[First Project] Key Out of Time by Andre Norton

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Manny Romero

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Jan 18, 2022, 4:04:03 PM1/18/22
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Hello,
Excited to give Key Out of Time by Andrew Norton a shot. First time contributor.
Best,
Manny

Alex Cabal

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Great, that one would be a good start.

This should be pretty straightforward. Cut the publisher info and the
ToC, and the publisher ads at the end. I see a few instances of
song/verse, see the manual for copy and paste structure/CSS.

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Manny Romero

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Thanks Alex. The page scans here (https://archive.org/details/keyoutoftime00nort/page/n5/mode/2up) have a copyright date of 1963, same as the PG transcription. I'll use these if that sounds good. Looking forward to working on this.
Manny

Alex Cabal

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Looks good. Send me a link to your repo once you get started. Thanks!
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Quick question. I'm working in Sublime Text. Throughout the book, I see tags like: <0x2060>. See below. Is this something I should worry about? I only see this in Sublime Text, not Github.

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Matt Chan

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Those are just sublime text being helpful to show you invisible unicode characters. 0x2060, e.g., is the word joiner, probably inserted by typogrify

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That’s fine. U+2060 is the Unicode WORD JOINER character: we insert these because only want a line break after an em-dash, not before. Sublime by default shows them, and as an producer it’s generally good to see them. But you can turn them off if you want with "draw_unicode_white_space": “none” in the settings.

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Quick question. I'm working in Sublime Text. Throughout the book, I see tags like: <0x2060>. See below. Is this something I should worry about? I only see this in Sublime Text, not Github.

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Manny Romero

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Awesome. Thanks to the both of you!

Manny Romero

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Hey everyone. I just ran se build-toc but received the error "Couldn’t find title in: chapter-1.xhtml." Can anyone spot why I'm getting that error. I do see the title in chapter 1.

Vince

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It’s looking for an epub:title (or equivalent) on your header (h2), which isn’t there. See SEMoS 7.2 for examples of the various header patterns.

Manny Romero

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Gotcha. Thanks Vince!
Manny

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Alex Cabal

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That works, thanks!

On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Researching cover art. There are several events that take place near
> rocky coastlines and in stormy waters.
>
> How about this:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg
>
> Printed here:
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0
> See page 6 of the scan.
>
> If this can work, I'll crop a section to see how it looks. Let me know!
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 6:25:41 PM UTC-7 Manny Romero wrote:
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> A quick update. I just built the ebook for proofreading (step 21).
> Sorry this production has taken so long but I'll get there!
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> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 10:23:20 PM UTC-7 Manny Romero wrote:
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> Gotcha. Thanks Vince!
> Manny
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> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:40 PM Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org>
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> It’s looking for an epub:title (or equivalent) on your
> header (h2), which isn’t there. See SEMoS 7.2
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.4/single-page#7.2> for examples of the various header patterns.
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>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 9:17 PM, Manny Romero
>> <swel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone. I just ran *se build-toc* but received the
>> error "Couldn’t find title in: chapter-1.xhtml." Can
>> anyone spot why I'm getting that error. I do see the title
>> in chapter 1.
>>
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 9:50:15 AM UTC-7 Manny Romero
>> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome. Thanks to the both of you!
>>
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-7 robin wrote:
>>
>> That’s fine. U+2060 is the Unicode WORD JOINER
>> character: we insert these because only want a
>> line break after an em-dash, not before. Sublime
>> by default shows them, and as an producer it’s
>> generally good to see them. But you can turn them
>> off if you want with "draw_unicode_white_space":
>> “none” in the settings.
>>
>>> On 3 Jun 2022, at 18:41, Manny Romero
>>> <swel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Quick question. I'm working in Sublime Text.
>>> Throughout the book, I see tags like: <0x2060>.
>>> See below. Is this something I should worry
>>> about? I only see this in Sublime Text, not Github.
>>>
>>> <Screen Shot 2022-05-21 at 1.54.26 PM.png>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:26:29 PM UTC-8
>>> Manny Romero wrote:
>>>
>>> Here you go Alex:
>>> https://github.com/swell089/andre-norton_key-out-of-time <https://github.com/swell089/andre-norton_key-out-of-time>.
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Alex Cabal

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That works too. Let me know which one you finally use.

On 10/17/22 11:20 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> I'll see how this one looks cropped too if you think it works:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg
>
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light
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> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> That works, thanks!
>
> On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
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> >
> > How about this:
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>
> >
> > Printed here:
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>
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I don't think the page scans are the same painting. Did you send the
right page?

On 10/17/22 9:36 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> Actually the crop is looking to good with that image. Is this one ok?
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_Summer_Squall.jpg
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Harper_s_Monthly_Magazine/m1JIAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Northeaster+by+Winslow+Homer&pg=PA573-IA1&printsec=frontcover
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> That works, thanks!
>
> On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
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> > Researching cover art. There are several events that take place near
> > rocky coastlines and in stormy waters.
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>
> >
> > Printed here:
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>
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Did you make a selection?
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> That works, thanks!
>
> On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > Researching cover art. There are several events that take place near
> > rocky coastlines and in stormy waters.
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>
> >
> > Printed here:
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>
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OK great, thanks!

On 10/21/22 5:49 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> Yeah, I'm gonna go with this if you agree.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg>
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light>
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> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:27:18 AM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Did you make a selection?
>
> On 10/17/22 11:20 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > I'll see how this one looks cropped too if you think it works:
> >
> >
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> >
> > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
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> > That works, thanks!
> >
> > On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > Researching cover art. There are several events that take place
> near
> > > rocky coastlines and in stormy waters.
> > >
> > > How about this:
> > >
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> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>>
> > >
> > > Printed here:
> > >
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> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>>
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I'm going through and editing the content.opf file (step 23). See below. The subject heading IDs from the Library of Congress show up as unknown for subjects 2–5. Do I need to find them and manually input them, or do I leave as is?

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You can leave them alone

On 11/11/22 12:38 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> I'm going through and editing the content.opf file (step 23). See below.
> The subject heading IDs from the Library of Congress show up as unknown
> for subjects 2–5. Do I need to find them and manually input them, or do
> I leave as is?
>
> Screen Shot 2022-11-11 at 10.25.41 AM.png
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK great, thanks!
>
> On 10/21/22 5:49 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm gonna go with this if you agree.
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg>>
> >
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light> <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light>>
> >
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:27:18 AM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > Did you make a selection?
> >
> > On 10/17/22 11:20 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > > I'll see how this one looks cropped too if you think it works:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Moonlight,_Wood_Island_Light.jpg>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light> <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433066279922&view=1up&seq=333&q1=Wood%20Island%20Light>>
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
> > >
> > > That works, thanks!
> > >
> > > On 10/16/22 7:10 PM, Manny Romero wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > Researching cover art. There are several events that take place
> > near
> > > > rocky coastlines and in stormy waters.
> > > >
> > > > How about this:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winslow_Homer_-_Weatherbeaten.jpg>>>
> > > >
> > > > Printed here:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0> <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0 <https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Story_of_Prouts_Neck/CGlgKYN4abYC?hl=en&gbpv=0>>>
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Perfect. Thanks.
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Hi Manny, it's been almost a year since we started work. Are you ready
to wrap this up?

Manny Romero

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Yes, will finish this soon.
Manny