[Next Project] The Mystery of Cabin Island by Franklin W Dixon

[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

Wiki / PG / IA

Cover art. Uh. Unsure if this counts as proof as all they have is a preview of some of the pages (not the entire. book) which includes the copyright date. Interestingly Hathi, GBooks, and IA don't have the 1929 edition with a cover; at least not that I can see on preliminary search... I can keep digging though.

[Alex Cabal]

OK. Please send a link to your repo. I think we can use that as PD proof
as the publication date is on there, and you should also confirm with
that site that lists the cover variants.

On 3/8/25 2:02 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt wrote:
> Wiki <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Cabin_Island> / PG
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75012/pg75012-images.html> / IA
> <https://archive.org/details/mysteryofcabinis01dixo/page/n11/mode/2up>
>
> Cover art.
> <https://www.yesterdaysmuse.com/pages/books/2337430/franklin-w-dixon/the-mystery-of-cabin-island-the-hardy-boys-mystery-stories-book-8> Uh. Unsure if this counts as proof as all they have is a preview of some of the pages (not the entire. book) which includes the copyright date. Interestingly Hathi, GBooks, and IA don't have the 1929 edition with a cover; at least not that I can see on preliminary search... I can keep digging though.
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[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

How would I do that with the cover art site? Ask for copyright pages or where they found the proof themselves?

https://github.com/eybmv/franklin-w-dixon_the-mystery-of-cabin-island

[Alex Cabal]

We have scans of the dust jacket and copyright page, which is already
enough, but we can just confirm by using the info on that site in case
it's a situation like last time where the copyright year was listed but
not the actual publication year which was later. You don't have to ask them.

On 3/10/25 1:46 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt wrote:
> How would I do that with the cover art site? Ask for copyright pages or
> where they found the proof themselves?
>
> https://github.com/eybmv/franklin-w-dixon_the-mystery-of-cabin-island
> <https://github.com/eybmv/franklin-w-dixon_the-mystery-of-cabin-island>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2025 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK. Please send a link to your repo. I think we can use that as PD
> proof
> as the publication date is on there, and you should also confirm with
> that site that lists the cover variants.
>
> On 3/8/25 2:02 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt wrote:
> > Wiki <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Cabin_Island
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Cabin_Island>> / PG
> > <https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75012/pg75012-images.html
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75012/pg75012-images.html>> / IA
> >

> <https://archive.org/details/mysteryofcabinis01dixo/page/n11/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/mysteryofcabinis01dixo/page/n11/mode/2up>>
> >
> > Cover art.
> >
> <https://www.yesterdaysmuse.com/pages/books/2337430/franklin-w-dixon/the-mystery-of-cabin-island-the-hardy-boys-mystery-stories-book-8 <https://www.yesterdaysmuse.com/pages/books/2337430/franklin-w-dixon/the-mystery-of-cabin-island-the-hardy-boys-mystery-stories-book-8>> Uh. Unsure if this counts as proof as all they have is a preview of some of the pages (not the entire. book) which includes the copyright date. Interestingly Hathi, GBooks, and IA don't have the 1929 edition with a cover; at least not that I can see on preliminary search... I can keep digging though.

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[Alex Cabal]

Vince will manage this with Emma reviewing. Vince can you add the art to
the DB?

On 3/10/25 1:46 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt wrote:

> How would I do that with the cover art site? Ask for copyright pages or
> where they found the proof themselves?
>
> https://github.com/eybmv/franklin-w-dixon_the-mystery-of-cabin-island
> <https://github.com/eybmv/franklin-w-dixon_the-mystery-of-cabin-island>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2025 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-4 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK. Please send a link to your repo. I think we can use that as PD
> proof
> as the publication date is on there, and you should also confirm with
> that site that lists the cover variants.
>
> On 3/8/25 2:02 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt wrote:
> > Wiki <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Cabin_Island
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Cabin_Island>> / PG
> > <https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75012/pg75012-images.html
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75012/pg75012-images.html>> / IA
> >

> <https://archive.org/details/mysteryofcabinis01dixo/page/n11/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/mysteryofcabinis01dixo/page/n11/mode/2up>>
> >
> > Cover art.
> >
> <https://www.yesterdaysmuse.com/pages/books/2337430/franklin-w-dixon/the-mystery-of-cabin-island-the-hardy-boys-mystery-stories-book-8 <https://www.yesterdaysmuse.com/pages/books/2337430/franklin-w-dixon/the-mystery-of-cabin-island-the-hardy-boys-mystery-stories-book-8>> Uh. Unsure if this counts as proof as all they have is a preview of some of the pages (not the entire. book) which includes the copyright date. Interestingly Hathi, GBooks, and IA don't have the 1929 edition with a cover; at least not that I can see on preliminary search... I can keep digging though.

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[Vince]

Done. Note that the rights/copyright/artwork are all the same URL, since the pictures are all just popups on that page, i.e. they don’t have individual URLs.

[Vince]

Forgot—I also had to convert from webp to jpg to upload it.

[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

1) I took my best stab at CSS but I'm not quite sure if I did it correctly. It seems as though if I try to copy/paste the "header" CSS for the letter, it won't even give me the results of lint.

a) Would this header take a <se.dateline> or just <header>

b) Would the CSS letter header be

header p{
font-variant: small-caps;
margin: 1em;
text-indent: 0;

2) Does sea gulls get modernized to seagulls?

3) I'm blockquoting pieces of writing in a notebook, is the CSS

blockquote + p{
text-indent: 0;
}

4) One of the notes is a list, and (on my Kobo) the first item is not indented and the other three lines are. Would each item take a <p>ITEM</p> or would I do a <br/> for each line?

5) Another note is a cipher -- I have it as

<blockquote>
<p>
<b>xzyrm. rhozmw. xsrnmvb. ovug.</b>
</p>
<p>
<b>uilmg. mrmv. uvvg. srts.</b>
</p>
</blockquote>

I'm guessing that I'd have to CSS it to the center... but would that mess up the other blockquote CSS since this is in the same chapter?

blockquote {
text-align: center;
}

6) Do I drop the quotations on "and all the trimmings" due to it being slang? I recall that I did drop quotations on similar slang words in previous HB such as "letting [the boat's engine] out", a "spread" of food, "step on [the gas]" but idk if it's too "old" to be considered modern anymore...?

[Vince]

On Mar 26, 2025, at 1:44 PM, Elizabeth Miller-Boldt <mb.eliz...@gmail.com> wrote:

1) I took my best stab at CSS but I'm not quite sure if I did it correctly. It seems as though if I try to copy/paste the "header" CSS for the letter, it won't even give me the results of lint.

What does this mean? Please be specific—exactly what did you copy, what command did you type, what error(s) did you get, etc.? You need to start with the standard letter CSS, and then add additional CSS to address individual needs.

a) Would this header take a <se.dateline> or just <header>

The dateline tag (it’s se:letter.dateline, not se.dateline) goes on an element in the header, not the header itself. See SEMoS 7.7.3. There are three elements in this particular header: the recipients, the location (part of the dateline spec), and the salutation. Each of them needs the appropriate tag, and the first two are part of the same clause (the comma at the end of the line), so would be part of the same <p>, with the tags in spans.

<header>

<p><span epub:type="z3998:recipient”>Messrs. Frank…</span>,<br/>

<span epub:type="se:letter.dateline”>Bayport</span>.</p>

<p epub:type="z3998:salutation”>Dear Sirs:</p>

<header>

2) Does sea gulls get modernized to seagulls?

It can be, but isn’t  necessary—see the “Manual spelling changes” section in the Step by Step guide, immediately prior to step 16.

3) I'm blockquoting pieces of writing in a notebook, is the CSS

blockquote + p{
text-indent: 0;
}

It is likely that you don’t need any CSS at all, but that depends on the actual text.

4) One of the notes is a list, and (on my Kobo) the first item is not indented and the other three lines are. Would each item take a <p>ITEM</p> or would I do a <br/> for each line?

If it’s an actual list, then it would go in a <ul>, and each item would go in a <p> inside an <li>. Use the CSS list-style-type to format it; in this case, 

5) Another note is a cipher -- I have it as

<blockquote>
<p>
<b>xzyrm. rhozmw. xsrnmvb. ovug.</b>
</p>
<p>
<b>uilmg. mrmv. uvvg. srts.</b>
</p>
</blockquote>

I'm guessing that I'd have to CSS it to the center... but would that mess up the other blockquote CSS since this is in the same chapter?

From the looks of it, it’s a single line of text that’s split only because it’s too long to fit on the page. So it should be in a single <p>. When the entire block is formatted the same way, in this case small caps, then we do it with CSS, not with markup. So it would just be

<blockquote>

<p>xzym.…</p>

</blockquote>

with the appropriate CSS to handle the small caps and centering.

You will need a selector on the CSS to target this particular blockquote (see the CSS selectors documentation). For example, if the cipher is the third blockquote in the chapter (which is chapter 13), then it can be targeted with

#chapter-13 blockquote:nth-of-type(3) {

…

}

6) Do I drop the quotations on "and all the trimmings" due to it being slang? I recall that I did drop quotations on similar slang words in previous HB such as "letting [the boat's engine] out", a "spread" of food, "step on [the gas]" but idk if it's too "old" to be considered modern anymore…?

I don’t see any reason to get rid of them, but Alex may feel differently.

[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

Updated letter semantics and CSS. Pushed all changes. I believe is ready for review--as a note, typogrify will tell you I missed something, but it wants to incorrectly flip a single quotation mark on multiple instances of 'e'. Thanks for your patience

[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

Also I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but typogrify will now make -- an em dash in content.opf and then lint will complain that it's an "illegal em dash". If it's just one of those "it just does that now; look out for it, and don't commit that!" then that's fine; it just hadn't been done before and I think it upgraded so I wasn't sure if it was a bug or a feature.

[Vince]

Individual letters are italicized as graphemes, not quoted; see SEMoS 8.2.8.

[Vince]

It does not do that here (on your repository), and there is code in typogrify to explicitly not touch metadata subjects. Perhaps a search/replace that went awry?

[Elizabeth Miller-Boldt]

Oh, whoops. Thanks for that. I was thinking there was something that was either italics OR quotes but not both but that wasn't graphemes... Fixed!

I don't remember doing a search/replace, but yeah seems not to replicate. I don't know what I did since I had since quit the terminal. Oh well.

[Vince]

Graphemes are included—they don’t need the quotes, just the italics.

[Emma Sweeney]

Great work! I filed some issues in the repository.

Emma

[Emma Sweeney]

Alex, this is ready for you.

Emma

[Alex Cabal]

Looks good as usual Elizabeth, I've released it. Thanks!

On 5/7/25 8:54 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:
> Alex, this is ready for you.
>
> Emma
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