[Next Project] Lost Man’s Lane by Anna Katharine Green

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John Kenny

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Jan 1, 2026, 4:44:14 PMJan 1
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I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna Katharine Green as my next project.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305
https://archive.org/details/lostmanslane00greerich

Alex Cabal

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OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both collections:
https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost-mans-lane

Please send a link to your repo once you start.
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John Kenny

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Alex Cabal

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OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.

On 1/3/26 10:48 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> Repo is at https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna-katharine-green_lost-
> mans-lane
>
> On Friday, January 2, 2026 at 9:00:23 AM UTC-8 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both collections:
> https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost-mans-
> lane <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost-
> mans-lane>
>
> Please send a link to your repo once you start.
>
> On 1/1/26 3:44 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna Katharine Green as my
> next project.
> >
> > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305>
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John Kenny

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Jan 4, 2026, 12:17:52 PMJan 4
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There is one image in the book, a hand-drawn black and white map. Just want to be clear on what I should be putting in the repository, the manual seems to say two different things:

https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-structural-patterns#7.8.4 says "<img> element whose image is black-on-white line art ... are PNG files with a transparent background"
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-images#10.5.3.3 says "Images that consist of plain black line drawings are converted to SVG for distribution"

diagram.jpg

Emma Sweeney

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Jan 5, 2026, 1:33:56 AMJan 5
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You should put the source image file (JPG/PNG) in the /images folder and the SVG in the /src/epub/images folder.

Emma

John Kenny

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Jan 5, 2026, 8:59:24 AMJan 5
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I'm still not clear on when 7.8.4 applies - under what circumstances would I use a PNG rather than SVG?

Emma Sweeney

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There are some images that can't be turned into SVGs, like black and white photos or images with greyscale. These types of images don't look good when you trace them in Inkscape. Drawings like yours are fairly easy to trace.

Since the image will be an SVG, you will need to add the `se:image.color-depth.black-on-transparent` semantic.


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John Kenny

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Jan 5, 2026, 12:39:11 PMJan 5
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7.8.4 does not refer to photos, it specifically references images which are "black-on-white line art (i.e. exactly two colors, not grayscale!)"

I still don't get what the purpose of 7.8.4 is, 10.5.3.3 seems to imply that these images should in fact be SVGs.

Emma Sweeney

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Jan 5, 2026, 12:48:50 PMJan 5
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Some line art can also be difficult to turn into SVGs. There is a whole discussion about PNGs vs SVGs involving another production. The `se:image.color-depth.black-on-transparent` allows the image to invert the colors in dark mode.

Emma

Alex Cabal

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The manual should be updated to specify SVG in this case.
> structural-patterns#7.8.4 <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-structural-patterns#7.8.4>
> says "<img> element whose image is black-on-white line
> art ... are PNG files with a transparent background"
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-
> images#10.5.3.3 <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-images#10.5.3.3> says "Images
> that consist of plain black line drawings are converted
> to SVG for distribution"
>
> diagram.jpg
>
> On Saturday, January 3, 2026 at 10:36:25 AM UTC-8 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.
>
> On 1/3/26 10:48 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> > Repo is at https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna-
> katharine-green_lost- <https://github.com/
> johnkenny54/anna-katharine-green_lost->
> > mans-lane
> >
> > On Friday, January 2, 2026 at 9:00:23 AM UTC-8
> Alex Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both
> collections:
> > https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-
> green/lost-mans- <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/
> anna-katharine-green/lost-mans->
> > lane <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-
> katharine-green/lost- <https://standardebooks.org/
> ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost->
> > mans-lane>
> >
> > Please send a link to your repo once you start.
> >
> > On 1/1/26 3:44 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna
> Katharine Green as my
> > next project.
> > >
> > > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305> <https://
> > www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <http://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305>>
> > > https://archive.org/details/
> lostmanslane00greerich <https://archive.org/details/
> lostmanslane00greerich> <https://
> > archive.org/details/lostmanslane00greerich
> <http://archive.org/details/lostmanslane00greerich>>
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John Kenny

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There are some t-029 lint errors appearing when a letter followed by a period is used to reference an unnamed city, e.g.

"... the good people of X. had never allowed her to suffer"

Seems like I should keep the text as is and filter these out using se-lint-ignore.xml - just want to confirm.

Alex Cabal

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What I do in these cases is simply to remove the period, X is clearly an
elision/standin word and the period doesn't add to that
> > https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level->
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> standardebooks.org/>
> > manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-structural-patterns#7.8.4>
> > says "<img> element whose image is black-on-white line
> > art ... are PNG files with a transparent background"
> > https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and->
> > images#10.5.3.3 <https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
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> > manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-images#10.5.3.3> says "Images
> > that consist of plain black line drawings are converted
> > to SVG for distribution"
> >
> > diagram.jpg
> >
> > On Saturday, January 3, 2026 at 10:36:25 AM UTC-8 Alex
> > Cabal wrote:
> >
> > OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.
> >
> > On 1/3/26 10:48 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > Repo is at https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna- <https://
> github.com/johnkenny54/anna->
> > katharine-green_lost- <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>
> > johnkenny54/anna-katharine-green_lost->
> > > mans-lane
> > >
> > > On Friday, January 2, 2026 at 9:00:23 AM UTC-8
> > Alex Cabal wrote:
> > >
> > > OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both
> > collections:
> > > https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine- <https://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine->
> > green/lost-mans- <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/ <https://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/>
> > anna-katharine-green/lost-mans->
> > > lane <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna- <https://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna->
> > katharine-green/lost- <https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
> standardebooks.org/>
> > ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost->
> > > mans-lane>
> > >
> > > Please send a link to your repo once you start.
> > >
> > > On 1/1/26 3:44 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > > I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna
> > Katharine Green as my
> > > next project.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305>
> > <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305>> <https://
> > > www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/33305> <http://
> > www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/33305>>>
> > > > https://archive.org/details/ <https://archive.org/details/>
> > lostmanslane00greerich <https://archive.org/details/ <https://
> archive.org/details/>
> > lostmanslane00greerich> <https://
> > > archive.org/details/lostmanslane00greerich <http://archive.org/
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OK, I'll remove the period. Is that Editorial?

For cover image, best thing I've found so far is https://standardebooks.org/artworks/auguste-renoir/a-road-in-louveciennes but I don't have any attachment to this so let me know if you see something better.

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Yes, editorial.

The costume in that painting is fairly distinct. Is it period
appropriate for the book?
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level- <http://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level->>
> > > structural-patterns#7.8.4 <https://standardebooks.org/
> <https://standardebooks.org/> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> > > manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-structural-patterns#7.8.4>
> > > says "<img> element whose image is black-on-white line
> > > art ... are PNG files with a transparent background"
> > > https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and- <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and- <http://
> standardebooks.org/> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> > > manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-images#10.5.3.3> says "Images
> > > that consist of plain black line drawings are converted
> > > to SVG for distribution"
> > >
> > > diagram.jpg
> > >
> > > On Saturday, January 3, 2026 at 10:36:25 AM UTC-8 Alex
> > > Cabal wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.
> > >
> > > On 1/3/26 10:48 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > > Repo is at https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna- <https://
> github.com/johnkenny54/anna-> <https://
> > github.com/johnkenny54/anna- <http://github.com/johnkenny54/anna->>
> > > katharine-green_lost- <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/
> > <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>
> > > johnkenny54/anna-katharine-green_lost->
> > > > mans-lane
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, January 2, 2026 at 9:00:23 AM UTC-8
> > > Alex Cabal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both
> > > collections:
> > > > https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine- <https://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine- <http://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/ebooks/ <http://standardebooks.org/ebooks/>>
> > > anna-katharine-green/lost-mans->
> > > > lane <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna- <https://
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> ebooks/anna->>
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> > > ebooks/anna-katharine-green/lost->
> > > > mans-lane>
> > > >
> > > > Please send a link to your repo once you start.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/1/26 3:44 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > > > I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna
> > > Katharine Green as my
> > > > next project.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33305 <https://
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> ebooks/33305>>
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I think the painting is a little too cheery for a mystery novel involving strange disappearances. Since this takes place in a village, you might find a painting of a village or cottage in the art db that could work.

Emma

John Kenny

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Tough to find a cover image that ticks all the boxes - country road, decaying estate, gloomy aura, period appropriate.

Here are a couple that might work, cropped previews below:

https://collections.artsmia.org/art/10535/temple-woods-max-weyl
https://collections.artsmia.org/art/60157/caretakers-cottage-in-the-forest-of-compiegne-paul-huet

Also a couple in the SE Art DB that might work with some cropping and/or erasing of non-period appropriate people or livestock:

https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jean-charles-cazin/landscape
https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jens-juel/a-zealand-farm-during-a-gathering-storm-eigaard-near-ordrup

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Alex Cabal

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John Atkinson Grimshaw specialized in paintings like you describe,
though at least as of a few years ago finding PD proof was difficult.
This may have changed as more art books entered the public domain.

On 1/13/26 10:40 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> Tough to find a cover image that ticks all the boxes - country road,
> decaying estate, gloomy aura, period appropriate.
>
> Here are a couple that might work, cropped previews below:
>
> https://collections.artsmia.org/art/10535/temple-woods-max-weyl
> https://collections.artsmia.org/art/60157/caretakers-cottage-in-the-
> forest-of-compiegne-paul-huet
>
> Also a couple in the SE Art DB that might work with some cropping and/or
> erasing of non-period appropriate people or livestock:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jean-charles-cazin/landscape
> https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jens-juel/a-zealand-farm-during-a-
> gathering-storm-eigaard-near-ordrup
>
> mia_5006146_full-cropped-small.jpg20020701-cropped-small.jpg
> On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> I think the painting is a little too cheery for a mystery novel
> involving strange disappearances. Since this takes place in a
> village, you might find a painting of a village or cottage in the
> art db that could work.
>
> Emma
> On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 8:12:48 PM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Yes, editorial.
>
> The costume in that painting is fairly distinct. Is it period
> appropriate for the book?
>
> On 1/10/26 6:12 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > OK, I'll remove the period. Is that Editorial?
> >
> > For cover image, best thing I've found so far is https://
> > standardebooks.org/artworks/auguste-renoir/a-road-in-
> louveciennes <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/auguste-renoir/
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-> <https://
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> > > standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/> <http://
> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>>
> > > > manual/1.8.5/7-high-level-structural-patterns#7.8.4>
> > > > says "<img> element whose image is black-on-white line
> > > > art ... are PNG files with a transparent background"
> > > > https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-> <https://
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> > > > manual/1.8.5/10-art-and-images#10.5.3.3> says "Images
> > > > that consist of plain black line drawings are converted
> > > > to SVG for distribution"
> > > >
> > > > diagram.jpg
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, January 3, 2026 at 10:36:25 AM UTC-8 Alex
> > > > Cabal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/3/26 10:48 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > > > Repo is at https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna-
> <https://github.com/johnkenny54/anna-> <https://
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> > > > katharine-green_lost- <https://github.com/ <https://
> github.com/> <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>
> > > <https://github.com/ <https://github.com/> <https://
> github.com/ <https://github.com/>>>
> > > > johnkenny54/anna-katharine-green_lost->
> > > > > mans-lane
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, January 2, 2026 at 9:00:23 AM UTC-8
> > > > Alex Cabal wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK! Make sure to add the metadata for both
> > > > collections:
> > > > > https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-
> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/anna-katharine-> <https://
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> > > > > mans-lane>
> > > > >
> > > > > Please send a link to your repo once you start.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/1/26 3:44 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> > > > > > I'd like to try Lost Man’s Lane by Anna
> > > > Katharine Green as my
> > > > > next project.
> > > > > >
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There is, as it happens, what might be a _perfect_ Grimshaw for this title, but alas! PD proof is lacking (I can find it, anyway).

I did a little poking, though, and found Norwood MacGilvary, "Twilight after the Rain" (1906) which is CC0 from the Smithsonian. Cover crop could look like this:

cover-lane-twilight-400x600.jpg

I don't know whether that sufficiently corrseponds to the eponymous "lane", but thought I'd at least suggest the option.

FWIW! David / Fife, UK

John Kenny

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Twilight after the Rain seems fine to me.

One problem I've seen with the Grimshaws, aside from the general lack of PD proof, is that they tend to be very landscape-ish, and the required crop often seems like it would change the vibe significantly.

David

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I'm glad that could work. I've uploaded it to the artworks DB, but not made any assignment. I'll leave that to your manager. :)

(P.s. Of course in my previous note, I meant to say: "(I CAN'T find it, anyway)"...)

Emma Sweeney

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Twilight after the Rain looks good! I've assigned it to this production.

Emma

John Kenny

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This is ready for review.

Vince

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All right, I’ll get to it in the next few days.

Vince

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Looks pretty good, John. A few things to take care of, including, unfortunately, a couple of rebases. As I mention in the review, ping me in the comments if you need some help with that.

John Kenny

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Not sure where my mind was on that initial commit. That should be fixed now, also changed the commit message for "Fix mismatched quote".

The rest looks pretty straightforward, but I want to make sure that I've got all the rebasing done correctly before I move on, so if you could take a look and confirm that the rebasing is complete and correct I'll finish up the other stuff.

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Are we all set here?
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There hasn’t been amy activity after what is mentioned below; I pinged him earlier today but haven’t heard anything.

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John Kenny

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Sorry, hadn't noticed the comment in the issue, hopefully will get the remaining items done this weekend.

Vince Rice

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GitHub emails you when there’s a comment, did you not see it?

On Jan 23, 2026, at 8:43 PM, John Kenny <johnke...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, hadn't noticed the comment in the issue, hopefully will get the remaining items done this weekend.

John Kenny

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I didn't get an email for either of your comments, I think because I wasn't yet participating in the issue, and you didn't @mention me.

Vince Rice

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You’re automatically participating, you’re the owner of the repository. This is the same way all of us work on every production, so if you didn’t get notified there’s something different going on here.

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I didn't get an email for either of your comments, I think because I wasn't yet participating in the issue, and you didn't @mention me.

Vince

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This is ready for you, Alex.

Alex Cabal

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OK, everything looks good John, thanks! I've gone ahead and released it.

On 1/15/26 12:52 PM, John Kenny wrote:
> This is ready for review.
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2026 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-8 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> /Twilight after the Rain/ looks good! I've assigned it to this
> production.
>
> Emma
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2026 at 11:19:43 AM UTC-5 David wrote:
>
> I'm glad that could work. I've uploaded it to the artworks DB
> <https://standardebooks.org/artworks/norwood-macgilvary/
> twilight-after-the-rain>, but not made any assignment. I'll
> leave that to your manager. :)
>
> (P.s. Of course in my previous note, I meant to say: "(I CAN'T
> find it, anyway)"...)
>
> On Wednesday, 14 January 2026 at 16:06:56 UTC John Kenny wrote:
>
> Twilight after the Rain seems fine to me.
>
> One problem I've seen with the Grimshaws, aside from the
> general lack of PD proof, is that they tend to be very
> landscape-ish, and the required crop often seems like it
> would change the vibe significantly.
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2026 at 7:40:18 AM UTC-8 David wrote:
>
> There is, as it happens, what might be a _perfect_
> Grimshaw <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
> File:John_Atkinson_Grimshaw,_At_The_Park_Gate,_1878.jpg>
> for this title, but alas! PD proof is lacking (I can
> find it, anyway).
>
> I did a little poking, though, and found Norwood
> MacGilvary, "Twilight after the Rain" (1906) which is
> CC0 from the Smithsonian <https://www.si.edu/object/
> twilight-after-rain:saam_1913.3.3>. Cover crop could
> look like this:
>
> cover-lane-twilight-400x600.jpg
>
> I don't know whether that sufficiently corrseponds to
> the eponymous "lane", but thought I'd at least suggest
> the option.
>
> FWIW! David / Fife, UK
>
> On Tuesday, 13 January 2026 at 16:42:09 UTC Alex Cabal
> wrote:
>
> John Atkinson Grimshaw specialized in paintings like
> you describe,
> though at least as of a few years ago finding PD
> proof was difficult.
> This may have changed as more art books entered the
> public domain.
>
> On 1/13/26 10:40 AM, John Kenny wrote:
> > Tough to find a cover image that ticks all the
> boxes - country road,
> > decaying estate, gloomy aura, period appropriate.
> >
> > Here are a couple that might work, cropped
> previews below:
> >
> > https://collections.artsmia.org/art/10535/temple-
> woods-max-weyl <https://collections.artsmia.org/
> art/10535/temple-woods-max-weyl>
> > https://collections.artsmia.org/art/60157/
> caretakers-cottage-in-the- <https://
> collections.artsmia.org/art/60157/caretakers-
> cottage-in-the->
> > forest-of-compiegne-paul-huet
> >
> > Also a couple in the SE Art DB that might work
> with some cropping and/or
> > erasing of non-period appropriate people or
> livestock:
> >
> > https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jean-charles-
> cazin/landscape <https://standardebooks.org/
> artworks/jean-charles-cazin/landscape>
> > https://standardebooks.org/artworks/jens-juel/a-
> zealand-farm-during-a- <https://standardebooks.org/
> artworks/jens-juel/a-zealand-farm-during-a->
> > gathering-storm-eigaard-near-ordrup
> >
> > mia_5006146_full-cropped-small.jpg20020701-
> cropped-small.jpg
> > On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8
> Emma Sweeney wrote:
> >
> > I think the painting is a little too cheery for a
> mystery novel
> > involving strange disappearances. Since this
> takes place in a
> > village, you might find a painting of a village
> or cottage in the
> > art db that could work.
> >
> > Emma
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