsheet to our new template format and
> added
> you as an editor:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/1sSavxQc9oYROihMphpvkCXTpuqBuReUIhIxX3ruWLgI/edit?gid=0#gid=0

> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/
> d/1sSavxQc9oYROihMphpvkCXTpuqBuReUIhIxX3ruWLgI/edit?gid=0#gid=0>

> github.com/SashaPrawn/robert-frost_poetry> <https://
> > github.com/SashaPrawn/robert-frost_poetry <http://github.com/

> <https://archive.org/details/robertfrostamong0000cram> <https://

> > archive.org/details/robertfrostamong0000cram <http://archive.org/
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> spreadsheets/>> <https://

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> standardebooks/>>>>
> > > > > c/FHhmBKi0iSY/m/MAAE4JWABgAJ> thread. I'm using a new
> > > > account, so for
> > > > > reference I previously worked on /Demian/ by Herman Hesse.
> > > > >
> > > > > In summary, I want to make a single Robert Frost poetry
> > > > omnibus with all
> > > > > his work published before 1930. The bulk of the content would
> > > > be Frost's
> > > > > five main collections published before that year:
> > > > >
> > > > > - /A Boy's Will/ (1913) (scans <https://
> > > > catalog.hathitrust.org/ <http://catalog.hathitrust.org/>
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> catalog.hathitrust.org/>>>>
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> > > > > pid=20141056>)
> > > > >
> > > > > Each collection (as they were originally released) would be a
> > > > section/
> > > > > chapter of omnibus. An additional section would contain all
> > > > uncollected
> > > > > poetry that wasn't included in any of these. And for the
> sake of
> > > > > simplifying the work maintaining the project, poems that are
> > > > in the
> > > > > public domain but were included in later collections will
> not be
> > > > > included in this section. Instead, they'll be included once
> > > > the entire
> > > > > collection enters the public domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've documentec Frost's uncollected/unreleased poems in this
> > > > <https://
> > > > > docs.google.com/spreadsheets/ <http://docs.google.com/
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In the case of Frost, please check these two links about copyright:

- https://guides.library.cornell.edu/copyright/publicdomain

- https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html

Works that weren't published before or on December 31, 2002 (but after March 1, 1989) have the newer 70 years rule applied to them. Before 1989 but after 1977 the copyright extends to December 31, 2047 (at least for Frost).

Emma Sweeney

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I almost forgot: make sure to take a look at the poem how-to guide for some of the more complex formatting in the poems.

Emma

Alex

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Thanks Emma, I'll take a closer look at that guide (I was using the info in the manual of style before). As an update, I am currently setting up a few VSCode command to make setting up the initial structure for the poems much easier.

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